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>Shitting on MSpaint
This is why
Right trip man?
Dunno, but is a clean creature/thing!
Did background characters.
Got stumped fast.
That good enough?
This has changed me. Help!
I dunno, I'm tired and watching vide-
GOOD GOD NO THEEVAN
what do you think is the basic reason avatarfagging exists here?
>Sherrif what the FUCK did you do? Choose your next words with exceptional care.
Like seriously, by these standards all the Anons here who've never picked up a pencil for drawing are drawfags.
It doesnt seem fair to people who actually practiced/are currently practicing for this shit to be here.
then you object the point and replace it with your own fantasy.
Lemme ask you because it's late, but who's art have I shit on again?
>taking ava drawings this seriously.
If you draw here regularly, you could be a drawfag, but you can usually tell when someone wants to be here and someone is just shitposting or it's just an anon trying to get thirst or scribble. That's why Bishop isn't/wasn't a drawfag
read the OP pasta some time, new drawfriends are always welcomed.
Say some names of people I shit on.
I mean..........that's like breathing, it ain't THAT hard.
Could someone draw pregnant Shego riding a guy? Thanks.
In what way?
Like his art or like in general?
No, No I can, just wondering what way they mean.
>Where the fuck is my daughter, I'm losing my patients.
Anyone still doing requests? Wondering if someone would draw this vixen cuddling with someone like on a couch or chair. Doesn't have to be lewd.
not hard to do
I actually never did talk shit about their art.
again someone who is shit, but I haven't pointed it out till now
They can color, but their lineart is shit, drivers yadda yadda
It's mainly his time being here compared to the results
I could RIDE that nigga to the ground with their art and I've done so to their face.
Don't open that can of samefaced worms.
Haven't shitted on his art.
I've never seen anything he actually worked on, so I don't know what his limit is.
His doodles are fine I guess???
They are doodles and I only see his /b/ shit so I can't judge it.
here, it's not supposed to be a problem. it's the same conditions i had been raised here under, minus the shitposts. it's got to be of some good, giving the new guys confidence to at least start out; to not feel left out because they fail to reach some specified standard.
so, i'm left not caring. and i believe its better that way, no matter anyone else's opinion.
Make a list and I'll do it, I have no problem giving my late night opinion on shit.
When the fUCK did I say I never shitted on anyone??????
I seriously don't know, man.
>Hmph, quiet down, the Moths and Sheriff have made you soft, you have the blood of a dragon like your father, my father an I will raise you to be the perfect assassin.
But what do you feel about the "drawfags" who were never pushed to be better and pretty much have become stagnant?
They're sinking hours into a hobby that they dont/wont even care about but intend on joining a community of said hobby.
I also dont consider this an argument.
probably more on the line i'm just terrible with compositing. i've always failed to think of the best way to proceed with things in time, so I just feel the need to run with what I think would do nicely anyway. it comes to a right bloody artistic roadblock then.
seemed like a pretty heated discussion when it started.
i've already said my opinions on such people. they're all fine here as long as they don't make things worse for everyone else.
That is not me saying I don't shit on people, that's me asking a list of people I shit on.
Learn the difference.
The other issue is that I don't have a standard when it comes to someone's art, If someone wants help I'm more than willing to give it to them, you geriatric fuck.
Didn't you have me filtered?
Gotcha, these are gonna take awhile.
>They must have left tracks... Aha! Sherriff! If you had no hand in this, then back me up! I've found tracks!
I like their art and it has a cute style to it, I can't really dissect it because they've learned how to properly stylize anatomy.
He's got like the same body type for every drawing, it's like Chibi stuff, it ain't bad it's just what I see.
Making that furry dosh, can't shit on someone who gets paid money and is actually good.
new purple right?
Put them in the pile of "Ech" because they are around and they're not the best, BUT it looks like they are working on it, I guess??
PC2.0, they are emulating the style nicely and it looks like they know what they are doing at times.
Literal nothing artworthy since how long ago?
He can pixel art, that's really it.
