So I've astral projected for the first time yesterday.
That was fucking amazing!
Why is this not widely spread?!
People need to know about this thing!
Anyone out there with similar experiences?!
As in figure of speech.
1.) Lay down, helps if your body needs sleep.
2.) Relax all the tension in your muscles. Go from body part to body part to copletely relax your muscles.
3.) Keep your attention and focus/consciousness, do not drift away into 'lala' land aka dream world.
4.) Once completely relaxed, vibrations will come and possible sound effects. Some say this is SP (sleep paralysis).
5.) When vibrations fade away you find yourself with a floating feeling.
6.) Different techiques exist on how to exit your body, I just rolled over and found myself in my room standing next to my bed looking at my face.
7.) Go on from there.
I didn't believe this shit at first my self, but this is beyond anything I ever epxrienced.
Again, totally sober, no drugs involved.
I would call you an autist but that is literally what I unintentionally do every night. But once I get to step 5, I feel things grab me, hear loud voices, or see creepy imagery. Am I living the plot of Insidious?
my mother says she can do it on command.
i used to be able to do it as a child. i have a very vivid memory of being able to fly around in my room. i would climb the tallest piece of furniture, and glide all the way across the room.
i since lost the magic but slowly regaining it. i hit sleep paralysis for the first time about month ago. heard the loud buzzing in the ear and felt the complete lock down of movement and control. i frightened myself awake sadly.
ill keep trying though. peace and love brothers
DONT. I WANT TO TRY THIS DON'T MAKE IT FUCKING SPOOK
>Hopefully what I see when I'm in da dream world
See, this anon understands. I cannot prove it, it could be just my imagination, but it was trippy as hell. Totally amazing.
Ehm, if you can get your body to sleep mode in broad day light, why not. Some people do this during their afternoon naps I've heard.
Once you''re on 'astral plane' as they call it the concept of space/time disappears. You actually move with power of thought. Say you're in your hometown at first. You can 'teleport' yourself in matter of miliseconds to say Japan or whatever.
It takes pratice at first. I only did it once, last night that is. I just walked through my house and cisited near castle we have on a hill. Then I woke up.
I'm hooked now. Defo trying this gain.
I'm not familiar with that plot.
That's the way to go. Those sounds are the transition of your brain activity into sleep mode. Yes it gets scary, if you let it to get scary. Your brain is actually just checking if your body is sleeping or not. If you move, you wake up, if you don't and push through, those will fade away.
Keep on trying brother! You'll get there! Peace and love!
Ok you've got me interested. But I would like to know, is it spook. Like what If demons try and get me. I say this jokingly of course, but on a serous note, I don't really feel like having a nightmare where I can actually control it. 10/10 would heartattack
And what about stimulation, feelings, hearing and such
You are about to enter a world of demons.
Everything will seem fine the first couple of times, then you will have that same feeling you get as if someone was watching you.
You dont belong in that realm and they'll let you know you're not welcome soon enough.
The kid astral projects and gets his body stolen by evil spirits,etc. Great movie. Terrible experience. Always a yelling man and always some scary rattle like noises. Fuckin hate it. Sometimes I experience it once a day for a number of weeks
op must be a fuckin meth junk on crack
>That's the way to go
yeah bro. been realy interested in this shit for a while now. meditating helps activate the 3rd eye which allows easier access to the astral world. everyone hurry up and activate that eye and go meet long missed loved ones already! cant wait to me my dad. i never met him.
Well I did read through a lot of material. They say out there there's a lot of stuff you should be aware of.
But the rule of thumb goes like this: TRUST YOUR INTUITION.
If you feel certain thing/deity/object/person/whatever is harmul, just go somewhere else.
There's this stuff called 'spiritual guide', but man ... I did it once, I still don't believe in anything those people say.
I'm only experimenting.
Iv been doing this my whole life OP! Keep it up! Any answer you want to any question you could ever have can be answered while on the astral. Its a step towards true enlightenment, keep up the good work! Im able to willingly float outta my body while fully awake and aware that im doing it. It takes practice and THE WANT to do it. All those tibetan monks living in the mountains? Their learning how to leave their bodies and go to the astral to commune with their leader and learn. The ultimate goal for astral travelling is achieving enlightenment, so keep it up and never fear ANYTHING.
