Last thread got deleted, not sure why. Anyway I'm still bored and ready to answer any other questions on GG
why do people like to watch other people play games instead of playing the games themselves? It all seems really boring, overall.
Beats me, although i'm good friends with jon and arin, and currently getting to know dan and ross, i was against/still am against the show altogether. Although i consider it more of a comedy podcast with gaming content in the background
No. i mean i do i just don't want to put myself at risk of any impending lawsuits, we all had to sign NDAs after the incident and so if anyone knew who I was i'd almost definitely lose my contract with Polaris/makerstudios and they'd probably make sure it'd be pretty much impossible for me to get a job elsewhere
So we know something happened around or at E3 2013 that caused Jon to leave, care to tell us what?
Incident? I wasn't here when the last guy showed up. and if you'rea gainst it, how did you end up working with them on it?
Long story short, arin got a little too hungry for money and made decisions without consulting jon. This combined with previous tensions between the two through other events prior to the big decision to introduce steam train was what pushed jon over the edge and leave the show
honestly she's very hit or miss. I personally think she can be alright, but I've seen her bad side. She can get pissed off and arin pretty much does anything she says most of the time. She hates it when she doesnt get what she wants and most of the time arin will do anything to make her happy (which i know sounds cute but its honestly creepy the hold she can have on him)
was hoping this would come up. Let me start off by saying that I am completely impartial in this matter. I am not taking sides. That being said I have never seen something so childish in my entire career in this industry. This was blown up so unnecessarily, and the truth is simple. Its already well known that nicole (jons gf) and suzy don't get along. I would go as far as saying that she actually hates suzy. But honestly this was just a simple matter of confrontation of the two leading to some buried feelings to surface momentarily, and before anything happened jon and nicole left. Nothing happened, there was not punching/slapping
a lot of shit happened in the follow up - and the final "staw on the camel's back was that arin basically brought in steam train with a different concept than what was agreed and this pissed of jon, to the extent that he decided to take the opportunity he had to leave to new york. I guess it was a win-win, jon got to work on jontron more and arin (who already had dan lined up to replace jon) got to have his way with the channel
honestly ive yet to see him work on any animation stuff in the past couple of months, maybe its just coincidence. but I'll tell you now, since GG started he's become one lazy motherfucker when it comes to animation, even going so far as to train suzy in some of the basics of cleaning up and getting her to do it
Ive only seen one (the one with her playing the 3ds) and I honestly cant tell if its fake or not, Id like to but it doesnt look like their room...
Jon is endearing when he's not being super obnoxious.
How much of that being obnoxious and pointlessly destructive is him being 'in character', and how much is him actually just being kinda wanton. (I recall the story about the gingerbread house in particular, as well as that drill game for GBA's box.)
I like both Dan and Jon and I don't think either of them is better than the other. The GG community is so toxic about something that isn't really their business. Just let Jan do his show and enjoy GG at the same time.
no, I won't
Honestly, no. In real life he's a great person and one of the most modest people you'll ever meet. Yeah he'll pull of shit like that as a joke but everyone does, that's all it was, a joke. No need to take it an generalise his entire personality based on one event
Ive been getting to know him these last few months and I think it stems down to the fact that during streams he unbelievable more diluted down that off the show. from what ive experienced hes a more washed down, censored version of jon on the show but off it he's honestly one of the funniest guys I know. sure there's the odd joke he'll say that pushes the boundaries but I don't think its enough to offend anyone, but its a double edged, and it means he's very hit or miss comedy wise.
So hard to find fanart that includes all the current grumps and Jon.
>Jon is super cool
That's what I wanted to hear, thank you, Anon.
Also, do me a favor and browbeat them into playing and beating Jet Force Gemini. It'd be perfect, with its almost two-player story mode that would allow Dan to participate while Arin takes the helm, so to speak.
Dan is a scripted comedian. He writes songs, days/weeks/months in advance of actually recording them, and can try over and over again to get it right.
I'm not sure why Arin thought it'd be a good idea to put him on the spot. He doesn't know anything about videogames anyways. Like, don't get me wrong. He seems super cool, and his stories would be an amazing addition to an already established straight-man/fall-guy setup like Golden Grumps had, but him just trying to fill Jon's shoes is a formula that doesn't even begin to make sense.
