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Feminism is a testament to female entitlement and the gynocentrism in society, and how that society basically gives zero fucks about the lives of men or the quality of said lives.
Women want all of the "privilege" of being a man, with none of the accountability. They want "equality" while still being the protected sex.
The only reason it goes unchecked in the collegiate environment is because 99% of millennial college students are women (who obviously care about their own interests) and self-loathing bitch men who were raised by their single mothers. (who are easily shamed and manipulated)
>>605174124 Men are victims though, every fat disgusting kike feminist claims they were raped yet nobody ever asks how bad it was for the rapist. I pity the fool who "apparently" raped Andrea Dvorkin. I hope he brought a blindfold and a puke bucket.
According to the feminist doctrine, a woman is in every way as good, skilled and able, as any man. That means that women need no help from men. So fix it yourself for fucks sake, and prove your own statement. And I wouldn't w-a-n-t to help a woman, out of egoism. If I help her today, she may kill me tomorrow, because the same doctrine says all men should be killed. So if her problems take her out for some days, I feel more safe. Problem, naziwomenfeminists?
I'm a peaceful person, and let people live how they want, and don't really care as long as I am left alone. What a feminist (and they have) would call me: is a bully because remaining neutral is taking the side of the rapists, and abusers, and the misogynists. Do with this information as you will.
>>605176252 Not that guy but... >You shouldn't hate all feminists because a small number hate men. I hate all feminists because even the most moderate among their number is an individual who lives in a society that favors her sex to a disgusting degree, and thinks she's oppressed >You shouldn't hate all liberals because a small number hate whitey I don't hate actual liberals, actual democrats. The problem is the majority of so-called liberals are actually authoritarian egalitarians who pretty much want to make us a nation of entitled weaklings and throw open the gates to the border. >You shouldn't hate all Christians because a small number want to ban the teaching of evolution in schools. Hate is a strong word. I'm an agnostic who leans towards theism, and I'm just not a fan of any doctrine that claims to hold absolute truth without supplying a shred of tangible evidence. >You shouldn't hate all Swedes because a small number want to let the brown hordes into their country. A racist talking about autism. Interesting. No, I hate swedes because their country is a feminazi dystopia.
>>605171327 It's a movement that keep creating a situation where women will eventually get to a point where they've trained men to stop coming to their rescue for things because they've established them as strong and independent and they're slowly slaughtered off by outside extremists after their naturally stronger protectors disappear.
Feminism is a movement for weak people who want to be able to blame something for everything so they can release their stress and it is done by abusing the fact that women are seen as victims. It's very much bullshit like religion.
>>605177427 You don't need a "strawman" to make feminism look bad. Even at it's base, even at it's most "diplomatic" it's a movement that women, who society favors to a disgusting degree, don't have it easy enough.
You'll always hear feminists crying for equal work/equal pay (which they already receive but women tend to overestimate what they contribute) but good luck bringing up equal crime/equal punishment without being the victim of a misogynist witch hunt.
^Same crime. Same victims. Perpetrators are the same age. Only difference? One is a man, one is a woman. Man's sentence was a year and eight months longer. Where are the feminazis with their pickets? Where is the tumblr outrage?
>>605171327 I think we all ignore the united Nations reports of women rape through the whole world the percentage is crazy ¼ women are sexually harassed or rape which is understandable since its through the world including the poor countries in which they do get abuse badly and killed and treated like shit I'm not really a big fun of feminism but we do need equality not so much in north america and america but in Asia and all of those little countries, Spanish speaking countries too. Think about your mom she's at least been harassed in public while she was walking down the street a guy whistle at her or tried to say something sexual to her which doesn't sound like a big deal until it happens 24/7 I don't know guys feminism is not women being in charge I try not to look at it that way but more like a way to help to be more equal and I don't think it should only be for women but for men who aren't being treated equally women are oppressed a lot of the time but men can be too let's just be a bit more considerate when it comes to equality
>>605177756 Feminism is for women what idiots like All Sharpton and Spike Lee are to black people. Tell a whole bunch of lies to rile up a demographic that is actually catered to a lot and convince them they have it rough and nothing is their fault. Its like religion in that its all about cutting people so it can sell them a band aid
>>605180192 I'm the person who made the "gem" of a post. I should have clarified that I did not mean western women. There are many feminists who give a shit about women who actually suffer in shitty countries, like those in Africa or the Middle East. I do believe that any feminist who only cares about "muh abortions" and "muh equal pay" instead of the right to vote and the right to not get raped by packs of niggers, have no credibility. And these are the tumblrites that don't deserve to be compared to rational feminists.