I meditated ... sort of.
I did focus on relaxation at first, but later when I was completely still and vibrations came and different sounds I focused on those. Once they faded away, I was there trying to 'exit my body' as they say.
just remember you are in control of your consciousness bro. whether it be in the astral world, our 3rd dimension, or the 5th dimension when you die.
protip, the 5th dimension = death world. any thought will instantly manifest itself into reality.
when you die will negative memories haunt your afterlife creating your very own personal hell? complete with every fear, insecurity, and trauma youve ever experienced instantly manifesting itself to you?
or will you know how to let the love flow through you. the acceptance of the grand nature of reality. thus creating everything you love, cherish and hope to be right before your very eyes?
the choice is all up to us.
i envy those who get to practice through astral projection
I've heard fighting them as you fight the bullies here on Earth helps.
Nothing can hurt you, if you're a warrior of light.
However, some turn to the dark side ... That's whole another story.
It is great but as You can see to many of us are just to fucking stupid and ignorant.
>protip, 5th dimension = astral world
correction, my bad.
if you have enough love flowing through you, you can manifest deceased loved ones with only your memories of them. a real heaven.
I've been lurking on this for months. Perhaps been trying on and off for about a month, but not every night/afternoon. When I felt like it.
Ehm, I guess it's in colour. At least my room was. :o
Hmm... ok. And when you were laying there did your body itch in random areas to see if you were awake? How were you laying? I've heard you have to have your hands by your sides, not your chest
Well I was once like the majority.
Spiritual growth?! FUCK THAT AYY LMAO
But now, geez ... It's amazing. As that other guy here in this thread says ... Love is the answer to anything.
As 'gay' as it sounds. No offence to gays of course. Just a figure of speech.
Twitching = Brain checking if you're awake. If you'll scratch it, you'll return to everyday stealth mode. If you ignore it, you'll push through.
And yes, they say laying on your back, hands beside your body should do the trick.
But there are people that can astral project sitting in a chair or laying in whatever position. It's matter of practice I guess.
Sounds like sleep paralysis. Yes it is scary if you let it be scary.
Protip: Youtube: sleep paralysis sounds
report back if it was something similar. D:
Actually when You speaking "Love" in this context You dont mean "hollywood/shitbooks/movie/ect" kind of love. You mean an energy with very high frequency.
dude color is only the physical manifestation of emotions in our 3rd dimension.
take that idea with you to the astral world if you like, or not. up to you. literally everything in the astral world you encounter will be of your own creation. that is the beauty of it all.
You might see 'demons' or 'the devil' when you enter sleep paralysis. That's just your brain tricking you for whatever reason. I say it's the transition from everydayawarness of the brain to more, I don't know, chill mode I guess.
Again, nothing can hurt you, if you have strong intention of love and iamgine yourself glided in bright light. I heard that helps.
makes me sad to see that our planet earth is governed by fear.
but it makes me happy to know that i govern myself with love. and thats all i really need
Can't really remember what it sounded like. But yeah, I think it was sleep paralysis too.
And it is not a random thing. It is by design.
This is what scares me and what I never understood. How is a mere projection of someone I love heaven?
I don't care if it looks or behaves like the person I loved. It's not her. How is seeing her, knowing she's out of reach and might be for all eternity heaven of any sort?
Its like The Old Mysteries teaches. When Mob rules world is ruled by ignorance. When religion rules world is ruled by prejudice. When state rules world is ruled by fear.
i know that this works and i imagine brain thinking you are sleeping, doing dream shit, but you are wake so it mixes with reality
i get that
but im unsure to try it
are there any health risks?
can it fuck up your heart or something, when you are asleep , your body is full with sleep hormones and shit and you are awake, can it do any damage to you?
once not high or anything but i went into someones house until i was interrupted by the dog lunging at me and when I went to see if this place existed in real life and the same dog was there kinda gnarly considering how far away it was
Of course it is. And ridiculing Truth is one of the many methods for Mind Control
Your breathing actually slows down.
