When was the last time you thanked one of these guys for their service to the country?
I explain to them before they ship off to Iraq, "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams".
>thank someone for doing something you don't want them to do
thanks for destabilising oil lords who don't like the American middleman and being part of the country killing economic black hole that is the military spending budget. nice job antagonizing some sand niggers into domestic extremism.
I don't. They ceased fighting for freedom around Vietnam. Ever since the military has been a tool of MIC, the "wars" fought by those poor idiots are not to keep america free, but to subsidize oil interests. They're puppets, and only an idiot would willingly put their life on the line for an industry. I don't thank them. I pity them.
Whenever it's appropriate as I dont dig the military because they're usually half brain dead. But they put their life on the line for the betterment of themselves and others. They still deserve a thank you.
You should thank them, if only because if they weren't stupid enough to do it you would be forced to.
They're not protecting you from sandnigger terrorists, but they ARE protecting you from your own government. Thank them for that.
>19 y/o militaryfag
>go through airport wearing my ACU's for travel
>approached by people thanking me for my service
I didn't join to be praised I joined because I always wanted to join. I can do without people constantly coming up to me and thanking me for a something I didn't do.
The military keeps us from being attacked by other countries, but the military doesnt make the country, its people do. I may not be in the military yet, but I wouldnt want to be thanked for the service to the country when those who are thanking me are doing.just as much as I am. With a much lower death percentage rate.
I don't know where this "they don't fight for muh freedom" criticism came from. That's not the role of a military. However the existence of a strong standing military ensures that out way of life continues. But as individuals, they aren't by default some kind of paladin of justice. They are just dudes with jobs.
Navy Depper here.
We pay the same taxes as everyone else does. I don't know why everyone acts like we don't pay into out own pay. No one complains about fire fighter's salaries being paid by their taxes, police, DOT, Fish and Game, like fuck, guys. Would you like all of the jobs paid by your taxes shut down for the day? There goes most people's power, water, sewage, fire fighting, police, road maintenance, etc.
A lot of shit is paid by taxes that you don't even think about. Stop fuckin' complaining all the time, go live off the grid if you don't want to pay taxes for people's jobs.
"Stand behind the troops or stand in front of them" is just the pendulum swinging away from the poor treatment Vietnam vets received. I respect and admire US troops for the job they do but in no fucking way is it thankless. And war mongers use them to defend their agenda. "I'm not sure I agree with our unjustified aggression in the Middle East." "Fuck you, if you don't support the troops then get the fuck out!"
i kinda wanna join, but i'm not sure i qualify.
i was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes a while back. but i was able to go off all my meds and control the disease through diet and exercise.
today all my insulin resistance is gone and i'm as fit as ever.
does my diagnoses disqualify me from military service?
i am not thanking them for shit
they signed up for it, they got paid for what they did.
it doesnt make any fucking sense to thank them, they knew what they were signing up for.
they did a service and they got paid.
the people who were DRAFTED in the vietnam days are the people we should thank, they had no choice.
>With a much lower death percentage rate.
I think that's the reason people thank you. Not because you're doing more for the country than they are, but because you're doing the really dangerous part that they don't want to.
It's why you're more thankful for the soldier fighting in the trenches than you are the guy designing the drones, even if the drone guy did a thousand times more for the war effort. Because you wouldn't mind doing his job, but you'd give anything to avoid being the guy in the trenches.
Oh yeah let us for a moment pretend that /b/ isn't largely populated by edgelords, resentful fat fucks, and ignorant asses whos first words in relation to military are "muh tax dollars" even though a TON of active posters are unemployed.
>the people who were DRAFTED in the vietnam days are the people we should thank, they had no choice.
You shouldn't thank them either, you should just feel sorry for them. That's like thanking a kidnapped child for his service to the pedophile.
And you should thank those who volunteer from keeping you from getting drafted. It's like if the pedophile is walking around the room, and you're sitting there with a bunch of other kids, and little Jimmy volunteers to get raped first, you thank him for keeping you safe. If the pedophile comes and picks Jimmy at random and drags him away, you don't thank him, you just feel sorry for him.
