Which martial art does /b/ do? Faggots who need a gun to protect themselves and their family need not apply :^)
The art of fighting with out fighting but when I do hit I don't have to because it hits all by itself.
Kung fu blocks, Karate blows and footwork
Wrestled in High School, so Grecoroman wrestling. (It's actually a realy good ground game, but you run out of energy REALLY fast.
But, just learn the iron hand and shirt, doesn't matter what you do then, blows glance you and yours crush the enemy.
(my shatter pattern under the first two tiles)
12 years of martial arts here.
I started with judo when I was just a kid, but quickly moved on from that to muay thai and jiu jitsu. For the last five years I've trained at a primarily MMA gym.
Because people with real lives, old people and the disabled don't deserve protection. Only men with 12% body fat and enough free time to study a martial art and insurance good enough to cover any injuries incurred.
Yeah, you sound like a 15 year old know nothing pussy faggot.
Btw, boxing and wing chun, but my most effective art is tactical shooting because I'm not a pussy bitch that would limit my families protection so I can feel more "manly". Grow up douchebag.
Is that a floor tile? Like ceramic? What are you demonstrating? I've dropped floor tiles and seen them shatter just like in your pic. Is this a proof of technique or something?
I never learned what one would call proper Wing Chun, all I took from it was it's concept of training that allows you to commit movements to muscle memory and use it to incorporate whatever I learn, and yeah I have seen some people use them together pretty impressively. It was in a martial arts documentary, a boxer was taught wing chun for a tournament but he kept mixing it with boxing by accident due to instinct and it was pretty efficient.
seems like you don't even know the first and most important rule of any martial art. Never, under any circumstances underestimate your opponent, or just assume that you can win. Because that's how motherfuckers get rekt.
Ip Man Wing Chun
Most martial arts are better than none. It mostly depends on your teacher and how you practice applications and sparring.
No martial art is useful if you're just punching fucking wall bags.
Again. Kenpo will succeed while you all fight mindfuck battles.
I admit it was brushed aside, but if we were to act with seconds on the clock and just reactions, we'd win. We are too low-key and too reflexively strong for all your bitching. Grow up.
running the fuck away was the very first thing I was taught. I can defend myself just fine, but running away if possible or practical is always the best option with the best outcome.
I have practiced mixed martial arts for the last couple years.. Never have kicked the shit out of anyone yet though. I should.. Maybe it will release some stress. But I'm afraid that I will go fucking awall and severely hurt them and end up in jail.
>faggots spending years learning complicated bullshit martial arts.
I mastered this in like 2 minutes. I just do this from the start of the round until the end and 9 times out of 10 my girlfriend gets fucking pissed off and quits.
But that's an instructor issue, not an issue with the system itself.
I've met so many people who knock styles because they didn't spar enough. That's entirely up to the teacher.
Kenpo, Shotokan, and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu. Krav Maga isn't even a martial art, it's a military training program more focused on making sure IDF asshole soldiers complete an objective even if both arms have been blown off. And their gun disarming techniques have too many movements. Ridiculousness.
All the martial arts training in the world won't help you from being a nonathletic, weak, beta fuck. Keep going to your karate class, like it would help you against a real man.
Oh no, Master Jukka Lampila is the real deal
Never said I was a grand master, you fuckwit.
taekowndo all through school.. haven't trained since. still know how to fight.. you'd think you'd forget but it's drilled into your brain so it's hard to forget.
carrying around a gun in public is for the weakest cunts imaginable. having them at home as a self defense option is a good idea.
Tae Kwon Do for about 10 years here. Just started looking into other styles. Anyone else see BJJ and Krav Maga places doing the same stuff TKD schools do with regards to the hapkido and judo?
My martial arts style is the seven forty-five strike. Pic related.
Yeah, I left my other karate because it was almost all pad work - hitting pads over and over. My current Shotokan instructor / sensei is focused on technique, and occasionally shows us some aikido and other things he studies. My sole reason is not self defence, but rather a mix of fitness, meditation and social. I could do more sparring, but I tend to skip the squad training sessions. I would recommend Shotokan to anyone... unless, perhaps, they're sole focus is becoming the ultimate fighting machine.
