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>>605342116 The PROBLEM is that as a guy you are supposed to be the better person, the stronger one, the more level headed one. You can't bait somebody into an argument just so they'll hit you so you can demolish them under "self defense". If she hits you, so what? It didn't do anything. She has a temper, she ineffectively slaps you, that doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want to her. God damn. Women are like children, they're weaker and you can't use the same force you would on another guy.
>b-b-b-b-b-but she HIT ME ;______; BAWWW Man the fuck up you wussy pussy babby.
>>605341956 well she got beaten for hitting him after getting mad at being made fun of for being a lesbian. like, why cant people just be honest about a cause if they supposedly believe in it so strongly?
and yes, yes i would hit a woman if she hit me or someone i care about.
>>605342445 This, this is why gender equality can only apply to some certain extent since the two genders have different roles in life and in some way more superior than the other in accomplishing things
She shouldn't have slapped him first, but he shouldn't have retaliated. They're both in the wrong. Women are emotional creatures, they can't help losing their minds over any little thing. You, as a man, have to recognize that and not give in to their shit.
Even though no one should physically put their hands on anyone regardless of the situation or gender, I would never hit a woman because even though "muh equality," I know that I'm stronger than her and she'd get fukken rekt.
Sometimes it's about biting the bullet, and not necessarily who's right.
>>605342445 >ike children, they're weaker and you can't use the same force you would on another guy. This makes me rage. Wtf. If i would have hit a guy, he would have hit me back. I am weaker than most of the guys, but would i get that benefit? NO! I am all for hitting women who slaps you, not beat them to a pulp though. I mean, if you are afraid that you might get hit back then you wont do it. They will learn.
personaly i wouldn't hit a woman, but my ideology says that if she hits you you've all the right to hit her. anyways don't give her a big ass punch in her face because probably she's loosing her vision.. they're weak
>she argues endlessly >can't let up because she _feels_ she is right >she's flustered and turning red >you can't stop your laughing because, god damn, how mad is she going to get over this? >keep it going as little as you can by telling her 'nope' or 'sorry you feel that way' >trying to get her to reach the point where she'll hit you >it finally happens >grab her and hold her to the ground so she can't move >tell her she needs to calm down, this isn't a big deal, and that she really should seek mental help >your face when
>>605342445 The ONLY problem here is that the response was disproportionate. It should NEVER be okay for ANYONE to hit another person, but men are equally allowed to hit back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM
>>605342495 >breaking a womans nose because she slapped you is self defence that was the most euphoric post I've read all day >>605342445 this >>605342922 >if you want equality you get it >impling a woman is physically equal to me I'm not going to break the nose of a child and then scream "H-HE HIT ME FIRST, I HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND MYSELF" if you actually need to defend yourself from a woman with force, you are a pussy >>605342802 >victim blaming it's amazing how many people will talk against feminism, while at the same time using the same bullshit logic they do
>>605342698 and how do you know that she would stop at this one slap if he hadn't beat her first?!
Plus, if you remove all the social stereotypes and interpretations from this incident i.e. - no distinction between genders, - no predisposition on who's "the weaker" side - and no background other than "it started with a slap and escalated to a fight" the initiator of this fight immediately becomes the lesbo solely on the fact that: >slapping is a physical attack which we made illegal in the Western society to prevent it.
So technically there's no doubt she attacked maliciously when she could have just been "the bigger" person in this and let it slide.
>>605341956 Bitch engages physical attack with a slap, the guys ends it with a broken nose before the bitch decides she wants to pretend to be a cage fighter for the next 10 minutes.
The first slap is no different to a donkey punch. Girls are the dirtiest fighters around, he did the right thing. If he just slapped her back, should would have gone ape shit and tried to punch him back, just the same. Only she would have ended up with more than a broken nose if the fight escalated. He did her a favour.
If some dude slapped someone because they were losing an argument, then got their ass handed to them, nobody would bat an eye.
> girlfriend of 12 years gets drunk > she was abused as a child > comes at me like a badger for no reason > slaps me twice, screaming about nothing > I try to avoid by going to another room > she follows, tries to slap a third time > I grab her arm and take her to the ground > now she has a busted chin and bruised all over from the fall
>>605344940 Women are adults and are should be held accountable for their actions. I have held my wife to this standard since we met, and it has made her realize that women are just as capable as containing their emotions and acting like responsible adults.
>>605341956 Force should be proportional in my opinion. The screenshot is a bit bias, what the fuck does "making fun of" mean? Guy could have been expressing his opinion and got attacked for it, I could see the rage in a situation like that. Personally, I'd have no problem striking or even killing a person who meant to do the same to me. That said, he should have just slapped her back. The only time equal force does not apply is when an attacker is armed, then you fight to kill. There's my two cents. This thread is infested with WhiteKnights so good luck actually having a discussion about it, they just plug their ears and chant "muh male responsibility" without realizing that this argument discredits women as too stupid to handle their own affairs.
