>Stars 1000 times bugger than our sun
>Each star must have planets
>Planet could be bigger than our sun
>Lifeforms on the planet could be as big a the earth
No, you fucking dip shit.
For life to form you would need a rocky planet with an iron core. This is because Solar winds blow away the atmosphere unless you have an electromagnetic field. Thats why we have life and mars doesnt.
A planet the size of our sun, with an iron core large enough to protect it would be so dense, it would become a fucking black hole. If that didn't happen, at the very least, the intense gravity would prevent anything from being able to grow there.
>A planet the size of our sun, with an iron core large enough to protect it would be so dense, it would become a fucking black hole
listen here you dense fuck, theres more factors than that, an iron core that large isn't going to produce a black hole
First of all you mean a molten Iron core.
Mars has an Iron core, most of the fucking planet is Rust, hell the moon has an Iron Core.
Secondly, When it comes to gravity is not how much of something is how much is in how little of space, AKA as density.
Just becuase you had a lump of Iron the size of our sun doesn't mean it'll automatically collapse into a black hole.
It wasn't his design
When Adam and Eve sinned, they were separated from God. They knew and understood God, but their children never saw God, so they can't "understand" Him as well.
he is an iron core surrounded by a molten holy spirit who begot a crusty son
yes, i meant to distinguish between molten and solid. I fucked up there and left it out. Corrected myself here. >>603672844
And yes, density matters. Do you know what's REALLY fucking dense? Iron.
When the core of a star becomes iron, fusion stops. This makes the star cool down and begin to collapse in on itself. When the remainder of the star greater than 3-4 solar masses (after fusion pushes out less than gravity pulls in) you get a black hole.
If you had a planet the size of our sun, the core would be fucking huge. This would mean 1 of 2 things
1) Fusion would happen if there wasnt too much iron, and the planet would become a star
2) The planet would become a black hole.
When you make a baby, does he understand you after he is born or does it take time. And we were banished from the garden, we may have had learn musch more if they hadn't eaten the apple
i read recently that one of our ringed planet's moons (i forgot which one) has an iron core, a liquid h20 ocean covering the entire surface, and is all burried under a 100mile sheet of ice. to top it off its thin atmosphere is mainly oxygen.
there could very well be forms of extreme life on that planet. technically microbial aliens or even smaller animals like waterbears.
pic related, its a waterbear. (tardigrade)
these animals can thrive in temperatures a little bit above absolute zero to well above the boiling point of water.
scientists have developed possible structures for silicon based life.
assuming water and oxygen is necessary for life, we may even be looking for life on the wrong planets
just some fun facts i guess.
weren't there giant dragonflies in prehistoric times because of the large amount of oxygen in the air? wasps too
>thinking bigger stars = bigger organisms
>not knowing what square law is
>not knowing wtf gravity is
>not knowing aliens the size of earth would require retarded amounts of resources which the volume of the planet would be able to provide
>Believing this stuff
You niggers just believe anything you read in books, huh?
op is right this shit is mindblowing
Oxygen is only part of it. Gravity is a limiting factor, especially for terrestrial creatures. Weight limits support systems, whether exo or endo.
And they were only a few feet long, not fucking monsters.
Its cute how you guys think square law is an actuall thing, think about it, if there was a "limit" to how much gravity/mass something could support then our universe would collapse upon its self mere seconds after the big bang..
Tl;dr: My books/professor tells me nothing can happen unless they say it does
lol 4chan wasn't create until 2003.
take a look for yourself.
at just 1/4th of one star in the sky.
notice every single dot as being a physical place you could set foot on.
Guys, you are all speaking on earth terms, what If there is a planet that operates like earth out there that is comprised of materials that we don't even know exist, that allow it to function on such a macroscopic scale.
This is not true, virtually all galaxys are too far away to be seen with the naked eye, you need a telescope at least.
with the exception of the Milky Way and Andromeda.
Also Triangulum, Centaurus A, Bode's Galaxy, Sculptor Galaxy and Messier 83 are rumoured to have been seen with the naked eye. Pretty much all others are stars
That is so beautiful.. How many intelligent life on those distant planets are looking up at the night sky and wondering if they are alone.
Sorry but life doesn't work like that.
Huge planet's have huge gravity(compared to earth) and would therefore not have life in any complex form...best you could hope for is lichens.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW!
