Say, you're dating this wonderful girl/guy. Y'all go to a party, and you gotta leave before it's over. You say bye to your bf/gf, and drive off.
S/he was drunk at the party and kissed a member of the opposite sex due to a dare, but realized how bad of an idea this was, and pulls away immediately.
S/he respects you immensely, so s/he tells you. S/he has been feeling too fucking guilty, to the point of becoming physically ill due to guilt. They're begging for forgiveness, and want you to stay with them.
What do you do?
>She respects you immensely
Stopped reading there. Utter bullshit. It's one thing to have fantasies, it's another to act on them. If you're in a relationship where bounds such as cheating are not meant to be crossed (unless you're a cuck faggot), respect that, be mature about it and know that you've committed yourself to a relationship! There's obviously no goddamn respect if something like that was done. So fuck off and either dump this scum or live the life of a faggot cuck.
I'm the one that fucked up. I'm putting the situation from her POV. Had about 10 shots in me, and I fucked up, but I respect her a fuckton. She is actually sick right now, and we can't have sex, so she told me I could go have sex with other women but I denied the offer. I asked to stay exclusive but then I fucked up. I have never done such a thing, and I'm considering never drinking again.
She respected you enough to tell you
She was drunk
It was a dare
It was a kiss (probably a peck)
She realized it was wrong and that she fucked up
She seems like a really good girl that put herself in a stupid situation and did something stupid. If you leave her for this then you are a fucking retard bro. Now, you need to talk to her about how stupid it is to put herself in a situation where she could potentially do something like this. I'm not saying that she can't go have fun but as a person in a committed relationship you have to look around and think "could I potentially make a bad decision here" if the answer is yes then remove yourself from said situation.
If you get made and leave her then you're a faggot. Give her a second chance but have an honest talk about it.
What do you think she's gonna do? She's gonna be made and prob cry and prob yell when she finds out and even tho it was something that small, it's gonna stick with her for a little while
But if you two really do respect and care about each other, then she'll understand that you feel terrible and you'll understand that she might get stuck on what you did for a little bit. If you guys can cool down after the initial shit and talk person-to-person, then you're fine. If not, you prob weren't gonna work out anyways
I don't know. She's a fucking tough lady and told me I could hook up with others since she's sick, under the condition that I didn't tell her so I didn't hurt her, but I didn't wanna put her through that. I'm a moralfag, and I've never done this before. I really don't know what she will do, I just don't want her to dump my ass.
Also, if she straight up said she didn't want to know, then don't tell her. You're not a moralfag if you can't respect other people's emotions because they don't agree with yours
Infectious disease that prevents us from having sex, not STD tho
When she said that, I said I wanted to be exclusive and do nothing with anyone else. I don't know if my words canceled the agreement she was proposing, that's why I'm assuming the "don't tell me" part is invalid in this case
The thing is, I did mean that. I have always been a moralfag, never done such a thing. I actually am physically ill due to the guilt, currently bedridden. I have a strong migraine, nausea, can't keep anything down and diarrhea. I have never felt worse about anything in my life. I have never drank as much as I did that night, and I fucked up immensely.
he/she is testing there boundaries.
Put a leash on it or it will catch and STD and give it to you
mfw speaking out of experience
Just have some of the people who were at the party collaborate your story.
Assuming it was just a kiss like you said, having people back up your story will definitely help your case.
if pic related.
absolutely nothing-except a reputation from being a dickhole
>wwaaah, you owe me-you kinda kissed someone drunk at a party on a dare... you owe me.....
If that's the kind of person you are, then any gf of yours would be better without you
don't involve anyone else. even if it happened in front of people, its a private, couples conversation. if she decides to ask around, that's good for her, but don't tell her your story followed by "and I got witnesses!" That's shady as hell
If a girl? Screw them. Literally and figuratively. Bang then immediatelt break up. Maybe record it. Set a precedent for others on what happens. If its a dude high five them and realise its what evolutions groomed them for.
