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>>571349456 The facility I work at, the bodies are received and stored in cardboard boxes. They are also cremated in the same boxes. As far as clothing, some are delivered nude, but depending on family and/or next of kin, they are dressed to desire and sometimes with personal belongings
>>571349772 Bones under the immense heat become very brittle and often break into small pieces, which are combined with the ashes. Some larger pieces go into an electric grinder before being combined with the ashes.
do you ever like masturbate over a dead corpse and then realize its not dead but really alive and looks really frightened and disgusted so you beat it to death and starts to burn it and then realize its still screaming and you dont know what the fuck to do so you leave work early and when you return the next morning there is a picture of her on your desk?
>>571350136 lol, no. I have heard of this happening. but luckily never to me. Our cadavers usually spend some time in the cooler before there is space in the incinerator.
>>571350207 There is a brush tool that we use, and a small chute close to the opening of the incinerator where the ashes are swept into. There is a small box at the bottom of the chute, that catches the ashes and removed and filed after. There is a small possibility that ashes contains at least a little from a previous cremation on busy days
>>571350269 No pics, and never had a sexual experience with any cadavers. But im not going to lie, Beautiful women do die, and we do cremate them.
>>571350324 Friend of the family had been in the business for many years, and mentioned an opening, I tried the position and just began full time work shortly after.
>>571350370 Its common for families to provide jewelry to be cremated with them, but not typically kept with them in the containers they end up in. We dont like gold because it melts and creates more work on busy days.
>>571350421 was answered, But yes, it is possible to have slight mixing with other cadavers, but not much
>>571350597 No sir, Its not as attractive as people may think, Sometimes the face may be attractive, because of funeral arrangements, but the rest of the body isnt much to look at after a certain point. I knew of a delivery driver that was fired after photographing and touching them though...
>>571350608 No, everything is closely documented and watched over, although I have done small jobs for pet owners that cant afford vet cremation services. I have also been approached by some sketchy people for this very request, but value my income, and not taking that risk. lol
>>571350919 Yes, They arrive in a cardboard box, stored in a cooler room until the paperwork clears, then they are pushed in to the incinerator after the proper heat is reached. The cardboard hides most of the gruesome stuff, but its still pretty interesting to see. It just inflames and becomes red hot before collapsing in itself.
>>571350964 Its a deal in caparison to what a burial cost.
>>571352861 They were some rednecky drug people. Looked like some bugged out meth heads that said it was a family member, and they couldnt afford a proper booking with us, I had to turn it down. Beleive it or not, authorities plan sting operations to find this sort of thing.
>>571352879 Friends of the family. Its a pretty relaxing job once you get used to it.
>>571353480 If its something like clothing, the ashes are collected together, unfortunately things that dont burn like metals and such are thrown away, or offered a different containment option for the family. A container that may mount the object inside the box
Cardboard can support a human body and more. I used to work on a warehouse and sometimes we'd get half-a-ton pallets in cardboard supports. They were shitty, you can't store them and then get ruined by a little of water
>>571354269 The strangest work order I ever had, was a man who donated his body to science research. His family still wanted ashes. So they sent in a portion of his arm to cremate, from about just below the shoulder.
>>571354359 Its about 7 feet long and 2 feet wide, which fits most people. There are metal shelving in the cooler that they are stored on, and there is a metal gurney that helps move them from cooler to incinerator.
>>571354378 No, but have found bullet fragments that later had to be given to police for evidence in certain cases. I also found a tip from a knife after the cremation.
>>571355765 Yeah, similar, but that has to do with the filtration systems before the air is release. Unfortunately for us, its much worse inside.
>>571355947 A body of average size, about 3-4 hours at 1600 degrees
>>571356009 Took a few months. I had some nightmares at first. The ones that shake me up are generally children. It never gets easier. Or when its someone you know.
>>571356139 Not really, its a service that will be needed with or without me. just sad to see how some people leave the earth
>>571356209 Some males have erections, depending on cause of death. No paranormal experiences, Only because i dont believe in that, but noises have some other explanation. Idk maybe its denial Only thing that follows me home is the odor
It's kinda funny how you get daily carry threads with faggots saying they always carry a lock knife. The guys that end up in your ovens with blades broken off in their chests are often people like these that don't realise having a knife doesnt = a fight that's as good as won, it means that if the guy's stronger he's going to use it to kill you when you might have just got your ass beat if you didnt have it.
>>571350576 >The smell is not too bad, with proper ventilation but its not for everyone. The cooler smells worse at times. Contains usually around 20 cadavers
What kind of old ass retort do you have? The process of getting a new one in NJ is insane from what I have heard, EPA and everything, took years for the place near us, filters and everything for outside air. Nice to know that they care about mercury from our fillings when we are burned but not the shit being in our mouth from dentists in the first place.