Been to other solar systems? NO? Then shut the fuck up.
Are you retarded? The inverse square law is the reason light fades with distance, it's the reason divers can swim in water from a nuclear reactor without getting irradiated. It's the reason supernovas don't fry the universe everytime a star explodes.
Life on earth has size limitations to a variety of factors. Gravity is one of them . Planets with greater gravity would not be able to sustain tall animals. Instead, they would be short and stocky. Furthermore, life on earth also has limitations because each cell has a maximum size due to its surface area to volume ratio. Assuming matter is same throughout the universe, there wouldn't be a possibility of super large creatures. On a larger planet, the creatures might be smaller...
amazing video, for some reason i think of this
We don't know that a divine creator exists, also if he did what is there to say he didn't create other planets in other galaxies (or planes of existence for that matter) that operate incomprehensibly different to ours?
Have you ever thought about other hidden factors? maybe our inverse square law is just the tip of the iceberg, physics could be so much deeper and have many more manipulitable factors
>Lifeforms as big as earth
I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT I IDENTIFY AS A ROCK AND THE WORD "LIFE FORMS" IS MY TRIGGER WORD, PLZ USE THE WORD "PEANUT BUTTER" INSTEAD. THANK YOU FOR BEING SO UNDERSTANDING.
But really, if there was a life form as big as earth it couldn't possibly exist because the amount of weight and mass it would carry.
sometimes i like to think of the sheer vastness of our universe. the incomprehensible size of it.
virtually infinite possibilities. i like to think that whatever a human mind can think of somehow can exist on another distant planet. maybe the halo universe is in our own universe, just so far away we will never see it.
why not? with infinite possibilities thats means theres no way to disprove halo being real out there somewhere.
Hello memers, educated person here, the height of an organism is limited by the air pressure and gravity on the planet. It is inconceivable that an organism could reach the size of the earth anywhere in the universe.
back up your claims to why im wrong. instead of getting personal. u know thats only a sign of losing an argument right? too bad this isnt even an argument. you havnt said anything to back up what you have said. you are only calling people stupid or retarded while contributing absolutely nothing.
fucking 10/10 troll you are
size makes you feel insignificant
time makes you feel like you never existed
All that means is we have no idea what's going on at a subatomic level, which is true.
You're implying physics works differently in the same setting, but a different region of space
yea, but you seem to have a little misunderstanding. Square law just means mass increases faster then volume. I dont know wtf you mean about the universe collapsing on itself.
i never said anything about a divine creator, although i admit the term "God" does imply some kind of divine creator.
i only meant god as a symbol of something so great and incomprehensible to the human mind.
You're absolutely right, life could just pop into existance in the vacuum of space or in the middle of a sun...black holes could actually be space-tarantula nests...but in relation to our understanding of life and the enviromental factors that allow or restrict it...you're talking shite.
But who knows...we could be wrong.
"light" does not equal a "star". The lights in the sky are
A fuck load of man made satellites.
Just because you look up and call those bright lights "stars" does not mean that a star is actually made of planetary systems. A star is a single entity.
There are not actually limitations, only those invented by men. They have been proven wrong before - not that long ago we were teaching that life cannot exist without oxygen. Then they found life right here on earth that lived without oxygen, so much for that rule.
The current "limitations" on bug size for instance is related to the amount of oxygen available, so there could be more oxygen on another planet, but there could also be more efficient life forms that gather oxygen better, use far less oxygen, or use other atoms altogether
So there is no "Limit" to the amount of mass/gravity the universe can support? then there shouldn't be any reason to dismiss even the most near-impossible chance that a planet sustaining life forms the size of earth exists, no matter the practicality
Canis Major is bigger in theory but it's actual size is disputable for a number of reasons, it's hyperinflated for one and its irregular in shape, and it's gravity keeps the loosely connected gasses together
who knows, if the muliverse theory is real and laws of physics are different in other ones i would think there are all sorts of halo-like wars going on, but it is frustrating to think we'll never know
Not the guy your arguing with, but each star isn't always a galaxy. Some are actually just stars, and some galaxies are actually about the size of the moon in our sky, but they are too dim to see and require large diameter telescopes with low magnification to gather the light into a viewable image.
Get an actual telescope and learn before engaging in arguments
i'm just reading these shaking my head like "it's good that they're not retarded enough to think God made all this but why do they believe bullshit that they misread at the same time"
In an infinite universe there are infinite possibilities...this is how we know the universe is not infinite however, In relation to your hypothesis I guess it all depends on what you deffine as life and what you describe as a single organism.
