Switching from console to PC and new to the whole thing, researched a bit but want to check with you fags before I buy.. What does /b/ think? Change anything?
(Will find a HDD around my place)
Intel seemed a fair bit more expensive compared to the AMD equivalent, is it truly that much worse?
Thanks, and so good! Wish we had the same deals as the US though..
this is a budget build. you're spending too much on RAM for a budget build, thats for god damn sure.
you want to pay real attention to the case you buy, if you fuck up there you're gonna be pissed. i would bust out the tape measure for reference, check the dimensions on everything, just make sure all that shit can fit in the case.
like you may not be able to get aftermarket cooling if the case is too small.
also, cases these days keep the ambient temp inside so low now, you could go with stock cooling for the CPU if you got a good case.
A friend of mine got AMD everything cause it was cheap and its a giiiiaannt piece of shit. I save up 2k and got intel/nvidia and got good clocks and no problems. I got it two years ago and it is still fast and fuck up free.
Yeah, the fuckin oz tax vendors put on us is ridiculous
Intel is going to be a better choice but AMD isn't so bad. I mean you are paying so much less for more cores when going with the fx-6300 which games are going to start needing. I think its a decent build
Look at benchmarks. Per core most i3's beat the highest end AMD'S.
I would highly recommend spending all you can on a good motherboard, processor, and a case. Those 3 things are a huge bitch to upgrade late.
Plus if you don't focus on those 3 when you go to upgrade your GPU you'll need a new motherboard and new CPU to fit the new MoBo and of course your going to need different RAM.
Trust me. Splurge on MoBo and processor. And the case if you care.
That was the cheapest 8Gb Ram with the exception of a single channel for $10 cheaper, which really isn't too big of a deal for me.
Thanks for the case advice though
The cheapest intel chip I would go for is the i5 4460, which is about $100 more and you get less cores anyway.
Is it just a 'get what you pay for' sort of thing or can AMD's hold their own pretty well?
These prices are super high, i'm guessing you are not in america. Its honestly all fine, except I would replace the FX6300 with a G3258. And with the money you save from getting the G3258, get the GTX960 instead of the 270x. This will get you a much better rig and keep you at the same price point. I build custom rigs for a company that does large scale graphic design, just trust me on this.
I figured the R9 270x would perform better than the gtx750ti, so if I was to go intel, could I still use the 270x or do they still work well interchangeably?
Probably a really stupid question..
Op where are you? in US this build would be like 500 maybe a little more. If you are in the US, you are going through a super bad website because those prices are incredibly high.
Ignor cancer like this who probably don't even have an Intel build. AMD is a great budget build I had a couple a few years ago, did fine.
Anyways just a few things, don't pay extra for "gaming ram" as it's all the same, make sure grab a modular psu as it will help you in building it, check out the tried and true Corsair hx650, and a seagate 1tb barracuda is plenty storage for you, and cheap.
I'm in Australia, so everything down here is heaps more expensive! It's actually pretty bullshit how much extra they add..
If I was to take this option, wouldn't I go with the Radeon option for Mantle? The main game I'll probably be playing is Battlefield anyway
For gaming? Nope.
MB - W/o OC any low budget mobo will do.
Case - Seriously? I've seen people game on PC's w/o a case(the mobo was lifted on matchboxe's, funny).
CPU - It's always good to have a nice one. I've got a 4690k for like 50$ more(in a shitty country) and its good.
Most of your pesos should go into the GPU->CPU->PSU then everyting else. Thats the gaming way ofc.
Mantle adds virtually no frame rate. Plus are you aware of the current "scandal" where all mantle does is actually discretely lower graphics settings to obtain the higher FPS? Definitely don't let mantle determine your rig, you will definitely regret that. The 960 is more powerful enough over the 270x that mantle wont make a difference.
I'm building me a new home server/work machine OP.
4x8GB Kingston Hyperx DDR3
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD
2x Seagate SSHD 2TB drives
Gigabyte GTX980 4GB windforce 3x
Judging by userbenchmark... your build is ok.
Honestly anyone that is harping about Intel is a fanboy, plain and simple. Yes, Intel out performs AMD, not many people will argue that, but the differences in performance aren't great enough to justify a few hundred dollars more for an Intel CPU. You're probably, like most other people here, going to use the computer for gaming mostly. AMD makes very good chips for what they're worth, that extra money you save could get you better RAM or a GPU, which is what you're probably going to need more of for high quality gaming. Plus, AMD motherboards are usually compatible with other chipsets that AMD uses, or is going to use, unlike intel where you need a new motherboard for every generation of CPU. Unless you really need that extra CPU speed in a professional setting, there is no reason not to get AMD. Of course, if you just have to have the top of the line computer, money isn't an option, I'm living off a trust fund, then go for it.