>>605345171 not every woman you interact with is a feminist, not even every feminist you interact with is the bad kind of feminist. yet you make the choice to tackle your issues like you are a tumblr feminist
>>605341956 Well, there are plenty of reasons to hit a woman, (just as us men give them plenty of reasons to hit us). But that isn't a reason to do it. (Mainly because they have packs. They will fuck us up if we do.) Which is why it might do well to seriously consider turning gay.
>>605345464 They're really not. Since they don't have actual consequences the way that men do, they're never going to be considered equal or have to think like that.
A man has to think. Is it worth hitting her when she's crazy? She or somebody else WILL call the police and it WILL cost you something.
A woman doesn't have that filter. She doesn't have to think about her consequences. Women get to hit men as much as they want and then she can even call the police and they'll have to take him away because the man is always, always at fault. Even if he's got a broken nose or black eye or cuts on his arm and she's fine, they will assume it was because she was defending herself from his attacks.
You found a girl that will let you hit her when she deserves a hit? Great, but it's only a matter of time before she finds out she can have your ass arrested
>>605341956 I'll hit anyone if I'm hit first. If they hit once, I'll hit also with reasonable force.
If they continue hitting me, I'll continue hitting them back, with reasonable force, while trying to get them to stop. This might include trying to knock them out, holding them down, getting others watching to help or getting the cops. (I'm white, so cops would be the first reaction, but I'll fight back my natural urges of trust)
After it's all over, I'll press charges to have them arrested for assault and get their ass thrown in jail. Oh, I'll also take them to civil court.
Once convicted, his/her criminal record will be stained with this and employers won't hire them due to the risk of them assaulting someone.
You don't have to be this big badass to get back at someone, you just have to be dedicated enough to fucking someone over worse than what they did to you.
>>605345517 It's not "self defense" when she slapped him first, but it's also not self defense when he breaks her fucking nose for a slap. He could have walked away like any sane person, but he didn't. That was wrong.
>>605342610 was it? The way i see it, as she obbiously is yet another hysterical female, a returned slap would have resulted in a slap fest. The reaction was proportional to the means, to stop her from continuing to slap.
>>605346010 Never said I hit her, but I made her understand how childish women are today by showing her a vid, will look for it. Shows a child and a woman reacting the same way to bad news. She understood women as well as men have the responsibility to act dignified even under the most trying of circumstances.
If you do not your a child and children should be punished until they understand how to adults.
The way it SHOULD be is that you can retaliate against anybody who hits you. In practice though, this doesn't work, because people aren't actually equal. You can argue all day about how it ought to be, and we'd all probably agree. The law doesn't work that way, though.
Oh god this thread, have any of you ever been in a fight before? Because the I'll only hit back equal to the other person stance tells me you haven't. In a fight your goal is to end it as fast as possible so you feel as little pain as possible, somebody slaps you, you take them out quick before they can hit again and harder.
>>605341956 On the internet I would say that I would hit a woman back if she ever touched me, but in real life I wouldn't. Not because I would hit her much harder than she would be able to hit me, but because of the legal implications. She would go to the police, and I would be charged with a felony because self defense never works when it's a man defending himself against a woman.
>>605346904 Apparently she was on some drug and was annoyed by the drunk guy eating pringles. They both weren't in the right state of mind. but the camera person was laughing, 'haha, she's probably possessed yo!' until he got up and hit her, then he lost his shit and told the guy to calm down, that it's not right to hit somebody.
>would you hit a woman absolutely. If the woman struck me with some intent to cause harm [not because of that play punching / pushing shit] I will strike her back with an open hand. >inb4 men should be better than that, you shouldn't hit a woman because she's weaker, douche Yeah, don't give a shit. Women want to be treated as equals, if you are willing to strike someone you better be damn prepared to get hit back. Not gonna treat you like a goddamn child.
If men should be the bigger person when struck by a woman, maybe women should wear proper clothing and not be offended when men stare and oggle at them. >B-B-B-B-UT I shouldn't have to change what I wear because men should grow up and not stare rape me get the fuck over yourself
tl;dr Would hit a women if struck first seriously ITT: feminazis and white knights battling out for biggest pussy and title of queen of double standards
>>605347121 That's the thing though, women do not have that mind set yet. They're like children. They do NOT have the ability to think of consequences before acting. Any guy knows hitting another guy will most likely lead to a fight, and that's why he's prepared to do it.
She didn't know what would happen, the poor girl. Wasn't raised to believe men could touch her.