This shit is a slap in the face to all those brave men and women who seek to protect us. It also shows how weak and yellow the mods and admins and our liberal government really are. This puke has spewed hate speech against the United States Of America and his thread is still here? I am actually so sick and tired of the mamby pamby policies which have weakened our Country. Do you think the world is laughing at a king liar who draws lines in the sand? Now some will say, oh you are just blaming obama. No I am blaming all his gutless wonders and those so called Americans who support and cover for his in ability to be a Commander and Chief. If he were out to protect the people of America, he would stand up and make it clear, this kind of edgy trash is treason and sedition seeks to harm America and should be removed. Oh wait this is the same weakling who says he has an agreement with a country who wishes to destroy us, Iran. What side is he on? He himself is one of the greatest threats to all that has made America great, with his liberal supporters who have done all they can to undermine the values, ethics and standards which have made America great. This is again a slap to the face of true Americans and another example how obama has shown our enemies how weak we have become due to him and his followers.
Only time will show you what piece of shit you are. No shitposting, no insult. No. That's what you're asking for. One day you will realise it yourself. All those moments being a troll. It's not worth it. Maybe you will laugh about this comment. But I promise, one day you will realise it. You are worthless.
I'm pro military, but that argument is wrong, the taxes you pay come from your salary which comes form my taxes. A better argument would be that we must have a military , just like we have to have cops.
most of the people who joined the military from my graduating class were simply to dumb or poor to go to college and used the military to get paid without having any skills
No, i thank the vietnam era vets, because they had no choice and most of them were treated like shit at the time
a lot of vets coming home from war then were spit on.
you just went off the deep end with your argument about pedophiles somehow relating to people volunteering for a job.
wut? did i take your bait?
maybe. Go to a recruiter, ask them about it. They might have to call down to the local MEPS, but they'll let you know for sure. Hell, they cater to vegetarians in the service, so you shouldn't have a problem getting food that helps you control it.
Well, it's right and wrong. We do pay some of our own salery, just like every other job paid by taxes. My point in that argument was what you pointed out, we need military like every other government job, federal or otherwise. Imagine oil prices if we didn't go in when we did to save some of the refineries. All the eco-green freaks don't want us drilling our own supply.
I guess we could use our coal to make diesel, but that's not gonna last too long.
>a lot of vets coming home from war then were spit on.
I don't agree with spitting on vets, but I don't agree with thanking them either. My point was : you don't thank victims of a crime, you feel sorry for them. Thanking them somehow validates that what happened to them was okay.
>you just went off the deep end with your argument about pedophiles somehow relating to people volunteering for a job.
It wasn't the deep end. It was an analogy. The government is the pedophile. The government has a room-full of draftable young men, equivalent to the pedophile's room-full of children, to use to sate their needs. Now, if the pedophile lets people volunteer and Johnny agrees to take one for the team and get raped, you thank him.
But if the pedophile just comes in and picks Johnny at random, you wouldn't thank him, would you? After all, he didn't really do anything...
I'd thank the ones who stood up against the government, burned their draft cards, and went to prison. Not the ones who fought or fled to Canada. They're like the little kid who picks up a pipe and beats the pedophile to death before letting all the other kids run free. They're the reason we haven't had another draft yet.
Ok then why don't all the people at your "job" go out and get bitched at by the pay that pay for whatever "service" it is you provide. Not the guy you were being ignorant to I just find your ignorance insufferable. If you want to not have someone else subsidize your existence in one way or another then go live out in the woods by yourself. But don't forget to thank the earth for all the free shit you take from it you ungrateful mooch. Stupid twat......
it was a poor analogy. you are underage, or are a master troll. your analogy doesnt make sense.
I thank the ones who went are the real heros, the ones who got drafted and went. not the draft dodgers.
What's wrong with the analogy? I'm neither underage nor a troll.