I've seen thread doodles, nothing that they've worked on.
Ech, I can look back last year and it looks the same as now.
He wants to binary and get better, and he is getting there. He has a mixture of style and they all work with what he is drawing.
You said that I SAID I didn't shit on people.
It is baseless that you think I ever said I didn't shit on people.
I think the real point is saying someone sucks or doesn't suck in a draw thread is ego centric. Drawfags of any level of skill come here to fulfill requests of people who can't draw or like to see their idea in another style. If you want art to live up to a certain standard then commission it for yourself and critique it all you like. If not then maybe keep your elitist and smug opinion of something that has little to nothing to do with you to your self.
They're fake. They made them to distract us, I know this kind of technique. They only broke the window and left these to make it look like they were amateurs.
>Ah, you don't even know because you keep your fluff combed down, that's better. Now show some respect to your uncle and be quiet.
He's gotten better, but it's just stangnant at this point and it's just general anime. Not bad, but I just think "DA anime guy" whenever I see his stuff.
Again another anime, but even MORE so, they aren't bad, but I haven't seen anything they worked on.
He can draw cars and anime girls very well. I have seen his finished car stuff and I can say that it's his best stuff.
They are stagnant since 2012, they haven't gotten better and anything that they "worked on" is just colored shit.
Paper doodles or thread doodles, that's it. I've seen one thing that looked like it was worked on and it was still just meh. As long as the guy continues to draw and improve instead of doodle the same shit over and over he'll get better.
Futa-cat thing, they understand anatomy and they can draw, but at the same time it's just something that is there and doesn't really pop to me. haven't seen anything they have worked on.
Same face and same body isn't the same thing.
If every single character has the same face it makes them looks like clones.
if every single character has the same body because his style is chibi-like it isn't an issue because his male and female characters don't look the same.
I'm putting my "hate" and connections to people down when I'm doing this.
Tohma hasn't improved, I have had third parties look at two pieces and they can't see this improvement.
I mean, if you only come here and practice and not practice off threads of course you're not gonna improve much.
> Drawfags of any level of skill come here to fulfill requests of people who can't draw or like to see their idea in another style.
What if the drawfag is literally on the level of the person whos requesting though?
Like I doubt the people who got their request done by signghost didn't comeback and request it again for no reason. (I've seen this happen about 17+ times since I started lurking here. I'm not even joking)
Nor do those people really request from them since they apparently dont want to see their requests in those particular drawfags style. Unless theyre requesting for the sake of requesting though.
I've also not shit on them for not being able to draw but for not putting in any effort.
>A throat needs slitting and I don't know where to lay the blade. If you know this type of thing, help me. For my girls sake.
>Tohma hasn't improved, I have had third parties look at two pieces
He's been working with Vic and actually drawing hands and full pieces. Is that what you bitched about a couple months back.
He is good on paper, but doesn't work on anything on his tablet.
I wish he could bring that traditional skill into play, but it seems like he can't. He just needs more of an understanding of anatomy and clothing, but he's getting there.
He haven't worked on anything that I have seen lately, but he got a big wad of money from commissions so I mean he's gotta be good to get such dollas.
Third parties implies that they aren't connected to myself or tohma in an artistic way.
I'm not dedicated to shitting on her, I'm more so dedicated to show people how not to turn out, and how not to be as stagnant as a glacier.
>been working with Vic
Y'all keep saying this BUT I ain't see it, and I'll wait TILL I see something to change my opinion.
He took random requests that were sitting around in threads.
They say thanks once hes done but come back the next day or sometimes even hours later directly asking someone else.
They never came back a second time.
No, you will stay here and protect Butterscotch, I will handle this alone, it is not your concern anymore.
That's why some drawfags get more requests than others.. if some one says "I'm taking requests" it's the requesters prerogative to either take them up on that offer or not. You shitting on them in the case that you are not asked for you opinion.. you just feel the need to impose it on some one, makes you look like the aforementioned self centered egotist who gets off on feeling superior.
>slight break for comments
I do this to plenty of people actually.
