>cop pulls me over for changing lanes without signaling
>asks for id and insurance
>he notices im tense and starting to sweat a little
>he asks me if im hiding anything or im on any drugs
>I politely tell him im not and I would just like to be on my way if he was done giving me a warning
>he orders me to get out of my vehicle
Jesus Christ don't cops realize they're the reason who cause people to panic/tense up? They have the power to send us to jail or even kill us, of course I'd be terrified.
>I politely tell him im not and I would just like to be on my way if he was done giving me a warning
>if he was done giving me a warning
That's why he ordered you out of the vehicle.
It's really not their fault. They're cynical and jaded, and think everybody is an evil shitbag. It's their occupation that causes them to have such a worldview that views everyone under constant scrutiny.
I agree, it's the shits, but I don't hold it against them. It's not their fault they were trained to be such little bitches. They'll get theirs. Everything that comes around goes around.
I don't want to say it's not their fault, but it's true. It's similar to the clinician's illusion, where if you always see someone not recover from an illness, you assume no one can.
Holy shit, guys. Thank God this guy is around. This one is a smart one.
I thought it was a good suggestion until this smart guy here cleared that up. Can't believe we didn't realize how STUPID an idea TWITCHING AND REACHING FOR THE GLOVE BOX WOULD BE.
SO GLAD YOU TOLD US. BECAUSE SHIT LIKE THIS INST A JOKE. THE GUY SUGGESTING IT WAS OBVIOUSLY SERIOUS AND NEEDED YOU TO CLARIFY.
don't worry soon they will have stop sign cameras, retina recognition at stop lights and infraction detectors. don't go too fast cause we got speed detection devices. The Police state is NOW
Sometimes we need to step back and assess things like the way a sociopath
Don't give in to your emotions (fear or nervousness), it won't do any good when you're talking to a cop
You'll do better next time, OP
They're the worst type of human beings. They really are bags of shit. Anything for a shit-tier government paycheck, right? Pulling people over for not signaling? Fucking statists.
When I hear one say, "I'm just doing my job." I always wanna ask, "What's your price? If I pay you enough will you suck my dick and use the same excuse?" But I don't wanna go to jail or be kill.
I was pulled over a few weeks ago for speeding. The cop could have given me reckless driving at the speed I was going, I passed someone illegally, didn't have any current registration becuase I had just gotten it renewed and hadn't put the paperwork in my car yet, and I was on painkillers. After talking to him for awhile he let me go with a simple speeding ticket for 11 MPH less than I was actually going
Maybe the fact it was my first ticket ever since I got my licence 8 years ago, that I'm white, was well dressed, and drive a "sensible" car factors in but I have to wonder how people like OP manage to fuck these things up so badly.
fuck you. I bet you are one of those idiots that say "just don't break the law and nothing will happen to you"
>They just do their jobs
>they just follow orders
>they are trained to do that
Seriously, anyone who thinks like this is a fucking idiot
>>he asks me if im hiding anything or im on any drugs
>>I politely tell him im not and I would just like to be on my way if he was done giving me a warning
Automatically assumes he's getting a warning...
>So you're fine with rolling stops
>running red lights
Well, the red light is not a binary state. The sequence goes like this.
0. Road A has the green.
1. Light A turns yellow.
2. Light A turns red.
3. Light B turns green.
4. Cars from road B enter the intersection.
Between 2 and 3, it really shouldn't count. Between 3 and 4 shouldn't be done, but it really doesn't hurt anybody.
>going 30km/h over the limit?
On main roads, absolutely. Speed limits are overly conservative and 18 MPH is no big deal unless it's snowing. Residential streets are a little different, but police don't patrol residential streets for speeding, now do they.
>Maybe the fact it was my first ticket ever since I got my licence 8 years ago, that I'm white, was well dressed, and drive a "sensible" car
or maybe you just sucked his dick
> "just don't break the law and nothing will happen to you"
In most cases, unless you live in a shit city, this is the truth, dumbass.
If you took the extra tenth of a second to use your blinker you wouldn't be filled with all this angst against authority
seriously, why do you murricans even need cops?¡ You can have guns and defend yourselves, and even conceal carry in some states. They're there just to suck revenues out of you
>They have the power to send us to jail or even kill us, of course I'd be terrified.
What cop is going to send you to jail/shoot you for changing lanes with no signal? Jesus, some people actually have legitimate reason to be afraid of the police, and you are just a total faggot.
Guilty as charged, I'm a gigantic faggot and he raped my face right on the side of a major intersection. Or maybe I was just honest and said it was a stupid thing to do and the cop was cool about it becuase I didn't act like an asshole.