Especially when you consider than lots of the best moments were heated arguments between Arin and Jon over video games, and without much personal experience or investment in them, Dan is more likely to just be like "oh okay" when Arin voices something that Jon would make a big deal out of.
I like Dan and it's such a shame that he has to hold back to be more PG rated on the show, I truly think Arin has lost alot of his edge and thus Steam Train has become my favorite show because of Ross.
Also, have you met Cory Spazkid? Is he as awkward as the lets plays and table flip made him out to be? I love his work but damn.... dude had spaghetti everywhere.
honestly dan was pretty much forced into it. maybe forced is a bit a harsh word, but it certainly wasnt a top priority for him, and it was clear that he wasnt 100% with the idea. I can see why people think he's not a worthy replacement but you have to admit the chemistry the guys have is great (even if arin is acting half the time)
I'm being serious when I say this...
Anyone who believes OP is fucking retarded. You can say... "Oh well this is all the proof I have" all day, but the truth is, you're an over obsessed fanboy who wants attention.
You're living out your fantasy through this thread and it's sad.
OP doesn't know anybody and is trying to share his mad eup theories. If anyone on /b/ was over 16 years old right now they'd consider my comment.
Stories and info posted here... Etc
OP you're pathetic
I like the show as it is. I agree that I like it as a comedy podcast that I often love to have on while I multitask splitscreen, something like the grinding/afk-able portions of a game I enjoy otherwise. You don't have to watch the game unless it's a really-game-commentary-focused episode (like 1-offs). But if it's just unrelated story-time, then its great to just listen to and check the video when you hear "WOAH" or want to know why they are lost or just died in the game or something interesting.
It's great if you want to relive sitting on the couch with your friends and talking about stuff while you played games (like say playing your 1000th match of something fun like Smash or some other multiplayer game and just having fun with your friend in the same way you would doing any other activity with them). They're funny like old friends because they just act like friends together and let us listen in. And I find them funny - like my old friends).
I've watched it all in the last 2 years. I just started from the beginning. (Was real depressed and had been no lifing living in bed for 3 years straight while my money all dwindled away - but got all my shit ago like 6 months ago).
Some of the game game ones they play make excellent watches, particularly any of the one-offs or cool games I never got to play. Near all of the Jon Era I watched intently laughing my ass off.
As the show moved on and nowadays I've noticed that it's changed format to what you just said.
sorry didnt mean to blue-ball any of you guys, what i meant was that (to my knowledge) nothing physical happened. I know there's rumors saying jon punched suzy or some shit like that, as far as I'm aware none of this happened, and he definitely would have brought it up if something like that did happen. As far as i know there were a few words exchanged, buried feelings about one another surfaced briefly and before you know its all over with the apparent damage being done
thats great, if you don't believe me then please, just leave. Nobody is expecting you to sit here and ready my "fantasy". I have no way to prove myself without exposing my identity so you're just going to have to take my word for it. sooner or later this info is going to be public domain anyway and you'll know i was right, I just think devoted fans deserve to know earlier
he was samefagging, trying to act like another person was backing up his claim that you are not who you say you are. (basically replied to his own comment saying" yup agree with this".
Not that I know of. I know dan has shown signs of wanting to leave in the past but we know he'll not do it, not for a while anyway
As for ross, it was obvious from day 1 that he doesn't want to be on the show. Arin would always try and guilt him into staying though, despite him urgently needing more time to concentrate on his channel
This shit right here, almost indisputable right? im sure it wasnt taken in their house though
trust me, the shit that lead to this incident happened before e3, although this incident could be seen as the proverbial nail in the coffin
literally 90+% of the grumps fanbase right there...
>What a fucking goober
Good job dumb fuck
You just made yourself look like a retard
Thanks for that response btw.
I've always curious about the event because they had been such legitimate friends from what we could tell from 1 year of listening to the have fun gaming with us.
Then the lack of transparency as Jon was replaced and his title of Not-So-Grump unforgivingly reapplied to a very different partner - followed by a permanent silence and silencing about the issue from Arin was jarring.