>>605347249 She slapped him in a fit of womanly emotions. I highly doubt she rushed and attacked him like you're thinking. You can't twist this situation up into some form where he was "defending" himself asshole.
>>605346831 Good point sir. That is also allowed within the proportionality principle. The principle is of course not that you can retaliate. The proportionality refers to what force needed to be applied to end the violations, and wether or not it would have sufficed with a lesser use of force. Its not like your only allowed to slap her back, that would obviously only spurred the whole figth along into a slap fest. However, as the law is in my country, the self defence principle is only applicable if there is no other way out. Meaning, if you can run, you cannot hit back and call it self defence. However, i would definetly say that she had it coming, and probably have done the same. The only woman that have slapped me is my mom, so i havent retaliated.
There are two good, reasonable times to lay your hands on a woman. The first being a "regain your composure" slap. If your lady is trying to get the last word, keeps following you around, won't drop the subject and you have tried three (3) times to disengage from the situation (fuck leaving your house though, this is YOUR house) you can use this move and she'll call you a son of a bitch, run to grab a gun and blow your cheek off. The second is the "brochacho solid" and it's when you sneak up on a girl your bro likes and knock her out cold with one clean clock. You then pass the girl off to your bro so he can fuck her.
No I wouldnt hit a lady if she hit me I would tip my fedora at her and watch her panties explode with wetness as she grovels at my feet reaching towards my manly beard. I would look her dead in the eye. Lean into her and whisper into her ear. "M'lady~" and watch her orgasm to death
>>605347383 Ignorance of the law doesn't permit you to break it. Also if someone "knows" they can hit someone and that person will never hit back, they definitely shouldn't be hitting them. Why the fuck would you hit someone knowing they can't hit you back? That's as bad as an adult beating up a child.
>at smoking area of a bar >some fat chick throws her cigarette in my beer >I call her a cunt >"um, excuse me?" >clear my throat and say loud and clear >"I called you a cunt" >she slaps me >laugh loudly in her face >"that the best you can do?" >she punches me with a closed fist >laugh even louder >"nice try fat bitter cunt" >she starts sobbing >walks around the smoking area, asking guys to beat me up because I called her a cunt >nobody even responds to her >she starts crying and goes back inside >her much hotter friend walks up to me, apologizes for her friend and buys me a new beer
>>605348379 He is a poor excuse of a man for today's society, but then again; so were the men in past centuries that shaped our world, that had sex with 12 year old girls. God damn, I fucking hate this planet.
The rules of confrontation state that any chick gets one free hit that you have to shrug off. Sorry. That's why you get paid more an hour than her. You have to take some bullshit sometimes. The idea is that once she sees that it did nothing, she'll stop and not want to continue on this path.
If she does it again though, go ahead and kill her. I don't care. She's crazy.
>>605348269 GL with that >Hello, 911. Yes I'd like to report being slapped >Slapped? You mean you've been in a fight? >No, she just slapped me once then walked away >So there's no ongoing fight? Do you have any injuries? Do you need an ambulance? >No not really, I just wanted to report the assault >What did she look like? >I don't know, she just slapped me out of nowhere, I wasn't paying attention >*click*
>>605348269 Lol, everybody knows the law is not equal. What do you think an officer would say, when entering the sceen of the crime? He would think that you are a pathatic man, who cant handle your woman. And he would probably think you had it coming for some fucked up reason. She would be let off with a smile, and a ironic statement like: dont hit your pathetic man again, it may be too painfull for that little bitch. Lol
>>605347440 I just call the cops. Friday night I got into a huge fight with my now ex girlfriend. She started coming after me and scratching my face and when I put my hands on her to move her away she started screaming "help" at the top of her lungs like she was about to get murdered.
Then she started throwing shit off of counters and making a huge mess.
THEN she went after my computer, which I just finished dumping $2,000 of my own money on.
I called the cops and had her ass kicked out. I don't think I'm ever going to be in another relationship again. I fucking hate getting to know women now. They're all shitty on the inside.
>>605348750 Ive wondered that too. In addition, why do he think the only reason she is hitting him is because she wants him to succumb to her demands? She probably knows that it wont work, but she does not care, she is a woman, and what she feels is Her law. If she feels like hitting, she is going to hit.
>>605348944 Oh it's terrifying. My best friend got married when he was 21, I told him it was a bad idea. He of course said he knew what he was doing so I dropped it. It's now 4 years later and she's broken their entire dinner table set by now (4 chairs and the table) and punched through their bedroom door when he locked himself in to get away from her. He's afraid that if they split she'll get half his shit and their dog so he keeps trying to make it work.