Your heart rate might actually pick up for a brief moment.
As far as my research goes, no, this cannot hurt you physically. At least no reports of such occurances exist and seemingly lots of people pratice this.
because when you die it will be your permanent reality. you will not come back to earth. you will stay in this astral world with your projections. after all, you are only a project of someone else man.
dont you know we are all the universe observing itself?
if you pass on firmly believing these people arent real. what will your consciousness think of to inhabit this new 5th demension you are living in? if you are lucky you will be born again to simply experience it all over again. hopefully with a better outcome this time.
or you could stay there forever in your own personal little hell. maybe become someone demon or something.
Yep. You can do an experiemnt like that on your own.
Say you ask someone in your house to hide a colour pen under a box.
When you astral project you go and 'look' under that box.
Once you wake up you comfront your friends with the answer.
There are a lot of reports of such test on the internet. Quite amazing to say at least.
that thing is upside down.
hidden knowledge creates all the bad and good in this world. its up to humans to bring it into the world. unfortunate, earth lives a life of greed, ignorance, and fear. so thats what we get to coexist with.
just wondering also OP the colors all a sort of gray that you would only see during a lunar eclipse you know where it is really dark but it is daylight; the only thing I can relate this to is moonlight during the day?
No it is not. It is just a tip. Those on the tip projects down there those fucked up things and those things goes down.
No. Ehm let's use my experience from last night
I was in my room then visited nearby castle on a hill.
Everything had a spark to it. A brighter, more beautiful textures.
But it wasn't all the same though.
Quite an amazing view to oberve actually.
I envy you, my friend. I have tried many times, yet I never get the hang of it.
Problem is, that I never remember my dreams. I'm either awake or asleep. Sleep is like total darkness to me.
how long should it take to get to SP?
occasionally trying it, but after about an hour immobile it gets pretty boring
Most i got was to the point of hearing clear voices and sounds, any tips?
No. You see what is the tip of pyramid? Another pyramid. So You have on the tip of the tip Dark Occultists who use hidden knowledge to project designed states of reality. But they dont have power to reach all of us, so they create struture of hierarchy, fragmented and project this down. And this piramid is just a tip of a bigger piramyd.
Are you taking drugs, do you smoke, do you drink?
Through my research I've come to conclusion that in order to achieve 'higher awarness' per say you have to live 'healthier' as in as less toxins as possible.
And since especially drugs and stuff are toxins ...
I dunno ...
Also, if you do not remember your dreams, I suggest you research lucid dreaming. Which is scientifically proven in comparisson to astral projection.
You'll be able to remember your dreams, I promise!
I have list of like over 300 books in line to read. Currently The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly Palmer Hall - i recommend
Many of us first visited the astral plane as children. Once we're governed by modes of control, for instance through routines, most of us stop doing so consciously. That said, it's an ability everyone and anyone is capable of. It doesn't require special training, though it can help. It doesn't require special knowledge, though it can help.
The astral plane is all there ever is. It frightens the best of us to the point of total obliviousness. The most extreme pleasure, love and sense of belonging exist in that sacred zone. Yet, the most horrid sense of dread is lives in it as well. Truly, there is nothing to fear, but when we enter we undoubtedly find ourselves questioning the choice to enter.
If there is any point to this post, it is to communicate that the highest truth and the highest madness lie in the shoreless space of astral consciousness. You're free to wander its limitless solitudes without friend or comrade, forever. You will be a meaningless thought - the only existent thought, and by your nature inextinguishable and indestructible. And in that state of consciousness, you will know that to be the truth. Outside, it's merely imagination speaking. Imagination without the realization that you are all that truly is.
Once you are of the void, you know that all that has happened to you, happens to you and will ever cross your path is madness, possible only in a dream. You will feel their puerile insanities as if they were your own, simply because they are a part of your fragmented consciousness. Even now, you are the one both reading and writing this. In a word, it is only possible in a dream, and you are the maker of that dream. The dream-marks are all present; you should have recognized them earlier.
