>I am entitled to services I do not pay for!
but they do pay for it via taxes you inbred
and i dont see the problem with this she got assulted by some roid raging asshole who couldn't stand that she had guy friends i mean dude you where dating a porn star jealously has no room in that relationship
Leftist argumentative rhetoric in one post.
Well I'll be damned. Would you like to treat me to the dinner I'm entitled to? After all, food is a human right.
Yeah, that's kinda how modern society works.
We all contribute towards the greater good.
You're happy to spend money on pointless military projects, but not healthcare for your populace?
Huehuehue. USA = Africa
Learn to check.
>If you're against taxing for the sake of medicine, you must support the military!
The leap of logic here is absolutely tremendous. Bravo.
What's wrong with someone helping someone they choose to help? Fuck off with your dumb shit. Infinitely less wrong with people voluntarily helping her than all the mandatory tax money i have to pay to fucking help welfare rats with their medical bills.
TROLLED HARD. welcome to 4chan, Newfriend!
"She is currently being hospitalized for 18 broken bones around her eyes, a broken nose in 2 places, several missing and broken teeth, a fractured rib, a ruptured liver, injured leg and swelling."
I guess her carrer is over then, huh?
I agree with you that it is annoying what some of these benefits cheats do, having kids who are living off our taxes, but to say that it's less wrong for people to help a (potentially rich) pornstar with her medical care than it is to have your taxes pay for the healthcare of strangers on benefits...
I can't agree with that man.
That's not what he's saying. The point about the military is that we have spent short of a trillion of dollars since the in the past decade yet we won't offer our own citizens healthcare. Fuck we even send kikes millions just so they can fill their greedy pockets
Are you asking me if I think people who have jobs are entitled to not starve? Because yes, I'm very much against starvation, just as I'm against people dying just because they're not as well off as I am.
I'm mildly disgusted by people who would rather see people die than experience a teeny tiny increase in taxation.
Most people in those relationships have very clear distinctions between work-sex and personal sex. Porn stars regularly say that it's two completely different experiences. The women are more conservative, the men don't last as long, they don't do the same extreme shit, all that.
I'd be very uncomfortable dating a pornstar, but I can understand the separation between what you do for work and what you do for pleasure.
If you were dating a masseur, and she gave one of her male friends a somewhat intimate massage, would you not be more uncomfortable with that than the same massage given during her work hours? I would.
But you wouldn't. Even if you got sent enough food to sustain you every day, would you not work? Would you not want some luxuries? Pretty much everyone would.
Your little "but they'd stop working!" simply doesn't apply. My country is "socialis" as Americans tend to cry at every opportunity, and it's not like no one's working. Far from it.
LOL Those who think they get free health care in other countries...... Check out your nations tax rate.
No one's saying that the healthcare magically spawns out of nowhere. We're saying that a civilized does not let individuals die simply because they're poor.
I'm quite well off, but I don't want people who a less well off to die in case of a medical emergency.
Damn I'll get my ass whooped by War Machine for 100k
Thread completely derailed in the 1st post. This must be a record.
>back to /pol/
I may disagree with the healthcare advocates like LgP7 but at least he's not an absolute moron. Those people are all against the /pol/ position.
>implying that the public debate between individuals of society has never changed anyone's minds
It's essential to the modern society, actually. Not saying the world will do a 180 tomorrow because of my comments, but arguing your views and opinions is essential to forming well thought out beliefs.
Good work. Couldn't have done better myself.
Tell us how it goes.
All these EU fags...
Sorry, I've worked full time since i was 16 while still in high school, worked full time while at college, I payed fully for college, and landed a job that gives me full health/visual/dental insurance on my own. And I'm only 21. If people have some fucking initiative for their lives you do fine. Sorry all of you EU lack any capability of independence.
Anyone have the pic where "commentators" talk about Christys and War Machines fight.
"Christy had her youth and agility, but that wasn't enough. Machine really went all out with his combo"
wow, nice one bro
we seriously have to wreck this bitch's shit, she's at her most vulnerable bitchy point right now so we have an opportunity
isn't everyone else here tired of "pls give me free money so i can turn into a trans woman", "pls give me money so i can buy a camera", "pls give me money so i can get an useless operation" and other annoying shit?
we have to send an edgelord /b/ message
Confirmed freeloading lazy nigger
I've had to work since I left uni at 20. And about 10% of my salary goes straight to my National Insurance contributions, which covers my healthcare. Yes that means UK healthcare isn't really free, but its not the extortionate amounts that they charge in the US. And I'm never going to be denied treatment in hospital due to a missed payment or because the insurers don't want to pay for something.