There is a great book called 'blood music', that describes humanity loosing cohesion and becoming a vast sea of 'gloop'.
>if the sun is bigger
>the planets are bigger
>therefore the animals are bigger
wat is gravity?
the lifeforms would be smaller. the reason animals can't get too big is because gravity would fuck them up if they were too big.
do you really think the number of cells a lifeform can have is infinite? there is a stopping point in which the size of the creature (more cells as you put) inhibits the function of that lifeform. you cant just keep adding cells for a bigger lifeform. the cells themselves have to become bigger for the lifeform as well
There are only three galaxies visible to the human eye while standing on earth...the milky way and the greater and lesser magelanic clouds. Everything else is either a star a planet or a satellite.
if it's a thousand times larger than the earth, it will have stronger gravity, even if it's just gas. jupiter is just 11.2 times larger than the earth, yet it is 2.5 times more massive than all the rest of the planets in the Solar System combined. and it's a gas planet.
So a planet large enough for the earth to exist upon its surface, and with one tenth the gravity? If the organism in question follows a similar biochemistry, the organism would have a greater gravity than the planet itself.
Electrical signals traveling through a lifeform are still limited by physics, body size is affected.
waterbears can survive the vacuum of space.
stop spreading misinformation that has no proof. life on another planet can function completely different to life as we know it on earth. gravity may not even be important to some alien species. stop pretending you know shit. just know that you dont know
Thats a load of shit. How can we study that? we would need to find life on another planet, measure its gravity and life form size and compare with ours. Theres no other way of being able to make that claim
For everyone talking about Iron cores, I read in the paper today that the Jupiter moon Ganymede has an iron core, water below its ice surface and electromagnetic poles that change polarity.
There's some huge sauropsiedon or summat that they say was soooooooo big that it had a sacralumbar nerve bundle that controlled it's ass end.
There's no lifeforms that could be as big as the Earth, because gravity would not allow it.
Also, if there were organisms that enormous, that would mean that it's in a huge planet and there's no terrestrial planets that size, only Jovian planets.
Jovian planets cannot support life because they consist mostly of hydrogen and helium and do not have a solid surface. They are also found at long distances from their star.
Antares is only 883 solar masses.
NML Cygni is likely double its size.
Not every star has planets.
Betelgeuse is likely going to go hypernova within the next million years though. It would be about the size of a full moon in the night sky when this happens. It wouldn't impact our solar system though.
ITT neckbeards who think they are experts in biology, physiology and astrology.
>tfw when you'll be dead long before Andromeda and Milky Way merge
It's going to be such an amazing light show.. life is suffering. I was born in the wrong generation
so many butthurt children that wants their fantasy of "omg imagine if super large creesures as large as earf! ZOMGZ!!!1!!!1111"
jeez... you fuckers never went to school, did ya. "you canz be smartz even if no shoolz. swag yolo. akshooly more smartester espeshally withouts it."
every animal will be formed by matter... which is affected by gravity. i can agree it would be technically larger if it was a huge film of some sort of cells or whatever that spanned over a large area, but there won't be any magical giants like in your video games.
>Each star must have planets
Except that's not true, there's this thing called a binary star system.
Well, MAYBE there is non-cellular, non-fluidic life on other planets. I mean, if you ignore all of the human understanding of physics, chemistry, and biology, and you squint your eyes REALLY HARD and make a VERY SPECULATIVE FACE, then you've basically proven your point.
>assuming water and oxygen is necessary for life, we may even be looking for life on the wrong planets
I'm a faggot because I can't provide sauce but I recently heard they discovered on organism on Earth that doesn't need Oxygen or water to survive.
>every animal will be formed by matter
>disregarding 4th dimensional beings
>implying life only exists as matter
>implying giants didnt exist on earth before humans
until we solve the question of consciousness, shut up.
>Planet could be bigger than our sun
That's impossible as far as we know. Gas giants turn into stars when they get to a certain size (Jupiter almost became a brown dwarf). So far no rocky planet discovered has been anywhere the size of the sun
Suddenly, your problems don't seem that big a deal. Also, there is a star even bigger than Canis Majoris. Called "Wolf-"something.