Knowing art friends in your actual life is bonus I can tell you.
>I don't practice
>I have a life/job
OoooOOOOOOOOOOOh boy get that out of my face.
>If they wanted her she'd be gone by now too. -My- kid got kidnapped. Its a pretty fucking big concern. Lead on.
Decent artist, has a long way to go still. Needs to work on color and anatomy a bit more.
Good artist, has a firm grasp on her own style and characters. Also needs to work on anatomy.
Decent artist, has a lot of potential, but hasn't done much with it. Needs work on color and anatomy.
decent artist, very good at socializing with the anons, though that doesn't mean anything artwise. Needs to work on color.
Good artist, though it would be nice to see more realisim from him. Should experiment with more coloring techniques.
Good artist, has a firm grip on color and anatomy. Not a very likeable pesron in thread but that doesn't contribute toward art.
Good artist, has a firm grip on her character and their personality. Needs more color work.
decent artist, decent grip on anatomy and color choice. Still needs some work in both areas though.
Good artist, good grip on anatomy and a firm grip on color. Needs a little work with faces.
Good artist, Good grip on his own style and anatomy. Haven't seen colored work.
Haven't seen enough of their work.
Good artist, Good grip on their style and characters. Needs some work in color.
Good artist, Has a Good grip on anatomy. Haven't seen colored work.
Good artist, Firm grip on anatomy and color.
Decent artist, Has very solid linework but needs to expand character desing. Haven't seen color work.
Good artist, Good grip on style and a decent understanding of anatomy. Haven't seen complex color work.
Good artist, again has lots of potential but doesn't do much with it. Needs some work in coloring.
Good artist, very firm grip on anatomy and color. Would like to see them venture outside of the anime style
eh artist, loosley understands anatomy. Haven't seen colored work.
Good artist, very firm grasp of anatomy and color. would also like to see less anime style.
Great artist, master of their own style with a great grasp on anatomy and color. 10/10
Decent artist, a lot of potential. Decent grasp on anatomy, needs work in color.
Good artist, firm grasp on anatomy also very fast. Haven't seen colored work.
decent artist. Needs work on anatomy and color.
decent artist, has potential. Needs to clean up linework and work on anatomy.
I'm not sure if this is the ruby I'm thinking of.
Good artist, frim grasp on anatomy and color. would like to see more realism from them.
He's went from Phone janky looking mother fucker to someone who understands anatomy and can correctly use the canvas as a camera.
He's got abit of same face with some of his pieces though.
They know how to draw cute animal people, but humans are tough for them, though they are going for more anthro so I mean they are at least learning some form of anatomy.
I've seen some of the stuff they work on, but like it isn't something I would commission to see "Real work".
They have a mix between chibi and doodle style for over 70% of their work.
Anatomy and can draw some great shit, coloring needs work, BUT he's one of the greater drawfags in this community in this moment.
I honestly don't know who this is.
He has really improved from the start and is still going, but I haven't seen anything he really put time and energy into.
Cool art and nice looking stuff, can anatomy, color and is generally nice to see their stuff. Easy going style too, not much to dissect.
I did too but I sometimes asked why he never put any effort towards practicing and improving and he says he doesn't care enough to put in effort.
>You shitting on them in the case that you are not asked for you opinion.. you just feel the need to impose it on some one
You're losing me here.
I'm honestly asking and asking again why is it okay not not put in any effort here or push people towards putting in more effort.
It's honestly like joining a community of chefs but spend the majority of your cheffing career boiling rice, while the other Chefs around you are working alot or at least a little to improve in what theyre doing, but you still want people to call you a Chef.
Lambchop is the person who draws the loli sisters
Carne is Lindy
Mothbro is literally in the thread
Stockholm Dad the futa vampire
Daria the tomboyish freckled lady
Lil is the ponytailed girl with a mask
DOS was the red anime girl with horns
Avvy you'll know them when you see them
Rin theres 2 the witch and the ghost
Synth is the blue angel girl with a cat on head
Cherry is the purple girl with stubs
If there is a constant demand for rice in a community of chefs who will never know one another.. let them make rice.
you call it pushing them to be better, while in actuality it's imposing your unwanted opinion. If someone asks you for a constructive critiqe and you give it to them... that's helpful. If you feel the need to give them your critique when they are just here for casual fun, you're only satisfying your own ego.
