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I have been smoking every night since the age of 13. Yes, I was a stupid kid and a stupid teen, but I'm pretty sensible now. In fact, I work part time whilst I study. I am 80kg lean and can bench 90kg for 3 sets. I am a better person for smoking cannabis, and will undoubtedly smoke for the rest of my life. You're either a troll, or a fucking idiot. I think you're an idiot.
>>607669508 I used to smoke as well, that's where I'm coming from. It had a major impact on my learning, reflexes and social life. It ruined my life in a lot of ways. The studies back me up on all of my statements. Do you not feel the slightest impact on what weed has done to your ability to function?
>>607669924 It has never affected my social life, I have a handful of true friends, and a great variety of acquaintances. It does affect people differently though, so don't rationalize something simply from your experience. It doesn't change how I learn, I actually become more interested when I have a smoke, and I know a great deal about science, at least a lot more than the average Joe. Studies are complicated, because, like I said, people are affected differently. I think if you're already depressed and have a lot of issues, then you shouldn't smoke it, just like you shouldn't drink or take any intoxicants while depressed. But I am extremely happy with my life, and I have come a long way, which weed makes me appreciate that much more.
>>607670495 I see, thank you for your opinion. Honestly, I'm not against weed at all (I'm completely for), but I have experienced major waves of anxiety around it. I just wanted to hear the worst of the worst by trying to agree with the doubts, and hearing them being combated. OP is a faggot, but thank you.
>>607671905 How come I go to the gym everyday then? How come I wake up nice and early to cook myself breakfast, get prepared, dress smart, go to college, go to work. How can I do these things if I am supposed to be lazy and burnt out..... Last time I drank alcohol, I couldn't eat properly for two fucking days. Now that is something that affects you.
Weed turned me from a awkward nervous kid to a normal kid in highschool, and then into a pretty cool well adjusted adult in my 20's. Trust me I know it isn't healthy and i'd strongly reccomend cutting smoking down to once or twice a week, but if you can function well and have some self control it's a great way to chill out with your bros and make friends.
>>607671905 Dude I have a lifting regimen and I jog everyday while smoking a fuckton of weed. If anything I've noticed my breath control improved from constantly trying to keep in smoke as long as possible. I even looked it up and found a study supporting that. If you vaporize itll pretty much elimanate that concern as well
Ok so i smoked weed for the first time last night, got so horny thart i went to take a shower ended up fingering myself in the ass, what happend to me? def not wabt to smoke again, my anus is hurting so bad right now :(
>>607673000 Nice trips man but honestly like idk why it just came to my head while i was showering i have a girl we fuck almost everyday, i never ever thoght about that till yesterday after smoking a blunt
>>607672450 and you would have improved a fuck ton more if you did all this without weed >I even looked it up and found a study supporting that. If you vaporize itll pretty much elimanate that concern as well I can find a study supporting anti vaccinations but that doesn't mean it's 100% proof you retarded faggot
>>607673163 A pussy that could lift far more weight than you, and could easily break your jaw. True definition of a pussy right there. >>607673640 Weed isn't a drug, friend. Calling weed a drug is like calling caffeine a drug, you are pure inbred.
>>607673934 >Calling weed a drug is like calling caffeine a drug Indeed my friend, indeed. Drug: A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior.
>>607672248 This, I used to be a complete +5 autism. But weed helped me ease into social situations (not just a smokers session either). Acquired GF, discarded virginity, and made a bunch of new friends with a new wave of confidence. Not saying this is because of weed, but it helped me into that by easing anxiety and allowing me to talk to people without fear of saying something dumb.
Those people person traits in turn allowed me to become better with customers, and in turn become promoted to my stores manager. All of which I'm proud of myself for. Weed helped me
Caffeine Drug Caffeine is a central nervous system stimulant. It is the world's most widely consumed psychoactive drug, but unlike many other psychoactive substances, it is legal and unregulated in nearly all parts of the world. Wikipedia
>>607675123 That's not my point, my point is that weed is so weak that it's not classified as a drug in standard life. Somebody wouldn't go to a cafe and say "Hey, look at all these good drugs." Whereas someone buying cocaine and sniffing it would say "Damn those some good drugs."
