>Cars have 3 pedals
>Oh Europe, you so silly
Why the actual fuck do Europeans use 3 pedals???
that third pedal on the left is used to pump oil into the engine so that you can go faster. If you're on a long stretch of road and want to push the car to it's highest speed potential, then all you have to do is pump down on the pedal as much as you can and feel the crazy acceleration. I'm surprised they don't have these in america
>it makes driving better in every way
Demonstrably false, you have to deal with another fucking pedal.
>you have never driven a car with more than 200 horsepower at the wheels and with a manual transmission
Why would you ever want to?
>Europeans have 3 legs
>Japanese have 3 arms
What do Americans have?
Hey OP... You got one.. And he's a big one
I drive a manual and enjoy driving it but you are wrong. It is not more economical. It was decades ago but new automatics are more economical and faster than anyone with a manual.
>ITT People who have shitty cars who don't appreciate the "FEEL" of controlling 300 plus horses(horsepower) with the combination of multiple pedal pressure applications while having the dexterity to move a shifter physically 2 cm that produces 2 times the torque at the flywheel
with 8 speed plus autos maybe but for 6000 CDN $ fuck that shit. On a lease I can save 4 grand over the life on thing like jeeps and any nazi car make
pps how will 8 speed an above auto transmissions last without being fully tested for rranother 5 years
>Engine brakes+brakes is better than constant acceleration+brakes in an emergency.
Engine braking doesn't help you to stop any quicker.
Driving an automatic is NOT driving. At all.
American here. I went out to buy a car and there was a really good deal on a beautiful car that needed a clutch and was manual. Had never driven manual.
2 months down the road and my eyes are OPEN. I'm never going back to automatic. Also if I see a nice sports car and it's automatic I can't help but laugh at the waste of car.
If you can't drive manual, you CAN'T DRIVE.
Think it's funny when people are impressed by burnouts btw. Like literally any manual car and you can sit in a burnout til your tires are fucked and beyond.
If they had to "fight the engine" then you'd have engine braking when you released the throttle.
You're not too smart.
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Exactly. Manuals are just for tryhard faggots to do burnouts and rev all day long with their shitty 3" exhausts because SOMEHOW in their heads that's 'cool' and 'manly'. Outside of a worksite, 4wding and race car driving, manuals are a pointless dick wagging showoff dinosaur waste of time and evergy, not to mention an unnecessary distraction while driving.
This is coming from a lifelong manual driver who just can't be fucked pretending like it's any good any more.
>European pretending to be ignorant of standards to make other people look like idiots
>Makes an obvious jackass of himself
Who's the real moron here?
>Unironically liking the Shitsubishi brokenin3000GTways
Mhmm. A blender is much more fun.
Those issues were not as common in the later model VR4s. But you are mostly right. Too ahead of its time, the tech it was paired with was too idealistic for the time and rarely worked properly.
>Bullshit. When I'm stopped in an auto I have to keep the brakes on or the car starts accelerating on its own.
>implying the gearbox and torque converter are set up to behave the same way during braking and stand-still.
>implying power from the engine affects your braking in any way during an emergency.
Unless you've failed to maintain your brakes, the limiting factor in stopping distance is tire traction, it has nothing to do with the engine.
"MY CAR CAN PARK ITSELF"
I would never, in a million years, buy a car with that feature, or having bought one USE that feature, or having used it ADMIT to it.
Dumbasses can't parallel park. Give me 4 inches extra and I can get my car in a given space.
1. Pull past the spot
2. Turn wheel right
3. Reverse until almost touching curb
4. Correct steering to straighten out and continue backing
5. When out of space go straight forward toward the other car
6. If you're close enough to the curb park. If not then turn the wheels to the right reverse correct steering and repeat 5.
SO EASY A FUCKING COMPUTER CAN DO IT.
There are some maneuvers you cannot even do in an automatic!!!
Overrevving for additional acceleration
Underrevving for additional economy
Not relying on a hit/miss robot to shift for you!!!
It's like fucking training wheels! Fuck automatic!
>Not as common in l8 model
Yeah, once they killed all the cool things about it. No active aero = no care.
I'd buy an imported GTO as a 3rd or 4th car maybe...
>And what about it, to you, makes it that way?
I already made it clear.
>I wouldn't even be arguing with you if you hadn't stated your opinion as fact in the first place.
My opinion is fact. Get over it.
Yeah. In America. Laziness and convenience reigns over quality and power. I'm so lucky to have got one here.
I could understand having an automatic for your wife or child. Or simply an A to B piece of junk.
