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>>556545862 How many sandcoons control the government? How many sandswines have jobs? Barely non, because every swede with money know that their trouble, non of these medias show things which effect anything. It is all just 4chan crap.
forgive my right wing ignorance, but doesn't fundamental islamic law regard everything the progressives do (open sexuality, gender equality, freedom of expression etc..) as a capital crime? aren't you enlightened swedes just signing your own death warrants?
>>556545114 I hoped you smashed his fucking head in. As someone who goes to sweden pretty regularly i fucking hate those muslim shits thinking they're boss in rosengård and other places way too close to stockholm. Why are you letting all those fuckers in? You're losing your traditions and your balls, Sweden.. and it's a sad sight.
that hasn't proven out anywhere else that islam has migrated to and there's no guarantee of that, in fact with the increased push to bring more muslims into sweden occupation is more likely than adaptation.
>>556545114 Muslim /b/ro here. No one gives a fuck if you eat during Ramadan if your not a Muslim. Only fuckin retards do. IMHO a lot of Arab Muslims (who are only 15% of Muslims) are stupid as fuck. And that's coming from an Arab.
I know what I'm talking about. I've lived in here long enough to see some progress after the arab spring, things you can't see if you dont live there and dont know the people well enough. But these things will surface and be apparent in good time.
Plus, everybody knows that the shittiest type of muslims are the ones in the UK and Europe generally. These guys are a shame, but things are changing as time goes by.
>>556551370 I live in a town in the North West of England, and over the past 20 years it's been shit flooded with shitskins. You go to the town centre now and you'll see wannabe gangstas driving Subarus, infact last week a muslim gang sprayed concentrated acid on a woman's face and claimed a race war. They are fucking monkeys man, where the fuck is Hitler?
>>556552158 Hitler was a filthy fucking socialist who worshipped Islam.
The Nazi's got a few things right, but most of the good shit they did took place before Hitler took complete power. No, the SA was the best part of the Nazi's. They were the men who had fought in the Freikorpsen against the socialist revolution of 1919.
And one of the Nazi's greatest mistakes was with "Deutsche Fysiek" or whatever they called it. Basically disregarding any scientific discovery they didn't like on ideological grounds. If the Nazi's hadn't pounced on the Jews or ignored sound science, we would have a united, white Europe today that would be in charge of the world.
But instead we had Hitler. I wish that Bierhal assassination attempt would have been succesful.
Swedish muslims suffer identity-crisis upon arrival. And then shit gets really dum, fast. Seing Syrian refugees hailing Islam and Syria, as if they suddenly forgot that Islam and Syria where the two main-factors that fucked up their lives...
Muslims are exploiting the system of tolerance that was meant to ease tensions between peoples of different cultures. No matter what the system is or how well structured, benign, etc., there will always exist a parasite which will take advantage of whatever weak points they can find.
This is today's Muslim, a parasite. Sadly, the vast majority don't even have the capacity to fathom what they're doing. Eroding the countries that they "invade" will lead to the same conditions where they came from and harbor distrust, if not open hatred from the natives. The upper echelons of the Muslim society stand to benefit from the expansion, since the culture of ignorance that is Islam funnels all the money and power to the top.
Im Swedish and im ashamed of my country, it's all gone to shit and people are too brainwashed to do anything about it. When or should i say if the general public ever decides to wake up it will be too late. It's so fucking sad seeing this country fall apart.
Go on, please elucidate on modern discoveries and contributions made by Muslims, within their own countries, not expats.
Did you know that when the majority of those discoveries you mentioned were made, the questioning of religion and secularism in general were accepted? The oppression by which Islam is known today did not exist. Islam is the only political or religious system outside of Africa that, over time (meaning, don't look at specific instances), is actually reducing social liberties rather than expanding them.
the fact that any religion is allowed to be here with out sufficiant scrutiny is beyond me... and here we are talking shit but nothing ever really happens, maybe we should send them to mars, some may learn the error of their ways, either way we get earth for the rest of us retards
>>556546579 That's bullshit unless you go by technicalities. If you count the numbers of believers and practicing muslims, maybe you get 5% muslims in Sweden. But if you count all immigrants from muslim countries, believers or not and their children, you get 17-20%.
Whats happening now in the middle east is IMO the start of the end of fundamentalist islam. Arab spring is responsible for a new anti fundamentalist and separation of state and religion, even if its not as apparent as it should be, but trust me, its there. And the extremist Sunnis and Shi'a groups are turning on each other, which hopefully they'll just end up killing each other or get tired of all the fight.