Drawing is his job, I've seen his stuff and there is no complaints to be had, he draws in red so no colored work has been seen.
I don't know if this is X or catfox.
They can paint and can come up with okay character designs. They have an understand of anatomy but they need to work on their faces, it's usually a mess to look at.
Has been stagnant but I haven't seen anything they have worked on before. They have that anime style you see in highschool books, or that is at least the closest thing I can compare it to.
They can anatomy and they have a sweet looking style, one of the ones that kinda pop abit more than others. They just gotta work on coloring and more actual pieces and they'll get there.
Great animations, haven't see that much colored work or actual pieces, but it looks like they have an understand of what they are doing, even with the chicken scratch.
Red demon bitch.
Lemonz is a moe hoe.
Oh, than they can doodle. That's it.
Is this the shit on Avvy thread?
Honestly, Avvy is the worst drawfag. She does nothing but draw the same pose, she doesn't even know how to anatomy, her attitude is shit, She never draws requests, her linework is shit, I could go on and on about how shit-tier Avvy is as a drawfag.
She seriously needs to stop drawing because obviously she isn't getting any better, having over 1000 drawings under her belt, and the amount of progress she has made on drawing is extremely tiny.
I'm not that anon, but. The way people choose to do it here is not productive. Most of these new age drawfags are not /b/ tards, they're usually tumblr tier faggots and shouting at them isn't going to make them improve or practice.
You can have the person in the kitchen making a tenderloin or something and the others making rice, but shouting at the ones cooking rice as to why they can't make tenderloin isn't going to work. Everyone has something different to contribute and sometimes it takes more than others.
I think if you read through most of the feedback and put aside people being cunts, a lot of people here don't work on anatomy or practice at all.
Kinda agree with >>605677311 a little bit. But there should be a little push to improve but people come off as forceful or "you improve this way or you're shit". Although I disagree with >>605676043 ">I don't practice
>I have a life/job" people have to make the time to practice if they want to gid gud, but if they don't leave em be.
>She never draws requests
Technically incorrect. Some anons for some reason like her and do get avatar related requests filled with her.
Also, if we look at time she has drawn here for less than a year but Ranzick has much more time on him.
Now, stay here and stay out of my way, this is my problem, more so than you know, if you get in my way again I'll put you in a full body cast.
Well not everyone here is seeking a job in art either, some people come here to just have fun or warm up. Don't know why we have some many people being elitist like >>605677311 is saying. It's fucking /b/. If it even resembles a pussy it gets saved.
>Avvy is the worst drawfag
>her attitude is shit
>She never draws requests
What the fuck am I reading?
But there is none. ANYONE can make the rice since they didnt try to practice any better dishes. So they give them the rice that they didnt ask for and they come back specifically asking for Soup, and no other Chefs say "Hey, shouldnt you try to make a little more than rice, you're spending a little too much time here doing only that dont you think?"
>after 20 minutes of crying, Mothbro is ok.
Get mah babby back.
They SHOULD be doing this with the ones they complain about so much. And >>605677494
shouldn't be bitching about Avvy unless you're actually trying to help them.
Several people try to reach out and help others, I also believe Punk tried to help Eva. But they just don't follow through. Eva didn't practice and Punk didn't keep giving her lessons.
People here are artists, they all have issues, hate their own art, some come to hate drawing because they feel bad about their art.
This is a community of artists that is never really been set on helping people improve or on art, mostly because there is no follow through or drive. It's easy to make lists and call one another shit on thread, but it takes effort of 2+ people to actually motivate and give good feedback.
They need to work on anatomy and they need to color more things for me to really dig into it.