How are they heroes? What exactly did they do for you? Vietnam was never a threat to you, or anyone else in America. The draft dodgers (again, not the ones that fled, but the ones that stayed, protested, and went to prison for their beliefs) have protected you and every other young man (and maybe woman) in this country from ever being drafted by the government again. I'd say that's doing more for you than killing some harmless jungle-men halfway across the world.
veterans arent heros? are we arguing for the same thing?
I know veterans arent heros and should not be venerated as such.
they should not be thanked.
being a soldier is just a job they signed up for.
I work and pay my taxes and ignore most of the political bullshit in this country ( USA ) As far as service members that fight for pay checks ? Well they signed up to do what they do, I didn't ask them. Also I prefer to save my thanks for people who's service directly affects my daily life, like firemen and teachers and construction workers.
I thanked my neighbor's plenty last night. These losers who joins the military have no idea how notoriously horny their wifes and girlsfriends get. Ever been in the military? Yeah I probably fucked your girl, deal with it losers.
they knew exactly what they signed up for
they signed up for a job, and then got paid for it.>>609610728
i lost my virginity at 15. i could care less if the veterans are virgins or not. one thing they arent, is a hero.
they are regular people who knew what they were signing up for
5 years ago was in the Atlanta airport. Soldier returning from deployment was eating at the table next to mine. I told the waiter to give me the guy's tab, but not to tell him I was doing it because I didn't want him fighting me for it etc. Then I paid and walked the fuck out before the soldier finished. That was as close as I got to thanking anyone. I'd rather just ghost.
I served myself, and people thanking you is just weird.
I'm saying that veterans who volunteer should be thanked for keeping the government from drafting you. They are not heroes for killing sandniggers but they are heroes for volunteering as tribute to keep the government's dirty hands off of everyone else.
Veterans who were drafted aren't heroes, but victims of government slavery.
The vast majority don't want your fake sympathy and probably hate you for being a little bitch. Just be respectful.
Military dudes aren't doing me any favors. Fuck them. The wars are all pointless, they're paid to go, it's their fucking job, and it's a volunteer army. I don't thank the military any more than I thank the monkey at the gas station where I get gas. I mean their paid to fucking be there.
I was in admin at the Pentagon like 3 years ago. If that is your medical situation, no insulin dependency, you should be able to enlist with an extra exam to test your handling of sugar, and a waiver which you will not have a problem getting out of anyone but the Marines.
FYI you can get in the reserves even with some insulin dependency. We even let guys deploy to Iraq with that shit, but they have to watch it like a hawk or we send them home.
Well that was what you were, only you were employed by an organization called the american government. If tou ever killed someone during your service you're a murderer, plain and simple.
Your logic is shitlogic.
I am not thanking them because they signed up for a job that they knew the risks and benefits of. If i got drafted it would be because the army needed me, and i would go.
hell actually i wouldnt get drafted. I tried to sign up for the military. they wouldnt accept me.
>The draft dodgers (again, not the ones that fled, but the ones that stayed, protested, and went to prison for their beliefs) have protected you and every other young man (and maybe woman) in this country from ever being drafted by the government again
Lol, there is a inactive draft. Its called "selective service". Everyone has to apply for it when they turn 18. Its adds your name to the system so that when the "draft" is activated again you can be selected for service.
>If i got drafted it would be because the army needed me, and i would go.
See I believe the draft is a complete violation of basic human rights and should be done away with.
But as long as such an evil exists I thank those who protect me from it.
If there were a draft the people being drafted wouldn't be protecting me from anything, so I wouldn't see a need to thank them anymore.
Simple as that.
I am aware of this. The fact that it will not be used again (barring WW3), can be attributed to the protestors of the time though (and the overall stupidity of the Vietnam war).
The longer you go without using it the more resistance you're going to face bringing it back. Past generations were raised knowing that they might one day have to go to war. The longer we go without a draft the more kids are being raised to believe that we'll never need it again, and they're being raised soft and weak, and that's going to make using it virtually impossible.
I'm starting to see why you never amounted to more than being a gun for hire. You know somewhere deep down that you're no better than a burglar or thief, at least they're honest about what they do.
