So I have to go to court in a year for a crime I didn't commit. I'm innocent but it doesn't look too good. I want to have an option to take a cyanide pill if the jury decides I'm guilty.
I've looked throughout a bunch of dark web sites like silk road, cloud nine, Black market Reloaded, Atlantis.
I can't find Sodium Cyanide pills or powder.
Hell it'll probably make the news
well sodium is pretty easy to come across, you can get that at your local chemistry supply store.
as for cyanide, believe it or not, you can get from regular apple seeds. they are rich in cyanide. google it if you dont believe me.
Just spam the internet with all the information of the case and it'll be classed as a mistrial and you'll be let off.
Of course, do it LOLNONNIMOOSLY so you're not found out...
Yes. If you get the information out there in a big way (not just a blogger or tumblr). Internet, leaflets in your home town; make sure there's not one person in your area that doesn't know. There will be no-one available for jury duty, everyone will know the case inside and out, no fair trial can take palce.
What if prison is cool though? What if you become leader of a gang or some shit, why be a pussy OP? Start a mother fucking chess club faggot.
I have this because... reasons.
Not sure if it works or not as I've not tried it myself, but you're making the stuff to an hero anyway, so what's the worst that could happen?
Ill take the goddamn bait..Op...fagot.green text you story. How the fuck you come on /b/ talk murder frames and not deliver. 1/10 for making me reply. Gotdamn fucking posers.
Why not go in a blaze of glory nigger?
>kill lots and lots
>wait for cops, letting the gas fill the house
>when they break in light the motherfucker up with a smile
whhat i would do
Potassium Cyanide or Hydrogen Cyanide will work as well or better. You need to buy Potassium Cyanide as a jewelry cleaner, though, so don't just ask for the bottle without the story about grandma's brooch.
If you have to go to jail, don’t make yourself crazy remembering all the prison movies you’ve ever seen. Being put in the slammer is a lot like starting at a new high school: it’s not that tough, as long as you pay attention from the outset and think about what kind of impression you’re making.
The following are guidelines for getting along in jail:
Watch and listen for quite a while, to get a sense of the other people you’ll be living with. Really take your time about this, because you’re likely to be dealing with different types of people than you’re used to, and it’s important to be accurate in your assessments. Some will be very decent human beings who can give you useful information and advice. On the other hand, the first ones who come up and want to make friends with you may be predators, losers, or snitches. Don’t be in a big hurry to join a group, because you’ll be taking on their baggage. Just take it easy and be pleasant with everyone, without striving to find buddies right away. Take the time to let friendships develop gradually, the way they do naturally at work, school, or the gym.
Respect others, but behave with self-respect, too. Acting scared invites bullying. And if you don’t stand up for yourself, potential allies won’t think it‘s worth the risk to stand by you.
Be very careful not to touch people by accident. If you do bump into anyone, immediately say “Excuse me.” If your apology isn’t accepted, don’t argue, but just walk away (and keep an eye on that person for future problems).
Don’t touch other people’s stuff (books, pencils, etc.) or sit on other people’s beds, without asking.
Rather than just joining a conversation, wait until someone asks your opinion. However bad your situation is, be careful not to sound like you’re whining.
you're going to court in a YEAR for being "framed for murder"
yea, now I definitely know you're making this bullshit up. If you're being charged with murder, you'd be in jail right now awaiting that so-called trial.
Nice try nigger.
In the eating area, don’t reach across other people’s trays. If you have to cough or sneeze, turn away and cover your mouth.
Before using the telephone or changing channels on the TV, make sure you check with other prisoners to see what system they’ve set up for taking turns—it’s easy to offend others by accident, if you don’t find out the “local rules.”
Don’t borrow money, don’t gamble, don’t do drugs, and don’t accept gifts from strangers. All these things can put you in debt, which could affect your safety.
Don’t snitch. Snitches are not just unpopular—they’re unsafe. Don’t even refer to other prisoners when talking with correctional officers, because people will think you’re snitching or at least being manipulated by the officers. (The primary exception to this is that if you honestly believe you’re going to be raped, you may ask to be placed in protective custody.)
New Mexico appealed to the United States Supreme Court, arguing that its state court ruling threatened a ''profound expansion'' of the role of states in extradition proceedings. Instead of automatically rendering prisoners as demanded, New Mexico said, extradition would become ''a process by which asylum states audit the functioning of penal institutions in their sister states.'' Ohio, which was not a party to the case, filed a brief signed by 39 other states, including New York and Connecticut, that urged the Justices to overturn the decision.