>>607675426 I dont smoke everyday. Nice argument man. I dont have a physical need to smoke. I go days between sessions usually. Now people who drink coffee literally get headaches and anxiety without it
>>607676079 This, I stopped taking caffeine and felt 10 times better, I slept better and felt more at peace. But since then I've started taking it again, it's just too addictive and I've had it in some form all my life so it's hard to quit.
>>607675275 Technically speaking yeah, caffeine is a drug, but what he is saying is that caffeine isn't looked at like a drug in the public eye. Why? Because its socially accepted that caffeine is a normal substance consumed by a majority of the population. Weed is also becoming a majority thing too.
Drugs: First thing that comes to mind is coke, herion, pills, meth.
Drug is a word with a stigma, so while these substances (THC, Caffeine) are drugs, you wouldn't normally call them drugs, because A LOT of people use them. Its becoming social norm
Tetrahydrocannabinol is just a drug like any other. that makes it neither good nor bad. Its how people use it. It has moderate pain reducing capabilities. As a stimulant it replaces the neurotransmitter responsible for coherent thought, though this effect is usually mild. Thats why people who are effected by it think that their ideas are the best ever and when the come down they can't figure out why they thought that. It basically makes you think less while fooling you into thinking you think better. Hows that for fuckin with your mind?
It has a lot of uses for reducing neuropathy in diabetics and vomiting from chemo and the like.
It has its place, but like alcohol, it makes you stupid while you're on it and you think you're a genius. Really, its no different than alcohol and should be regulated like it. Though I do worry the tobacco companies would get ahold of it and pack it full of other shit.
If its making your life great, you might want to look at your life critically and find out what you are escaping. Personally I dont buy any of that shit about working out and such. An active pothead....riiiiiiiigght. Mostly I dont believe you because you are getting so defensive. Potheads will defend their over use to the end. I think it should be available to everyone with little regulation, but just like with alcohol, there will always be those who get stuck on it. and they by definition will not admit they are.
>>607678067 its similar in its effects on your thinking processes. what's different is with pot you are lucid and with alcohol you are one step above passed out. even when you are walking around.
I have been high. and drunk. they dont feel the same. however the fact still stands that under the effects of both you are more stupid than when not. a very few people, some with true adhd can benefit from it since it slows them down enough to focus. but there are other medications that do that as well that wont get you in as much trouble (from doing stupid things not from cops)
the enjoyment comes from it taking away you cares. you dont care anymore. everything is good. smooth. but again, that is escape.
>>607678930 Weed doesn't make you stupid. Sure you say retarded things but you still have inhibitions and blocks in your actions. Being drunk completely eliminates those. No one i know has ever gotten into to fights, raped, be generally loud or destructive, or make retarded decisions when high
Absolutely hate weed. Cannot relax on it and I get way to paranoid and fixate on the dumbest shit. I love pain pills though but I get way to sick. when I take enough to get a good high I throw them up. Was thinking about trying cocaine. How addictive is it?
>>607679645 no, they go "hey hey I got this really great idea. the best idea ever. I have totally figured out Einstein was wrong. see the universe isn't round. its shaped like a fish. see? its perfect, makes sense right?" note-this actually happened
does this sound intelligent? or does it sound like someone who THINKS they are being brilliant?
>>607669045 No more so than alcohol and thats legal. Just treat weed like alcohol and its all good. All the states that have legalized so far have seen no increase in teen usage. Teens who want to smoke weed will smoke weed whether its legal or illegal.
I don't smoke weed but my neighbor does, his house is joined on to mine and he doesn't work or study he just gets drunk and smokes pot all day every day for a living. It has gotten to the point where our house is starting to smell like a grow room and everyone that visits is disgusted, the smell is everywhere even outside.
He is an ex bike gang member and the first thing he said to me when I discussed it with him is that he'd have me "dusted" if I ratted on him. It's been 8 months since then and I need a clever way of telling the cops without it pointing back to me. any ideas?
>>607680494 I would assume you both have accessible meters. Watch his power consumption, if it is much higher than yours he's probably growing. Report it to the cops and then you can reasonably say it was the power company.