>>605348629 If it's a godfather fucking tap on the cheek I wouldn't mind so much. But I have never seen a girl not put full stunning force into a slap. It is no different to a donkey punch. If you escalate a verbal confrontation to a physical one, no matter how you do it, don't complain when your ass is beat.
Two problems 1. if she WAS hit, she'd call the fucking cops like any other cunt before making some faggoy selfie for free pity 2. what guy hits a cunt cuz shes gay? like for real? only niggers hit women when they dont want to fuck
>>605341956 I've never had an urge to physically harm a woman but I am impulsive enough to have stabbed an inanimate object. It scares me a bit but what really bothers me is remembering how she backed away and the look on her face.
This is why 4chan is a shit place Its full of misogynistic lowlives who have no better thing to do then criticize women. This is what gamer gate was about people. We demand equality but if you hit a woman you are a loser. A real man wouldn't hit a lady. Thanks for nothing you only are helping to make the patriarchy stronger I hope one day you will see what equality means.
>>605348660 No, that's not what you'd do, faggot. Not if you aren't in danger. But assuming you had any proof, you could sue. I would probably not waste the court's time, but sometimes people need to be taught a lesson.
>>605348823 >So ma'am we've had a report that you assaulted someone >No, he threatened me and called me slurs, was about to hit me so I slapped him first >That's all we needed to know, thank-you ma'am If people see a woman slapping a guy they'll just assume he tried to grab her ass or something, which probably would deserve a slap. Unless they've been watching the whole situation, there would be no witnesses and the girl's story is taken to be true. >Sir, the woman said you threatened her and tried to hit her yourself? >Well she's lying >Of course she is sir. Step outside with us for a moment sir
>>605350177 So? So fucking what? Double standards exist. Do you have a point? Do you have ANYTHING TO SAY beyond "waah it's not fair" ? It's your job to be the man if you're a man. Fucking do your job.
No, I'd probably never hit a woman but by that I mean I'd never hit a woman first. I'd walk away from a woman who slapped me once. If she tried to continue the confrontation then I think I would go ahead and hit her back. I've thought about this a lot because I'm older and the rules I was taught as a child and young man are no longer suitable for the world around me. When my dad was telling me that men should never hit women I was growing up in a world where I don't think I ever saw a woman even attempt to hit a man or heard about it. People were in general more courteous then.
Today I'd hit a woman if I was put in that situation by one. I would defend myself but I'd get out of it as quickly as possible.
Its a great step forward for equality > talk shit get hit If you dont somebody just bc if gender. You are in fact judging them purely based off their gender. Its that kind of backwards thinking that keeps oppression alive So if she deserves it, yes Im not not going to hit bc just bc shes a woman
>>605350078 I pushed my girl pretty hard cause she was screaming in my face while my hands were up. She got banged up a little which was unintentional then she scratched me like a whore. She called the cops on me, cops came and arrested her. Went inside, had a couple drinks, went to sleep. It was a great night
>>605350350 I'd have to laugh at the woman hitting me, it's funny, because I can't do anything back without going to jail. What silly times we live in. I could freely hit the guy back. See, I know the consequences of hitting a guy back and I know the consequences of hitting a girl back. She's not going to trick me into this shit.
>>605350410 >I'd walk away from a woman who slapped me once. If she tried to continue the confrontation then I think I would go ahead and hit her back. This is the only example of what defending yourself is. It's not lashing out when you get slapped, it's trying to get away and them giving you no choice but to get them away. Also any force beyond them stopping is now you assaulting them.
>>605350384 Really? So we don't want equality now? Fine by me, let me just gorilla my way into a girl and rape her all I want, since I'm stronger than her, I'll just do whatever the fuck I want to a woman, because I can dominate her.
>Equality in effect >women get treated like men >start shit get hit, and it goes both ways
>Equality not in effect >stronger men OOGA BOOGA dominate womyn >stronger men dominate weaker men
You can have it one way or the other, but not both ways.
Thing is, people complain about things when it suits them.
>>605341956 >>605342445 There is a .webm that shows a bitch in a subway get "possessed" or "have a seizure" of some sorts that shows her choking and repeatedly punching an unsuspecting man FOR NO REASON and nobody did anything. The moment the man punches her back (I would have too, bitch was cray) he gets charged by two manlet whiteknight asian cops. I had the .webm but accidentally deleted it recently.
The lesson in this story is that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EQUAL RIGHTS, GET OVER IT.
bonus points if you reply with that .webm warning: it is very rage inducing and belongs in a You Rage You Lose thread
>>605350856 You're assuming she has the same laws that apply to men. She doesn't. I totally agree that people over 18 are smart enough to know that they shouldn't do things like hit another person...but it really, really doesn't work that way in real life. She might think twice before hitting another person now, but I hope he enjoys real butt raping prison.
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