But not something you enjoy driving and have to drive often.
>Have fun with struggling to have meaningful relationships in the future, narcissistic pillock.
Why would I struggle with that? I'm right and everyone agrees with me.
why is an american security feature installed on a european car?
Automatics are shit but you're wrong on quite a few points.
Preselector + get initial revs by standing on the brake.
No idea wtf that is.
>Overrevving for additional acceleration
Stand on brake and rev.
>Underrevving for additional economy
>Not relying on a hit/miss robot to shift for you!!!
By the way, using the exploits I mentioned will wreck your auto gearbox pretty quickly.
>Jeremy Clarkson anti-doppelganger detected
i got a 93 stealth tt, vr4 motor
We in the US are an oligarchy of the rich which is even worse.
>pick R or D, red or blue, the two candidates supported by millions of dollars from the private sector for their campaigns
>BTW both candidates represent the private sector and their opinions almost overlap on PoliticalCompass
>Le american reverse psychology troll
I don't understand why everyone thinks this about Americans. I drive standard, my dad drives standard, hell, almost everyone in my inner and extended family drives standard.
Yeah it's more fun when you actually WANT to have fun, but for everyday driving it's basically the same.
>>yeah its a fucking migraine, but it beats stock sti's, i'll never get rid off it
>Not sure where this stereotype comes from.
You're probably a Redneck, more of them drive stick.
The difference is that where "most" you know drive manual, nearly all UK drivers passed their test on manual.
You must drive manual in the test to get a manual license, if you use an auto you can only drive auto. About the only people who take the test in auto in the UK are the physically disabled and the extremely incompetent (mostly women).
I don't know anyone with an auto license.
>Overrevving for additional acceleration
>Underrevving for additional economy
An Auto box will always be in economy mode. (unless you have/use power button / gearbox adjustments)
>By the way, using the exploits I mentioned will wreck your auto gearbox pretty quickly.
Drifting and burnouts in general can be hard on any box. There is nothing wrong with presetting 2nd gear and using more rps (Withing limits) or engine breaking. Most large sedans have a 'power' button that does just this, mainly for towing.
Fucking assisted drive features are bullshit. My car doesn't "do" anything driving-wise. I am the fucking driver. I don't need the car to shift fucking gears for me. I don't need it to park itself. I don't need it to stop itself if I come close to an obstacle. I don't need an alarm to warn me while backing!
My only regret with my car, which you would describe as a feature, is it has ABS. A complete utter waste for people that know how to brake properly.
The three biggest obstacles keeping drivers from getting a feel of the road and the ability to drive properly are ABS, automatic teansmissions, and power steering. Although I understand power steering as it is easier to implement power steering than to properly build the car so that it's not needed.
America is the entire continent murifag.
You are thinking about "the United States of America", also known as USA. That's just a country in the northern part of America.
Speaking of America, do you know what else is a continent?
>America is the entire continent murifag.
That's wrong though. North America is a continent. South America is another continent. Together they are known as the Americas.
Is Eurasia a continent?
i dont give a fuck where the eagle flies
No, you fucking can't. Either you misunderstood several of the things I said, or you have 15+K to spend pointlessly on a luxury sports car that has several different computer systems integrated to achieve the effects possible on even a very old manual that doesn't have an on-board computer.
>Overrevving for additional acceleration
I interpreted him as meaning from a standing start. Not sure about sports autos but the one I had wouldn't rev high enough for maximum acceleration from a standing start unless you revved it up with your foot on the brake.
Most of the disadvantages people list can be overcome by understanding your box but I'd still take a manual any day.
The thing I liked about the auto I had was that you could do about 60 mph in reverse.
Americlaps too fat to understand what a constitutional monarchy is.
Quickly, someone spell out figurehead with cheese spray so the lardos can comprehend!
>That's why we invented everything you use today
Bloodline rule, with the parents' advice and the people's input, is most ideal. The fact that they're not going to lose power for any reason takes the politics out of government, education, and dealing with foreign powers. No hidden motives behind their actions. No shady deals and seemingly pointless actions taking place because some superPAC promised to help them get re-elected.
That depends on who you ask.
I my country (Norway), there is no "Americas". There is only Amerika. Sure, you can sub divide it into Nord-Amerika, Mellom-Amerika (the middle) and Sør-Amerika, but the continent is Amerika.
I suspect this holds true in a great many countries.
It would make a lot of sense that muricans are trying to seperate themselves from the rest of America and claim the "America" word for themselves, since they've misused it for so long.