One more point to add, Palestine's occupation and all the shit happening in it right now is a big factor for all the extremist activities happening in the mideast, it triggered them.
>>556552840 Any Western ruler from before WWII, really. only after Europe lost WWII was mass immigration forced upon the continent. And it was accompanied by the feminisation of education and politics, leading to an increasing focus on the Appeal to Emotion rather than logic and reason. And here we are today, where any hysterical politician can scream "racism!" and receive more respect than someone calmly explaining why immigration is bad.
But my personal post-war hero would be General Westerling.
>>556553335 You're damn right I'm butthurt about the Third World flooding into Europe. It's a political policy, and thus deserves to be criticized and turned back like all political policy. Anyone guilty of engineering this flavour of Cultural Marxism should be hanged for treason.
>>556552852 Hey dickhead Your religion has produced nothing of value. Your filthy fucking religion, not your culture, not where you were born. Don't reel of a list of shit that happened where you lived and say 'ta-dah' look how good we muslims are. These are cultural, nothing to do with your shitty medieval death cult of a religion. Fuck you. Fuck islam Fuck all muslims Fuck mohammad, the pig fucking shitstain. and fuck allah, your made up, imaginary sky fairy of a god. And please, PLEASE, fuck off
>>556547216 >forgive my right wing ignorance, but doesn't fundamental islamic law regard everything the progressives do (open sexuality, gender equality, freedom of expression etc..) as a capital crime? aren't you enlightened swedes just signing your own death warrants? yes
>has no-one pointed this out to them? they have, and then have been counter-pointed out to be nazis
of course the immigrants move here instead of live in their shithole of a home..
Its the fucking politicians..
>Studies have shown that 49% of swedes are critical to immigration >And only a third consider themself famenist..
Yet all our politicians who live in areas where theres not an immigrant in miles and keep spewing about how niggers are our future and how much they like arab dicks in their mouths when they sit down to pee
>>556554078 We should divide the European territory in two halfs. One half the United States of Europe, a new country with its borders 100% closed in which it is illegal not to be white. The other half, the gypsy-nigger-sandnigger country, which would be potentially useful in case we need some land to try nuclear weapons.
>>556552852 >coffee Ethyopia is Christian >soap Celts used soap many many centuries before Islam existed >>algebra >proper bathing Ever heard of the Romans >crank shaft Romans beat you to it 1000 years before >the 3 course meal 5 courses of GTFO
>>556553905 all over fucking skåne these fucking niggers and sandniggers roam around like the disgusting vermin they are. if only the behaved in a civilised manner, instead they come and act like brainless primates, ooga booga this, allahu akhbar that.
>>556545567 even if you're a mexican, you're probably a good percentage "jew".
fucking moron. how exactly do you imagine the past? jews in some segregated israel who inbred and then all mediterrainians and italians, spaniards and french--who all have the same big nose, and pure white german aryans who look like india, turkey, etc, never bred with them and they're somehow extremely different from you?
>>556546146 So much this. The sandniggers doesn't have any power at ALL in Sweden, no jobs, no nothing.. Sandniggers are just lurking in the streets smoking pot and shooting guns. They will never achieve authority in Sweden. Especially when the Swedish Democrats (SD) are rising along with The Swedish Parti (SvP) >>556546579 Read above.
>>556553678 >yes, i believe muslims have contributed much historically, you are absolutely right.
People. They were people. People contributed to the sciences. Being a muslim had nothing to do with it other than the fact that they just happened to be one. Saying muslims make contributions might be true in the same way that saying christians made contributions is true, but they made those contributions because they were intelligent people. Islam happened to be much more tolerant a long time ago and now it's exactly the opposite. It should also be noted that muslim isn't a reace or an ethnicity. There are turkish muslims, arab muslims, berber muslims, spanish muslims, balkan muslims. They are everywhere. I really think people should stop identifying accomplishments based on the religion someone is. Those religions don't deserve any credit.
>>556554727 so much derp, algebra and science evolved massively in ancient Arabia while Yurop was in in its medieval state. Ever heard of Ibn Rushd? (averroes). Not defending but just stating the things I know. While Yurop had Thomas of Aquino, who had a retarded worthless philosophy. Even before that Ancient Greeks came together with the arabs at universities in Arabia because they had more freedom for research there.