Gents, as a vet who returned from the 'Nam long ago I speak for myself but I know that there are others akin to me... no "thanks" unless you are compelled to do so BUT... think of saving it for a special occasion. In general day-to-day life no "thanks" is desired. At most, perhaps a simple nod of the head as is done between males who share a commonality such as being Americans and on the side of right... a guy thing that happens totally outside the military.
Folks... a big "THANKS" to all of you who never served but who stayed in the USA to keep things going. We, overseas, would be NOTHING without you good, decent, civil, law-biding folks inside the USA to keep the country operating on a day-to-day basis. Heroic acts performed by citizens make the news regularly. Maybe it will be YOU who is the hero next time a little kids life is saved.
Thank YOU, citizens.
Holy shit, this thread... Amerifats really are this fucking stupid?
>send murderous thugs to other countries
>expect normal citizens to thank them when they get back home
Stop lying to yourself americans, your country is evil.
You don't know what a draft is you retarded faggot.
Respect is earned, cocksucker.
Not handed out by default.
Additionally, the US occupation of the middle east is a farce, so you're essentially asking that people respect spineless, mindless automations who are bankrupt of critical thought.
Yeah, nice one. Not happening.
the air force is super strict about their recruitment so they might denied. The Army and Navy pretty much takes anybody. I literally watched a fat guy get through MEPS and our basic training unit had a fat fuck who flunked all 4 of his pt tests, white phase restarted then passed.
You know what I know? That I get to travel the world, fuck foreign girls, live an exciting life, have stories that could keep an audience glued to my every word, have relationships with people who would gladly die for me, and you're paying for it while you sit around at your thankless job...If you even have a job...complaining on /b/ and generally being the same cantankerous failure that drove your mother to drink for the rest of your life.
So sure, it's not really true since I'm not a grunt, but if I was I'd admit to being a killer and blahblahblah whatever else, because at the end of the day I'll still have a better life than you.
Really? It's why I and nearly every other service member in today's military responds. We know these wars are bullshit. Maybe if you asked them instead of inferring that is why.
I don't do it because I think I'm an angel, I do it to pay it forward and make a safe future for my kids. I'm fit and smart enough to be an officer. I don't like the way we've been conducting war. How do you plan on fixing a problem unless you're part of the system? Naive to think I'll single handed change us foreign policy? Yeah, that doesnt mean I won't have an effect on the other officers who some day will be in that position though.
Maybe not by a little bitch like you, piece of shit. A man to man "Thank you for your service" is a great statement of solidarity and acknowledgement the civilian knows where his freedom comes from and is giving the proper thanks. It is to be expected
Because most of us being thanked just got out of some kind of training. Even worse when we don't even have our unit patches, and we're getting treated like we just got back from a war. It's weird and some of us feel bad.
I see that I hit a nerve. You're working as a hired thug who exploits people all over the world, you are evil and you don't even recognize it.
And it's funny how you try to project your own anxiety on me. I have no need to defend myself to vermin like you, but know this. I have a great life, meaningful relationships and plenty of means. Also I contribute to private enterprise and society in a way you don't.
You may travel the world, but I'm paying for it. You're a fucking murderer and a parasite and you're worth jack shit.
Are you actually retarded? Are you trying to say that you will in any way have ANY inpact at all on foreign policy? Don't make me fucking laugh. You needed money and your only chance was to suck uncke sam's cock.
>for their service
They get paid
They get free food
They get free housing
They get scholarships
They get discounts everywhere
Joining the military is the easiest path through life
Not really. I'm just poking the bear, I'm hardly the one running around passing himself about all them murdering soldiers.
Lol now who's projecting anxiety. Maybe next you'll tell me the size of your dick and how every morning you backfill into your Ferrari made of diamonds, that will sure make you seem less mad as fuck that no one cares about what you think.
Again, instead of being blinded by your selfish ignorance, try actually reading something before you respond. I lost all respect for you, so i am replying merely out of spite.