They have nice line work and an understand of anatomy, haven't seen anything with more time and energy put into it or anything with color, but I can assume it ain't gonna be shit.
I have seen their doodle stuff, nothing that they worked on. They get anatomy and that's all I can say because that's all I have reallllly seen from them is thread doodles.
Fast as fuck doodler, and is psycho so I've seen stuff they worked on abit more. I like their stuff and they have a grasp on anatomy, coloring, and have nice linework.
I've just seen thread stuff and DC stuff. They have an understanding for anatomy and is quick to when it comes to drawing. I haven't seen anything that they actually spent time to do.
Has improved since he started and has a general understanding for color. Can't really say too much because I don't really look at his stuff enough to dissect it.
Anime and has the ability to draw anatomy and nice like work, require help to color.
>Why would I join a football team if I'm not gonna try my best at football?
you either pay to join a football team so you can get good at it.. or you're good at it so you play to get payed. ever hear of touch football.. you think someone who casually plays touch football would last 4 seconds on a professional nfl field? nooop. do people pay to get on art threads to learn from these self appointed masters? nope.. do they get payed for casual work? nope. thanks for proving my point for me.
>People here are artists, they all have issues, hate their own ar etc.
What are you even talking about?
How many times do have repeat the word Effort, wtf.
>They SHOULD be doing this with the ones they complain about so much.
Im asking why they dont. For most of the thread even.
>>Why would I join a football team if I'm not gonna try my best at football?
Marc is right in this case but you're not going to get that out of people, especially tumblr tards on /b/. They've had to come to the cesspit of the internet for a reason to draw, they're probably emotional or depressive trainwrecks. Don't forget that you can be really passionate about art but still draw like shit.
I also guess this is kind of applicable >>605678701 >>605678721
But if people are going to complain about other peoples art, why are they not donating that time complaining to actually working as a group and drawing together, helping each other? Isn't that a better use of time than whatever goes on here?
I brought up that the good ones or the mediocre ones should be helping the ones who are newer or need the help. I suggested to them to do challenges together on thread or via skype or just wherever, exchange, redline, repeat. I suggested that shit months back and nobody wanted to do it.
>time for comments
>but it takes effort of 2+ people to actually motivate and give good feedback.
No it doesn't it requires one person who can say the right things and isn't too harsh with someone when it comes to their art.
If someone wants help they will ask for help, if they don't then it is their own fault.
>people have to make the time to practice if they want to gid gud, but if they don't leave em be.
When someone says " I WANNA GET GUD" and other people think that person is gonna get good, and so you spend your time and energy on said person and they remain the same it isn't only the waste time of one person, but the person who wanted to help and see improvement.
Why would you join something if you aren't going to try your best at it was my point, but it look like you expanded and went for the touchdown.
Again, there isn't much of that when you have people trying to pull the rug under each other and pull shit behind other people's back.
I will have to ask him tomorrow.
>working as a group and drawing together, helping each other? Isn't that a better use of time than whatever goes on here?
What if I told you I tried to do this.
What if I told you the response was "Not everyone wants to improve?".
because that would be exactly what happened.
Man thats not as bad as i was expecting!
Do you know a good easy colouring/shading tutorial pic? I wanna do colour stuff but... i've never really dabbled with colouring before.
You're cool then. I'm literally saying why people arnt being you right now.
Why are people just watching the guy come here everyday and make rice and not saying a thing about it?
Do they just not concerned?
I know this pain.
These, you might need to sign up for pinterest though, but it's worth it.
>What if I told you the response was "Not everyone wants to improve?"
>We aren't all as helpful
That's beyond depressing. Even if you're not that great at art, no, hold up. Let me give you an example.
You get some of the lower/mid tier artists in a group or on thread. Maybe Fud, Eva, Mothbro, and Sheriff working on something. Even if Fud only draws stickmen and Mothbro scribbles, I'm pretty damn sure they could help Eva in telling her what she's fucking up.
I'm one of the people who draw badly in this community. And I rarely approach people, but yeah, I guess they can make lists and tell us how bad we are and tier us but they don't want to help.