Oh and I'm glad I love in the country with the best healthcare in the western world
Yeah.. my kinda guy. I'd turn gay just for him.
If that ain't support I dunno what is.
I have to pay ~19k on average more a year on medicine and visits because I'm a type 1 diabetic despite my extremely expensive insurance. I spend about 24k a year on healthcare for myself alone, and a couple thousand more for my wife and kids.
I have been condemned my entire life to pay to survive. My parents were first generation immigrants, and my mother worked 16 fucking hours a day because her teaching degree doesn't matter if she doesn't speak english. My dad worked 2 jobs, and we could barely make enough to survive, because of my crippling medical costs.
The state offers disability + assistance for depression for fucks sake, yet here I am shelling thousands out to medical supplies companies and insurance companies, unable to enjoy the benefits of having a 6 figure salary job. It emasculates me to know that I cannot solely provide for my family because I am financially crippled by something completely out of my control.
And this is just for the diabetic maintenance too. 20 years from now, when the disease has thoroughly ravaged my body, I probably won't be able to survive alone on my pension. I will likely qualify for disability aid because of the end result of the diabetes. I have to deal with the stress of being a type 1 diabetic as well ass the financial strain of it.
This was all forced upon me. Why should I have to suffer through life because of bad fucking genetics when it can be helped. The military does not need to spend billions building a jet which will likely never see battle, healthcare needs to be thoroughly regulated, because these companies are just sucking my blood out of my pockets.
>Why should I have to suffer through life because of bad fucking genetics
The better question is why you feel that I should financially support you so that you might plague the human race further with your inadequate genes.
Sorry to hear that Dude. Don't worry about the fags.. every thread has 'em. Keep battlin'. There will be respect incoming.
By his increased premiums, it sounds like HE is paying. That said, anyone who tries to say they understand "who" is paying for "what" in the insurance game is either:
a) a faggot
b) an insurance company faggot
>forced upon you
Genetics are what you are. If you have bad genetics, tough. You can either cope with it or die. Life owes you nothing.
PS: This is coming from someone with a chronic heart condition that has considerably medical expenditure. We aren't owed anything by society, suck it up and make some money.
Yea but at lest your doctor now can afford a Mercedes S500 instead of having to settle for a crappy Cadillac. And you pay his children through med school, so you are doing something for the next generation.
But you aren't paying for shit for me, nigger. I'm not on welfare, I don't even get food stamps. I'm traveling two hours away from the place I live, by bus, for the CHANCE that I'll be able to fight a fire or two in order to make the money to pay rent. I still don't think I'm fucking entitled to other people's money.
It's likely. I smoke. Even when it happens, I don't deserve to take money out of other people's pockets to pay for my fucking problems.
You have to understand that you're being ripped off just as he is.
Doctors frequently overcharge in order to extort money of out the people who need that help to survive.
I'm all paying for your own medical bills, as long as it's reasonable and not something in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for something trivial.
I'm truely sorry for you too man. Not in a patronising way either. I think what Mr Boo Hoo is saying, is that some rich cunt is getting richer in a system that is concerned by profits and business issues - not healthcare.
Good 'ol American Dream? Or did I miss something?
then what are you doing in america
A good chunk of my taxes goes towards people who need help to survive, but I don't get any reciprocation regardless of being in a worse position than them.
Oh yeah, you do get ripped off - I don't disagree there. However people are free to charge what they want, and I'm free to accept or decline their offer.
The other thing is, although medical bills are high, the cost of equipment and treatment isn't as low as people tend to expect - the real killer is the pharmaceutical industry.
But yeah, I can see why people would get frustrated by the profiteering in health care. Especially if you're trapped in a low income bracket, with debt or the like - we really don't have any free meritocratic social mobility, so those guys can't get out.
>then what are you doing in america
Living in it. Life sucks unless you make a success out of yourself. That's the way it should be. It inspires the ones in that shitty situation to make something of themselves so they can get out of it.
Amerifats don't realise that their government actually spends more money per-capita on healthcare than any other country in the world.
Yet you don't have universal healthcare?
I can respect the concept of not wanting to pay for other people, but in exchange you're essentially paying MORE for literally FUCKING NOTHING.
that's why I'M not getting any help. My fucking cousin is getting $1200 a month and getting his rent paid for by some welfare section thing because he's fucking depressed.
it's a fucking joke.