>I do not deal too much with the financial end, but some families regret coming in to witness a cremation of loved ones. Its not a spectator friendly event.
I have had to grab hair for a family when I was helping my dad at his funeral home from an auto accident victim, couldn't find hair from the "head" that wasn't covered in blood. I guess maybe I got used to corpses but seeing them open the retort and a glowing in spots ember like partial skull and bones is some freaky shit
>>571358012 I smoke weed on occasion, never while working or id probly freak the fuck out
>>571358224 The person i knew was an old coworker. Wasnt easy to do. They are identified both numerically on the box and by name with toe tags. We have to check and make they all match up before cremation >>571358224
>>571358548 I also carry a firearm, I carry a glock 26 9mm
>>571358603 Basically just how to talk to the family, and which terms to use and not to use. Families dont like hearing corpse or cadaver. We refer to them as remains to the family, things like that.
>>571358763 Some of the sickest shit comes in for cremation. Think of all the accidents that require closed casket 10x. Most people involved in horrific deaths are cremated. Ive seen it all, Decapitations both clean cuts and ripped. All sorts of dis memberments, Probly the most memerable and cringe worthy to /b/ was when a man came in with no penis. it was next to him to be cremated with him, His wife killed him and cut off his dick for cheating.
Yes families can invite up to 6 people to watch or witness cremation. Its not a fun day for us. Things have to be done differently to protect company reputation
>>571359695 I wont lie, Its come pretty close. Cremating young children never gets easier. Has to be the closest Ive come to crying. Try not to become emotionally involved, But for the few hours it takes, you cant help but read google and see what happened to them.... Sad shit this world here
>>571360201 Interested in this, would it even be practical to burn that many people as you do? You said that an average nigger takes 3-4 hours to burn. That means for each oven you could do about 7 dudes a day. Let's say 10 because they were emaciated.
How often, if at all, does this job give you the fear or a bleak outlook on mortality? Do you find you suffer from anxiety more since you started working there?
The overwhelming majority (myself included) have this belief that they wont die. Not necessarily in the long run, but rather that they'll never be killed in a situation where they could do something to avert it, or get blindsided by death. They think that for them to die in an accident they'll have to seriously make a major mistake and they probably wont ever get shot or stabbed. They think that for them it'll be old age or something like cancer if they're super unlucky.
So after dealing with hundreds of people who never saw it coming, do you ever find yourself with nerves that death's always around like the sword of damocles? Even reading shit like this makes me feel this way.
>>571360303 Say Remains instead of Body, Corpse, cadaver... Dont mention to much details of the process, treat with respect, offer accommodations, and how to prepare the items they provide for remembrance, its all simple things
>>571360347 On rare occasions, the M.E. has to prepare them in sections so they can fit. One man back a few years ago, took up 3 boxes, and took a much longer time.
>>571360359 There is no window in the newer incinerators. But i have seen inside with the door open. The skin melts off the skulls and the skulls glow abit before they break down, Most of the time they combust after the skin is gone and stay on fire until the end
>>571360880 Have seen a shadow 'man' during SP but not the other two. The phenomena is most likely a common trait we all share in the brain. That is why multiple people experience it exclusively from one another.
>>571359984 Not OP but i work at a university and part of my job is delivering/getting rid of bodies for the med students. Never had a "bloater" but i've had a few leaks. When they leave they are put in bags with some other preservative shit or something and then the cardboard boxes, and i've had bags tear from the weight while i'm moving them. Shit's nasty.
>>571361439 I really would not like to deal with that in particular. Other wise I think i could deal. I used to bury farm animals, and it wasn't that bad except when they twitch around. The vet would come and kill them right there. I suppose it would be harder to deal with people though. We would dig the hole and hook them by the feet and drag them in. One time it was a fat horse and we pulled its leg out of the docket because it was so fat. Luckily we strapped the other side and those legs held.
>>571360848 >I am guessing you have to air on the side of sensitivity rather than efficiency?
>>571360927 Its a pretty boring job, other then the occasional implant explosion, pace maker poppers, theres not much other then the gore to touch on
>>571360953 100% My outlook on life has changed since i started here. I realized how easy it is to die and how common it really is. There are several corpses that come in and cause of death isnt clear, could be a number of things. Quite eye opening
>>571361120 Some people can afford that, to be cremated in a real casket, There is a such thing as a cremation casket which is made of a lighter easier to burn material that resembles a casket, still more costly then a cardboard box, but easier for the the witnesses to see. We do not provide this option however
>>571361857 You get used to it. Grew up on a farm too so pretty used to dead things. Just took a while to get used to it being people. Never had to deal with any kids, but a lot of people in their 20's-30's and that kinda makes you think. It's weirder moving body parts than it is bodies though.