Wander the empty eternities as a vagrant thought, useless in its homelessness and forlorn among the empty eternities.
Ah yes, it definitelly took me more than an hour to get to that at first couple of times.
Eventually strat doing this daily. I mean, pratice makes perfect in any case.
Do it like every night before you drift off to sleep. I promise you you'll get better over time and just keep pushing!
I've had this happen a few times I didn't know was astral projection.
It's how I fall asleep. The one time I did it at work underground (driller helper)
I freaked myself out I was having a little siesta trying not to fall asleep when suddenly I couldn't feel any part of my body I stood up and turned around just like you said and everything was as it was but everybody's face was blacked out and when I tried to walked I crumpled into a pile and fell into the mud beside the staging.
It took all my might to finally get back into my seat and when I opened my eyes and went to wipe off all the grime I was clean and nothing was knocked over.
I was told it was sleep paralysis and it was a scarryy as fun
I smoke - alot
I drink - almost every day
I eat very healthy
I have had difficulties falling asleep for ages, so I started drinking alot, or just going to bed at 4 in the morning
>I've read alot on all relatet subjects and I kind of know why its not working for me, but I'm gonna have to flip my lifestyle right over to succeed and I was kind of hoping it would be a little easier.
guess it's not going to be easy
I just have 1 question:
>Is it worth the trouble?
If You are interested go with this: http://whatonearthishappening.com/podcast?start=150
Start from 1 download 30 first parts put on mp3 player and listen during walks, travel, etc. Give it fair chance and see for yourself.
Is it worth it?
Let's put it this way ...
Once I was sad, depressed, alwas angry bastard, now I feel bliss. Might be temporary.
But of course, it's not like flipping a switch. Things take their time, and it's up to each individual to push through or stay the prisoner of it's own ego/whatever/emotions/anger/etc.
It's definitelly worth it!
Try Hemi-Synchs from Monroe Institute. Search for Gateway Experience (in flac or vaw, NOT mp3) and try them.
It is You choice but knowledge is actually very important. Knowing The Occult makes You understand more about Self.
Everyone on this planet should try and watch what they are eating, ACTUALLY eating. And I don't mean looking at the calories but doing actual research in what is inside what they eat. My dad has been trying to reach enlightment I think for over 2 years now and he has recently shown me what kind of cancerous things are inside our food and drinks. Even to the point that our water is poisoned.. but everyone just accepts what lies in the supermarkets ''assuming'' it's acceptable to eat. Like drones.
>try to do this
>end up falling a sleep no matter what
>mfw its not even close to as easy as this guy is putting it
last time I got into a lucid state I looked in the mirror and saw something like a monster in my dream but my subconcious mind freaked out like a pussy while my concious mind wanted to keep going, feels bad man
I'm sort of a crazy bastard - the astralplain seem to be the only place where I can challenge myself accordingly to my ego, without destroying myself with drugs in the real world.
>Thanks for reminding me, that it is possible. I'll take it as a sign
I'll try these, thanks
go with this: >>607710802
Its a start
I'll put it out there as much as I'll might be hated on here for that.
I've been actually vegan for the past year and a half, almost 2 years.
Before that I was sad, depressed, angry little bastard like I said in one of my previous posts.
Everything 'enlightining' came after that decision.
the only thing id want to learn about is the inevitable apocalypse were all doomed to face (unless rapture comes inb4).
maybe some survival techniques.
but im counting on rapture
Be patient. And read the description and instruction.
Oh yeah, looking in the mirror while lucid is definitely worth noticing. A lot of people report scary stuff. But again, strong intetion of moving forward will bring you there.
Exactly that! I wish you good luck!
your dad is completely right.
our systematic water poisoning is due to the flouride. which effectively calcifies the pineal gland, which effectively shuts u off from the astral world where you are able to realize all this shit.
Ok, thank you. Bookmarked.
I know the feeling. Try doing it everyday like training for a marathon. Excitement always ruins stuff. Calm yourself down. It's the way to go.