>>605180185 I know, I've heard it before, and my typical rebuttal is something along the lines of
"Maybe. Maybe the patriarchy bogeyman is to blame. Maybe "patriarchy" is just playing semantics, and we're just talking about the status quo, the way things are. And you're ok with it. And by being ok with it, you're part of the problem. Take the male-centric language out of the equation and you're still saying "I know men get fucked just as hard, and probably harder than women do by the system, and I'm ok with it because fuck 'em.""
Feminism is not, has not, and never will be about fairness, equality, or progression. Feminism is a movement of entitled, self-aware, parasitic sociopaths recognizing that the circumstances are such that they can walk all over a generation of men raised by their mothers and petition to stack the deck even more in their favor.
You can't even debate, discuss, or criticize anyone who puts up the shield of the feminist label because by disputing anything they say you're a woman hating misogynist.
The movement is, to borrow their word, toxic because then you see shit like Anita Sarkeesian blatantly running a con and nobody can call her on it. You have Brianna Wu (who comes from an extremely privileged background) being immune to criticism for his hypocrisy (talks shit about other devs for no diversity, throws together a name whose cast is entirely white women) and having people pretend his blatantly obvious mental illness (not talking about being trans, but his behavior) is nonexistent because he hides behind the sacred cows of feminism and transphobia.
You have movements like #killallmen not being recognized as threats and hate speech because it's protected by said sacred cows.
We stand on the dawn of a renaissance of men who have seen the injustices against them and elected to go their own way. It won't be easy. It will be hard. But we'll make it. As the good Dr. once said, "we shall overcome."
>>605180934 The problem is the strong womem you knew didn't need feminism feeding their victim complex. These callow ones you describe are that way because third wave feminism convinced them they are so oppressed and every man is a soulless rapist and they should live in constant fear of the patriarchy. Third wave feminism is the cause of this not the solution. It says its about empowerment when its really just turning them into entitled victims, which is actually the opposite of empowerment.
>>605181304 Oh I agree 100% but what you're describing isn't feminism, it's humanism, and the tumblr feminazis are too busy crying about first world problems to give a shit about Shari in Pakistan getting stoned to death because she might have looked at another man or something.
Here's the thing: nobody should be a dick to anyone. We should all be awesome to each other. But shit like gender roles exists for a reason, and it doesn't have to be a bad thing. The only reason this is even debated is because we haven't known a legit threat in generations. These women who cry about how bad they have it have never known desperate, the only suffering they see is on tv.
BUT when the shit hits the fan, as it invariably does, these same women, degenerates, and halfmen will be begging for some toxic masculinity to shield them from danger. They'll look up and shout "save us!" And we'll look down and whisper "No."
>>605182118 I'm the person you just replied to, and I agree 100%.
You can want a car more than anything else in the world, but once you get one, you'll want something else. They begged for the right to vote, but once they got it they started wanting more. They started wanting more than men have. I support advocating on behalf of all humans, but "feminism" is extremely inclusive, which feminists always seem to argue against.
The non-radical feminists need to branch off and start their own egalitarian movement. It would earn them a lot of credibility and support from men.
>>605183262 Pretty sure you're a troll but since you're volunteering to be my strawman I'll oblige.
>Aww are the children frightened of an opposing point of view? Seeing as you can't disagree with them without being called a shitlord, apparently.
>wrong side of history >at the end of the day At the end of the day you know this, all of this, is just temporary right? You're a movement of worthless, entitled parasites desperately trying to validate their own weakness, lack of purpose and malcontent by demonizing the people who have put you in your position of privilege and safety.
But like I said, it's temporary. When shit hits the fan, when the powers than be can't agree who the oil belongs to or whose god has a bigger dick, when the boots hit the ground and nukes start to fly it won't be the bull dyke with her amazing technicolor hair-do or the bitch male with deformed ear lobes you turn to, it'll be the alpha male who leads and the betas who have the strength to follow him who you'll look to save you when the good times end and reality sets in.