Then you're part of the problem.
I wasn't saying that. My point is, there was a point where everyone actively tried to help others improve. I know that I give my advice and any help that I can when I'm approached for it.
>why are they not donating that time complaining to actually working as a group and drawing together, helping each other?
Thats what I'm saying.
You dont actually hate her do you?
You're just shitting on her for the sake of shitting on for the laughs arnt you?
>It didn't take you long to find me.
You've never been able to hide from me, brother. Was making me killing Red not enough? Give the girl back.
4chan. people who like furries, loli, gore (my comma button is broken and hard as fuck to make work so just pretend they are there.) anime hentai rule 34 rape. jokes. rape jokes. fucking with feminists. debating very well as well as poorly and every damn thing in between come here.. especially to b. if you want everyone to live up to your standards... this might not be the board for you.
These are faults that I need to take strides to take.
With the paper to tablet thing I just sputter and shit half the time but I have been improving. However I never have anything I genuinely want to draw, Which crosses with "if I dont enjoy it I wont do it"
Anatomy is something I feel like I've had a understanding of but not an entire grip for, As for coloring its all just shades of brown even when i put my salt to the test
Any tips on improvement since you're here?
First, I'd like to say I don't think I'm that bad at art. But, I'm still discouraged about giving advice. The reasons being that I'm not good at giving advice in general and the results are never obvious enough to encourage me to do it more. Oh, and the last time I tried to give someone advice they referred me to /ic/.
I've seen people recently refer to catfox as berk.
Noted. getting myself off of the stabilizers at the same time I work on steadying my hand. I'm down to 8 now with my pen brush, all other brushes are at 0.
a irrelevant year old drawfag
its not drama though, its criticism on drawfag's art.
He's trying to human anatomy, but I'm almost certain that improving in drawing is the farthest thing from his mind at times.
Anime, that's it, it's the top of any anime style I have seen in threads. So they can draw anime stuff and that's all I have seen.
Anatomy and coloring is fine, linework needs work, but I see that it is just doodles
>judging a guy who used to work for Disney
They look stagnant on a line standpoint, but their coloring stuff is good.
I have seen stuff he works on and it just looks like his style with more detail.
He can lineart and anatomy, rare times to see color from him
Doodles and is "learning" but mostly really isn't. No anatomy, no color, or lineart.
>MAKING ME GIVE THIS TO YOU FOR A FIFTH TIME
just scroll to the bottom and you'll see the stuff to help you with colours and the stuff at top for anatomy.
Like I've said I don't have standards, as long as you try it's fine, but don't say you are trying when it is obvious you aren't trying to get better.
That's who it is?
Nice lineart, nice coloring and have a generally fine style. They are growing like the rest of us.
No you were on a list.
I'm not sure where you draw the line between what some people want /b/ drawfags to be an /ic/. I think most of the community people are content just hanging out and being friends, not that there is anything wrong with that, I guess. It's all mute point.
>These are faults that I need to take strides to take.
Starting to think I'm on something
If you think you're in a position to critique anyone then you have standards. I'm not saying that's a bad thing either. Just don't expect anyone to live up to them as if it's an obligation. I actually think if someone says they want to get better.. and you give them sound advice or guide them in the right direction then you are a gift to drawthreads... but if they don't ask.. and even if *shudder* they don't want to improve.. then either let them or sound like a smug elitist bully.
messy linework, but when he slows down and takes his time he can come up with some nice looking stuff.
Haven't seen anything colored from him or something with anatomy.
Looks like they are drawing a pony face, I haven't seen anything they have worked on that isn't a circle on a rectangle.
Abit better than Avvy
She's got a nice way of coloring and nice looking linework. Anatomy is great other than the saggy tits she draws that scares me.
AND THAT'S IT OF THIS LIST.
>Want /b/ drawfags to be an /ic/.
If you want to improve than you have to do whatever it takes TO improve, if you wanna doodle and enjoy your time, go ahead, but this is /b/ and someone's gonna shit on you eventually for not being at their standard.