Tried MXE, don know ket. Achieved m/hole. Wasnt pleasnt but educational. Not astral projection tho. DXM I heard might help.
i actually just woke up last night.
my life changed last night.
ive never had a more beautiful relationship with my mother than before yesterday. but more importantly, ive never had a more beautiful relationship with myself.
since you are me, and i am you. im gonna go ahead and listen to myself and go ahead and try those podcasts out.
Yeah. Everything is just much more sharp and clear, bright but without sunlight.
Ok thankyou! Ive gotten to to the sleep paralysis, and only astral projected once without knowning that was going to happen. So for the steps, should i breath deeply with my eyes closed?
You humble me sir.
The way you describe 'going into the trance' I how I fall asleep I used to pretend I was dead and in a coffin and would close my eyes and cross my arms over my chest or rat the beside my body and close my eyes and not open them no matter what .... Buuut I usually want tired so is lay still for what felt like 20 minutes then id start seeing colours (purple green Blues) on the inside of my eyelids and I'd watch them until they took shape.
One time I swear I was watching 2 people talk in a pickup truck driving down a bumpy road and I thought this better be good and the driver of the truck looked at me and asked me what the hell I was talking about
I woke up really but it kind of scared me really scared me actually I don't know man I just thought I had some issuesyou know what they say it's sane to talk to yourself insane to answer
This pic is actually very good. Seriously. Ancients teached that true center of human cnciousness is heart.
I gotten good at this.
I sometimes open my eyes in the middle of the "vibrations"(as you call it), and I see fucking rainbow spiders crawling on the walls an ceilings with 10 foot shadow figures hunched over my bed.
Natural emissions are the best in my opinion.
I found it last year. Had it on my desktop ever since. If I get angry/depressed or if I come across someone like that I take a look at it and use it as argument.
Nothing is better than a calm mind with acceptance of different opinios than yours.
Dont breath deep. Try to observe your breathing and feel it like natural, normal rythm.
You can try this: >>607711110
Thank You very much. I do what I can, because we dont have much time left.
Oh yeah, I have had and still have issues of my own. I dare to say it that we're monsters. But absolutely nothing is sotping us to become a better 'enlightened' version if you will of ourselves.
>we dont have much time left.
especially with this new superbug out in the US.
had a panic attack when i saw this shit high as fuck. was not fun.
i feel like im immune to it though. just because i have knowledge that i can be immune.
Typical ignorant response.
That is true. Oveactive mind is one of the traps. We get this from school and other "sources" that "mind is the chief" so we think that "mind=me" but in truth mind is MINE so I am not my mind.
Great question - In whos voice you hear your thoughts in your head? Is it Yours?
Fear propaganda. Dont bother.
For me in those kind of things I say - let me know when this thing kills more people than dies on road accidents.
My first complete projection was into the etheric plane where I was attacked by a figment being of my own fear. Now I wish I had stayed and faced it so I could've explored more.
Yes. But try to avoid controlling it (it is hard in the beginning but practice makes the difference).
Well I would say that really depends on perspective. From some we dont matter at all - just a spot on a skin. But right now things are deciding if this spot dissapear or will turn into something ugly and smelly, if You get what I mean. And for us, here, its matter because it will affect our experience.
>Go eat a mcrib and enjoy your life.
Not at the same time, obviously.
OP I have this condition ever since I was a kid where I can't sleep unless I rock back and forth, or move my leg or some other body part.
I've tried this a lot, but I can't really lie in my bed still because of that. Should I just stay still and relax? How long does it take to get to sleep paralysis?
Should I listen to music or something with headphones?
I'm leaning towards Buddhism, but man some of the shit you guys say is wayyyyy bizarre. Relax bro.
Anyhow, I looked up the sleep paralysis sounds and have never been so fucking scared in my life.
Thing is, when you're in sleep paralysis the sounds are never that shocking unless they get super loud.
Ok! Thats what i wanted to here, because ive always thought i had to control it. This really helps, i really need to succeed at this, i find myself to be more into my spirits form then my actual physical form.