I didn't dislike Arin for it, really. He wanted his show to continue and I'm glad it has, Dan made it a new show but still worth watching and an interesting guy and brought more legit sounding honest talk between Arin and a friend that we could listen to - even if they no longer made quite as hilarious commentary EVERY episode that they played and narrated over a game. But, instead, we were promised air time with nonstop personal stories and anecdotes, no matter how trivial, about them and the Steam Train crew. I still love that kind of episode, too. The one-offs and plenty of game choices brought great game-talk-and-footage, still, though.
I heard Jon's side of the story: that he wasn't going to talk about the breakup specifically, but there were some misunderstandings particularly with how GG handled it. Jon doesn't mind if people bring up the laughs / times from his GG time - but he did want to spend time and his own future on The JontronShow instead - even though single episodes take so long to make (and I think worth it, they're good). Arin censors.
Sorry didn't see this untill now, It's seriously not a matter of whether or not it's important for us to know because quite frankly, they dont give a shit about the fanbase. All they care about is numbers, and anything that can hurt the numbers needs to be gotten rid off immediately
All major polaris staff know about the events leading up to the break up and what caused it in the final stages, but the shit was covered up so fast its crazy
I was actually with them discussing the issue in the early stages before she decided to file it in, she basically made out that they stealing from her and that they didnt deserve the views they were getting on it, despite her being aware it wasnt monetised so i can confirm she was literally just doing it out of spite
haha it's cool man I don't think you sounded like a dick. It's not malware, it's actually on steam for like 10 or 15 bucks. I pirated it solely because of the sound effects thing.
Their fans worship them whether they interact with them or not. A few pics on instagram and a few tweets here and there and that's all the public interaction they need to stay relevant. They're geniuses in that minimal effort is required now for them to make big money
I'm trying to find the big ol' screencap that summarized the situation, but the tl;dr is that one of her videos had a few seconds taken from it in a completely non-monetized video simply to reference the video's topic material, and she completely lost her shit about them 'stealing' from her and issued media takedowns, etc.
Its all been said before on previous threads a couple of months back, try and look them up
i know it sounds likely, but no. Although i found it weird how suzy was surprisingly alright with the whole d club thing. As in when i asked her about it after finding out she said it never made her question anything about him and there was never any tension between them after.
Every single fucking time I love to cum to this picture
ok so i've noticed the relationship between arin and dan has changed over the course of the show when they introduced him. they started as great friends, but over time arin just kept shitting all over dan. calling him awful horrible names and putting him down more and more. dan even spoke up and said to stop on the show sometimes. then there was one episode where he says something along the lines of, "SHUT UP I HATE YOU!!!" and it sounded like he really meant it. after that arin seemed to back off on the insults. does arin really treat people like shit all the time like that?
I always thought that part of Jon were incredibly hilarious.
It made for a great joke.
That's what people really should do with friends / lovers. Just share intimate secrets that don't really need to be secret even if they're weird.
If your friend got a new thing he had always wanted to buy or obtain or create for his whole life, and he gets it, and comes right over to show you, then you should be happy yourself - for them. If a thought "wouldn't it be horrible and ironic if I broke it or stole it" goes through your head as one of many random stream of consciousness thoughts, why not tell them if ya'll are bored and done admiring / using / talking about how great it is that they got that thing they wanted. Most friends would find something like that funny because they know that it's a joke, that a friend would never actually willfully hurt them.
Everyone has thoughts of What would happen if, or How would m or my friend react in a situation such as. Its how the brain learns or assumes things about other people, especially those like friends/family that you know well from time spent together. You can never know EVERYTHING about another person unless you can read Their mind - you can only know EVERYTHING about yourself. But our mind likes to simulate knowing more about others than we can factually know when we trust them and know them as well as we humanly can as true friends.
It's funny and interesting when your brain thinks something like: What if I smash it?
Okay, well I'm late getting back to this, but thanks. You're guys comments made me understand a little better what others may find appealing in it. I can at least say the very aspects that interest others are what what I find boring or uninteresting with the whole premise. Gave quite a few things a try though. Enjoy though.
Ive also noticed this
>Is the greatest sitcom of all time still friends?
