Okay, there is a shooting going on at my college right now, which one of you faggots did it?
>Get up, get pic related, think it is just some stalker looking guy
>Dive to school anyway
>Cops everywhere, blocking roads
>Go home, look at news, post here
Oohhhh. Breaking on the news channels now. Haven't had a shooting for a while.
Shut up, faggot
Tell you what, I'll be taking my brother up to his school that's down the road at around 10:30. If you guys somehow keep this thread alive for that long, I'll go take some pictures
I'd venture to guess USA has more guns than Europe combined. It's too far gone for gun control to work. Otherwise your point would be fair. We're just too different to compare regarding our gun situation. I suspect that as your nigger population grows, so will your crime. And by nigger I mean Muslim for you.
>More guns = less shootings
Go away, silly Republican.
isn't that true from the fbi stats regarding crime? Iirc it's going down as opposed to what you are hearing on the tv. All I know is I'd rather have a gun in a gun fight than not. It's not like I can choose to not have crime happen around me.
Do you really? I do know Europe has a tradition of ignoring crime in regards to pc as well. Oh well apples and oranges comparing crime rates. It would be interesting to see how crime would fluctuate if we sent our niggers over to you.
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You are looking at it wrong my nut less friend. In that scenario the gun is the aggressor, not the person. You see how this works? I understand you grew up being told what to do and promised that somehow Europe was a utopia but that's not the case in the USA.
I was more referring to your rolling paki rape squads that get away with it on a regular basis. There's no question the us has more gun crime. No argument there. I do know however that on a statistical level school shootings are considered an anomaly and if you remove blacks from the equation we actually have better crime rates than some European countries. Also you report your crime differently than us. Apples and oranges. My argument is that I can't control who has a gun or when they use it. I can however control my chances and make them a bit higher by being properly trained and responsible with a gun.
Terribly sorry, old boy, but my family hasn't lived in Europe for nearly 400 years now. Mayflower motherfucker here. And the NRA bullshit excuses are nothing more than lobbying for the firearms industry.
It works to deter. Would you shoot up a public place where people may be carrying? Would you attempt to mug or rape if theres a high chance they or someone who witnesses has a gun?
Preach it brother! I'm glad somebody knows what he's talking about.
I try and practice this philosophy in my daily life as well. That's why I tell children all the racial slurs I know because a society where everyone has access to racial epithets is a society where everyone is too scared to call people names. I also take the safety measures off every car I see, such as air bags and seat belts. A society where nobody has seat belts is a society where people don't crash into each other! Right now I'm in the middle of selling a few kilos of enriched uranium to ISIS, too, because a society where everyone has access to nuclear weaponry is a society where nobody dares use them.
I wish I could contribute more to this conversation but I have to go deliver this container of land mines to my next door neighbour. Sure I fucked his wife last week but I'm sure he'll understand that a society where everyone has land mines to put under their neighbour's welcome mats is a society where nobody wants to :)
Now those statistics don't include suicides correct? That article doesn't even cite statistics. It is no matter however. I'll have my gun. I'm responsible. You do what you want. All I know is I want you as a neighbor. You probably think security systems help to right?
>Would you shoot up a public place where people may be carrying?
Yes I'm sure all these people who kill as many people as they can AND THEN COMMIT SUICIDE would be way scared to walk into a room with a person who has a weapon.
They are literally raping children within this minute and brining in more mudslimes to further pollute the rest of europe until it becomes mecca 2.0. And don't even get started on sweden.
You start your hypothetical midstream, where the bad guy already has the gun. It should start earlier, where the bad guy doesn't have a gun, can't just walk into any fucking Walmart Superstore and buy one or pick one up from one of his inbred, toothless neighbors, and then he's got to navigate the jacked-up rates of the black market to get one for 10x the current price he'd pay for any one of the readily available ones now.
Live nearby and at one of the roadblocks right now. Swat teams arrived a while back and in the last few minutes there's been one hell of a gun battle. Was completely silent then what sounded like world war 3 erupted. will keep u updated.
Again you are stating non sense that points to the gun itself as the aggressor. Seriously just stop. The only hope for crime to not happen to you is deterrance. A potential burglary is less likely if the criminal fears the home owner has a gun. A dog is great too. Especially here were I live. We have a huge minority population. There is a lot of crime. I haven't been targeted yet. Does not mean I won't be. That is out of my control. Tell me more about how you will disarm the attacker and disabled them while waiting for the police if you were targeted.
You can't control free will. Criminals choose to be criminals. What's the high score for kills with a gun? I bet it's easily beatable using other methods. America has a criminal problem not a gun problem. And even if you ban guns they don't actually disappear. That point is far gone here sadly.
Put a gun into a random asshole's hands and you give him the ability to easily kill anyone around him. This is a fact. Now I'm glad that you have enough faith in your fellow man that you feel like that's a good thing but I sure as fuck don't.
That said I honestly don't think gun control could work in America due to how things are there right now. There are simply too many guns there to ever actually control them, and your culture won't allow it either way. The same doesn't go for Europe though, thank God. Barely anyone has a gun here and gun crime is extremely low in my country, because gun control.
Remove blacks. Gun crime as a whole goes down. School shootings are an anomaly. I believe most people who start the shootings break upwards of 30 laws to do so? I don't see a way to stop this here in the us. There are too many guns easily accessible. If the intent is there it will attempt to happen.
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Black market firearms in America are extremely cheap because you can literally walk into a supermarket, buy one, and put it on the black market, Anon.
They get a lot more expensive if you can't legally buy guns anywhere in the country.