I noticed that when I had a week on low dosages of MXE. Very introspective thing. Any psychedelic or disso will work I think.
That is not true. It depends on many causes. Ive learned to talk with my own voice but most of the time I dont even need to speak to myself with my head - every thought is just clear without words.
OP I'm sure studies show that AP is not real. You can't go to other rooms and retrieve information in the same universe your physical body is in. People can't share dreams.
But if you can induce lucid dreams with WILD, or in any other form at will, the're equivalent to OBE's in the sense of how real the experience is. Don't go thinking that your really getting out of body unless in this same place, unless you can prove it with a scientific method. People who believe that sort of thing seem like highly functional schizophrenics to me.
Also, your lucky. I never get envious but you make me fucking jealous. I have been trying WILD for about 3 years with no success. But I will get there one day.
Also if anyone is interested. Check this out.
These guys made a head band that detects REM during your sleep. Then electrically stimulates your scalp to induce a lucid dream around 90% of the time.
I did it without music. There is this thing called 'binaural beats' but I have not researched it enough.
It can take up to an hour for a rookie. For totally experienced one ... It's a power of will like that other guy said. Again, pratice makes perfect.
I know everything about lucid dreaming.
I can lucid dream at will, if I want to.
But this ... This was beyond something we call a dream. I said it before. It's like day and night.
I know it's hard to believe, I was the same. Ma only advice would be ... Try it yourself. You've got nothing to lose.
I don't. I've heard of them before, but all they do is help you focus right?
Trying to inspire other mans to become human beings. "man is a missed link between ape and human being" ;)
Hemi-Synchs might be the best help for You.
I was locked out as a child. It's not demons, it's other beings on the Astral plane, including other humans. There's a lot of jealous guarding of the realm. Lots of it is just intended to scare you off because there can be dangers. If you're largely self-trained, you're looked down upon.
Because I have a nice life without drugs and feel no need to get high.
Discovery is my drug
Sometimes I think that week on dmt/lsd/ayahuasca for all people on this planet would changed everything.
I've been researching it, reading all kind of material for months on and off.
I just recently got guts to try it. It took me about a month, maybe less. Like 3 weeks.
But I am familiar with lucid dreaming, if that helps.
It's like the same thing, but once you get there it isn't. ... It's like night and day!
I get that. But in general, when I try to lucid dream, scary shit happens. Like the dream tries to fight back and gets dark. All the faceless dream actors of people silently sliding slowly toward you, smothering you with stiff and cold bodies, or demons that linger in view even as I'm awake and paralyzed. The sound of thunder in my head, louder than physical possible. At best, as soon as I become aware I was dreaming, I would "wake up" within a dream dozen to hundreds of times in a row, trying to convince me I was really awake.
I don't do lucid dreaming anymore. My subconscious just doesn't dig it for some reason.
same, even did this next to my gf 2 years ago because she didn't believe me, she saw me virbating a bit and then get like one shock and sleep. Best lucid dreaming I've ever had
Monroe Institute - read their materials.
Are you aware that, if you're lucid you can control your dreams? Not always, but most of the time.
I bet you, if you shout at those phobias/fears/whatever shows up ... STOP! BEGONE! ... it would be gone.
You and you only can take control over yourself. Seriously as witty as it sounds.
Actually all things in core nature are the same. For us we can call them humans. What is different is the level of developement.
I just looked up sleep paralysis sounds and I'm fun shook. I was hearing those almost every Night before I went to sleep I have to sleep with a fan on or a monotonous Hun to drown out the noise ( I was the dude who said he pretended To be dead and in a coffins when I was younger to help me fall asleep)
I will slip into 'astral projecting?' But all I see is warping colours everything is drawn in sand(? It's like ink mode on Turok64)
Oh I know. It would work sometimes. Flying flying around space to psychedelic planets is indeed fun. But people always turned faceless when I went lucid, no matter what. And, eventually they would slowly start to move, or float wihout moving if that makes sense, following my energy. Very slowly at first, almost unnoticeable, but progressively faster as time passed.