Muslims have the problem that radicalized Muslims are not also marginalized. Christians can be accused of the same thing during the bloody Ireland turf wars, but nowhere in the same scale. There were denouncements and appeals at all times to cease the violence, from within the Christian community.
Muslim extremists face no such opposition within their own religion. Support or even neutrality in the face of radicalized doctrines is a clear sign that the religion, as a whole, is not concerned with those outside it, or even those within it. This is gravely concerning.
Even you make no argument against the radicals, minimizing their effect and prevalence, rather than accepting there is a problem that should be tackled. This is what bothers outsiders the most, just so you know.
83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers 78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates http://www.realcourage.org/2009/08/pakistan-78-percent-call-for-apostate-deaths/
Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/pdf/IslamonCampus.pdf
ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory) http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/
World Public Opinion: 81% of Egyptians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 76% of Pakistanis want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 49% (plurality) of Indonesians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 76% of Moroccans want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
World Public Opinion: 64% of Egyptians said it was “very important for the government” to “apply traditional punishments for crimes such as stoning adulterers.” http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
more here under "sharia". The portion of muslims who are savages is significant.
>>556555590 >Ever heard of Ibn Rushd? (averroes). Not defending but just stating the things I know. While Yurop had Thomas of Aquino, who had a retarded worthless philosophy. >Even before that Ancient Greeks came together with the arabs at universities in Arabia because they had more freedom for research there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes 'Averroes was a defender of Aristotelian philosophy against Ash'ari theologians led by Al-Ghazali. Although highly regarded as a legal scholar of the Maliki school of Islamic law, Averroes' philosophical ideas were considered controversial in Muslim circles. Averroes had a greater impact on Western European circles and he has been described as the "founding father of secular thought in Western Europe". The detailed commentaries on Aristotle earned Averroes the title "The Commentator" in Europe. Latin translations of Averroes' work led the way to the popularization of Aristotle and were responsible for the development of scholasticism in medieval Europe.'
There was the loudest trashiest black chick wearing a burka when I was grocery shopping in the hood the other day. I think she bought pork too. I was really confused and then I just assumed she was hiding from the cops.
>>556554685 >giving half of Europe to sandniggers, niggers and gypsies
How about they just go back to where they came from? In case of the gypsies, I think the Romanians can handle them on their own. We only need to turn a blind eye. After all, we shouldn't interfere with their culture, as the nosy West. That would be wrong. It's an age-old custom for the civilized people of the country to murder the fuck out of gypsies.
You're either Dutch or Belgian, aren't you? The cops never catch them, because the socialists protect these pieces of shit. And, of course, Muslims are always in uniform. Either they wear the Islamic dress, or they all wear the same "street" outfits with the same delinquent haircut.
Of course, the leftist media will report this as an "incident". Nothing serious, they'll say, and she kind of brought it upon herself. If you had intervened, and you would have won the fight, you would have been in the papers as a racist.
The only time I saw something like that, I called a friend instead of the cops. He called the cops, though, and to their credit they showed up within 5 minutes. Nothing violent happened, but when I saw a group of shitskins in an argument with one white girl from my student association, I knew I'd regret it if I didn't do anything.
But look at it this way: That's another voter for the far right.
>>556555141 Okay I'll bite. The religion of Islam hasn't changed, only a few of the faggots practicing it, who have great power, changed. Let me give you an example. Who do you think suicide bombs in the Middle East? Educated people? People who went to Hajj? No it's the poor, uneducated people who get taught the wrong Islam by those Taliban/Al Quida/Boko haram/ISIS shit stains. There are a few teaching a lot the wrong things.
>>556555908 How is polling done? They take a hand full of people in any area,lets says 250. Out of those 250, some 120 people think sharia law should be the only law. That doesn't apply to the other x,000 Muslims.
Also it doesn't matter if they want sharia law. They didn't say "We want to force sharia law up your anus!!" Not they said they'd prefer sharia law.(I assume)
>>556556514 well, if you look at it from a causality point of view, this happened.
>east are developing, non-extremist country last century >Palestine/israel happened >cold wars happened >foreign imperialism thriving, as was the fashion of that time (cfr world wars etc) >people of east can't defend themselves >despair makes them turn to a deity more relentlessly >children of children of children end op growing up with the thought of God is everything >brainwashed due to violence and powerlessness too western powers >said children flee to the west >Their forefathers brought this upon themselves >Deal with it
God please let me travel back in time with an Arri Alexa, to film Mohammad on his trip up to the moon. Hopefully we could all see the miracle of him splitting it in two in hd with David Attenborough commenting.