But anyway, bottom line: Europe is not a country, and neither is America.
>My only regret with my car, which you would describe as a feature, is it has ABS. A complete utter waste for people that know how to brake properly.
ABS nearly killed me back in the 90s. I was braking quite hard on a downward slope that had some gravel scattered on it. Fully expecting to lose some traction however, ABS got confused and thought I was on ice, "tick tick tick tick tick", overshot the junction (60mph limit, single track road) and luckily nothing was coming. Pretty scary experience.
Open your fuse box and pull the ABS fuse Anon, it disables the ABS.
>There is only Amerika
Norway is wrong then.
>I suspect this holds true in a great many countries
If so, then those countries are also wrong. It's clearly two continents.
>It would make a lot of sense that muricans are trying to seperate themselves from the rest of America and claim the "America" word for themselves
We don't need to try, we already have. Tell a Canadian that he's an American and see what happens.
>Europe is not a country
>neither is America
Incorrect. It's understood to refer to the United States of America.
Actually in English, no matter what region, America is generally understood as short for "United States of America". "American" generally refers to someone or something from the US. What you call Amerika, we call "the Americas", because we divide North America and South America into separate continents. Just thought I'd help you out.
All my cars have had ABS and I have a couple friends without it.
I'm the best driver among us, so I always drive whoever I'm with. People like my driving.
So used to my ABS blinders, I skid like fucking crazy at first without ABS, then after awhile I remember how to brake. It's a little embarrassing.
People braking hard, or braking too much in turns. If only they could see their ABS going NOPENOPENOPENOPE
a traditional automatic can do anything on that list other than the last one. though a manual can do a couple of them better
and the last part is only half true because manual valve bodies are a thing
Definition of America in English:
1A land mass of the western hemisphere consisting of the continents of North and South America joined by the Isthmus of Panama.
>1.1Used as a name for the United States.
In English we sometimes use the same word to mean different things. We generally expect the person we are communicating with to be familiar with context.
They normally are if English is their mother tongue.
Correcting native speakers of a language foreign to you will seldom end well.
Europeans all know they eat tacos in Mexico and burgers in Murica, whereas a murican can't even tell they speak different languages in Portugal and Finland.
Wtf do you mean "the template your government is based on"...
You realize the founders of murica drew their inspiration from France, right? Checked the colours of your flag lately?
Heard about something called "the age of enlightenment" (ok, you might have missed that one)... Voltaire, does that ring a bell? How about Democrit?
this reeks of ricer
some douchebag has dumped too much into some FWD fagbox and tries to show the internet how elite he is because he has a manual transmission and pulled his abs fuse
though i pulled my abs fuse too so i cant say he's all wrong
who cares about either of those countries or their languages anyways? theyre not america so they dont matter. feels good to be on top. i bet they have shit tier food at both those places anyways so you have to come to america to get a good burger or mexico to get a decent taco. pretty sad you have to travel half the world over for something to eat
but he's correct on the first two
[good] automatics shift faster than you ever will, they continue to transfer power mid shift, the power loss is trivial now and easily made up through other benefits, they're stronger and they generally do get better mpg because despite loss of power to the torque converter when not locked up, they're better at being in the most economical gear than you too.
as for perfect shifts, well im not sure what the perfect shift would even be, they shift reliably and predictably
I am allergic to ricer.
I have dumped nothing into my car. It's all stock. Replaced the alternator, battery, clutch, master and slave cylinder, all suspension components... with stock parts. Considering performance brake pads, definitely getting performance windshield wipers and Rainx.
The only "edgy" thing I'm thinking of doing is tinting the windows to give it a little privacy for the girlfriend and myself. Also I would like to letter "silver bullet" down the side to complete an inside joke with this girl at work.
Voltaire was born in 1694 dipshit.
A bunch of European immigrants decided to claim murica for themselves 70 years later, inspired by his ideas, and all of a sudden you refuse to believe french enlightenment philosophy was a european invention?
>I hope the fuse solely affects the ABS and the diagram doesn't say
It won't be shared with anything like that since it's a safety system.
You can even install a switch to control it.
the single, solitary, only advantage a manual has over a semi-manual or traditional planetary automatic in this day and age, is simple fun factor
either, or usually both, of the other types have beat out the regular old manual in every other way. Strength, economy, shift speed, control, whatever, it's been outdone.
except for cost i suppose
but fun factor counts for a lot so they endure
African Americans are africans. That's why you have KAHWANZAAA!!! or whatever it's called.