Intel over amd is perspective,
120GB is more than enough for an OS drive,
he will never use 16GB of ram,
You can assume this guy will ever use disk drive,
There is nothing wrong with on board audio,
270x required atleast 500W PSU
Don't post in these threads..
G.Skill is overpriced stuff and they are not international which says quiet alot, corsair, crusial and kingston have great value, (corsair is my personal favorite)
Go for intel processor they perform much better and only cost a little more,
overall they win in value. i5 is well enough you will regret if you buy i3, and i7 is overpriced for that performance.
Go for nvidia instead of asus graphic card, you are building a gamer pc not
a video editing pc, over 60% of gamers use nvidia for several reasons.
GTX 960 is in the same price range and perform 50% better, Gigabyte and EVGA have great coolers for their cards.
For motherboard use something from a company that knows more about them like: Asus, Gigabyte or MSI. remember to use intel based with 1150 socket
Don't listen to the Intel fags op. They just like to pretend they know about computers. I'd suggest a different card though. Get a 280x or a 970 for an extra 50$
Intel 4790K 4-core 4.0GHz vs AMD FX-9370 8-core 4.4GHz
single core speed = Intel, 55% faster
dual core speed = Intel, 55% faster
multi-core speed = Intel, 23% faster
All OC core speeds = Intel, 51%, 53%, & 20% faster
Cite it and I'll believe it. Go ahead and do some benchmarks against the newest i5 quad core and an AMD Phenom quad core (an 8 year old CPU). Yes it does out perform, a small amount, but do you really want to pay $600-700 dollars more for a change that's hardly noticeable?
and another... but this is the Intel 4790k 4.0GHz vs AMD's FX-9590 4.7GHz
again, winner, Intel. Yes, barely here... but its a 4.0 4-core vs 4.7 8-core & still wins.
No, go ahead and check the benchmarks, G3258 beats FX6300 in virtually everything, especially gaming. So yes it is 2 cores, but they are some serious fucking cores. Or you could obviously just to the 4670K or 4690K but thats a descent jump in price.
CPU is doing alright so far but the GPU is dying. One fan doesn't work ast all and its reaching 90c with underfoot and under clocking so GPU is first priority.
CPU, motherboard and ram will come sometime later this year slo I'm contemplating getting something decent for the future.
I'm worried about PSU the most in case I go down the AMD road.
Look bro, you get what you pay for. Intel destroys AMD in ANY benchmark at a lower temp. Nvidia has better build quality, driver support and has professional feeling I can't put my finger on.
For the love of god don't use AMD... I made the same mistake when I was getting into PC's a couple of years ago and it was horrible, I'll never use AMD again.
My dad had an ATi card years ago but they went to shit when they got bought by AMD
>tfw fan started making noises 9 months after buying
>that one fan died 3 months after that
>spent almost 2 years gaming
>no blue screen or crashes
No fucks given
Listen OP, I don't have a personal gripe with AMD, I don't give a fuck. Having said that; don't buy a 270x, get a GTX 960 instead, it's just better.
Yeah, AMD stuff runs hotter and is less powerful than Intel, their GPU are more back and forth with Nvidia but with nvidia's being cooler, quieter and use less power.
Like >>602980952 said, you get what you pay for, just be prepared for the shitstorm that comes from owning AMD gear
In gaming? Nope, most games use 4 core's or more. The older one's which don't will still run fine on the AMD cpu since its not that slow as you imagine.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a AMD fanboy, using a i5 in my rig atm since that's what suits my needs. The thing is, AMD cpu's are not as power efficient etc. But despite that their are good for their price compared to Intel's cpu's at the same price. Let's give credit where credit is due.
Yes true. But maybe thats just me, I hate rigs where the GPU is potentially held back by the CPU. Which can certainly happen on some heavy games and application on a i5 2400 and gtx970 rig.
Holy fuck... god bless america. My rig would be 4000$ if I lived where you do. Not to mention my 1000$ monitor.
It was money well fucking spent considering it wasn't high end when I bought it.
Hence why I'm hoping I can get another card in the £200 range that will last me 2+ years.
Don't give a fuck about 1440p or AA but want to enjoy future games at relatively high settings so I'm thinking 280x or 970 but the 3.5gb ram bullshit ois putting me off out of principle.
True dat, but since most game these days are a fucking console port, and PS4 has a 8core. Maybe it'll be better... Then again, optimalization during the port tends to get fucked up.
Implying processing speed is measured in Hz. I ran my FX-4170 at 4.2GHz and it doesn't have jack shit on my i5-4670k at 4GHz. I'd take a Phenom II over the crap AMD makes these days.
They did a series of tests (I think NCIX), and there is only like 4 games that exist when maxed out in 4K use more than 3.5Gb. I use a 980 and @ 1440p and never have used more than like 2.6GB and I max my games out. ?Unless you find a crazy good deal on a 280X, I would get the 970.