>>556555105 >accepting of own sexuality >individualistic
Those are two traits Muslims and socialists fear more than death itself. Why? Because both islam and socialism wish to claim total control of society in order to usher in some mythical utopia that they just can't do with a couple of devoted followers who willfully adhere to all their shitty rules. No, they must force their view on everyone in society.
This is why they fear deviants. This is why they try to stamp out any form of dissent.
This is a fallacious argument, the radicalization of Muslims is more pronounced, and although it doesn't change the "spirit" of the religion it certainly changes the practice. From a scholarly perspective Islam may be the same, but from a socio-economic perspective it's certainly not.
The poor and uneducated are always the easiest to whip up into frenzy, the number of times this is occurring though, is increasing and has steadily increased since the 1950s.
In any case, my point was that there is little opposition or condemnation of this radical sector, either from the leaders of Islam or from the individual Muslims that speak on the topic.
There is always a defensive, or almost conciliatory tone taken when speaking of radicals.
>>556555590 I notice you don't even try to refute the fact that other's invented these so called Muslim inventions.
>while Yurop was in in its medieval state You do realize that the Muslims world was in its medieval state too right? They too just recovered from a massive collapse during the dark age, just like Western Europe and Byzantine. There is almost no archeological evidence of any human activity during the dark ages in Muslim Spain, North Africa and the Middle East.
>>556557172 >They didn't say "We want to force sharia law up your anus!
sharia law isn't optional you fucking shill assfuck
>How is polling done? They take a hand full of people in any area,lets says 250. Out of those 250, some 120 people think sharia law should be the only law. That doesn't apply to the other x,000 Muslims.
holy shit you're willfully ignorant, that's how surveys work the odds are that the sample reflects the whole you goddamn pig-ignorant sand nigger retard.
just accept that islam is the mark of a savage
you cock-gobbling inbred cunt, i provide pages of surveys showing that "extremism" is actually very common in muslims and that's the best you can do? Fuck you and fuck your primitive culture. Your backwards people will be purged from the face of the earth soon enough, Habib.
>>556556470 It's a theory that's part of globalised socialism. See, part of what makes socialism such a crackpot cult is that socialists hold it to be true that socialism as an economical model can only work when it is present globally, and when socialism supercedes local culture.
Cultural Marxism is, simply put, the practice of eradicating local culture, theoretically to be replaced with a homogenic socialist society. Several European politicians have expressed opinions about mass immigration that are basically in line with the Cultural Marxist ideal. That is to say, that they import people for the specific goal of destroying Western culture. Multiculturalism was never their intended goal, as you can see from them also actively fighting Western culture.
Here in the Netherlands, they've been trying for years, for instance, to outlaw a cultural practice that is important for the identity of many Dutchmen on the basis of it being supposedly racist. Similarly, Western history is twisted to fit their political norm, rather than reflecting actual history. People are prodded to feel guilty about the acts of our ancestors, and thus denounce them and our cultural identity. Note that no such measures are taken against the descendents of Islamic scum. No, they are told their ancestors were proud, and they should be proud. Because they need to represent a strong cultural group in this engineered war against the West.
>>556557764 The Arabs of today are under constant pressure from all sides. (Which in my opinion should motivate them more. But I'm from Wisconsin so I wouldn't know) Would your people be able to create huge advances when people are trying to kill them on all sides, including their own people.
>>556555908 sandniggnogs will be sandniggnogging its fucking pathetic irsrael threat palestine like shit but still million times better than the hamas threads their fellow muslims. and yes, those people are real.
>>556557752 Is this bait? they have their medieval age right now. During gregorian medieval age, they started actually making progress as yurop stood still. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_philosophers
>>556545114 >mfw when all this EDL rage As a Muslim I gotta say all the racist tears ITT are quite delicious! Also, if the story is genuine, I'm sorry for the bad experience, Muslims (at least Shiites) are in fact forbidden from breaking the laws of the country in which they live.
the problem with muslims is that its so easy to convince them to act a certain way, just by telling them its the correct way for muslims.
for instance, could have a peaceful muslim guy who loves allah and goes about his life not annoying anyone. then a long comes some ugly muslim who hates everything. He pursuades the peaceful muslim that he is "not being a muslim right" and that to be a muslim he must be violent. So the peaceful muslim who loves his religion is confused, and sees all these other "muslims" acting violently, so they must be right! and he joins them :/
putting muslims with other muslims is not good, they always develop a plan try to shove islam in others faces
is that really an arguable defense? political fear of retaliatory action?
if 90% of the Muslim world is actually reasonable, logical and rational, and not those extremist radical fucks, then prove it, dammit. if they're gonna sit on the sidelines and be scared, then don't be surprised when the world hates you. might as well take some oil money and pay google to have a banner, "Islam's a friendly religion, really", because that's gonna have the same impact on global perception.