Seriously, they don't ,and they don't let feds take prisoners with out a shit ton of red tape
first I can't leave the god damned country because I have an ankle monitor on and if I cut it off I will only have 20 seconds before my Probation officer is notified.
I've looked into fake passports and fake ID's but I don't know how to get a new SSN
furthermore in order to run you need a LOT of money and I'm broke as fuck.
So I'm going out to a bar and get into a disagreement with some asshole about a spilled drink. I spilled his drink but only because he bumped into me. We exchanged words and then moved on.
I dind't see him until the end of the night when they were closing the bar.
I was leaving with a girl from the bar next door. He was leaving the first bar with his friends, totally wasted.
I'm outside making out with this bitch on my truck and my hand is up her skirt.
Guess fucking what niggers? out of all the fucking girls I picked out of the bar, this bitch was his girlfriend. Yeah.
So he pulls out a gun. I pull out my gun and I shoot him.
The girl is devasted and is saying I shot first and I taunted him and blah blah blah. And his friends are backing him up. I was all alone. There are no videos or surveillance.
You will have to try harder to best Budd Dwyer.
Youtube that. He gave a speech and blew off his own head in court. A fine example to all politicians and to OP.
Now if OP wasn't such a moron OP would realize OP has a year to skip the country. Stupid OP is stupid
unless anyone has any idea what onion site has cyanide...spiderman will save me
In that case they'll find a gun next to him because he was obviously pulling it out on you right? And that bitch cant be the only witness...you might get away with self defence. Are you white? Then you're most likely free. Are you black? Have fun in jail.
well that's what you get for being a dumb hick.
this isn't the wild west anymore you can't just shoot a guy.
enjoy prison, since you can't even figure out how to kill yourself.
Cut your shit, steal a car and go to New Mexico, I am serious, you can even get a job, use your old ssn, everything, they don't extradite. When a cop runs your license, they will tell you you have warrants in other states, but that they can't arrest you. Fuck it's where all the smart murderers go, fucking dumbass
If you really wan't to an hero i have a tip for you.
Pills take time and can be an incredibly painful way to go.
If you do however decide to go with pills, i would go with atleast 100mg ambien (the equal of about 20 pills), some morphine or kodeine to take the edge away and then drink a sixpack of beer.
You should die in your sleep that night and hopefully your body will react as if you have a cold because of the kodeine. (Which isn't to say you won't wake up because your head is exploding and you feel like you are painfully dying (because you are))
you didn't respond properly:
Did he have a fucking gun with him or did he not?
To me you just sound stupid as fuck, I mean, you did kill him and you are dumb enough to kill in a place where people know you, fucking lold.
Whenever I get in scuffs like that people got no clue who I am or where I come from. Leave, rinse and repeat
Killing isn't the same thing as murder you fucking retard.
If OP story it was self defense and therefore legal and not murder meaning he was framed because the victims friends and his GF bore false witness against OP.
Also my god is there a fuck load of pansies in this thread. It isn't wrong to shoot somebody if they take a gun out on you. If OP didn't shoot him he could be dead. Why the fuck would you value some pricks life over your own? OP made the right call and he is getting fucked if the jury says he is guilty.
You know most rational, smart people wouldn't even get into a situation like that.
And I can argue it is wrong to shoot someone preemptively. He didn't shoot at you, you took the first shot.
There was no guarantee he was going to shoot you. You could've tried to diffuse the situation, you could've talked it out.
Instead you shot another hick.
Anyways who gives a fuck?
If you are innocent there is nothing to worry about. You just hire another lawyer to get you out of jail then sue the system for wrongful imprisonment. No need to kill yourself. That is a cowards way out.
rat poison is slower and there is an easy in-ambulance fix for it... cyanide does not.... i work as an emt and i have done the court shift...nobody tried to kill themself on my shift but i had all the proper drugs avaiable for poisoning.
I am not arguing that OP is a fuckhead for getting into a situation where somebody died. But it's better to gun somebody down then try to talk it out and be a good guy and get killed. Also they were drinking so rational is fucked plus OP was diddling his girl so that makes it worse.
i'm not a fucking hick who hooks up with dumb loose women and then gets a gun pulled on him in a fucking back alley.
learn how not to be shit at life.
also no guarantee he was going to shoot him.
I'm never going to fucking prison. This guy is.
I am immediately better than this faggot.
He wasn't in court you goober. He was giving a speech at a news conference.
Find an online film photography supply store.
Buy a lot of potassium ferricyanide.