Unless you end up like one of these guys
Daily reminder that a soldier paying taxes is just giving back a bit of my money to the people who stole it in the first place. You're all fucking welfare queens. At least police and firemen actually protect the people while you guys do jack shit.
I'm not watching it, I'm sure it's very heart warming but generally we don't enjoy thanks. Would you enjoy being stopped by strangers assuming you've done something you probably havnt and being thanked?
Sortof right but not as beautiful as it seems. We really only get free food during training. Afterwards we pay for it ourselves. The pay is below minimum wage. I've been in for three years and making barely over 20k a year. And they "Housing" is more akin to living in a shitty box with roaches and a fridge. Although WAY better than ship life.
Don't get me wrong though, the military really is easy once you get the hang of it.
they get paid
>it's a job shithead, I'd like to see you agree to get shot at for free
it comes out of our pay if we decided to get meal cards
a whopping 10% off my meal
2/10 for responding
Yeah I do. What's going to stop me? You? You're a pathetic beta bitch whose crowning achievement was getting rejected to prom. Of course you have no ambition. I'm fucking awesome, and I'm going to stop at nothing to get what I want. You can stay where you are, like all the other sheep.
Vet here with massive ptsd.
I tried to go out and be more social today. I decided to go to church and I do believe but not right wing. I just wanted to go out and be more social so I don't isolate. I just got out of in patient for suicidal stuff and all I wanted to do was try to be in a public setting.
Every motherfucker in there made it thier job to ask about my service and if I've killed people and if I lost any close friends. I must of looked like a fucking psycho torwards the end. One of my buds with PTSD just got killed by a cop a week ago too.
I can't stand Americans. I'm leaving this fucking country.
Well let's not pretend you were even pretending to be respectful to begin with, so that's out the window. But really what in anything I've said indicates that I want, need, or care about your respect? And yes, I can tell your replying out of spite, that's the joke. YOU'RE the joke
Yes - as a uneducated racist, your comments are worth absolutely nothing. The reason most people don't feel safe walking the streets in America is that whack jobs like you roaming the streets with guns.
Learn how to reply to posts you dumb fuck.
Your brother is a faggot and so are you. I hope he dies over there.
As if that made any sense to my comment or I gave any indication of any of those qualities, sure. W.e. I'm a raving rube nutjob waving my guns (that I don't even own) killing all the helpless minorities. Whatever delusions you need to help you sleep at night.
Thanks bud. Until you posted, all of the responses were attempts at being rational. I was waiting for some trailer trash to get on and give the ole' "derka derpty whoo hoo PBR, boom stiks n nascar, will yer allll give meh a white power!!?!" You made me smile
I hope the cock isn't too hard for him.
>libtards admittedly mad as fug
>me laughing at them
Oh noes is I bein trolled?
You thanked that dipshit for being in the coastguard. That's even more pathetic.
ITT: Veterans getting butt hurt but cant leave it alone and keep coming back for more
Thank you, for the 1000th time, for reposting a baseless, retarded, invalid arguement and making a complete fool of yourself. You can always tell who dropped out of middle school by the use of circular logic.
Don't try to hide that you're crying, I can hear your faggoty sobs all the way here. No one likes you, and you know it. So go ahead, tell yourself you don't care. But deep down you know most american's look down on and despise you.
Of course it's hilarious to you. "Jack shit pay" is how you measure success. I'm making ~70k a year with the military out of college, had job offers for 90k and turned them down. Stay butt hurt knowing I find achievement in other ways. Like human interaction, something you probably get very little of.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Apparently "most Americans" tend to keep to the internet deep inside their basements, I haunt met very many of them. The majority I meet are annoyingly supportive and congratulatory. Tell most Americans to come into the open so I can enjoy my day out without being thanked constantly
>go be edgy somewhere else faggot
You mean I...in the military, where rank structure and billet are everything and I'm in charge of millions of dollars or equipment...I won't be in charge of anything...Roger that, spaz
Reminder that soldiers are retarded and needn't be thanked for doing the government's dirty jobs.