What people must understand is that Muslims isn't a race, it is a religion, not a fucking race, so you can say I HATE MUSLIMS and being 0% of a racism, so if you ban all people from Sweden, native or not, that follows this shitty religion, many people will be happy.
So why haven't anyone done this yet, One have, his name was Adolf Hitler, he killed Jews not Muslims, but still they are both idiots, don't misunderstand Christensen can go to hell but the difference between all this religions is that Muslims ARE violent. There religion are what they are, because they follow it with there "heaths" and so they blind motherfuckers following a shitty book, a book that is worse than the Bible, in that fucking buck they talk about how Mohammad raped people and still they obey him.
My opinion is that we should go down there and kill every shitty Muslim, and don't let any escape nor child nor women, if they escape the will infect the rest of the world.
Many out there have been preparing for Zombie apocalypse, here you go, a Muslim is a Zombie, no brain and is out for taking your brain and turning you into of of them.
>>556551337 Yup, I understand you. I had contact with a lot of Muslim people, and they didn't care if I ate something during Ramadan. People posting in those threads are just stupid fat neckbeards thinking they have any idea about "world", "culture" and "politics", basing their facts entirely on what is written in the internet.
To the first two paraghraps: Socialist regimes are the only ones who actually ever did anything to eradicate political Islam. That is counter to what you write. Both in Russia and China. And how can you define western culture as a static thing? I have knowledge of only one culture that wasn't affected by other culture. And that is Aboriginal "culture". Which suck absolute donkey-balls!
To outlaw a practise is dum. Germans used toilets during WWII. Lets outlaw them. They are racist!
But to the engineering of Muslim groups, I think you are wrong about the insentive. The reason why they need to find pride in their history, is that they got absolutely nothing to be proud about today! If they are to ever get up to western social standards, they need to read more history, and spend less time with internet-mullas, and media, that time and time again reminds them that their culture is worthless! Othervise they are gonna evolve into Roma-culture. Nobody want's that! Islamic culture is like a recovering alcoholic... Who ironically enough, could benefit a lot from alcohol!
>>556558442 >Muslims (at least Shiites) are in fact forbidden from breaking the laws of the country in which they live.
I hope you still enjoy our tears when we start treating you like you have been treating us. Random violence against Muslims. Large-scale rape of Muslim girls. Enacting laws to stop Muslims from offending locals. Incarcerating critics of the anti-Islamic establishment.
That should be fun.
Remember, Muhammed, the same rules apply. Your "moderate" majority stays silent when you fight the West. Our "moderate" majority will stay silent when we fight you.
>>556558146 You call me names and imply I'm not civilized but look at you. Filled with hate for someone you've never met and a religion you don't even come close to understanding. Sure, I can call you an ass eating faggot who sucks off his dad and swallows, but I'm gonna let you look stupid on your own.
>>556558427 I agree. If your polling go to many places not small areas
>>556558504 Okay anon, lets record this with our not yet invented cameras.
>>556558746 People speak out all the time. How would a peaceful Muslim with no /k/ retaliate against armed extremists?
>>556559086 but they did stood still. Church forbids science and the use of tools for science because Aristotle said so. They follow the writings of an ancient greek for 2000 years without any criticism towards it. Only science done is to prove god is real, thus only done by the church. Till modernism (descartes, galilee, copernicus ) came along they made no real progress.
Hehs. Muslim men have the emotional maturity of children.
>If I see your body you offend me by making me want to rape you. Stone this bitch. >If I go with another woman it's your fault. Stone this bitch. >If you go with another man... why did you make me think about this? Stone this bitch. >Alcohol is bad because it makes me want to rape you. This is also your fault woman. Stone this bitch. >If you are out by yourself it's because you want someone to rape you. This is immoral. Stone the bitch. >I sneezed. Where the fuck are my stones?
