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>>604210723 1.We don't intend to spout what seems like 'bullshit', but when literally every other party is making exorbitant promises, everybody else has to follow suit. Blame the politicians of yesterday for starting the cycle.
2. Sometimes, like a lot of people in the country we may make a private racist joke. Although I can safely say it no more represents the individual party than a racist in any other workplace.
>>604210741 I do actually agree with ultimately leaving the EU, while it needs a lot more though and planning than what UKIP would like people to believe and is a very high-risk move.
>>604210910 Guilty as charged. Just kidding, obviously.
And yes, I am an MP for the Conservative Party.
>>604211195 Locally, America has minimal influence. Nationally, the 'special relationship' does cause them to have some influence over some decisions, especially when faced with a potentially controversial decision.
>>604211917 Right-wing, fairly traditional but too 'loud' as a party. While I am quite surprised that Cameron (quite a nice guy in person, actually) refused any kind of coalition, I can understand given the accusations of extremity and controversial nature of many of their policies.
Personally, I agree with legalised handguns and stricter border control but Farage is little more than a showman, although a talented one at that.
>>604212892 > hurrr i dont know how to word a argument so ill just call him a troll hurrr
fucking peice of shit. just admit that you do NOT do your part as an american ally. we should have let the fucking germans destroy you fucking pussys, now youre letting the fucking russians genocide ukrainians
you stood aside during bosnia you stood aside during vietnam you stood aside during ww2 you stood aside during iraq you stood aside during gulf war you stood aside during SOU panic you stood aside during PAKY you stood aside during american freedom you stood aside during creamia
when will you fucking brits ever stop being pussys and start being allies? we're always saving you and you're fucking ungrateful
>>604213465 While I am generally in no position to talk either about Christopher Myers or the Dolphin Square inquiry, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to be completely honest given how the man puts a chill down my back every time I see him.
With things such as this, it's generally kept on a need to know basis.
Some more information about me. I hold a seat in the Midlands region, I was educated at the University of Oxford where I studied PPE; Philosophy, Politics and Economics.
>>604215443 I am fairly hopeful given the recent rises in Conservative support, although by the looks of things the main way for us to keep power would be coalition, which doesn't exactly look possible with the Lib Dems being essentially dead.
>>604216046 Needs restricting. The open-border thing has to go. Ideally, it should be selective access with the accepted people being educated, fluent in English and can definitely prove they will not be a financial burden. This is one of the places I'm fond of UKIP's policy of no welfare support for the first 5 years.
>>604216147 Spaghetti bolognese, may I recommend it with home-made garlic bread and parmesan?
>>604216520 Sorry about cutting your mental disability payments, we understand autism is hard to live with.
I'm quite surprised I haven't been doxxed yet to be honest.
>>604217178 You are right when you say that professionally he isn't really anybody big, but then again neither am I in the big picture. I don't know him to well personally but he seems like a nice guy whose doing quite well in local planning although I doubt he'll go much further.
>>604218121 We'll get right on it should we win the GE. Vote Tory for Topkek.
I'm not exactly that big of a figure. I've had time in the limelight and so I've met a few big figures although I've only ever gotten to talk personally to Cameron a couple of times, most of which were during formal meetups. At least he remembered me. Shame he couldn't remember his own kids though.
>>604218810 Not quite related, but my grandmother accidentally voted BNP once in the general election. She did so simply because she thought their colour meant it was 'the right one.' Needless to say she lost her voting privileges.
1) What do you think of Crosby? Do you think he'll win the election for you?
2) Say you don't win a majority. What parties are the Tories prepared to go into coalition with for real? I know Cameron's talked shit about UKIP but they're your likeliest bedfellows.
3) What's your opinion on English Votes for English Laws? Also, are the Tories trying to provoke Scottish independence on purpose? Because Cameron threw a real bone to the SNP by talking about EVEL the day after the referendum.
If I lived there I'd probably vote Lib Dem, Labour or Green but you Tories definitely aren't as bad as our Republicans.
David Cameron looks like a ventriloquists dummy. If you didn't keep getting dick heads as your leader, you'd do better. Get someone up who will talk straight, answer fucking questions and cut the bullshit and you'll be onto a winner. Even if people don't agree with you, they respect hearing the truth.