>yfw Bush doesn't give a fuck about your blown up legs
Never. Most of them regret ever going because they come back fucked up individuals and I'd rather not remind them of that. I'm respectful towards them for what they do (whether I agree with what they're doing is justified) and that's all they really ask for.
Apparently not, judging by how you've displayed the exact opposite. Even the most boot pfc is in charge of quite a bit, and if you've had even the slightest experiance, even the most 2nd hand encounter you'd know why suggesting otherwise is not only silly, but straight up pants on head retarded. So no common sense there, you might have an iq score over 6 but I'd be surprised if it reached double digits
They were already mentally disabled for joining in the first place.
i thank military personal every chance i get.
i dont come from a military family, nor do i condone violence or wars.
but the harsh reality is that violence and wars exist, and without them, the country im in would fall apart.
im not implying my country is the greatest but i live here and its home. in fact i believe the US is the rot of the world and will eventually cause the apocalypse.
but still its my home and im glad its being defended.
im glad im allowed to even think this.
Last Friday at the tire shop a Vietnam vet was there with a really nice corvette. I complemented him on his car and thanked him for his service. He shook my hand and said thanks.
Best feeling I've had in months.
You either are just a born liar who wishes to "attack dem ebil people who don't agree with me" even if that requires slander and blatant lies, or you truly have some serious mental deficiency.So for the love of Pete, knock it the fuck off.
When I am at work I shake there hand and thank them, I like to see the smile on there face when someone dosnt act like a total asshole to them
WTF is wrong with people indeed...it's a goddamn barrel length, and fucking military officers are going to call the cops on people? Shit. Obviously your best role model is herpes, I was just in to see if you'd hit anyone else's radar.
I didn't ask them for their service. I was never at risk from Sadam Huessein and pretty much not Al Queada either. They do nothing for me by spending a clownishly large percentage of the GDP to go die in some godforsaken desert or come back all mangled and on the dole for the rest of their lives. I have no patience for their empty headed idea that they get to tell me what I'm allowed to say about them, the nation, or the war effort.
Fuck men in uniform. Fuck people who fight for the preservation of old rich white people's oil money. Fuck those retarded haircuts, seriously, what the fuck even is that shit. Your heads look like a kitchen sponge.
You want to serve your nation, Sgt Tardolini? Become a police office, there are too many shitty fat pigs who kill unarmed people and we need decent folks in those positions post haste. Become a fireman and come to me when I'm in actual danger. Become an ENT and show up at my home during my greatest moment of need.
THOSE are the actions of heroes. THOSE are actions that serve your people.
I know this is probably bait and almost an hour old but I can't resist replying to this
>He himself is one of the greatest threats to all that has made America great, with his liberal supporters who have done all they can to undermine the values, ethics and standards which have made America great.
First of all, he's in office because the American public voted for him. If they didn't want this, they wouldn't have voted for him.
Second of all, nothing about your values, ethics or standards is "what made America great". The petrodollar and the destruction of smaller nations for your economic or political benefit is what made your country strong. If you faggots think you're the first society to embrace those ideals of personal liberty, freedom of expression and the right to be your own man, you're dead wrong. Nothing about a countrys' beliefs is what makes them strong.
>joined because I didn't want to bet $30,000+ on a career I 'might' enjoy.
>don't know anyone in the service who demands tribute from civilians
>military gives good opportunity and can really shape up people by getting them into a proper trade.
>honestly don't know why people hate on enlisted and officers. We follow orders from people you guys elect.
>people need to realize there's more to the military than hurr durr infantry.
God when people say this to me it makes me uncomfortable...how many people do you think actually serve for selfless reasons?
>air force cyber ops
>extra hiring points in many jobs
>job experience and free certifications
>got to live in europe for 2 years
>joined with a guaranteed job position that would be marketable on the outside
Why wouldn't you want to serve?
>blindly follow orders
What do you even mean by that? We're not a bunch of fucking drones.
Perhaps you can do what me and my friends do and actually call/email senators your opinions on the matter. Vote for proper people or demand lobbying be removed from congress. I know I do.