>>556559154 I think the majority of Muslims aren't going to do violent Jihad or impose their religion (sharia) anytime soon; however there's a substantial who does. That minority exists because of Islam, and is and should be associated with the religion.
When a book says kill all infidels where ye find them, it's not surprising the believers are acting this way.
I really don’t care about philosophy at all. I care about facts on the ground. Inventions, technology and the application of said things. From a technical perspective, during the middle ages, the Muslim world was quite backwards, compared to Europe. They didn’t even make use of the wheel. Europe on the other hand was, at least from the 12th century on, the most mechanized civilization in the world, making heavy use of water, wind and animal powered machines. From 1200 on pretty much any new invention came from Europe. And other inventions, like gunpowder, were quickly adopted and improved. Even if you look simply at wealth, Europe had already overtaken China by around 1300 (see pic). The Arab world must have been overtaken much earlier.
>pseudoanalysis (n.) -- the act of analysis of a complex issue in which one ceases analysis at a pre-determined point that supports one's premise, instead of continuing the same method of extrapolation toward a conclusion that may undermine one's premise; a form of intellectual dishonesty
>>556559934 >during the middle ages, the Muslim world was quite backwards, compared to Europe Hard to comment on your fucking stupidity. Do yourself a favor and leave this thread so you don't get embarrassed further.
>>556559447 Sounds terrifying, except it's mostly media hyped bullshit exaggerated by unemployed uneducated whites to the point of ridicule (e.g. 4-5 years back EDLtards claimed "sharia courts" were spreading everywhere, nothing happened). There is going to be no war, majority of 2nd generation Muslims will assimilate and the said unemployed uneducated white folk will move on to their next target. Here in Australia it first used to be the Chinese, then Italians and Greeks, then the Lebanese, then Arabs in general, and now the Chinese again. All the while immigrants' kids look at it all with a 'meh' and continue dominating at schools, in universities and in the job market.
>>556559416 Different socialist parties need not hold to the same rules. For instance, Soviety Russia and Maoist China fucking hated each other. The fact is that it's part of the body of socialist theory, and it's actively being used by people who identify as socialists. As such, it is undeniably socialist policy. According to the same logic I could say modern socialists in the West aren't real socialists because they don't send anyone to the Gulag.
And no, culture isn't static. It's also not entirely mobile, either. It is still tied to the land and the population. The culture that exists in Europe evolved over thousands of years, and you can't just magically change that in half a century. Furthermore, I find it extremely insulting that some commie big-wig is going to decide for me that my culture is wrong and that he's going to change it. It's our national culture that made our country the way it is, and we are a liberal, rich, and innovative society. The same can not be said for the cultures they are importing to "improve" us.
Similarly, if you look at history, Islam has always been hostile to the West. They didn't just fall from a period of glory and devolve to the idiots they are today. They've always been like that, except they have lost the power to back it up. When they did have the power, they ran over Spain, they tried to cross into France, they layed siege to Vienna. They also trampled the entire old Christian world. And where did the best minds of Christianity go? To Christian Europe. And the Muslims who live today, what do they say? That they want to make Europe Islamic. Just as the Muslims of literally 1000 years ago.
So sure, culture changes. It also stays the same a lot.
Nah, i live in sweden 85% atheist, 10% muslim and like 5% christianity. The religion is the same and teaches the same things, although the people that follow the religion have atleast double the iq of muslims.
I work with a muslim girl, she's really nice and cute in her hijab. Shame it covers up her cleavege. She couldn't participate in fasting cus she threw up and got sick, so we are some swedish strawberry cake. Good times!
>>556545114 well you see, sweden was never actually that great.
like the rest of northern continental europe countries, any statistically evident advantage to living in scandinavia is slowly being chipped away, because only now are they encountering the problems the rest of the world has dealt with for centuries.
Nah, i live in sweden 85% atheist, 10% muslim and like 5% christianity. The religion is the same and teaches the same things, although the people that follow the religion have atleast double the iq of muslims.
>>556561148 When I get Bill Gates rich mark my fucking words I'm ending this conspiracy bullshit. I'm building two Twin tower replicas and flying two planes straight into those fuckers. Then sit back and see what happens
Always this. Your socialist lapdogs control the media. The media makes an extreme effort to keep Islamic crime out of the public eye. The media are your allies, and yet you guys always bitch and moan about the media. I'm not even kidding when I say my respect for Muslims would improve massively if some of you cunts would fess up to the ridiculous media advantage you have.