This isn't a matter of it, but when. This isn't society, this is biology. Your movement exists only because society is so decadent and prosperous that it can afford to humor it. For now.
Anyway, hope you like them apples. This is the part where I drop the mike and walk away.
Not going to read all that hateful bullshit. Your little "arguement" has been heard a million times before and it remains as invalid as ever. Not going to oblige you by reading your cynical bullshit. If I wanted to read some nonsensical hateful crap I'd buy a copy of mein kampf. Or maybe I could borrow your copy? ;)
>When the war men starts breaks out, you'll need men >When the men fight over dumb bullshit, you'll need men then >When the men argue over their misunderstanding of he universe, you'll need men then
If women were in power we wouldnt have war. Your patriarchial attitude belongs in the 1960's beating black men because of the massive penis envy. The world would be better off without you and your way of thinking and your methods of "solving" issues.
Seriously, only something as STUPID and BRUTISH as a man would say "I dont agree with you, so let's kill each other and each others citizens and whoever is left wins, deal? Let's not bother talking about anything like a rational human being".
Men aren't humans. They've been in power all throughout history and so everything wrong with this planet is THEIR doing.
Think to some of the worst people in history. Hitler, Mousseeni, Stalin, etc... what do they all have in common? A weird danly piece of meat between their legs that nobody cared about so they got angry.
>>605171327 Femanon here. I personally love the shitstorm that starts everytime some poor faggot makes one of these anti feminest threads. Gives me a chance to see just how upset I've made everyone and chuckle a bit.
You think jokes about kitchens or showing tits bother me? It just goes to show how much power any random female holds over you, they can pull your complete attention away from a topic just by having a vagoo.
Sure, you'll act tough and cynical here, but we all know it's just a desperate overcompensation for how much of a doormat you are IRL. If you decide to lash out and act a bit sexist now and then, I can't really complain.
After all, we do pretty much run the show. Men rely on us, work for us, spend money on us, buy us houses and cars and clothes, sign prenups that we can turn around and cash in when we feel like ditching them for a younger, cuter piece of ass.
Got a kid with a girl? Don't fool yourself, it's HER kid, not yours. Piss her off and she'll take it and leave your ass, and you can pay her a nice chunk of child support for the rest of your life.
Yep, this is the power we hold over you. So you go ahead and make your rape jokes, really. I still know that when you see me on the streets you'll be watching, getting hard, and problably crying a tear or two because you know you'll always be a forever alone faggot
I believe that the majority of the radical feminists know what they spew out is completely false. I believe the majority of radical feminists do what they do because it makes them money.
Anita for example definitely knows that video games are harmless. She admitted once that she considers herself a gamer and in another video says she knows nothing about gaming and had to read up on it.
She created that kick-starter after brainwashing a shit ton of gullible women and made a pretty fucking penny. She has never even released the documentary she promised and is getting even more money now flying around and doing panels.
Feminism now is nothing more than a money scam.
And the women that say "we;re not radical we just advocate women's rights" are mentally challenged. They keep allowing these radicals to slip through the cracks and lead the movement.
In a general non radical essence, I think that the word feminism needs to be abolished. Women have all the rights men do and then some. If there still needs to be this fucking constant talk and debate about oppression that does not exist, at least called it gender-equality. Feminism is dead and there is no need for it anymore.
My girlfriend is a feminist to an extent, but that ends in the bedroom. She is still a woman to me, she is smart, pays for half, I think guys that are intimidated by strong women have neve been laid or have little dicks. I'm still physically stronger and I dominate the fuck out of her. Sex is insane. My life rocks.
Just like every other movement, it needs to have both a carrot and a stick. They can't all be short-haired man-hating dykes and expect the people in power to give in. Blacks in the 60s had Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as their carrot and Malcolm X as their stick, and for a short while, parts of the power structure started to listen. Now we have a black President, here in the USA, so we know it's working. But all I see from the feminists are the sticks. "All sex with men is rape! All straight cisgender white men are rapists! Video games are evil misogynist things because none of them feature fat black crippled transwomen!" Because of that, I think we should drag them out in the streets and execute them. Because you know who else are all sticks? Terrorists and enemy armies. Feminists all want to act like the enemy, they should be treated as the enemy.