>If you critique you have a standard
Well shit actually I guess so?
Also I give people advice when asked upon and I ain't gonna just shove shit into someone's face if they don't wanna get better.
then how about this
> hey I'm Marc, I think your art is interesting
> and I see potential. Would you mind if I gave
>you a few pointers to help you improve?
> you suck, that's shit, you just scribble.
oh shit didn't scroll up
>lineart is shit
>they can color
it used too
Its just someone criticizing other people's art thats not drama, thats giving a criticism.
even though thats true, that was....kinda quite a few months ago anon
and it was a bit different back then.
Shits over now.
I guess that sounds better, yeah. But it's not really the kind of reaction most people get. It's not even just Marc. A lot of the 'better' artists are aggressive too. Problem I have with Marc is that his standards are high for someone who still isn't that great himself. He improved quite a bit, but not so much he can be an elitist. He's about average for his time spent here.
Doing what I'm doing.... Welp I don't know if I really consider it a style myself, So I'd agree with you in saying it's messy, because I'm manly trying to draw fast enough so the thing I'm replying to via avatar image is still somewhat relevant. When I started this I was actually S-7ing it the whole time. That was bad. It really is hard to judge solely on the /b/ scribbles, but I suppose it does give somewhat of a perspective
Guess it's longer still till I can lower the stabilizers again
I have, and when I did everyone was in my ass whenever I redirected them for information on how to get better.
I also don't think of myself as "So much better" either.
I ain't gonna give someone a helping hand if they aren't looking to improve.
I stopped trying to look for potential and rather help those who seek it.
I could go back and rate it like IGN.
Hold up, I haven't shitted on enough people to be thinkin' about myself on some sort of pedestal. I'm one of the people who shit on my own art the most, hell shit from two months ago makes me cringe because I know now how much I could have worked and improved it.
If it ain't no sweat on her back it ain't no sweat on mine.
That was a while back ago, for fuck's sake dude lmao
Many many many people have shitted on me before
But key word: before.
Besides that the bad blood between me and marc is completely over and basically
this, ALL OF THIS^
What? I'm just saying, whether someone gives Positively Reinforced critique or Negatively reinforced critique as long as its critique you shouldn't worry. Take that assholes help in damn stride.
But if someone just insults you for the sole purpose of insulting you and not telling you why, that's what you ignore.
Don't believe that shit about stabilizer being a crutch. You have no reason to be at zero if you're still shit scribbling. You start at something above the 'S' range and you slowly work back down. I told Sal this, I'm telling you this and I told at least three other people this.
You don't need to be a hugbox but you need to be a less negative person and you might get better results. What, you been here a year plus some now? People don't respond well to you obviously for some reason or another. But you're right, don't go out of your way to help those who don't seek to improve, but then don't go around talking shit either.
Then my message to you (whom I have never seen bash art personally, just heard about it) and anyone else that feels the need to "shit" on peoples art keep your opinions to yourself unless someone seeks them. the difference between following this advice and not (for everyone) is being helpful or being an elitist jerk who's petting his own ego.
You mean more people coming to me asking for advice or?
Because if so I'm okay with the 4-6 people who ask regularly.
I'm a year plus and know shit from the past and read a lot about a lot of drawfag shit and drawing shit yes.
The rest, Dah I agree.
I ain't petting my own ego and think "MUAHAHAHA THESE PEOPLE ARE WORSE THAN ME", because I know where I am at artistically and I know I have ways to go. I also have said I don't mind sharing my own opinion on how I see someone's art. If someone would like to listen to it they can if they think it matters to them. If it doesn't then they won't read it.
You mean this entire fucking thread right?
I'm saying, whether you got tolerant or not. You being harassed for not being able to draw didn't help you. You got upset, you were emotional, you did nothing.
Until you got over it. And you still do nothing. You were not motivated or changed by being told you were shit, just like me telling you that you haven't improved isn't going to help you. You have to WANT it.