He mentioned his smoking a few times but he's never talked to me about him stopping it, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he still does judging by half the shit he has to put up with with arin
Yeah there was a brief period where it was obvious that after a few months Dan had gotten a little to comfortable and I guess arin had to establish himself as being in full control of the show. He's just like that, especially when it comes down to making money. It's just that he doesn't want the same shit happening that what happened with Jon, where they both had equal rights for input and when jon just straight up disagreed he left. Now it's arin running the show and clearly Dan has no input
I've got a good guess of who you are based on these facts. Though it's good you're sharing your opinion and shit, I know it's never fun to hold back juicy information. Thanks man, oh and what'd you think of all of this gamergate shit? Jon's got a decent view and Arin's view is pretty much being held by his lord and master Suzy la Bitch.
yeah, he's even said, "a person might have enough of your crap and leave this show" i wouldn't blame him. have you seen the trauma center episodes? he does nothing but shit on poor danny
then why does Dan stay on the show at all? after about 3 or 4 months into the show their relationship started to degrade pretty quickly and it wasnt even being a work problem, more of it seems that either arin is acting out because of the shit suzy does, or that danny is being more liked
True. He tends to play up the enunciation, though, as if to protest-too-much at the notion that he still does, being a tongue-in-cheek way of saying "haha, yeah, I still smoke, but I can't admit it on camera".
he knows way too much to be just some guy. he's saying a lot of stuff that was in other threads too. i have no doubts this is a real person that knows them. i think it's markiplier but eh, i'm not questioning it.
well of course arin is in charge cuz danny doesn't know dick about video games. anything he does know it's always stupid 80s video games and nothing really iconic except for punch out and that's it. i don't think danny's a good fit and I REALLY WISH JON AND ARIN WOULD MAKE UP. i mean they're friendship on camera, or on mic, seemed great. i just wish they could talk things out
Interesting, if true. That's a pattern. He said that's basically how he stopped stealing, too. He did it once and got the worst "I am so disappointed in you" resigned stinkeye and it made him feel like such shit that he just didn't do it anymore.
That'd be cool.
THANKS FOR THREE HALLOWEEN EPISODES. YOU'RE A PRETTY COOL GUY. I'D BUY YOU AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE OF YOUR CHOICE IF WE EVER GOT TO HANG OUT.
Also, I know you love Banjo Kazooie, but please give some love to Jet Force Gemini. It's one of Rare's best titles and gets no love whatsoever in the face of BK, DK, and Perfect Dark.
Jon's a pretty cool guy online, doesn't lie about his views mang. His tweets are pretty dang funny too. I sure hope he is lurking this bread. Hell I hope he's posting in it. If we can learn more about what happened then it'd be best to confirm. I mean Jon wouldn't even have to hide anything, he could say what he wants then claim it's /b/ and "not to believe anything as it is likely to be fake as fuck"
I dont have a channel
I'm not famous, my name is possible somewhere on the polaris cast listing somewhere I think but I've never actually been on screen (to my knowledge)
that's nothing compared to some of the shit he gets off recording, shit gets real and it just makes everyone uncomfortable sometimes
Im implying that he's not open about it on recordings
Thats the thing, they have a list of possible candidates to replace anyone at a moments notice. Jon wasn't even supposed to leave the show, he was supposed to stay on and danny and ross would just have steam train. But once he did leave dan was slotted straight in, to the extent that within 24hr all links ot john had been severed (including the trailer including him on ross' channel + excluding the ode to john video) corporate as fuck. its as much polaris' fault as theirs for this matter but still... even thinking about it makes me mad
I'm finding myself to be more of a Dan fan than a Grump fan I think as the only eps I watch have him in it. I understand that not everyone likes him, but I guess he just plays towards my sense of humor plus there are dozens of other Let's Plays if I want intense discussion on video games.
I hope he's lurking, but he's probably busy having a qt3.14 girlfriend and people liking him.
I've noticed lately that Barry is showing up less, and not asked to do things during editing as much. Or maybe I just haven't noticed. Are things getting bad with him and anyone in the group too?
I suspected some shit was going on, but this confirms it. You've just about put to rest the bull shit I was feeling from Game Grumps nowadays. Fuck Arin. Danny and Ross shouldn't have to take this shit.
Was Jon and Arin's friendship really strong before the events? I guess what I mean is do you think that they'll ever want to see each other again or was their friendship never really important to them to begin with? I like to think years from now they'll just get over it and at least hang out again.