Fellow crematory operator and grave digger here, i was prosessing the cremains once and the machine jams up. open it up and start pulling out scalpels, forceps, needles. Corner did autopsy and when he was done just dumped his med tray in the guys chest and sewed him up.
In Auschwitz the authorities were not burdened by respect for the dead or any need to consider civilian rules or laws regarding cremation. Multiple bodies were cremated together. The muffles (the actual openings in the oven; there were 52 in total in Auschwitz) were filled with as many bodies as could be fit into them. The men who worked in the Sonderkommandos quickly learned how to combine the bodies of fat people, skeletal 'Muselmänner' and children to achieve maximum results (that is, more bodies could be burned in less time). Once the first bodies started to burn they just kept putting more bodies in to keep the fires hot. The result was continuous operation at very high efficiency in which very little fuel was needed to keep the process going for hours or days.
Yeah. In the one's I've been to they've went down a little coffin elevator, but it just depends on wether the actual crematorium is in the basement or the room next door. It just goes through into the cremation room and the oompa loompas chuck it in the oven. As far as I'm aware they do it there and then since if the funeral's happening they're probably greenlit for a cremation.
I think because of the lower population here and because we dont really go in for the open casket thing and convoluted embalming process we just cremate per actual funeral. If I'm not mistaken OP will be operating from a sort of dedicated crematorium with a morgue so people will have their funerals, go to his place, then wait in line in the fridge til it's their turn coz they'll be burning shitloads per day to keep up.
Nowadays we burn the bones until they're glowing masses of calcium phosphate so they're not even organic anymore they're just sterile compounds.
You can half-ass it since the body will be skeletized in like half an hour but you're gonna be left with burnt bones that are still technically human remains and therefore biohazardous. I dont think the nazis wanted to make sure ashes were sterile before delivering them back to their loved ones.
>>571361393 Sounds like a cremationist convention, which exists.
>>571361412 Yeh, but that mostly is concealed by the cardboard box, which goes up in flames pretty fast as well
>>571361416 Its happened, but not with my company. we have a whole room filled with file cabinets that are filled with boxes of ashes, once the family makes arrangements, they are picked up and scanned to verify the id
>>571361813 Often times are removed, but right in the box with the ashes. On occasion some older corpses have metal spines, metal bracing from medical procedures, which are thrown away and collected by a scrap metal person later
I think what I was meaning by my question and OPs answer is that while everyone dies, nobody expects to die in retarded ways, which incidentally is the most common cause of death. Stupid shit you dont see coming, because if you did guess what? They wouldnt kill you
>>571362776 I didn't particularly enjoy it but it is just something you have to do. It was really weird at first but then you just realize that death is a part of life. I suppose hat is what would happen to your outlook with people if it was what you had to deal with everyday.
About the boxes moving, this does have an explanation.
I knew one forensic pathologist and a few porters at morgues and generally the first thing that happens during the decomposition process is rampancy of the gut flora causing abdominal bloating. Gas movement and escape through the mouth can cause corpses to partially sit up and groan. Happens all the time pre-autopsy like when morgues recieve bodies but getting it as far along as your end would mean special circumstances like a body reaching you quickly, without autopsy, and not enough time in cold storage for that kind of decomposition to happen
>>571366215 Its not a special practice really, its just a term we coined at work. When someone dies in a sit down position and need to be layed on a gurney for transport. They break the bones so they can be position properly
I dont understand what the point is you're trying to make. That the Nazis were using magic?
The heat inside the ovens of them and now will have been comparable, the only difference is that the old ones required a longer start up, more difficult maintainence, were not sealed (like OP said when you dont know the cause of death you dont want contaminants getting out of the oven that easily). Also the modern ovens have electrical controls. The advancement in the new ones is mainly on ease of use, keeping to regulations, and safety. They work almost exactly the same.
I mean clearly you're some holocaust conspiracy theorist of some kind so I dont know why I'm humoring you but for more information just consult google like everyone else, I shouldnt have to be telling you this shit
>>571368738 Simply apply. I knew people in the business so it was easier for me
>>571368757 I wear my steel toes But on occasion that we have to enter the machine, We have white jumpers and white booties that cover our shoes lol
>>571369181 I would imagine. The skin melts almost immediately, and things start to boil pretty fast, Dehydration of the skin and insides is pretty fast. Once everything is dried out it catches fire and burns most of the time. My better guess would be maybe 10-15 seconds if its on full temp
>>571369218 I use a ton of air fresheners, my gf hates the smell when she uses my car still, although I dont notice it and most people in my car dont notice it
>>571369437 Depends on your experience, Most places only like to hire experienced people in this field
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