It was a mix of reasons for me as well, I think this goes for most. All pad work is shit thought because once it comes to actually punching something harder than a pad you're fucked.
In addition only doing sert applications really limits your creativity and thinking on the spot, its an art after all.
It needs to be a healthy balance between set applications to squeeze the movements into your head and then free sparring to learn how to actually put them to use in a more realistic setting.
Spearfighting is some fun shit, that's about as close to a martial art as I get atm. Would like to learn a Japanese swordsmanship style and then a European one though. Have no clue what to do for getting into that stuff though.
My gun is a spear though, mosin nagant+bayonet=stabBANG. Though I'm not going to put my life to chance if I ever need to defend it. AK-47 and a 40 round mag full of hurt. If I've let you get close enough to hit me I've done something wrong or I'm intentionally looking helpless while planning to stab you.
used to do capoeira in my teens and it suited me naturally, Im lean, tall, fast and bouncy.
Im now 22 and do fuck all exersize apart from stetching/couple of yoga positions and walking. My body is holding shape but my fitness is terrible and my left knee is clicking, aching and feeling off from no injury.
Id love to get back into something but Im flat poor, in a bad situation and lack the motivation I used to burn of off
I'd really like to know how your taekwondo will stop a man from shooting you beyond your reach. Self defense isn't about macho bullshit and anyone who believes it is deserves to get put down for their stupidity. Self defense is about survival. You do not use honor, you do not fight fair, you use the best weapon for the task. That means even if you could kill every man on the block with your pinky you still carry a weapon. You do whatever you must to get an advantage and you fight to live.
Your goal is not to win a sparring match with tyrone's hi-point, it is to survive.
Something you may want to consider, working pistol use into your martial arts training. You should benefit with a faster more precise draw at the very least.
Yeah, I agree.
Anyone know of Tommy Morris / Kobe Osaka International? Just looked them up again, (world karate. net) and see that their instructors cover Shitoryu, Shotokan and Shukokai (amongst others).
Worst of all karate
Long blocks that don't cover fave
Too wide stance
I bet you are a student and this is the first style of karate you tried
(first one I tried too, realised how bad it was once I tried more, always try more)
There was a "is krav maga legitimate?" Thread just now, but it dissappeared. I posted what little I could offer, but it was already gone. Maybe one of you fags finds this useful.
Is it effective? It can be.
Thing is we focus on these styles because they have names, but one krav maga teacher will be closer to sambo teacher and the other will be more like a mcdojo teacher.
Since martial arts are learnrd from teacher to student the quality and work ethic of your teacher matters much more than the specific style.
I like and dislike krav maga at the same time. On the one hand it generally has the most modern training excercises and thismeans you'll learn faster. Also contrary to many traditionalist approaches it prepares its practicioners at least somewhat for the unpredictability sponteneity and confusion that is inherent to violence.
But on the other hand it has the jewish philosophy of "if someone throws a rock, fire a nuke". It is a destructive and possibly self-destructive philosophy.
I've taken a first lesson of krav maga at different places and each time they threw around phrases like "kill kill kill" and "just keep demolishing". I was holding back each time, because I did not want to injure a training partner.
But therein lies the great dilemma of martial arts training. You always train to hold back either speed, or strength or aim bad on purpose. If you don't, you'll injure your partner.
You can wear padding of course, but that too trains weird incorrect instincts and doesn't really prevent concussions or broken bones.
Truth is, nothing can really prepare you for violence, but doing something is always better than nothing.
Possibly the best thing to train is learning to break being frozen when you're surprised. In real life situations, that's your biggest disadvantage.
Master Wings video response to sexy times is awesome! I wanna see master Wong fight Chosen Ninja. I also want to pick up an 8ball of coke and see how many bookers me and master Wong can make tap out via spitroasting and DPing. Back to back to back. But that's neither here nor there. Isshin Ryu faggot here.
It involves me pointing my gun and pulling a trigger.