Remember there was that episode where Jon fanboyed out over Lemon and Bill? He was all "not to be on your nuts but sometimes I remember that you're egoraptor and I get excited"
Its not ALL like that, for the majority of the time they're ok with eachother, at the end of the day they're pretty much best buddies now. But i do know for a fact dan and ross recently have had doubts about their future on their channel, whether or not theyll act on it though, i honestly cant say
i actually met him several times, seems like a nice guy but yeah his content reeks as much as pdp
if jon is lurking he will honest to god know who i am straight away
no idea, but im sure its neither of those
i know before jon left there was talks of one of the continue guys or possible some animators from NG arin knew, but i honestly cant recall any more off the top of my head
yes sorry, and no not really, its more of just an awkward joking thing that everyone takes seriously because of his tone. he almost always apologises. hes the type of guy whod make frequent jokes at the expense of another person, his whole sense of humour revolves around making fun of people. Ive heard him tell ross in a serious tone that he looks mentally retarded or some shit and then try and laugh it off after. like i said, him and suzy are very hit or miss, perfect for eachother
Nothing that im aware of
Like I said before, i'm not involved in the show, the channel uploads are completely controlled on their end.
they pick on him so much on the show and its the exact same thing on the outside, running jokes that got old fast were constantly being pulled by arin and suzy and the occasional input from dan, i think, made him feel isolated on the show off recording. I dont know if its so much the case any more, the last couple of months before christmas spanning to early 2014 it got real bad in my opinion.
It bothers me that we know so fucking little about who Ross actually is.
Like, we got a joke that he's annoying and subversive, and then everything since then has been an in-character slapstick about LOL WOW ROSS REALLY?
Like... I have a feeling I 'get' the Grumps, for the most part. Jon and Arin are self-explanatory, Dan opened up with his stories about depression, and even Barry's let things slip here and there.
But Ross is just forced to be in-character 24/7. It's gotta burn him a little that he's a set piece.
I know he's annoying. But his funny in his own way. Especially that 100 bones on a kiddy game. I like a guy who can successfully fuck with another person mentally. Especially with all the so called "drama" within the channel.
I can't believe anyone is believing this bull shit. It's been going on for years.It's getting fuckin' old.
just stop with this fucking conspiracy theories that have no solid proof, and I fucking love it when it's some Faggot saying "I know them both and close to them BBBBUUUTTTTT...." Blah blah Bull Shit. And it's always different too.
Fuck Op and Fuck these damn threads
It's okay to be curious but come on this is getting fuckin' sad
I still feel like it's more that fans didn't originally come for Arin, they came for Jon. I've stuck just for Danny since I was a NSP fan long before GG.
I lost all my respect for Arin when he clearly could not play a fucking Zelda game, ala Windwaker which is baby's first fucking Zelda. Then he has the audacity to do a Sequelitis about it.
Even back on NG he was a shithead esp when it came to collabs or people doing videos in the vein of game parodies.
They were best buddies at the start, wasnt till about 6 months in that shit started to go south. obviously jon wasnt as big as arin and so its a given that jon was constantly fanboying over him but they settled after a while. after the split thought there's minimal contact between the two and i honestly dont see them being friends for the foreseeable future. maybe when the whole "grumps" thing ends and its all behind them they can focus their friendship on what it orignally was based on (their mutual love for video games)
like i said before shits gonna be public domain sooner or later, when it is that's the only proof you'll have of my legitimacy. untill then im sorry, its take it or leave it
If Jon's lurking, he's probably saying to himself "Goddamn, I really dodged a bullet."
Also, Jon, if you're out there, SHOW US YOUR BUTT
I'll tell you the truth, I stopped watching Arin after Jon left. I don't watch NSP or anything related. I despise GG and all things related. The original GG was fresh and nice ya know? But now it's just strung out stressful bullshit.
I came for Arin, knowing him from his animations, and then stayed for Jon. When they split, I stayed with Jon and kinda let Arin whistle in the wind.
I still keep up with Starbomb, because they put out some decent stuff, but again it's not because of Arin's contribution. That show is all Danny.
>Nice Try Jontron
I fuckin' wish I was that god damn fat beautiful bastard
Honestly, the only thing I like about grumps is Danny. He seems like a genuinely good guy. Is he as kind in reality as he seems on cam?