Go to hardware store and buy either brick cleaner "muriatic acid" or sulfuric acid-based drain unclogger (it MUST be sulfuric acid. Potassium or sodium hydroxide draino will not work.)
If you want to do it quick, just get a bucket and dump the two together and breath the fumes. The mixture evolves hydrogen cyanide gas. If that doesn't sound deadly enough for you feel free to google it to confirm.
If you want to be a little more clever and leave a lot less mess for whoever finds you to clean up, rig up an apparatus in which you can mix the two aforementioned chemicals, but the evolved gas is routed through a tube which bubbles through a bucket containing lye dissolved in water. The hydrogen cyanide will bubble through the lye (sodium hydroxide) and form sodium cyanide. Use an excess of potassium ferricyanide in the first step to ensure that all the lye is converted to cyanide.
Take the bucket of water and carefully boil off the water, leaving pure(-ish) sodium cyanide. With gloves, fill up some pill capsules. One is WAY more than enough to kill you. Properly label your waste so whoever stumbles upon your dead body and suicide lab doesn't die too.
Take one capsule daily until dead
My friend accidentally killed a lady street racing it took him like two years before they even finished building a case.
I've heard peach pits have a lot of cyanide in them, and i'm sure you could find a way to extract it. Get it down to a powder, carefully obviously, and put it in a capsule or two. You could store that shit in your ear or something crazy.
Doesn't matter if you shot first. He pulled a gun on you. You had the right to defend yourself. You felt your life was threatened. If you can't afford a lawyer, the court will get you one and you can pay the bill later.
If you didn't call 911 immediately after and say what happened... Then that was your only mistake and you are fucked
Should've just wiped his whole crew and his chick while you were at it. Maybe stage some sort of scene if you're into that, otherwise just get in the truck and bail. No witnesses or recordings right?
Live in glorious TX where if I feel my life is in danger I can light someone up like a Christmas tree
You're a complete fucking tard
>angry drunk guy pulls gun
>"hey man we can talk this out"
>some more begging
>he kills your ass
>you don't have to worry about jail because you're a dead libtard.
Sure is easy to say 'you could've found another way' when there isn't a gun pointing in your face and you aren't a second away from death faggot
You talk it out or you run.
goddamn it why are you so fucking stupid?
>YOU SHOOT THE GUY
no there are other ways around that
>YOU FAG YOU GOTTA SHOOT HIM
not really there are ways to get out of situations most of the time without violence
>SO YOU SHOOT HIM
alrighty well I'm out of here.
Gonna go do something that matters.
Enjoy being wrong at everything most of the time, idiot.
Hey. Even though i know i'll get shit for this cause i'm posting on /b/ of 4chan, how can i obtain cyanide capsules?
I want to kill myself. Simple as that. I've had a fucked up life and i can't handle it anymore so i want to kill myself as fast as possible. (Instant death with a gun or cyanide capsule would be great)
I'm a Australian so we can't get guns unless we we go through a long long period to obtain a licence then a long time afterwards to get a gun.
Seriously if another Aussie was in here and lived close to Brisbane with a gun i'd travel to them and use that to blow my brains out.
Now i've said my thing i'll let everyone pick on me cause that's what 4chan does.
Thanks anyway /b/
White folks are steadily jacking negros style..... why don't you little bitches ever act and dress "white"?
I never used a gun. My father nerven used a gun. My grandfather never used a gun. And my mafuckin grandgrandfather never used a gun. They all lived a long and happy life. Your such a faggot thinking reallife is something like GTA. Get out of the basement you retarded little fuck
nigger faggot detected
can't stop laughing you idiot
That's not being framed, that's actually killing somebody.
I hope you enjoy soundless farts, cuz where you're going, you ain't makin' no noise no more from yer cornhole
Okay that happens everywhere it doesn't mean there aren't a few nuts out there ready to murder on a moments notice.
If you actually think anywhere in america, the majority of people will pull a gun over some small shit you're a complete fucking tard.
But we already know that from
>he pulls a gun on you
>talk it out man
Having a gun pointed at you is a deadly threat. If someone is just holding a gun, they usually get shot by cops. If they even try to lift it up to point it at them, they get mowed down.
However, in most places firearms are forbidden by law in places that serve alcohol. Not sure if he had it in his car or the exact details, but may be guilty of a lesser charge. Certainly not a murder case.
Okay, so what about a forensics investigation? If OP's DNA isn't any fuckin where at the crime scene, how do they know he's the main suspect?
Either that, or OP is a godamn liar and just wants a way to escape passing time for committing his crime.
>Are you black? Have fun in jail.