Then sit down and explain its your evolutionarily groomed biological imperative. Expect a high five and if none is delivered high five her face. Let it be known what is expected of her.
don't you know about the half truth rationalization?
girls do bad shit.
need to confess.
can't risk telling the whole truth.
tell part of the truth.
pretend that if you can forgive that, you'd probably forgive the whole truth.
never tell you the whole truth.
seriously that shit happens all the time and it's probably happening right now.
unless you saw that it was just a kiss, she probably touched his dick/got fingered minimum. maximum she fucked him.
alright, well tell her the whole truth.
if you change anything about the story and it somehow gets back to her, she's going to assume you had sex. don't act more guilty than you have to. you fucked up and you're an idiot, but if you play the guilty card too hard for just a kiss, she's gonna think you got your dick wet.
why does it matter if OP is a guy or a girl? Either way, he fucked up, but either way, it's not the end of the world
some people fuck up on occasion. that doesn't mean that they're a bad person. they're a bad person if they fuck up more often than they dont
I won't change shit. I'm gonna try to get all the facts straight before I tell her the whole thing
Never fucked up like this, I really don't get why people cheat. This feeling is horrible
I had a similar experience with my gf she did the same thing kissed another female. At first I was pissed off about it but then again it was another female. If it had been a guy it would've been a different story.
I've cheated before. I made the mistake because I wasn't feeling what we had anymore--I was just pretending, and someone drunkenly kissed me at a party and that when I realized that things weren't the same and I had to end it
I don't know if that's how you feel or not, but I thought a personal story might help more than plain advice
Men can fuck more then 16 times. Ejaculation however can only be achieved a maximum of 16 times a day. Theres a definite orgasm to so read up before you spout shit. Also the female orgasm ratio seems designed to engrain love onto one partner so they stay a stay-at-home babymaker like evolution designed. While men can go out and bang and were expected to bang as many women as possible for the sake of ensuring genes. Simple enough once you think about it and the reason why a stay-at-home mom family lasts longer love wise and more stable in general. Even the kids say home feels better compared to those that have moms who go out and work. We have roles we were made to fit and going against them leads to unhappiness.
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Shits iffy right now, but I definitely like her. I think it was more about the dare and hormones than just emptiness about the relationship.
Also, for the ones that are ITT, read the part about where she told me I could hook up with others, and that I should just not tell her. Is it still valid in this case or not? Should I tell her?
>like evolution designed.
So when will evolution stop being a close-minded republican and see that women can work just like men given the right circumstances
I never said that men didn't have orgasms--just that women can have them back to back to back to back, without having to worry about getting it up again. I hope your sex life is better than your reading comprehension, because you clearly misunderstood my post and I'm pretty sure you misunderstood this "study"
And if we want to talk about the "ideal" outcome for genetics and raising children, it's that a couple should be 100% committed to each other so the children have a stable life, but they should secretly *both* mix up their DNA a bit with other people. The key to success in a species is their ability to have diverse genes, because in the event of a catastrophe they'd be more likely to survive it
Be fine with it? It was just a kiss with a random person, and he was drunk.
Provided he's coming home to my ass every night I don't care who he kisses (though I'd still be a bit cautious)
Forgive and fuck
We are still together. We just talked about what happened that night and if they did anything else that I don't know about. I still think it's cheating but like I said it was with another female so I'm over it..
darn, men having to do all that heavy labor... I'm sure women want to be garbage me and work on an oil rig and lift heavy boxes. oh, you're right, you're soooo strong mr. man--that's why you should do all that work
now, brains on the other hand, has nothing to do with if you can pick something up or not
The key is to survival is having working genes and higher population then mortality. If a dad can have 16 babies with 16 women that means hes of more value evolutionarily then the women who can only have one. Think of it this way. Theres 17 people. 1 can help make 16 more while 16 can only contribute 1 more and while contributing they are frailer then the one who can contribute 16. Now who's death or success would have more impact on the community?
Wouldn't give a fuck.
Happenened to me once and all I did was refuse to kiss her for a week or so. That was really only to watch her squirm.
She said it made her feel like a hooker when I wouldn't kiss her during sex.
It proves that men are better physically and mentally while women get shit jobs that let then sit on there asses half the time. Same reason why secretaries are almost all women.
Talk about it, and if what you say is true forgive her.
That just a drunken kiss for fuck sake. A friend of mine kisses his mom and his dad on the mouth (ok it's weird but you get the point)
if evolution is real(which its not refer to the holy bible)
Then if women took up these labor jobs for 100s of years then evolution would kick in and make them better at them right?
Probably even better than most men
since evolution is a thing
That one man isn't so valuable if he has or is a carrier of a genetic disorder, which men are more likely to have because they don't have two X-chromosomes. That means that if there is a problem with a man's X-chromosome, there is not back up; he's going to have that disease. And it also means that if there is something wrong with his Y-chromosome, that if he has a son, then his son *will* have to handle the same genetic troubles as his dad. You're oversimplified math problem isn't how it works. It's not just about numbers that simple
But hey, let's think about your example. That man has sex with all of them, sure they have kids. But let's think about the woman who had sex with all the men. Sperm can live inside the vagina, active, for about 4 days. If she had sex with them all within that time, the chances for one sperm to win out over the other would be fairly equal. So which sperm gets it? The strongest one.