>>607680405 so what, he just came up and that rolled out of his mouth with any thing like that going through his head? if you are saying that, you are thinking it. he had to actually come up with that somewhere. and he was totally convinced of how right he was. we couldn't convince him otherwise. the next day he couldn't remember why he thought that was so important or where it even came from. but he DID think it. and no, he wasn't stupid normally. at least not THAT stupid
>>607680745 he went to prison for weed charges years ago, that's why hes so afraid of being caught again. apparently if he god caught he'd be in the real shit. I just cant care about someone that threatens my life aye.
I'm a Civil Engineer, I smoke frequently. I manage to pull down 75k/yr, and I'm a responsible smoker. I only smoke at home or when I am somewhere for a longtime. Here are the only reasonable arguements against weed: >inhaling anything that's combusted is dangerous >we have no idea if vaping is safer, just assumptions >there is no way to accurately tell how imparted a driver is, we can roadside test his functions, we can tell how much weed has been in his system, there is no accident test >we have not done any longterm studies on the actual effects of marijuana; comparitivly we know the long term effects of alcohol are horrible. >our experimentation with condensing weed (wax, high potency edibles, pharmacuticals) is taking something harmless and making potentially dangerous substances. Smoking weed has never killed someone, Marinol has. We are doing what they did when they turned coca into Cocaine.
>>607677677 And who are you to say that their lives aren't better? Have you lived in their shoes before or after? Can you prove that they are lying about becoming fit, social, anything else positive weeds done.
>>607669045 i agree. weed is a hard drug, it may not be physically addictive but its psychoactive effects more than make up for that. it assassinates your willpower. ive never met a stoner with his head on straight. even meth heads know that they gotta do productive shit and quit asap, but i know 30 ear old guys who smokin weed and still talkin about how they have a "great new idea" thats gonna fix their life
>>607679645 I don't know what shitty weed You're smoking, but that shit makes you stupid. I don't care what you say, when you're high, you're fucking stupid. Not a bad thing, but stop making it seem like you smoke and you're completely normal.
When you're high, you can't focus well, you forget shit, and you zone out
>>607683528 Fuck no man i dont like man in any type of sexual way im bot a fag but did kinda enjoyed fingering my ass, what am afraid of is taking it too far to the point where theres no return like inserting items and shit
>>607683915 Just cos you only mix/know or have met useless stoners is more an indication of the circles you mix in. If you worked for a law firm and the couple of lawyers that smoke or vape weed, they have no willpower or ambition?
too much of anything is bad for you. the people who weed ruin are usually people prone to addiction and substance abuse in the first place so even if they avoided pot, they'd probably find something else to fuck their life up with, whether its another substance like booze or something stupid like internet addiction.
for the average person, getting caught with weed in a state with strictish laws will have worse impacts on their life than the drug itself. plus since weed is illegal, buying it puts you into contact with other generally illegal things, most of which will have a bad influence, but is outside the scope of the drug itself, once again.
lastly, ive been smoking pot regularly since i was 13-14 years old (27 now) and i am gainfully employed, have a gf, am buying a house etc. of course personal anecdotes dont mean much, but for the record, i'm not some 420-blaze-it douche.
>>607684084 I used to find that when I mixed it with baccy or burned it. Now I vape it's a totally different high. What zones you out is, 'setting fire to shit and breathing it in'. Never gonna be a good idea now is it?
>>607684469 fair enough, im sure their are plenty who use it and can do something with it. personally ive just never seen it. im not against weed i just find it alarming when people pretend its not a drug. i dont contest what you have said at all tho, sir.
honestly, you were probably kind of a retard to begin with, and you're just looking for a way to rationalize what a failure you are. no no, it cant be you, its definitely the harmless drug you ingested many years ago.
>>607684770 I've caked as well, man. It still gets you high. Being high on weed is always generally the same, no matter how you intake it. Don't get me wrong, I used to love smoking, zoning out, and playing a video game. I just hate when people try and say that it doesn't effect them. It's a fucking drug, if it didn't fuck you up some way, why would people do it.