>>605183516 Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. -CS Lewis
Just read all the comments made my feminists on this thread and see if you notice any trend. None of them ever offer any good arguments or critisism, they just call everyone bigots and misogynists until the thread 404s
>>605171327 Feminism SHOULD be about equality, but neckbeards and feminazis prefer to make it a fight over who is more underprivileged. As a femanon, this is what I practice: I trade off who pays for dates with my bf. Giant weddings revolving around bride are shit. Sex with drunk/can't consent girl is rape. Sex with drunk/can't consent boy is rape. Prison rape of men is just as big of a problem as rape of women. Less homeless shelters for men is shit. Cat calling of women is shit. The wage gap for men or women is shit. Women should be in the draft. Women can wear pants. Men can wear skirts. Basically, don't let genitals determine what social rules you have to follow. Nobody should get special treatment, and nobody should be beaten down.
>>605192180 1.Men have to sign up for draft, women do not. 2. Men get longer prison sentences than women for the same crime 3.Men have zero reproductive rights 4.Women get custody of children 95% of the time in divorce cases.
>>605191830 >I trade off who pays for dates with my bf Eh... as long as it doesn't end up where he just happens to pay for the more expensive outings. Going 50/50 is best. >Giant weddings revolving around bride are shit Mutual joining of lives on a beach/park with close family and friends invited is god tier, everything else can gtfo. Brofist. >Sex with drunk/can't consent Eh... yes and no. If you're grinding on each other all night and then become intoxicated, if it was going to sex anyway then it's fine. Basically if one person in blacked out and the other person is completely lucid then it gets fucky. >Prison rape of men Hell yes. Whole penal system is fucked. >Less homeless shelters for men Yup. Male suffering matters less. >Cat calling of women is shit Yes, with the caveat that if she is dressed to get attention she shouldn't complain when she gets it. Look up Dave Chappelle and whore's uniform. >wage gap Nonexistent. >women should be in the draft If there must be a draft, sure. But honestly if a populace doesn't feel the need to go to war on it's own the gov't should fuck off and reexamine their motives. >women can wear pants This was ever debated? >Men can wear skirts But they really shouldn't. Except on St. Patrick's day. >Basically, don't let genitals determine what social rules you have to follow. Nobody should get special treatment, and nobody should be beaten down Capital post sugar tits.
>>605171327 im for feminism if the goal is empowerment and opportunity. unfortunately feminism in the 21st century seems to be nothing but a bunch of bored upper middle class women's studies majors looking for a cause. modern feminism is nothing but women arguing with other women. men don't seem to factor in at all.
>>605193245 >im for feminism if the goal is empowerment How about empowering yourself, not through some bullshit movement filled with delusional cunts. Even if we had complete equality on a political/social/economic level, some of these idiots would still seek for ways to play the victim card
>>605191830 agreed. my boyfriend and I have been together almost 4 years, and we enlighten each other about gender issues all the time. I explain why catcalling is demeaning, and he explains why circumcision of male infants is horrible. Sometimes, I turn a blind eye to the issues men face. And he doesn't think about the issues women face. Talking to a person of the opposite sex (one that doesn't want to lash out and get offended for no reason) can really help to see issues in a different light. Not saying you need a girlfriend, /b/, but maybe a girl friend wouldn't hurt. to talk to. and understand things from a different point of view. Both genders are wrongly privileged, but in different ways.
>>605192910 What make me sad is the fact that she actually believe in that shit. She probably belong to upper middle class, living in a safe area with a high standard of living and yet she truly believe she is oppresed and that death row inmates have it better.
>>605191830 also courts shouldn't default to giving child custody to mother in cases of divorce. I had a friend whose parents divorced and her mother got custody... the mother was and is an unstable weirdo who lives in a trash house. the father, who she should have been sent to live with, is a cool guy who cooks and cleans and just generally cares. I guess the judge was biased towards females being better mothers. The woman is technically a mother, yes, but she's a shit parent and it would've been better if my friend went with her dad.
>>605194863 >She probably belong to upper middle class, living in a safe area with a high standard of living you forgot >parents paid for college >no debt >never had a real job >parents pay for everything- car, gas, phone, health insurance, etc... >parents have tried to establish professional connections for her to pursue but she's too much of a 'free spirit'
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