This is why I said for "everyone" not just you.. and also pointed out I personally have never seen you bash anyone. Think about it though.. you think that reputation just fell out of the sky?
but i just got here!
me? effort? nah
not my thing
considering the amount of time i've been here, nah~
but i don't practice much anymore
or put effort anymore
i lost interest i guess~
>you think that reputation just fell out of the sky?
It ain't surprising, since I created the original list of drawfags, and I am the only one to fill that shit accordingly with my honest opinion of them.
Though I am glad I have a rep that even I didn't know I had.
Could I get a picture with Sterling Archer from Archer and Nonon from Kill La Kill in this pose?
>Not being able to draw
anyone can draw anon, the thing is
"can they draw well" Its the same shit, when someone says
You can't drive
anyone can, can you drive well is the problem.
>You got upset, you were emotional, you did nothing
Everyone is like this.
Especially when they're passionate about something, they get emotional when you tell them they suck, because pretty sure in the back of their head they know they suck and they hate the fucking truth.
>still do nothing
what do you mean i do nothing?
I still draw, i still doodle, people got LIVES man outside of the internet.
>You have to WANT it
Of course i want it, but im not going to improve at the rate you think i am.
Geez, are you taith? Cause taith was telling me this exact shit and he needs to go fuck off, dearly.
I still practice, every day. Just cause im not on these fucking threads or don't have fucking drivers doesn't mean im not going to improve, may hold me back but so what.
I'm going to be real and honest with you, and I hope you'll read it. But if you don't that's okay.
You're one of those people who shits on yourself the hardest and then tries to reflect the same thing back on other people hoping they'll say 'hey, I'll show him'. I really don't think you're this boogeyman they talk about and I don't think you hate people just because.
/However/, I do not think all of your intentions are good or well thought out otherwise you wouldn't continue down the paths that give you such a bad reputation here and you wouldn't treat certain people badly on a constant basis. ie. that whole nonsense with Espec people go on about.
You sound like somebody who is really hard on himself and you could take that and be really useful to people if you would stop treating this place like a joke and the people who exclude you or do not meet your standards.
I spoke to you when you were trying to do the Adventure Threads, and you saw how well that worked out. You need to work on your image here because you do have a lot to contribute if you weren't so willing to play the villain because it's convenient to you. >>605683301
Until you and a few others do that, and a few people put on their big boy and girl panties nobody here is going to get better and threads will fizzle out again for a few months more.
also, im not going to care about what some random fuck over the internet says about my art honestly.
You don't mean nothing to me, and i don't mean nothing to you, thats the way it is.
I need to start restricting picture dialogue to greentext. I know you're joking but it's a bad habit tbh.
Don't worry about it too much, it's just a drawthread on /b/, it's not like you need to devote all your skill into your work, we're just her to have fun.
I don't project any of the hate for my own art onto other people.
I'm an asshole who loves to hear himself talk 90% of the time and that's is where the "bad rep" comes from since I talk too much, but that isn't gonna stop.
>Stop treating this place like a joke
If I treat it too seriously I'll be all pissy whenever the "quality" drops.
I'm not willing to work on my image because people who know me personally and obviously you seem to know it too, know this is mostly a facade. That doesn't mean what I say or how I say it are lies, but no one can be THIS much of a dick within their actual life.
Sure I should be more "open" to new people, but I got my three month rule before I even start to care about who's who.
GEEEENNNERALLY what I'm getting from this is "Be less of a dick, see what can happen" from this entire thing though.
Eppakkuu Heiruuuu Geeiiii
I kind of think it would help. Difference is you act like a dick and force it way too hard. I can act like a dick passively and people still suck my cock. You make it look personal even though you're really being sarcastic. It's just kind of sad seeing you stuck in this cycle, you weren't like this last Feb.
Of this year??
Because like, I'm pretty sure I......was the same?
but if you're message is "tone that shit down", I could see how that goes like renting a car, if this shit breaksdown or I crash it, I go back into driving the asshat mobile and driving in the turn around.
Art ego and my opinion aren't the same.