Also this would've helped. Maybe this was the truth 10 years ago, but right now he could go on a killing spree and still play it off as one crusader guy sticking it to the man.
Admittedly he could've put one in the guy's shoulder. But chances are he isn't some operative trained to stay cool under pressure, but an average drunk murican with a gun.
HAHAHAHAHA Yep, America. Land of the free.
I don't fucking think so. All you idiots carry guns and shoot eachother. You are either at risk of being shot, or put in jail for shooting someone else.
Fuck that. I'm glad I don't live in that shit hole.
You are fucking stupid if you think shooting somebody in the shoulder would diffuse the situation. The man had a gun, if you shoot him in the shoulder he would assume he is fighting for his life. If you are shooting an armed aggressor, you shoot to kill.
In that case, a witness is as reliable as a lie detector test. How many "witnesses" ended up fucking a case up due to them lying and claiming a black man was at the scene, when it really wasn't a black man? They're better off doing a forensics investigation above all else.
operatives are trained to put multiple shots on center mass to effectively drop the threat.
If there are multiple threats, this put every threat down on the ground, then you do a second sweep; closest threat to furthest threat and eliminate them while they are incapacitated.
It's inhuman to leave them alive to suffer.
You're stupid if you actually believe this. I live in one of the biggest cities in the country, and I've never had a negative experience with a gun, nor has anybody I know. I live two blocks away from the biggest "hood" in Phoenix, and I've never even heard gunshots.
Shut the fuck up you 3rd world, eurofag, tight-pants and tea with biscuits fucking queer.
Your cute euro bitches will keep sucking and fucking American dicks, and we'll keep telling your country what they can and can't do.
You know why? Because America. That's why, bitch.
You're right, you shouldn't risk nicking his subclavian artery. Better to outright kill him.
Assuming he could still aim or even hold an object. I'm guessing, but I don't think the guy was robocop. Slightest bit of torsion is going to send this guy to his knees whincing in pain
>Implying you're chances of getting stabbed to death are lower than me getting shot.
Unless you live in Detroit, Chicago or another nigger infested shithole, you are pretty damn safe. Probably safer than in Europe since people don't know if you're packing heat or not and don't want to find out.
OP here guys i totally trolled you kekekekekek
Shoots a guy, but can't shoot yourself?
Just saying that this sort of shit doesn't happen here, because people do pull out guns on others over a pissy fight.
Not even a eurofag, I don't wear tight pants or like tea. Do enjoy biscuits though. You are carrying on like a moron about a continent I'm not even from. If America is so great why can't you defeat a bunch of sand niggers in rags? You have only made it worse. lel
I don't know if you're aware, but we've killed more ragheads than the population of your shitty country.
Didn't you guys belong to England or something? We did too at one time, but then we fought them. In a war. With guns. Merica.
You made the right call, OP. The most they'll hit you with is manslaughter, but not if you can prove he pulled his gun first.
They will look down on you being at a bar with your gun though.
I don't, but that's what we were talking about. I said it would've been convenient if he'd just shot him in the shoulder. You then went on about how that shit's impossible and you gotta freak out.
We can't defeat them because our military's ROE and SOPs have been crippled by libtards. If we were allowed to use the brute force we are capable of, we could wipe those fuckers off the face of the earth in less than a week.
For fuckin real!
Murder doesn't take a fucking year to go to trial ass clown.
There is a difference between murder and manslaughter but besides that.. two years? You're full of shit and you know it.
So the only real problem is that the other witnesses are falsely testifying against OP?
That kind of shit gets demolished in cross examination. If OP has a good lawyer he can get out of this.
Like seriously. You get a witness to slip up in cross examination, and then impeach them. Rinse and repeat, theres no case left against OP
Remember, its up to the state to prove it was (im assuming second degree) murder.
Yes you have killed more. But like I said it has made the situation worse. For a country that claims the strongest military power in the wolrd, you can't beat a bunch of primitive ragheads and are about to start another fucking war.
We don't belong to England. I like how you just agreed with the fact your country is filled with violence and murder to resolve any situation. Nice one bro. Keep killing eachother hopefully there will be less of you to plague this planet.
>Slightest bit of torsion is going to send this guy to his knees whincing in pain
No. But maybe it would do that to you. The question is, why are you the kind of person to let go of your weapon and surrender when someone has hurt you enough? Why do you think they are going to be merciful or not just fucking shoot you dead?
You know I see on the news almost every night about people in UK being arrested for joining ISIS and pro-ISIS related groups in UK.