So what's better 17 average-healthy babies who or 1 amazingly-healthy one? Who's line do you think is going to go on for longer?
I've only been on the opposite end of that situation though. I would never feel guilty or squeal on myself lol.
Plus, even drunk me wouldn't let another girl get close enough to kiss me if I'm with one I actually like. Unless she was real sneaky about it, it wasn't just the alcohols fault, anon.
I can't tell you believe her the way you talk like you were there or knows how she feels
She kissed another dude
I wouldn't stay
But you will
Betas talk a certain way
You just got the bus story brag
She probably liked it
>in a hottub
>with a gay dude and a girl you have a crush on
>still blaming alcohol
That changes everything.
I would break up with you in a heartbeat anon. And the kiss would have very little to do with my decision.
Physically, sure. In general that's true. That's why women were stuck doing what men wanted for so long. We had a lot less value for people who were different from us
That simple fact started women down a bad road for a long time, but now people have rights, and most people agree you can't force another person to do something or to act a certain way, so slowly, very slowly women are creeping into "men's" fields. It's become less controversial; it's become accepted and respected
You notice around the same time that women got suffrage was about the same time as they lobbied for Prohibition? Women weren't arguing against drinking--they were arguing against it being acceptable for their husbands to get drunk and hit them
And that's when the tides began to turn for women
So do women have equal opportunity today? In almost every sense, yes.
Are there equal results? Not in a lot of places, no. Because you can't force a social change over night. You can't campaign it down someone's throat or think affirmative action is going to make anyone work harder. Did you know that there are more women in law school than men now? That women are increasing their stake in traditionally male fields because they want to? Or that the pay gap is a huge myth. For the same exact work, women and men make the same amount of money, except for the fact that women now slighty edge men out as far as salary goes--just not enough to be statistically significant
That's exactly how the Black Plague worked, right? When 2/3 of Europe was wiped out, it was really good to be of average health
In the event of a catastrophe, it pays to have genetic diversity, plain and simple. Which is why both men and women enjoy sex and crave it, because our bodies want us to make beautiful, varied babies that can survive the next thing we get thrown at us
I dunno if you told her or not I'm too lazy to read the whole thread, but definitely don't tell her if you haven't told her already. You were drunk you fucked up big deal move on with your life keep it a secret and have a good relationship... and don't do it again.
I kind of agree with this asshole over here, actually. Telling is just gonna bring up a bunch of insecurities and issues that are there for what? A half kiss? Assuming youre telling the truth. Why kill yourselves over that?
>due to a dare
Automatically saves her. If this is true then just use this experience to get anal (if you haven't already). If she's one of those chicks that will bang anyone while drunk though then get a leash on her at parties in the future
Wouldn't it be better if I told her myself?
And chances of her finding out are so slim, she goes to another school, only three more people know and unless someone rats me out there is no way she'll find out
So then we can get 5 guys and 80 women. The point is women are ment through evolution to be like leeches and attach to one man for at least the duration of pregnancy and building a relationship ahead of time only reinforces this. Men on the other hand don't need and actually are hindered by relationships when it comes to spreading genes and ensuring offspring. Again lose 1 man and shit gets worse lose one women and theres 79 left.
Well, I wrote the story on the OP from her POV, I'm the one who drunkenly kissed someone else. Currently bedridden and feeling like shit, I fucked up. I'm a moralfag, I've never done this before.
I hope that you don't breed too much. Because you are so incredibly dense. Your addition and subtraction doesn't add up to the whole story. It's much, much more complicated than that. Way worse than not understanding how genetics work on a very diluted level, is not understanding that you're wrong
>> Overburned with guilt from a kiss
>> Sounds like she did more than just kiss bro
Make her send you nudes to prove her loyalty to you then cast her away and fap to her pictures any time you feel beta enough to call her back.
Again its fine if she can't realise you weren't in a right state of mind and you didn't actually do anything sexual then theres some serious trust issues there that you should address.
I would never kiss someone who wasn't my bf/gf, no matter how trashed I was at some stupid party.
in fact, I wouldn't stay ALONE at some bullshit party if my bf/gf had to go. I'd go too. because that's just how that shit fucking works.
move on and find someone who isn't looking for an excuse to cheat on you. this was their test and you failed.