>tfw they will never reconcile special relativity and quantum mechanics within your lifetime
Strong theorists gtfo btw don't start with that bullshit
Due to physics and also reality, planets can not be much bigger than Jupiter. Once you start getting much bigger than Jupiter, the planets start to become stars
Also, due to the immense gravity of a large planets, life forms would actually be smaller. Think having the build of an elephant but being the size of a mouse
If you wanted big life forms, the planets would actually have to be smaller with less gravity
>4th dimensional beings
>yfw newage is bullshit.
>>Planet could be bigger than our sun
>>Lifeforms on the planet could be as big a the earth
Won't even read the replies. Just wanted to insult OP.
>2000 years in the future
>we somehow have managed to not blow ourselves up and leave the solar system
>pour ridiculous amounts of resources into finding alien life
>they're like "k sup"
>doesn't fucking matter because the two of us are probably the only intelligent life that will contact each other in both of our civilization's span of existence
>traveling to them is time consuming and pointless plus we have the entire universe to mine for resources
>we just kind of awkwardly acknowledge each other's presence like an 80 year old married couple that stopped loving each other years ago but didn't bother getting a divorce
>we end up at war
>lasts like 10 years and nothing fucking happens
>we both sign a treaty because fighting in space in dumb
you, you proved that tiny creatures can live on earth, and hybernate in harsh environments. by no means did you prove an animal the size of the earth would not be crushed by it's own mass.
Nah, other civilizations could have technology millions of years more advanced then ours. If this is the case they could do anything with us. We'd be lab rats compared to them.
I'll have Einstein for 500, Alex.
Cute analogy but it doesn't translate to megalithic proportions.
Organic Bone density is too weak to handle massive scales like this. Not every star system has planets. Binary star systems are more common than mono star systems. Binary systems cannot support life. Carbon is the building block of life, so if that planet doesn't have carbon, there is almost no chance of life on that planet. A planet needs a solid inner core with a liquid outer core to produce a magnetic field strong enough to build an atmosphere to repel radiation and preserve the planet. For a planet to support non aquatic life, it would need to have a moon to stabilize it's tilt so the weather would have extreme changes. Go finish high school before you talk about freshmen college shit.
Because its not likely. And if we play with the idea of giants earth size creatures then100 fucking retards going to make a 100 fucking threads about how everyone is fucking batman and how there's universes without black people.
But back to giants. From what we have observed so far most stars are around the suns size and giant suns are somewhat rare. Even more rare is life. So it would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack, in a hay field, without knowing if you're even in the right farm or the right country.
Also we're not sure if the universe if infinite yet. Our universe could be infinite while the space outside it goes on for infinity.
if you could google what you copy pasted, you will find in a second, that there are organisms on Earth, that don't need oxygen OR water. But i don't know of an organism who can dou without both. But that is just on our planet
Sure it is. We've been making explosives for what, 3000 years or so?
If these aliens have been making bombs for 3 million years, they're going to make our hydrogen bombs look like snappers.
Even on our very own planet there existed dinosaurs. Whats to say somewhere out there isnt a gigantic race of humanoid titans?
The universe is vast beyond imagining, with all kinds of physics we will probably never understand
All matter, matters.
The planet could not be bigger than our sun dumbass. Anything bigger than around 8% of a solar mass will begin nuclear fusion and be a red dwarf, the smallest star.
Otherwise - yeah, mind fucked.
Also - physics predict the volume of the area around which a black hole's singularity orbits to have an infinite volume due to the distortion of space-time - potentially meaning we're inside a black hole and additional universes as large or bigger than ours are inside blackholes within our own universe. Are you mindfucked yet?
Or the exact opposite could be true.
>We'd be lab rats compared to them.
Thats fucking retarded. Its like "oh shit I got these human earth people that have biology completely and totally irrelevant to my fucking alien biology cells. I better waste time and alien money screwing around with them in a lab"
This is why alien invasion movies are stupid as hell. Theres nothing here worthwhile you can't find elsewhere in greater quantity. The greatest chance we have of ever encountering them is either on accident or they're bored.
antimatter and matter interactions are pure output of mass to energy. What are you talking about? Atomic bombs aren't perfect at all.
We don't really know. They exhibit wave and particle properties.
Anon, saturns core is the size of earth, jupiters is apparently hard to distinguish but is theorized to be anywhere from 10x and beyond if you include its outer liquid metal surface