If I were as fucking stupid as you I would assume everyone in the UK is extremely pro terrorist and you can't walk down the street without someone waving an ISIS flag and shouting at you in arabic for not burning an american flag as you go.
Luckily I'm not a complete tard like you, who takes a couple incidents and goes LOL TEH WHOLE CUNTRY IS LIKE DAT IT SUKS DERE LAWL
So apparently no one here knows people with a concealed carry license cant carry in a bar. So right there you're fucked, especially if it was just a throw away..you still got it or no?? Was it even a legal firearm??
They're going to be neither. They're gonna be shocked and hurt. You effectively just rammed a spear through his musculature and shoulderblade. Try biting through that, lifting a couple pounds of steel and hitting a target after that when you're an average joe drunk out of his mind.
I can't even argue with someone this stupid. It's hurting my brain that you don't even see the fallacies in your own comments, let alone understand mine.
ISIS deserves what they get. I didn't agree with the first war, or sending ground troops now, but I certainly agree with drones.
Fuck you and your shitty country. It must be wonderful living in a place where you're not free to make your own decisions.
I hope Australia's invaded by North Korea. You won't have any guns to protect yourself because they're "not safe".
Fucking Russia could come here now and the militias and civilian population would give them nearly as much trouble as the military.
I've got plenty of ammo and not enough targets.
And how many innocents would be killed by using brute force? Don;t forget all the innocents who have already been killed by your bombings.
Listen to you. Again you are only enforcing the fact your country America is fueled by violence and killing. Is that your solution to everything?
>talks about how america can't even win war
>doesn't even realize his country is part of the COALITION that is fighting the war
Another eurofag who is too ignorant to even realize your military is there too. Apparently you don't understand gorilla warfare, it's not a matter of 'beating a bunch of rag heads' it's a matter of winning over a population. In regions where there are so many poor, ignorant and desperate people they will always find more dumbies they can brainwash or pay to fight us or plant a bomb they made on the street a few blocks down from his house. We have to win over the people, develop a stable democratic government in a region that doesn't even understand the concept of democracy. They are practically still a feudal government system.
Have your brother who is the civil engineer who built the prison tattoo the blueprints onto his body. Meet an old mafia member, a Mexican, a pedophile, a black man, and DB Cooper. Then, escape from prison. Easy as that.
go to a galvanisation factory and try to sneak in. you can find massive amounts of cyanide there. a buddy was working at such a factory, the buckets were everywhere, nobody would have even noticed if you took a little bag of it with you.
A witness’s bias, interest, partiality/motive or corruption is always relevant for impeachment.
a. Three categories
i. Relationship between Witness and Parties
Ie. Familial, employment, business, sexual, and/or hostile relationship
oh australia is part of the coalition and has troops over there as well
>claims americans are ignorant for allowing our country to participate in war over there
>too fucking ignorant to even realize that his own country is there as well
Well done chap
The real question, OP, is why you're dicking around with cyanide and killing just yourself.
If you're going down this road, you might's well turn your attention to fun with chlorine and whip up an impromptu blister gas.
The real problem with this is you assume OP is delta force shooter who can put his bullet exactly where he wants to. He made a panicked draw and aimed center target, it takes a ridiculous amount of training to be able to hit a specific part of the human anatomy on a combat draw. Regular troops or para-military groups like the police can't even do it, only those with selective and extensive training are capable of that.
I was having a giggle m8. Just saying Americans ideals are retarded as everything results in violence in some way.
Australian. I have said I am not European 3 times already.
I'm glad we are irrelevant. Hopefully we can stay out of the next world war Murricans are going to start.
Tell me how I am not free to make my own decisions? Your country is no more 'free' then ours if you did not know. If you disagree, tell me how so?
Also we have guns here, just safer gun laws. Look them up before you make your self look more stupid. Alot of Australians own guns, we just don't carry guns on our persons like murricans do, hence we don't have stupid shootings like OP's story. Are you one of those idiots who thinks he needs a gun to protect himself? Why do you think that? Oh right, because tho other guy with a gun also thinks the same thing.....
You aren't going to jail moron. His friends are wasted meaning their testimony will be faulty and full of holes. Cross examination will fuck them up. Other people saw you leaving with the girl as well as a spilled drink. Since his girlfriend is a key eye witness her testimony will be worth shit due to the obvious motive to lying.
If you have no record you will win 100%. Since there is no priors nor any overwhelming motive and good character witnesses, you will be fine. The fact that he had a gun will also help your could multiple fold.
You are going to win. Any lawyer worth his salt will prove this. Then you go after his friends for perjury under oath. Remember Zimmer, don't be a dumbass when in court.