OP, just how much money and corporate shit is involved with Game Grumps? Are these guys all getting fucking loaded, particularly Arin, now that JonTron's gone? Is JonTron doing alright post-GG?
Arin supplies for two in fucking California.
He is 'successful' by any possible measure. I remember one episode even as far back as JonGrumps where they were talking about Mimi making a mess while they were meeting with a financial adviser to talk about what stocks they wanted to invest in.
They are doing well enough to live in California and consult financial advisers on stock options.
They are wealthy by 99% of the world's standards.
Fuck it you got me!
Glad to hear yah read me.
I'm not ashamed of enjoying it.
I realize that the format lends to them getting a whole lot of Youtube money by cranking out 1-3 popular ~10minute video a day for minimal effort outside of playing games and talking with mics on for that long and having their team edit it for them (though I always found Barry, their editor, one of the most hilarious among them -- even though he didn't even talk or show himself for the first 2 years (he only edited answers in a yellow font on screen if they asked him questions for him to answer as he edited at a later time).
But I really enjoy the honest nature of the conversations, its akin to having 2 or 3 friends you can listen to when you have some extra alone time of some increments of 10 minutes, but are too tired to just play vidya yourself, or to do something else more engaging and involved.
And I find them, their stories, and usually their video gameplay awesome (for some game series I multitask for the audio like I said - I still enjoy the format they use, it works for me).
I also find the rare live action recordings great on the rare occasion that they put those on screen - I like all of them and their humor and stories, they really remind me of my best childhood friends and much vidya / joking history.
I like someone like Ashens more on Youtube and watch their videos more intently and with more interest.
But I still have watched all of GG and like having episode[s] daily.
Fuckin' Christ you people are jackasses
Hey you! Please answer my question!
I said they were on the list as possible candidates, I didnt say they said they were on board.
please tell me youre not serious. the album was complete garbage, made a fuckton of money though :/
first part is bullshit as far as i know, but as for the feud it's really nothing specific, just (as i said before) arin and suzy talking shit about jon behind his back, him catching wind of this would vent out to his girlfriend and other friends almost straight after sessions and nicole would obviously take his side
I know for a fact money is 99% of the motivation for the channel. I dont know the exact figures, but id imagine with the guaranteed viewercount and sponsor tie ins with polaris id be confident in saying theyd be earning a hefty 60+K a month from videos alone. but yeah they receive the special treatment with regards to prioritising shows' budgets/ making sure cast members are happy etc.
sOMEONE fUCKIN' GOTT IT!
No need, and fuck it you don't got to say sorry for any fucker on here
Was a generic mash-up of video game parodying songs serving no purpose to enrich the culture or art in any way shape or form. They saw an opportunity to make a wad of cash, they took it and it paid off big time!
if he was here he'd be lurking, he wouldn't post. And if he did he wouldn't ever risk even getting close to being spotted
You know how fucking hard it is to be SARCASTIC on this shit hole?
I feel like Arin's got the double-whammy of a corporation and a crazy girlfriend breathing down his fucking neck. It certainly doesn't excuse him being an asshole all the time, but I feel like he's under more stress than he deserves.
I know I've painted a bad picture of him for you all but you realise im concentrating on these small manifestations of some traits he has in controlled circumstances. I honestly just think its the system getting the better of him and we all know what his true personality is like, not tomention its got to suzy's head and ive already said what influence she has on him (hence the whole table flip idea)
And you can't fucking tell if someone is just fucking around with cunts who wont stop with this shit?
>Was a generic mash-up of video game parodying songs serving no purpose to enrich the culture or art in any way shape or form.
I'm sorry, I thought this conversation was about GameGrumps and the people in it. Are you sure you're in the right thread? If you're looking for something deep and moving, you're looking in the wrong place.
I don't need an excuse or justification to enjoy listening to Danny sing stupid jokes anyways.
I am a pussy about it because I was joking around with some random fuck, right?
The thing is, all of us that are starting to dislike Arin have come to that conclusion by just seeing what Arin does and what we interpret from other people doing threads like this. Even if its obvious they are not true it still gets us thinking. Don't know where im going with this but don't feel like your creating a hate group. Most of us have known Arin (atleast his online portion albeit) for years now.