You can't compare your history of a couple of hundred years to a continent that was all white already 10.000 years ago.
>You must drive manual in the test to get a manual license, if you use an auto you can only drive auto
I fucking love that about the UK, btw. Also, I'm not exactly a redneck, can't really stand them at all.
Abs/radio/windows/locks/power steering/lights/indicators/fag lighter/interior lights/power seats/power mirrors/active aero/4WS/4WD/boosting/engine breaking/donut control.
Bet that's what the fuse does.
Itt: People don't realize almost every single Drag car is an Auto.
It's called a trans brake, Its about the only way to build boost in a forced induction car off the line.
It's not only a faster shift, its more fluid. But mainly it is 'consistent'.
Just look at the Veyron or a Brabus, consumer level manuals can't handle 600hp+
There is zero advantage to a manual besides throwing a P-plate on the car and slamming second gear as you leave McDonalds.
Until you reach actual race level machines, the manual / auto debate is redundant.
-Inb4 Mah 20year old nissan is so gud
what broad sweeping generalizations, i had no idea you'd driven every transmission made before 2007
but if you think there's anything your manual can do that a manual valve body TH400 or 4L80 cant do better, other than having a clutch pedal, feel free to share it
>imported a few scietists from Europe
Mfw they were Americans and invented in and progressed the country in America for Americans.
You silly dilusional britbong. If it was European scientists who did these thing, how come they didn't do it in Europe for their European country??
Silly me, thought it had to do with strict drug laws, poor government support, fucked up sentencing, horrible prisons that don't reform people, living with the constant thread of being shot, pedo hysteria and stuff like that.
Because of WW2.
You sat on your fat american asses for the first part of the war, and the Axis never really attacked your land. So at the end of the war, you could basically just walk in and claim the spoils. Also, your business profited from fueling the war, and you were a safe haven due to your geographical location.
Einstein, Bohr, Turing, Heisenberg, Fermi, Planck, Curie... Yeah, sure, all the great minds behind modern development were murican.
Check it nigga.
Also, in South America, "Amerika" is generally taken to mean just what I said: The continent.
You are just sucking up to yourselves when you define America as USA.
Motherfucker, I drove a '67 alfa romeo with a blown clutch, shot synchromesh, and a busted guibo (the fitting that aligns the transmission to the gearbox). It was practically undrivable. You had to shift it by getting the rpm's just right while winding them up to momentarily align the guibo, and then just gingerly feel those fucking gear walk from one gear into the next, & dip the gas for a sec to let em slide in and punch it to catch up to the torque. After years of this, I got so good at it I could shift fast and smooth as dolphins fuck without even using the clutch. It's theft proof. No one would get past the end of the block if they tried to steal it before crashing it into something.
So when I bought a second car for a commuter, I wanted something 1, 2, & 3, reliable as a battleship, 4, comfortable and 5, mindless to operate. It's a fucking 4runner limited, automagic.
It's so fucking nice I never even drive the Alfa anymore.
> dominate superpower
Of what? you haven't won any wars, You education and health systems are a joke. you have niggers on every corner with guns.
Seriously, the rest of the world either see america as "Fat lazy and rude" or some little down syndrome kid we all tip toe around.
>check it nigga
"America usually refers to:
United States of America, a country in North America
The Americas, a landmass comprising North and South America"
Silly Europoors, disproving their own claims.
Britain did this.
It should have never pumped USA up with all its money during WWII, and bought fucking supplies from fucking China instead. Chinas rise & domination is inevitable anyway, and it'd have kept USA as the poor nation of uneducated farmers it was, instead of nation of uneducated farmers with all the British Empires fortunes.
We act this way, because this is what our country is. A hundred million of your own rednecks, but now with all your money.
This shit is fucked up man.
You spend a fucking FORTUNE on war, you invade countries all the time, you kill MILLIONS, you always pick fights with people who are so poor they can't defend themselves... And you haven't won a SINGLE fucking war!
We see you as horrible war mongers in international relations. You're the bully. Luckily a pathetic one.
Fucking dumbass. America usually refers to the United States of America IN the United States.
To everyone else in the world, including all other americans, we look like the egotistical nutjobs every time our idiotic politicians refer to United Statesians as "All Americans", because there are about 75 other countries full of people who are also americans to whom our particular brand of bullshit does not apply.
Even though we try to make it apply via claiming the entire hemisphere as ours with the insane Monroe Doctrine that'll lead directly to us getting our asses nuked to fucking smithereens in the inevitable WWIII.