I'm good enough I can hit people couple hundred yards away if needed.
Obviously got a black belt in it.
It's where I keep my spare mags.
I guess the most violent person wins in a real fight
I'm not willing to gouge people, does that make me weaker?
Definitely makes me less likely to win
Krav maga is a lot of improvisation with your local surroundings (the one thing most martial arts lack)
Eg let me grapple you in this bar with no space
Capoeira is bad for your knees because of all the cocorinhas and negativas.
But one of the best to learn misdirection and improvising for fights. Especially if you also train angola.
Been training BJJ for 4.5 years, 4 stripe blue belt.
Actually, I found a way to prepare yourself for it. And I know it works because I am a bouncer and I encounter real violence quite often.
You need to pick a martial art that suits you. For me, it's bujinkan. It can be Krav, it can be wing chung, it can be aikido for all I care. Train on technique, train whatever they tell you to train, get your moves burned into your muscle-memory.
Then go do MMA. Not just training, do amateur matches. It will be one on one and there will be regulations, but it resembles actual violence rather well. And the fear you feel when a muscular, tattoed man is trying to bash your skull in is just about the same in the cage or on the street.
Now, when you encounter real violence, you'll have the mental and physical capability to not panic and take some punishment from the MMA you've done. And the other martial art, the one that suits you, will help you in the actual fight. Not that things will work like they do in the dojo, far from it. But the sidestepping, the instinctual blocking, the pressure points, every once in a while your body will notice an opening and take advantage. Shit works.
Protip: If you can find a couple of willing partners and some of those big kicking pads that kind of look like shields, have five or six men rush at you and try to work you to the ground with those pads. All you need to do is let them corner you and then try to escape. That will give you a feeling of what it is really like to be ganged up on.
Jeet Kune Do here, originally started with taekwondo, abandoned it for the more practical kendo, then abandoned the traditional schooling system of martial arts to practice judo with my friend, after he moved away I took up practicing Aikido with a small group of friends
Eventually I learned of Jeet Kune Do, which is essentially what I had been doing for the last few years.
Currently interested in trying out this Wing Chun school not far from me, I hear its pretty good.
>not at least trying to master both
>afraid of the greatest nuance in combat history
>implying dry fire practice and martial arts training need not be an essential part of everyday
>"Which mode of manual transport does /b/ do? Faggots that need an automotive to transport themselves need not apply :^)"
Judo + Boxing + BHP masterrace
Thai Boxing, though i'm searching for a MMA club now.
I'm also interested into iron hands and iron shirt technique.
I try to practice my technique all the time but I don't seem to be able to get into confrontations. I walk around mumbling "niger" around black guys buthave not been able to get into a fight.
99% of martial art's faggots will never use it in an actual fight.
Which is a good thing considering there are no real standard of certification in martial arts. I can go open a martial arts school tomorrow and start handing out belts or conferring whatever "status symbol" that particular weaboo exercise prefers.
It depends on the fight. Like every sports, martial arts teach how to control your body.
The level of control and what you are willing to do with it is on you.
Switching to "kill-mode" is probably the biggest disadvantage that any martial artist can have.
Sure it's a good experience.
The only ninjitsu teachers I've met alk had pretty legit fighting skills and judging from the first few bujinkan youtube vids it looks like the focus lies in very effective techniques.
I've never done matches yet, so I'm assuming you have more experience than I, but I have done 4 vs 1 excercises similar to what you describe and can attest to their effectivenes.
One question though: how many times have you faced life threatening violence?
Being a bouncer is one thing, but it's a venue you know and a time when you are prepared... Not meant as a "are you really tough?" question, but just curious... How many times have you encountered violence where death was a good possibility?
I've only encountered this three times myself and learned hugely from each, but it is still scarce preperation for a possible next time: each time was so different.
> capoeira is bad for your knees
... then you didn't do the movements right, bro. Capoeira instructors all terrible teachers for that ...
Also: best thing to train, as some guy already said: keep calm, look for weak spot, strike than laugh and walk away.