>majority of 2nd generation Muslims will assimilate Here in Europe we're on our 3rd generation of Muslim immigrants. They are still criminals, they still identify as Muslims and whatever nationality they are originally from. They still don't speak the language or understand the culture. In short, they are still a shitty little enclave without our own culture.
>dominating at schools, in universities and in the job market. The only thing immigrants dominate here are the crime statistics.
Maybe shit is different in Australia, but here in Europe Islamic immigration doesn't pan out at all like you're saying.
>>556545114 I have a sandnigger friend here in denmark. I eats loads in the ramadan, but only pork by the argument that pigs aren´t viewed as food in islam, so by logical reasoning he should be able to feast on bacon as violently as he wants. He doesn´t eat pig the rest of the year (I think he does), but chooses to put it that way to piss of as many people as possible. God I love that little niglet. Also he just finished his bachelor in environmental engineering. White trash be mad.
Any society that accepts a group that states it is superior to other groups and ought to have special privileges is asking for trouble. This is as true for white supermacists as it is for fundamentalist christians, muslims, or any other group. There is an immense gulf between an immigrant saying >I want to practice a religion that is different from the traditional one. and >I expect the law and culture of this nation to change to suit my culture. The first one is fine. The second one is fucking obnoxious and deserves no respect, as it is itself disrespectful.
When a Christian tries to use the law to enforce his beliefs about homosexuality, he is being an asshole. When a Muslim demands that alcohol should not be sold, or he should be allowed to resolve a dispute via sharia law rather than the laws the country he now calls home, he is being an asshole.
Multiculturalism OUGHT to be about respectful coexistence, not the dominance or subservience of any party. The moment any group says that they ought to have rights that another group doesn't have, or wishes to use the law as a tool to enforce their particular religion upon others, it's no longer multiculturalism. It's the same kind of bullying that multiculturalists want to end.
>>556560262 >retard, till +- 150 years ago science = philosophy.
Good for you. While medieval Europeans used water and wind powered plant, invented mechanical clocks and glasses, and improved gunpowder weapons (metallurgy, chemistry, etc), Muslims were talking out of their asses. Congratulations.
But 1: How? Both Russia and China decided on an interpretation, that inherit culture = shit. Nowhere in the Cultural Marxism debate, have I seen anyone complain about anything but politicians trying to whitewash Islamic culture. It doesn't seem like the Marxistic view on culture? It is a policy that is much more prevalent among Liberals, than among Socialists. Radikale Venstre, in my country (Denmark) embodies every cultural aspect of Cultural Marxism, yet they are ideologically very far from any Marxist ideas. None of us are American. So we should be able to see the difference between those two groups.
And 3: It is within the last 100 - 150 years that Islam has decented to the state of 1000 A. D.. But I hesitate to judge any policies carried out before the western reformation. Midieval politics where shit. And no side made it any nicer. The high-noon Ottoman period didn't see anything like the all out religious fanatism, of early Islam. That Balkan is, a mostly, Christian peninsula testifys to this, and to the religously fueled barbarian shit, carried out in the name of Christ during the 1800's.
>>556562405 UKfag here and I applaud your mission to rid those surrounding mudslimes. Roman Empire used to dominate most of Europe - you don't see Italy trying to invade countries do you? Sand niggers be gone. I hope my country is sending all the money/resources it can to help you rid you of those absolute scum nignogs.
>>556553247 Tolerance was letting your ugly asses in in the first place. Expecting "infidels" to close their liquor stores and stop eating pork is too much to ask for. What makes you think anyone with half a brain has tolerance for a bunch of fucking retarded cultists telling them what to do based on pedo worship? You should be thrown into the ocean.
"Hurr we need to end religion as a whole!" "Pretty soon Christians will be bombing the name of Jesus" "Christianity is just as bad as Islam"
Christianity built your society. Christianity is the reason why your pathetic bloodline wasn't wiped out. Because some where in the past, a man decided to let that pathetic worm that would help spawn you live. Because, you know, Ten Commandments.
Ten Commandments also have built the majority of laws in almost every country. Except maybe the Muslim countries.
Respect is earned... So far Muslims are in the negative. Know a lot of decent ones, and they would never try to interfere with people eating. But there are too many of you! Yes YOU! Rapist/racist moochers, demanding respect for your apauling life-choices. Gtfo.
>>556562668 As you say, culture changes. This also counts for political culture. Socialist and liberal don't mean the same thing as they did a few decades ago.
