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>>606004311 I think there might be something to the theory of Panspermia. So life could spread through space as bacterial spores. If they landed anyplace with liquid water and a chemical energy source , maybe they could get started. So life in the deep ocean of an outer planet moon is possible I guess.
Also OP, I have deep hopes for Europa but it's not that likely that there is life. It's a very cold moon, so it'd need some strong volcanic activity to have some liquid water somewhere. And if it's kilometers deep below the icecrust it might not be stable enough to have originated life. Also if panspermia it's pretty much fucked for europa. But we have very little understanding of how life originated so there is hope.
Mmmm. Nah i dont think so. They dont even know if there is liquid water there. It is pure speculation.
I watched video about how they came to this conclusion and the astro-geo-physisits based it on the idea that an elliptical orbit could compact and distent the crust (ice) enough to creation heat to leave water under there.
While i understand the 'heating up a squash ball' theory they've come up with behind it, i think applying that on a planetary scale is retarded. We still know so little about astrophysics and how planets/life works, and these fools are drawing massive conclusions from literally zero data, just speculation. It equates to religious people talking about god in my opinion.
If there is life on Europa it will most likely have the following traits:
1) It will resemble a giant squid. Europa has a planet-wide ocean under all that ice, so any hope of amphibian-like, mammal-like, or reptile-like life is void. Squids on earth are among the most powerful creatures in the ocean.
2) It will not have eyes or any photo-sensitive organs. Jupiter being is a long-ass way from the sun, coupled with the fact that there are miles of ice above the water man there will be no light. Hunting will be entirely dependant on echolocation or net-like mouths catching anything in its way.
3) A food chain beginning with plants is possible if there are ocean vents releasing the chemical compounds needed for chemosynthesis.
4) It will, without a doubt, be repulsive to us. Open a new tab and Google 'deep sea creatures'. Go ahead and look at those ugly fucks. Those are so disconnected from what we hold as usual and natural, but they're still earth animals. Life on Europa will be infinitely more foreign to us, and we will have a very difficult time looking at them.
What traits do you think Europan life will have, /b/?
>>606007202 I agree anon. Even a trace would be amazing just for the implications. I use the term disappointing to encapsulate the opinion of the probably quite numerous chucklefucks who won't be amazed unless we find something that looks like it escaped from pandora. If it was bacteria, most of the news would be trying to drive home how important that actually is for the cud chewing brain donors who'll be wondering where et got to.
I... I'm starting to think 4chan has made me a wee bit cynical in my opinion of my fellow man.
>>606008477 I understand the science perfectly. What part of how i just explained the possible presence of water there was incorrect?
I just think their THEORY (bearing in mind thats all anything is) is too far fetched for me. Sure it'd be great if it were true, but i do no believe there is liquid water on a planetary body so far from the sun, without some evidence that isn't pure astrophysical speculation. That is not science. Science is defined as a applicable theory that is repeatable. Seeing as we don't even know if its applicable in the first place, and its not really repeatable, its not scientific fact. Just the speculation of a few blokes.
>>606004311 I would imagine so. We already have life on here that is completely disconnected from the sun living by thermal vents. I assume the same could be true here. A more likely candidate for life would be Enceladus actually - check that out.
>>606008739 The food chain would probably begin with chemosynthetic bacteria-like organisms I would think then build up from there. What about water pressure that far down (Depending on how deep it goes?) That would probably have a big effect on the shape / makeup of the organisms
But a planetary body that far from the sun. with essentially zero atmosphere and no (Theorized) solid moving core is not going to have liquid water on it at any depth. I'm sorry but in my mind its not logical to speculate that gravitational forces alone are going to allow water to exist.
I understand the idea. I just don't think all of the other aforementioned conditions would allow this to happen.
Thats the opinion you were told by an animation on a youtube video, and that's the one i formulated from the evidence i saw.
>>606004311 I can only hope in this universe there are gods. God's like our wildest dreams. Not this microbial shit. But gods in the sense of the elder gods, shit like bosses from video games. Like cthulu or gravemind. Some massive challenge for the human race. Only then. only when humanity is again faced with a challenge of cosmic proportion Will the advances some of us pray for become reality. Humanity needs strife. It needs conflict. That is why we are in a technological stagnation. The day hell fire rains from the sky's or a deep threat emerges is the day we see some shit humanity could only dream of. Or we will exist long enough and eventually become these gods. But by that point or bloodless will be so un controllable and primal,I fear for the rest of the universe and humanity itself because we will become the nightmares we've dreamt of. TLDR all of nature and biology and science dictates that we are the evil in the universe.
>>606011598 I liked it I was never a fan of the "found footage"style, but it was well executed here. It was a slow burning thriller that was tense and fun to watch. Also, possible space aliens are cool too.
>>606011527 you need to research further about giant squids from the depth, the food chain they feed on is not build from ocean bottom volcanic activities. deep see furnaroles are very small ecosystem with very little evolved animals.
>>606011926 saw it in a theater, twice. It's rather good indeed, but I expected much more of it. A lot of small let downs that ruined the whole thing. Also they skipped a lot of very interesting things (the black scientist that spends 20 years waiting for them in a small ship, you don't learn much about his experience because he dies a few minutes later like a piece of crap) to make room for retarded violin heavy american clapping like the completely ridiculous happy ending or all the eye watering shit going on the maiz farm.
>>606011430 All it takes is one country (the US or China) to get total control. Science has really only just begun. One nation WILL eventually have an end all be all the makes everything else obsolete. In the same way nukes changed the world post ww2, the next break through if used immediately will create unification through force or whatever. Quantum computing?
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