You need to do the same thing, that the ppl of /b/ do with women: see the other as a dead pile of meat ... no killing mode neccessary
>ah very nice I practice a branch of this called Shaolin-DinDuNuffin , its a bit more advanced than your stuff so better watch out
the only thing that does is it keeps cops from shooting you, and only if you are a white belt. it doesn't work if you have a black belt
Boxing for a bit, transitioned to kick boxing, then Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Now I don't do shit because I feel like none of them help me in a practical street fight. They all embedded in my head that one on one with no low blows, eye gouging, headbutts ect. Is how a fight should be. And I realized one day at a bar that's not true. I got my fucking head smashed with a bottle from behind while fighting some asshole. Fuck that rules shit. Any martial arts out there that teach you its okay to rip a niggaz balls off their body?
>TL;dr im a faggot who wants to learn a more gruesome martial art.
Well, depends on how close to death is actually life-treathening. I have had it happen that a guy was so pissed off that after work I got jumped by 15 guys that he brought. I was rather sure I was going to die there. Also, I have had barstools to the back twice, which incapacitated me both times. I've been slashed at with broken bottles, street-tiles have been thrown at me and one time someone tried to run me over with a motorcycle. But in actual, "normal" fights, though I have lost some of those, I never really felt like I was in a life-threathening situation.
This is some high tier cringe bait.
>I'm intentionally looking helpless while planning to stab you
>four foot rifle+6-12 blade
>I'm intentionally looking helpless
You gonna hide that up your ass kido?
Also, Mosin-Nagant's are as in all things russian built, of the absolute shittiest quality. Get a real rifle.
No it's the other way around: capoeira isn't bad for your knees when your teacher is smart enough to update techniques in regards to physiological knowledge.
You go to brazil, sao paulo & salvador and you watch them do a negativa that clearly puts up to 90% of body weight on a fully flexed knee. I was lucky to have learned to have learned to put more weight on the hand, which was more common amongst salvador angola groups, but still less than 50% of what I saw.
Taekwondo. 8 months away from black belt. Unfortunately the instructor has moved to an organisation that is very new an independent, meaning rather than go to a board of 3 judges for gradings, he passes and fails his own students. He's never failed anyone, although he does also decide who is allowed to attempt to grade in the first place. He allows some atrocious members to grade. I wouldn't even be talking myself up by saying I'm easily one of the best in my club, its simply testament to the poor quality of the members. However I mostly self study the encyclopaedia (it's 15 volumes, plenty of detail) and learn correct angles etcetera.
More on topic - a martial art will never be used to perfectly defend yourself like how the moves are written in, for example, the encyclopaedia. However it does two very useful things in a confrontation.
1) Muscle memory (we strike pads at full power, or bags) allow for less thinking about what one should do
2) Confidence. Even just the thought that you know what you're doing, even if you don't really, will make it easier to defend with more confidence.
3) Fitness. Small point but valid.
4) Although you do not fully execute the stances, and to some extent the moves (as you would in training), they give a good base for what to do and where to aim when fighting.
16 guys total? Want to tell the full story?
>goes into panther stance
bjj and kickboxing / mma
the only thing that works in real situations, dont get fooled by all those retarded choreographed dumb "self defence" martial arts there are out there to get your money
been to Aikido once and it was quite good, the teacher also put some general health fitness in the warm up and er.. cool down? (well the counterpart of the warm up at the end of the session). which was really nice.
I went for Aikido because I'm not interested in tournaments and shit, I just want to defend myself and was looking for something that is not regulated in regards to make controlled competitive events saver.
Well since I liked Aikido I would probably go for that, but I'm open to advice what else to try.
Would it be a good idea to do say Aikido and Krav and then just use whatever moves happen to come in handy in a fight?
That's my point, bro. Also: capoeira culture in salvador does clearly not integrate physiological knowledge. Especially in Angola, because of the traditionalist view ... Though there were efforts made stateswise that nobody should be allowed teaching capoeira who is not certified in some way (which would be terrible).