One time one projection had a face and moved normally. He ran up choked me and screamed with years rolling down his face that I can't wake up or he would die, that he deserved life just as much as me. Was creepy.
mfw you didnt post a pic and complain about people trying to feel smart
Thank You. Like I said I will evetually.
They actually discovered this. All other things come from them.
Yes of course. Everyone is capable of doing it. I just mentioned him for the scientifical purposes.
Yep. I am yet to battle my own demons though.
Also binaural beats and hemi-synchs are the same.
I get auditory hallucinations almost every time Im falling asleep slowly. Sometimes it wakes me back up. Also get exploding head syndrome. Shit is LOUD, like louder than loud can even be but with no ear pain.
I agree with the first point. If you had this OBE power like Jinora from LoK, wouldn't you use it to steal some valuable info and make money off of it. Or something like that? I know I would. Shit now I'm curious about this wild thing.
The shit in this thread is exhibit A on why atheists/skeptics are derided and the fedora meme was created. It's astounding how one can write off a vivid, profound experience with "You're probably just crazy or on drugs." Get your paradigms shattered, you pretentious fags.
Hemi-Synchs are a trademark for binaural beats from Monroe Institute.
Use his knowledge and experience as a guide.
Ya, it's disappointing some of the responses this thread is getting. Some might just be trying to piss others off. Meditation gets some of this shit too. I stopped telling people I meditate. I'm not fucking explaining myself to one of those fuckers.
I love how this thread turned from "you're a faggot autist on drugs" to "oh I wanna try, any pointers?"
have some tits, OP.
When my dad first taught me he told me ''Learn what you learn, know what you know and don't tell anyone.'' It's become quite evident this is the most effective way of going about it.
Hmm I tried a WILD but my eyes and scalp "felt" tight. And my focus was going to that instead of the hypnagogic imagery and can't get to the next stages. Even when repeatedly try to change focus.
Old Hermetic saying states: "THE LIPS OF WISDOM ARE CLOSED, EXCEPT TO THE
EARS OF UNDERSTANDING" (Kybalion) http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/kybalion.pdf
But we dont have time for such plays so those who knows something should share it widely.
i got one question... how do you see the world? aside frome your astral abilitys like flying and shit do you see the world different? i think if you are astral projecting there are other information things what is invisible for the human eye... like ultra violett light... are you able to see this? you are not bound to human biological standarts if you are only "your mind" and not your body
Yes I know. I can lucid dream at will. Upon research I tried this thing called 'astral projection'. One level higher than lucid dreaming and for the 3rd time today. It's like night and day. I know what dream looks/feels like. This was not a dream.
hmmm i am interrested... have thought about abilitys whil astral wtfing? in quantum physics the mind is a bigger number than mass and energy so you should be able to turn mass into energy and into an other shape of mass... like make a chair into a box or somthing o.O
Someone else in this thread described it before. In a dream you see your dream land as in real life, right? A source of light like a sun. In thic case this was not the case, it was very different. There was no source of light, but you could see stuff. Very hard to explain. Also every texture was more bright, a bit more beautiful, things had sparks to it. ... I dare to say it ... It was like magic if you will. I cannot explain it and I've lucid dreamt for over 150 times according to my dream journal.
I will defo explore this into detail. This is amazing.
I have no idea, I just astral projected yestererday for the first time. Someone else more experienced may answer you, but I'd say that's impossible. That's some pretty loopy stuff, but who am I to judge ...
Anyway, I'm hitting the bed. It was fun. Defo looking forward to explore this from now on.
For everyone skeptic or because of usual faggotry on /b/ ... Try it for yourself. You've got nothing to lose. But caution! Things take time!
Good luck! :)
hmm try it o.O but your mind is to bound to the world at this moment im not able to astral project but if your mind is able to accapt the fact that you are now on a level of "beeing without physical body and shit" you should be able to transformate stuff... you had to lose the bound to the physical world while projecting... because this could be a "door" to the ability and for now its closed... i am from germany and my english isnt well enough to say it better xD i hope you understand what i want to tell you