>>604219835 1. While I've never met him personally, I've seen him around and he does have a certain off-putting calmness to him. From his reputation as a political 'wizard' and from what I've seen of his history I'd bet my overpriced Oxford degree that if anybody can win it for the Conservatives, it's Crosby. 2. Cameron made is very clear in January that he wouldn't work with UKIP. Personally I believe they are the most similar to us with their very traditional ideas and polices. The Lib Dems are the most likely, given how they have reduced themselves to being little more than a Conservative booster in the public eye. However, I do wonder whether or not they'll be enough to establish majority. So overall, when put in the situation. I'd have to say UKIP. 3. In a way it makes sense, it creates a sense of peaceful independence between Scotland and England, something that many people have been fighting for. However, it's going to create much more of a divide than it's going to fix. I know Cameron means well but this is just a bold power play. Just wondering, what do you mean by educated?
>>604220217 Average prestige is 10th on MW2, Cameron drags us down though.
>>604220221 He doesn't have the best of reputations, and there are many other suitable candidates but I believe he probably could lead the Torys. It would be rather unremarkable though.
>>604221170 I have noticed that historically Conservative leadership has dragged the party down considerably. I personally like Cameron and so do many others but there is a stigma around private school candidates such as him. I believe a working/middle class candidate would be the best move right now, showing that the party is beneficial to all.
>>604222165 Mathew Hancock, was born in '78 and worked in software after uni, using the lingo in some posts that old farts would have a clue about, mentioned being doxxed, joining in with things like kek.
>>604223026 Not the guy who originally put forward Hancock but: >Since September 2012, he has been the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for further education, skills and lifelong learning (a joint post between the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills and the Department for Education). >He gained a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics from Exeter College, University of Oxford, and a MPhil in Economics from Christ's College, Cambridge.
I mean I know about and follow your politics, which is fairly uncommon in my part of America. I'm well-read and I'm getting a master's degree in history.
In any case, thanks for the response. I just read about Crosby in the Guardian, and it seems like he might be leading the Tories to a close win against Miliband at the cost of throwing away the rebranding effort. It does seem pretty obvious that in the long term, the Tories will have to moderate in some respects to keep winning elections. Although the same applies to our own Republicans, and they've doubled down on extremism due to internal dynamics in the base.
For your sakes, either the Lib Dems or UKIP will have to make up the difference, because I'm pretty sure they wouldn't work in a coalition with the other in it. I doubt UKIP will be able to; most of the seats they win will be taken from you guys. The Lib Dems might; their polling is terrible but their vote's held up in their seats better than average.
As for Scotland, I've heard the argument that the Tories were secretly rooting for Scottish independence because it would guarantee an eternal Tory government in the rest of the UK. I just wondered how much truth there was to that. Obviously they can't openly campaign for such an occurrence because it'd look bad, but by stoking English nationalism (and therefore Scottish nationalism in response) it becomes likelier to happen.
>>604223417 Thanks, it wouldn't be /b/ without some kind of rampant trolling.
>>604223717 Very much this. While I understand it is very hard to believe I'm a real MP at face value, I recently re-read the thread by the back alley surgeon guy and was inspired to do my own.
>>604223975 On land it's generally despised by people. It doesn't live up to predicted goals and often looks like a blight on the already disputed landscapes. At sea, we really should be investing more in utilising the North Sea much more and is the first thing I would put forward if I was minister in that speciality.
>>604224710 It's always pleasant to see an American whose interested in British politics so you're very welcome, although I can't help but wonder why you are? I try to keep up with all North American politics but I generally am too busy and can only pick up the basics. Your Republican part seems like our Conservative party on steroids, with much more irrationality and tradition for the sake of tradition. Strangely enough, despite being a Conservative MP I would more likely vote Democrat if I was an American.