BJJ / MMA and especially kickboxing are trying to meet expectations of how a fight should like like ... whereas a good self defense class does not fucking care. In terms of fitness and such the former are good, but if it comes to survival in a quick hand to hand situation ... no. Especially if there are more than two ppl involved.
This scene is so cool...'what is your stile?"
Bruce:"the art of fighting without fighting"
but on topic, i don't do martial arts, but am thinking about starting. What is effective and realistic?
Nugget's in the same break glass in case of tyrone case as the AK, if I have to grab one right now either one goes. Also, it's not a blade. Think of it as a really big nasty screwdriver attached to a club/boat oar that happens to also be a gun. They may not be the best rifles in the universe but they work and will kill your ass just as dead as any other.
Looking helpless is when unarmed or cant safely draw ye olde gun. Lure the opponent in and give him a false sense of security before revealing you're not actually helpless.
Judo. Own a gun as well because I'm not retarded. Your not fucking neo. If a nigger is coming at you with a firearm or running away the sensible and reliable thing is to shoot
>might as well be because you can use your chi to harm people thats the point
bjj / mma is how you control a fight and defeat your opponent
as for against many guys, is there a good self defence for that kind of situation other than running away or avoid that kind of confrontation?
bonus question: are you retarded?
I do a mix of krav maga, shaolin kung fu and bjj.
Works for me. Never lost a real fight so far.
the fact u post a pic of misty from pokemon naked ready to have sex, in a martial arts thread
tells me instantly you have never been in a fight nor a confrontation since you're so socially retarded
and you only do one of those actively because your mom made you do it when you were younger, and im guessing its something useless retarded shit like krav maga or kung fu
It's about he mode of fighting, bro. BJJ / MMA are rulebased systems created for confronting enemies kinda equally strong and mentally prepared. The psychological part in a street fight, the difference in speed and reaction time and such are a completely different topic ... still it can be taught in a way, but most likely not there. Also: I train K1/MMA at the moment and did a lot of other stuff before. The "control" you are speaking of is different in different situations.
ofcourse every situation is different, how can you be this retarded, but it does not change that bjj/mma is how you control and defeat an opponent in a real life situation
what the fuck is wrong with you?
chiropracting, and muscle bone target point striker. you have to learn a lot less about position, movement, throws and grappling. you practice quick breaks and hitting muscles where they connect to the bone- both of which are debilitating physically and pain wise.
> in a real life situation
srsly. look at what's happening in mma training/fights: nobody is wearing shoes for example, the fighters know when a fight starts and when it ends aso. If you don't get the difference to "real life" than I give up.
Hahahaha this is 4chan dude. Chill out.
And the kung fu i did coz my dad made me when i was 4 until i was 16, the rest i did myself in my adult years. I have been in 3 proper fights. And every other fight i could have had i didn't because i calmed the sItuation down before it escalated.
Don't be a purest either, krav maga and kung fu have their uses and are just as valid as any Japanese or western system. After all, any martial artist who is worth their salt knows it comes down to the fighter more than the style 9 times out of 10.
" look at what's happening in mma training/fights: nobody is wearing shoes for example"
what the fuck are you trying to say? and what does it have to do with anything? really are you autistic
yes and all those tiny uses there are in krav maga or kung fu are focused upon in bjj/kickboxing - mma
the rest is just delustional shit that confuses you
Started in Kempo when I was a kid, from 15 years old to 18.
Found an instructor after that who taught Taijutsu (Bujinkan) and a JKD offshoot called Combative Concepts and been training with him for about 15 years.
In that time I've also added other systems to my overall training: 2 years of Krav Maga, Sayoc Kali, Atienza Kali, FCS Kali, Catch as Catch Can Wrestling, Jujutsu (Japanese and "Brazilian"), Aikido, Taijutsu (Genbukan), and most recently started training with Defense Lab.
Also, I own a gun and shoot frequently. I'm a CPT, do gymnastics conditioning with GMB, and I practice archery.