I know, hence why I said I wouldn't buy it out of principle instead of performance issues. I'm well aware I'm not going to hit that 3.5gb in the near future but it was still a dick move and if it weren't for that I'd have a 970 by now.
>dedicated sound cards are mostly overhyped shit
unless you want (or need) free routing and other tweaking stuff, like compressors/expanders for separate channels.
also get a multi-rail PSU when going above 600W.
I have that RAM... Don't do it OP I regret purchasing it, there are other stuff out there for as little as $10 -20 more not worth the effort with the 2x4gb cards better off buying 4 2gb cards
>remember to use intel based with 1150 socket
I've made that mistake for a client that changed their mind a dozen times within an hour and was looking over my shoulder. This was after I said give me specs/ ideas for what you will be using the rig for ie video editing/ gaming/ internet explorer, they came up with nothing after 2 weeks and I had to fix the mistake because I missed it and lost any profit I would have made.
>inb4 it was your fault
>I know it was my fault
I didn't say they are, i fucking know they are shit. But maybe it will get better? Someday, maybe..
Talking about shitty ports. Witcher 3 has been gimped so fucking much. Check they january gameplay and compare it to the gryphon(?) hunt one.
It is fucked up that they did that, with that said, the 970 is still totally amazing for the price. Even if the 970 was a 3GB card, it would still be totally an amazing card for ~320$.
Floating Point Operations Per Second. It's a much more accurate way of telling how much performance your processor is capable of. Hz doesn't tell you shit in terms of performance.
OP back, taking what everyone has said onboard, this is what I've come up with. A bit more than what I really wanted to spend, especially when adding OS.. but how is this?
BTW I'm in AUSTRALIA, I understand that these parts are more expensive
I bet they are. If they drop the price I might consider it again depending on how I feel. I'm glad I didn't buy it in a rush, I would have been mad as fuck finding out about nthe 3.5gb bullshit in hindsight.
>i-its not a shitty design
>i-its a well thought out feature
>now g-give me your s-shekels
That half arsed apology fucked me off even more.
I run a 270x. Shit's dope and affordable, don't need to fork out that much cash for a gpu.
Runs pretty much most i can throw at it at 1080, maxed settings, with a solid 60fps.
>skimping out on the psu
git gud and get at least gold. you fuck up your psu, say gg to your whole rig
You should be right, though.... Building a 'decent' gaming rig here in Aus is not a cheap endeavor really you should be looking to spend somewhere in the range of $1500 here because we get buttfucked on the tax.
The money you save with bronze is less than you lose while using your computer. As long as you dont have to pay for electricity, stick with bronze...after that get gold or platin..thank me later
finishing on the end of that, you're looking at having to make replacements quickly because you skimp on the price now, save up a bit more then make the move from console to PC. It's not worth the hassle 6 months from now to replace a possibly busted PSU and a cooked CPU because you tried to stretch your cash too thin.
Powersupply is bad (you dont want a surge killing your entire computer). 270x at that price is not really worth it (you're getting a 7950 or 660ti pretty much). Also, buying AMD processors is not something that people do anymore.
efficiency's are measured at optimal load
I doubt anyone here even knows the effiency graph of his powersupply or even thinks about loading it to optimal level
bronze is fine faggot
I've built over 1000 rigs, its my job, bronze is fine, never had one fail, thank me later.
Its not about bronze silver ect its about getting a good PSU aerocool is not known for quality or even something worth spending money on if there are better units for cheaper
Zippy Emacs won't hit bronze on even 80+ for shit but they are some of the best units you can ever buy
Also similar to a raidmax 650 that will do bronze but fails in stability and line filtering
Doesn't matter what efficiency PSU you get just get one that performs well overall look on sites like jonnyguru or techpowerup for PSU reviews and realhardtech who keep a database of PSU reviews
>get a gainward phantom a couple of years ago
>live in australia, right in the middle so ambient temps are about 50 fucking degrees
>overclock anyway fuck the police
>mfw the card temps routinely hover around 90 degrees all day erry day
>mfw card still works just fine
But he is getting a CX750. And corsair is rebranded seasonic, which are fantastic PSU's. And I do use jguru, my V1000 is highest rated PSU on there. It was at time of purchase anyway, things may have changed.
CX range is actually channel well as tech not seasonic
They skimp on a few things with the CX range its passable but you paying for the corsair name more then anything that's why they only give a 3 year warranty and not their standard 5 or 7 years on their better units
The rosewill capstone 750 is infinitely better and around the same price
Funny you should say that. I've had both brands and IMO AMD died when the FX series came along. They're all about dumping more wattage into chips for higher clocks with minimal gains. Phenom II is still better than many new AMD chips.
what do you /b/ros think about this comp im about to buy?
im doing lots of photoshop with highres images
playing games like csgo, wow and others
rendering videos at times