I agree. I have a gun because of my lack of faith in my fellow Americans. Europe enacted gun control laws and they have paid off depending on how you look at it from a gun owners point of view. We are too far gone here.
I see more videos of niggers doing weird stuff in murica than I do in Europe....
lel, that is the worst argument ever
so to enhance our debate against school shootings, you want to remove school shootings from the debate? nice!!!!!!!
You guys definitely crossed a threshold where you can't remove guns from the equation anymore whether you want to or not, yeah. My girlfriend is actually American, we've spent a long time very carefully discussing the subject. It all boils down to "what works for you wouldn't work for us". A lame answer but that's where you end up. It's also why the arguments here get so vicious- everybody just argues from their own perspective so everyone is technically right.
Dodging my argument as usual. I'm not even arguing about school shootings as they are a statistical anomaly. I am simply stating that America has a criminal problem with a high percentage being black. A gun is a tool. You cannot blame a tool for whoever is wielding it as Europeans and liberals tend to. Good luck in fantasy land.
not at all my thick skulled friend, here in the united states 99% of people who own guns aren't retards who go around shooting shit all day. however when some coward ass little whiny pussy decides to take his pathetic problems out on society he ALWAYS chooses the place that has the weakest defenses ie gun free zones because he's a throbbing vagina and doesn't want to be shot himself. however most people in america own guns and nothing bad happens they just go out to a safe environment shoot off a couple rounds have a little fun in a safe manner and that's it. also big reason no country would dare invade the united states is because everybody owns a fucking gun. it would be much much fucking easier to invade europe cause all you irresponsible pussies would be trying to fend off attackers with sticks and knives and shit lol. you banned guns cause you couldn't handle it. that sucks. enjoy your false sense of superiority lol.
except your wrong asshat, most concealed carriers do win in that scenario go look it up, statistics back this one up
>After guns were banned in the UK, the armed robbery rate spiked over 40% and 44% in Australia.
that's some shitty grammar, nigger
dumb gun toting nigger can't even make a sentence. shouldn't be trusted with a gun
> statistical anomaly
happens all the fucking time, but let's ignore them
> a gun is a tool
to kill people yes
It's funny that the police in your country is also killing off people for the heck of it
Doesn't make it less true
lel, tell me again that the number of gun killings is not significantly higher than in other countries
I would like too have the source of that picture by a credible, non paid by gun markets site ;)
The argument is that this particular tool -- the gun -- has no other purpose for being but to shoot motherfuckers. A knife is for cutting food, pressure cookers are for making dinner, ball bearings and brads are not primarily used for shrapnel, a car is a means of transportation...but all of them can be weaponized. A gun is weaponized on the assembly line.
>being this brainwashed
I want reddit to leave.
The thing is you are completely ignoring the facts. Why should we change national policy for statistical anomalies? Not very efficient. You are grasping at straws now. America is not Europe. Simple as that.
If nobody has a handgun, nobody needs a handgun. The same does not go for cars and knives.
Of course removing guns from the equation won't magically solve crime but it is something worth striving for nonetheless (disregarding, for argument's sake, the fact that you can't remove guns from the equation in America)
Well if I lived in fairytale land where gun no longer existed and no one knew how to make one using simple tools then I would agree...
Reality is that guns exist and will always exist
>Well if I lived in fairytale land where gun no longer existed and no one knew how to make one using simple tools then I would agree...
You should move to Europe. We also have magical underwater kingdoms.
Except we live in reality where you can't just press a button and magically get rid of all guns. Stop living in some theoretical liberal fantasy, faggot. What gun legislation could you put in place RIGHT NOW that would
A. protect people's rights and
B. lower crime?
If you can't answer then gtfo
Jeez Anon I said that much myself at the end of my post. I agree that you Americans are stuck in your dystopian nightmare. All I'm saying is that you fuckers could have had it so much better. Thank the Lord there's still emigration.
That's what the Ozfags did after Port Arthur. Haven't had a mass shooting since and yet somehow the government hasn't taken the opportunity to put the population into concentration camps either. Hmmm...so strange...I've been told this whole time that the only thing keeping the government from coming to get me is all my guns....could it be that that isn't true????
its really funny how people are too dumb to think beyond the guns and examine the person committing the crime. it has nothing to do with how many guns there are our how available they are. it has everything to do with the culture and the individual who wants to do others harm. and when it comes down to it nothing is going to stop someone from hurting someone else if they really want to. its not as simple as pointing the blame at the weapons.
the only thing that prohibition does is create a black market.
Except there is no dystopian nightmare. You are more likely in the United States to die from being struck by lightning than by a gun. That includes suicides AND homicides by gun.
But keep being a good goy and watch your Michael Moore and mainstream news. They wouldn't lead you astray, right?
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the room! the room! the room is under fire!
We don't need no coppers let them students get shot! shoot all the students! shoot!
You're more likely to die by gun crime than by terrorism. Keep spending all that money and all those lives fighting the terrorists though. Don't forget to vote some people into office who'll intrude upon your civil liberties to do it!
The Left doesn't care about preventing gun violence. What is the NUMBER ONE thing that would prevent gun violence? Shutting down the black market. This is something both sides can agree on. This is something that would save the most lives.
But no, they have to contrarian edgelords and ban everyone's guns. But they can support such an extremist position because the media adds so much fuel to the flame and the liberals eat it up.
This is true as well anon, you know whats up. All this money going into terrorist prevention could be much better spent.
There is a black marked in every developed country. A few years back police confiscated a panzerfaust and a crate of grenades from the black market in belgium. Which is fucking crazy.