Shit, the only liberal party here in the Netherlands isn't liberal at all, according the the classical definition. Neither are the socialists classically socialist, with their boner for religion. But they are the socialists who are important here and now, so they represent socialism.
In the end, it's semantics. They are names and concepts we attach to things that are happening, and are clear. I oppose mass immigration because I see it as an attack on my country and culture, perpetrated by people who have openly confirmed that in the media. I don't care for their goals. I care to see them removed.
Im just having a general question to the muslims here. I dont want to throw poop cause im over that.
But realy what is it that you want? Do you just defend your religion because you feel personally attacked? Do you want to integrate into the society of the country you live in?
Or do you want to perpetuate your culture? Because in that case i wanna ask you how you justify that. Now i say that in the context of those of you that claim that they are not extremist. I say that in the context that you dont see yourself as colonizers.
How do you justify going to another country and perpetuating a different culutre than the one that has naturaly grown there? I come from a small country surrounded by small countries and we are quite diverse, my neighbour countries, other than germany, are nothing like us and we have nowhere else to go.
How do you justify perpatuating any other culture than the native one? You have another place to go, we dont.
And i understand that these countries are shit, i dont ask you to leave. But why do you refuse to take on the culture of the country that has taken you in when the country you came from was ass?
It doesnt take a fucking phd to understand that you dont leave your country for a worse one.
>>556562638 America's system is fucked. 2 party system that will always agree on skewing the rules to keep out out independants and third parties, and requiring membership and/or subservience to the political elite in order to take part. True for Dempublicans as much as Repocrats.
>>556562831 Dude, the UK isn't a friend to us It never fucking was Back in the late 1930's, your government used it's mandate here to halt jewish immigration in hopes of making the arab nations support you in the upcoming war. Not fucking legal, but who the fuck cares about international law anyway?
Now, being arabs, they refused to show the british throne any gratitude and refused to fight the nazis anyway, but that sucking up to arabs policy left a shit ton of jews stuck in Europe when ol' Adolf came out to play
Nowdays the trend the is the same all over fucking Europe, you guys are pretending Israel is a genocidal maniac simply because the muslims declared it so, hoping that bashing my nation will somehow make them slightly less inclined to bomb metro stations and promote shariah based legislation, which failed rather pathetically. Good show on finally sobering up now, but rest assured, you're way too fucking deep in islamic immigration for any israeli to be able to help you Just be sure to own a gun and hope the civil war with the pakis and arabs will be brief
That is why I get so confused whenever I see the term "Cultural Marxism". Marx would have demanded islamic culure eradicated within a decade, had he been alive today. Never have a culture ingested so much opium (of the people), that they couldn't even run a decent school-system...
That semantic problem is the child we get from having 60 X 5 - 10 political parlament-parties in Europe...
But with who represent who, in the media, it gets a little complicated. My guess is that most countries could benefit from deporting roughly 30 % of their muslim populations. Most of the last 70 % are barely muslims anymore, and the ones who are, doesn't suffer from Muslim-must-change-new-and-indiciferable-place syndrom anymore.
>>556564506 Seems so morphed.. The american dream, "you can all be president when you grow up!" Seems like you publicly denounce the law of jante, whilst perpetuating it in the shadow.
Which is pretty much the opposite of Denmark. But then again my knowledge of america is insufficient, never been there, so it´s really easy to throw rocks. Hope it´s at least moderately better than what the news and social media gives off to the world.
>>556552852 All of these things you listed were in existence well before your shitstain of a religion was even formed... but I'm happy to give the pre-Islamic arabs the credit they deserve, because they had a real culture... but Muslims get credit for jack shit, because their only historical contribution to the world has been bloodshed and violence since their very inception.
Immigration in itself is not always that bad, but this is happening so fucking fast. Its no longer immigration, its a change of population by the politicians. In my old city i lived in there were no immigrants, i moved away 10 years ago and recently went to visit the city. Its somalians everywhere, i had trouble spotting any natives on the street. I couldn't believe how different the city looks compared to back then.
The demographic change will hit fast and hard, before you manage to notice whats happening.
>>556565050 People don't actuvely decide on their beliefs, they are mostly tools of state propaganda. Most of Europe sucks Muslim dick for clear reason, and that's the result. Nothing surprising in OP's story, by the way. A colleague went to Belgium recently and was verbally assaulted for trying to eat the food he bought, during Ramadan. That was in the center of Brussels.
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