I think that's about it.
well thats what a person that does not know would say
it is live resistance, live contact, live moments
it is literally like science, an art where you learn a technique and put it to the test to see if it really works or not (sparring)
saying otherwise is just fucking dumb
might aswell be a delusional brony or a scientologist
Try rolling around on gravel or do a takedown on pavement then tell me BJJ is useful in real life
One small mistake on a takedown will shatter your knee. Not to mention other stupid moves designed only to be done on a mat.
And then if you're lying around on the floor, you'll easily get stomped and kicked by others if there are more than 2 ppl fighting. Either accidentally or intentionally.
The reason traditional martial arts are not really successful in the UFC and the likes is because they treat being down on the ground as good as dead. Which was a valid point a couple hundred years ago.
Besides Krav Maga and MMA are basically just a style that copies other styles and combine them, then claim superiority. lel omg so stronk
"One small mistake on a takedown will shatter your knee"
yea you can just fuck off if you're gonna talk out of your ass
"kicked by others if there are more than 2 ppl fighting. Either"
no martial arts prepares you for many opponents, we've alread established that, dont be so fucking dumb
"Besides Krav Maga and MMA are basically just a style that copies other styles and combine them, then claim superiority. lel omg so stronk"
krav maga is kind of retarded, you wont have much luck with hit unless your opponent is co-operating with you
mma on the other hand is made out of the things that actually work in a 1v1 situation
"The reason traditional martial arts are not really successful in the UFC and the likes is because they trea"
the reason is because 99% of all martial arts are choreographed bullshit to impress braindead people that want to learn self defence and have money to give
Keep in mind, that's about 20 years worth of my life, about 6 to 8 hours a week, almost every week. It's just what I like to do when I'm not working or with family.
Although it has been awesome. I'm a junkie for this stuff.
Don't even get me started on my 300+ confirmed kills, or how I earned my sword license and am getting better every day...
That's because you've been visiting McDojos anon
And yeah, do a wrong takedown on a pavement and something will break. Try it. All that rolling around crap are only useful on a mat. Because MMA is designed to be fought on a mat. Like BJJ.
Just do boxing and judo. Kicking is never a good idea if not 1v1 (seriously anon, what kind of real fight outside highschool is 1v1?). And one throw on a hard floor will fuck a guy up. He's not gonna start grappling you after that. The cops might, for manslaughter..
Mjölnir would definitely not qualify as a "mcdojo" its the best mma gym you'll find almost worldwide
"And yeah, do a wrong takedown on a pavement and something will break"
wtf is wrong with you, "do a wrong takedown" ??WAT
ofcourse if you do a mistake in ANYTHING something bad can happen you social retard
why do you keep referring to group fights, we've already established that there is NO martial art that can prepare you 100% for a group fight you dumb fuck
no. having someone pepper spray your face where the goal is for someone to become unconcious as quickly as possible is realistic. what you describe is called dancing.
fucking try realistic sometime and youll find out how much good your dancing does for you.
This. Plus it's one of the few that focuses on modern conflict, such as having a firearm pulled on you.
Really, you think martial arts is going to do shit for you against an armed assailant at a distance. Martial arts is a last ditch self defense when just shooting a motherfucker isn't an option.
why are you so stupid?
i've been pepper sprayed before, yes it fucks you up
but what does that have to do with martial arts?
i am criticizing useless choreographed martial arts
i mean yeah, guns and pepper spraying works, whats your fucking point
You the walking around wearing tap-out shirts anon?
I mean the traditional martial art McDojos
Yeah, but doing a punch wrongly is less likely and less punishing if you're trained. For a takedown : land on knee for a hard takedown on pavement = omg can't be adventurer anymore.. So easy to fuck it up.
No martial art can really prepare you for a group fight true. But a martial art which preferred method of attack leaves you extra vulnerable in a group fight is worse.
But you're free to keep on rolling around on mats and think of your self as stronk MMA fightah if you want. It's your life dude
Try punching them
The other bums will rush you and it will stop being 1v1.
Ppl don't start attacking unless they think they can win anon. Even in bar fights. Granted the reason they think they can win might be because they're too drunk to realize they can't. But they do think they can