She didn't deserve it, and in fact no woman alive deserves to be treated like that. I don't care if the girl murdered your entire family with her bare hands, you don't touch women. And if you do face the consequences and get buttraped in prison like you deserve you scum.
Before you ask, yes, I was abused and raped by a man I was forced to live with, but now he's in jail and I was compensated with money. I hate every male in existence with all my heart, I know that you're all sick and twisted inside.
pipe down, no one wants to hear your shit
the men are talking
>no woman alive deserves to be treated like that
She's a porn actress, who cares? They're replaceable meat.
Coming from Norway, the feels are hitting me. God damn it, even when my country was poor as shit 60 years ago we took care of our people. The US is like our Autistic sibling. Lots of people not caring.
Deep breaths now.. I can do this. I can do this. I'll just keep scrolling
I like this idea. A legal fund perhaps?
Also aren't porn stars fairly well off especially women? If they can afford all the plastic surgeries why not an ass beating? Also you would think being in a job that has a lot of health risks they would buy health insurance.
Think of all the women who can't afford the injuries they sustain from abusive boyfriends, husbands and exes, who will never get donated to by betas, and then consider that they'll donate to a porn actress who probably makes thousands a scene.
It is easy for the "civilized world" to borrow to "pay" for healthcare when they are pussies that demand that the goddamn UNITED STATES OF MOTHERFUCKING AMERICA defend them all the time.
BTW....you're welcome! Enjoy all the freedom brought to you courtesy of Uncle Sam faggot.
do you think type 1 diabetes is fun?
I can work but I can't reasonably be expected to pay for that much as far as healthcare costs go.
we can't afford to splash cash on luxuries every couple of months. I make ~105k a year, which is effectively down to 80-75k considering health. Wife makes 50k a year. We have 3 kids. Kids are expensive as fuck.
If I had an extra ~20k a year(which I would if not for diabeetus), we'd be able to.
so, the problem ISN'T the fact that type 1 diabetes is the only major disease that you do not get any assistance for despite its tremendous costs, it's the fact that we have 3 kids on an income that is considered well over liveable.
The idea is that the payment comes from the communal money bank which is gained from taxes, but you dumb fuck Americans don't quite understand that paying a little more money each year actually saves you thousandfold amounts of money incase you ever have to go to hospital.
>get fucked up
>magically not covered by insurance
>people defend these shitty cartel business practices because they think they'll be rich some day
Only in the United States of Fat. Too bad Europe is more and more becoming like this, and the shitty leftists let it happen because they care more about importing Islam than they do about protecting the actually decent policies they created. It's fucked up.
Gotdang, that's on average $93 per person. There's a lot of rich, pathetic betas out there, I'll tell you h'what.
The fuck? Is she getting a fucking heart transplant? Didn't she just get roughed up a bit?
Most of the damage is cosmetic, this money is probably to pay for plastic surgery so she can get back to being a cheap whore faster.
white knight faggotry everywhere
you must know, she'll fuck every single betafag that donated in return. i am sure she will, i mean, of course she will, right, guys? guys...?
it's actually kinda amusing to see what people blow their money on, but then, something essential like free health care is something that nobody wants to spend a few dollars in taxes on.
enjoy your freedumb
>can't spot samefags
>being this new
>in the military
and before you said HURR DURR have fun letting those idiots military doctors fuck your body up, all seriously operations are out sourced to regular hospitals and i still don't pay a dime. like the free PRK i got a couple of years back.
inb4 welfare queen cause i don't really give a fuck.
>the us gets involved with everything they can make money off
>brand themself with world police like status
>doesn't give a fuck about helping anyone
>even sells the enemy weapons while their own men die by them
Go ahead and tell us how great the US is
faggot. heard of taxes? fattog
>misses the point entirely
>military probably a good fit
People in your country will pay more out of their paycheck for health care than those with socialized medicine. Especially when you consider the cost to employers also, who typically foot alot of the premium cost.
Also when you think of the deductibles, and financing limitations (prior to Obamacare), plus the fact that over 30 million don't have access, and that the most expensive people (elderly and the poor) are tax funded.
You get rid of medicare, medicaid....premiums would skyrocket to insane heights.
i feel sorry for Americans that don't get Healthcare when they need it and for the people who wan't to continua their education but can't
These are the reasons i don't consider America as a 1st world country