>>607685022 Why not, a bloody pink sock could be just what you need to reach total nirvana, or beter yet, sentience. Don't knock it until you try it. You liked the trailer, might as well watch the movie.
>>607674895 you are clearly autistic and can't differentiate between colloquialisms and dictionary definitions. One would not say that they are "picking up some drugs" on their way to buy some coffee beans you fucking candy ass roody poo. But if you are talking technically obviously caffeine is a psychoactive drug.
>>607685743 This is what im talking about, wanted to try smoking cuz ive seen post on b where ppl talk about how good it feels then ppl talking about prostate massage anus stimulation and shit so i tried it, i think this is my last time on 4chan...
according to the CDC tobacco is responsible for over 400,000 deaths per year in the US. Weed few if any deaths. More people die from caffeine and aspirin overdoses. No weed is not harmless and it can worsen or trigger mental illnesses in some people. But its in no way worse than tobacco.
>>607688207 Never seen someone crash a car because they smoked too much tobacco. Granted tobacco is bad, but i've never seen a third party die due to the incompetence of someone who had too much nicotine.
The results showed that compared with controls, marijuana users had significantly less bilateral orbitofrontal gyri volume, higher functional connectivity in the orbitofrontal cortex (OFC) network, and higher structural connectivity in tracts that innervate the OFC (forceps minor) as measured by fractional anisotropy (FA). Increased OFC functional connectivity in marijuana users was associated with earlier age of onset."
Are those some positives, we don't know do we, w're just copying and pasting shit we don't understand.
>>607688634 Ok then , lets make everything that could make people crash a car illegal , including alcohol , pills that might cause drowsiness , solvents that might be inhaled and of course lack of sleep which causes many car accidents.
I was a manlet but smoking maruianas made me taller and gave me like 11 girlfriends and a degree in doctor and i am now a milyonair i fly a helicopter i have a mercedis and a bigger house then you fuck you op
>>607669508 Conversely, I have a roommate who smoked up until about 2 years ago when she stopped. During the period she didnt smoke and was in college, she was a straight A nursing student, happy as all hell, productive, and more confident. She started smoking again recently and has failed two classes and will fail this semester too, is dating this complete retard who bleeds her dry, and spends what little money she can mooch out of her parents on weed.
Most times, I think it depends on who you were before you started smoking. If youre dumb and unmotivated, youre going to become even more fucking dumb and unmotivated. If youre smart and productive, than it'll have either no effect or make you even smarter. I dont think this was the case for my friend, however.
>>607690075 I've noticed this as well. Getting high these days sends my anxiety through the roof. However just a small hit makes me chilled out and better than normal. I miss the days where I could get baked and not give a fuck, though.
>>607692526 Yea mate, if I was a spinless cunt looking for an excuse why my life is shit I would blame the weed, like most of the wankers I grew up with. I dumped those wankers though, not the weed, my life is fine AND, my mrs takes it up the ass. I'm happy.
You've been lied to. Cannabis is not the end of the world. It's way older and way safer than alcohol, so unless you want to either go back to Prohibition or make peace with being a hypocrite, it's time to let the 'weed is bad' thing go.
>>607694895 >The results showed that compared with controls, marijuana users had significantly less bilateral orbitofrontal gyri volume, higher functional connectivity in the orbitofrontal cortex (OFC) network, and higher structural connectivity in tracts that innervate the OFC
Less volume but more connectivity could just as easily be described as a streamlining effect. I would be interested in a repeat of this study, to see if their results could be replicated.
>>607698190 After the age of 27, you lose brain mass continually for the rest of your life. It doesn't translate into functional differences. Arguably the increased connectivity could make the lost neurones irrelevant.
>>607701448 "The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world." - Carl Sagan, renown scientist, astronomer, astrochemist, author and TV host
>>607699934 The point is that the loss doesn't matter. You're born with more brain cells than you'll ever have again. Most of the first five years of life are spent pruning back the amount while reinforcing useful connections. The reinforcement makes the extra, unused mass unnecessary. Quality is much more important than quantity. If cannabinoids really do increase connectivity, this would be a bonus, not a worry.
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