Considering economy in the uk is in massive desparative state in which there is a minority of elite controlling and holding the majority of the money and the majority of working class is getting exploited on their little to no money whatsoever, what are ur thoughts on what the fuck should we do to fix that. ofc if ur not corrupt and actually want equality between social classes
>>604225675 I definitely think anything related to raising student loans is a critical mistake. ANgering a major demographic aside, I believe further education is at a good balance. Anybody can access it and then pay it off when you're properly employed but at the same time the seemingly high fees make people have to think it through while hopefully dissuading degrees in useless subjects.The whole English Votes for English Laws is a terrible idea simply because of how it was initially presented. The house is in quiet uproar and disagreement about it, especially with how it was initially put forward. Only other thing I can think of is taking too much of a fence sitting view on the EU. Truly sorry about the student loans though and best of luck in the future.
>>604215362 £10 a punch, £8 if you but a mulitpack of 3.
>>604225853 I would bet my job on William Hague being at least bisexual.
>>604226094 I used to browse it but bailed after whatever the hell happened a few months ago, never looked back.
>>604226508 Economic equality is an important aspect in any functional modern society although you shouldn't mix those who are genuinely downtrodden and those who are outright lazy. I believe the Conservative party should take on more lower-class background members like me to just slightly break the stigma with the current private school bunch leading the country. (Cameron, Osbourne, Boris etc) Miliband is alright in this sense. This should hopefully lead to a mild change in policy and ideas pushed forward.
>>604226583 Better men than you have tried. But still, best of luck either way.
>>604226820 I do not. Look back over the thread, somebody has come close to identifying me (or not).
>>604227455 This is a strange matter. We know Britian is becoming increasingly Islamified and we want to stop Britain from becoming increasingly Islamified. Problem is, we can't say anything without being labelled 'ignorant'.
I keep up on politics from all over the world, not just Britain. My ancestors came over from Scotland, and I got to visit there once, but that's not really why. It's just interesting to me, and besides this is a very unique time in British politics. There hasn't been this much uncertainty in a long time and I'm curious to see what will come of it. The post-war settlement seems to have run its course and Britain is going to have to figure out a new constitutional settlement for itself.
America's going to be in that same boat in a few years; the New Deal coalition that propelled the Democrats ran out of steam in the 70s and the Reagan revolution is running out of steam now. The Republicans are winning elections in the short term, but when they run out of angry white old people in a decade or two they're going to have to reinvent themselves to stay relevant. If this gridlock continues much longer, America will have to figure out a new constitutional settlement as well to keep the government running. By the time we get around to addressing our own issues, Britain will have had this election, and Scotland and the EU will be dealt with one way or another, and perhaps your own experience will be able to inform the decisions we'll have to make.
For that matter, what do you think about Labour's idea of a constitutional convention? I know Miliband's gotten shat on for it and people think it's a non-answer to the Scottish question. It strikes me as a reasonable way forward, but it also seems like an oddly American answer to the problem so I'd be surprised if it happens.
On the contrary. The Republicans' base is white conservatives, and they've got almost no minority voters. They lost the 2012 election despite winning the white vote, and that's the first time in history that's happened.
The long-term trend is that Hispanic immigration and higher birth rates for blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans will shrink the current Republican coalition and increase the current Democratic coalition. Also, young white people are trending Democratic. To survive past the 2020s, the Republicans will need to peel off at least one minority group from the Democratic coalition, but it's hard to see how they'll do that right now. It's quite possible they'll go under; they would be the third major right-wing party to do that in American history. If that happened, I don't know who'd fill the vacuum.
>>604228525 It's always good to see well read peopl who take an interest in international politics and how it all compares. This is easily the most accessible time to do so and so I cannot see why one would not. With the sudden surge in power from other parties upsetting the big three, the recently (half) resolved Scottish issue and the upcoming EU problems, this is definitely a time of political uncertainty. You are correct with Milliband's recent shit taking as a result of his idea of constitutional convention and despite being a typical Labour/American type idea, it does strike me as somewhat of a valid idea. At least he's proposing more than just Evel. Just wondering, what do you think of Britain on the world stage? I'm curious about how Americans really see us. Most polls are generally positive.
>>604229186 Not until we can get a referendum on leaving the EU. They're the main drivers of the open borders idea.
>>604230195 This is very correct. We are experiencing something quite on the opposite with the Lib Dems. Due to the many public accusations of 'going to bed with the Tories', it has left them fairly unpopular and little more than a booster to get majority. The Greens are bigger and it makes me wonder what will happen when they're gone. It'll be a sad day either way.
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