I live in New York (the state, not the city). The posted speed limits on most of the highways is 55 (88 km/h). But New York has what's called 'the reasonable and prudent exception,' which means that cops don't bother pulling you over if you're following the flow of traffic in a reasonable and prudent manner. The highway I take to work typically cruises at about 70 (112), though I've gone as fast as 88 (141). I have never been pulled over for speeding.
Speed limits out here are overly conservative because they were written in the 50s. Cars have gotten faster and more maneuverable across the board, rendering the limits painfully obsolete. If they have more reasonable limits on your side of the pond then so be it.
My dad is a metro cop and he has to deal with the worst of society everyday. After the trevan Martin thing people (mostly all black) kept coming up to him yelling stuff like "hands up don't shoot" and "you fucking pig" and all that stuff. He has to deal with all that shit on a daily basis and you think he isn't going to start profiling people because of all the shit one group (blacks) of people give him?
except the city doesnt want to update the speed limits. because the way they have it set up basically OKs everyone to drive 70 but whenever a cop feels like generating revenue they can pull over anyone they want. its all about money, its a fucking scam. new york is a shithole
>Implying there's no independent, state-funded crime rate monitoring.
So you're saying they have no right to be mad at a corrupt institution? If your father had any principles, he'd have quit a while ago
So he's just going to prove them right, then? LOL. I knew you don't have to be particularly bright to join the police force, but holy shit. You're dad is one giant fuckin imbecile. And if you think you made a good point, then I'd say you're just as retarded as he is.
Yes that generate the report off the number of officer reports and arrests that are made and if no one is writing a report or making an arrest what the fuck do you think is going to happen... People self report their crime to the third party company. Lol stfu
>says the person sitting on his ass on the computer
>my dad had to be a cop because his old job wasn't making enough money to support our family
>he's been a cop for fourteen years
>he is one of the only two white metro police officers in his district in D.C.
>you're a asshole if you judge someone without meeting them.
I've had a cop have me get out of my vehicle for being too relaxed he didn't even ask me for my licence or registration.
>No one is as relaxed as you when talking to a cop.
He wanted to search my car I told him
>I do not give you permission to search my car
>Fine, I can just get a drug dog down here
>And what? Sniff my bumpers?
>No, you have to let him in.
>The dog is an officer and like you I don't have to do shit.
at this point I locked my car and stood there
>Am I under arrest?
>Am I being detained?
>Then good bye officer, oh and unless you want this video ( was bluffing up a storm here) ending up in the hands of your superiors you might choose your next actions carefully.
>Have a nice day sir.
He then power walked back to his car.
Which brings up another point.
Why the fuck are the allowed to draw their weapon for something like that?
Where the fuck else would I keep my registration?
What do you think would happen if I drew a gun on a McDonald's employee who suspiciously reached under the counter?
I was pulled over once and had to step out of the car. This bitch kept stepping back and taking a defensive stance when I leaned nonchalantly against the car with my hands behind me.
I understand where she's coming from but damn. I put my hands behind me to prop myself, and I'm fully relaxed enough around HER to lean back even though SHE clearly has a firearm when I obviously don't have one at easy access. (in my ass-crack wouldn't count as easy access)
Why am I the threat?
I'm white, driving a beat-up accord full of tools and wearing a bright green vest; a hard-hat is in the passenger seat. What profile did I fall into to be tagged as a threat?
Only cool cop I met pulled over me and my brothers in SC. K9 unit profiled my shiny Impala LTZ and out of state tags on 95. I know damn well he was looking for drug runners. He acted cool and wasn't accusing once he saw absolutely nothing suspicious. But tailgating me for 10 miles and giving me a warning for "following too close" is kind of insulting. Just say you were looking for drugs and thought I was black because of my car.
>is a fucking idiot
>HURR DURR ALL COPS WANT TO KILL US THEY'RE ALL EVIL
I'm not really sure if you're retarded or retarded.
>implying signaling matters
Uh, it does matter actually. Signaling lets other people around you know what your trying to do, which is vital in preventing crashes.
>not ticketing people for signaling the wrong direction or leaving it on by accident
People do get pulled over, or maybe even ticketed for these things. My mom got pulled over for driving 2 miles on the freeway with her blinker on, she got a warning.
because there are too many retards who have shot cops in the face by hiding a gun inside the fucking glove box smart ass.
this thread is literally filled with cancer.
I think I need to leave, I can't mix with this level of autism.
pic related, everyone in this thread is on the left.
It's definitely their fault. The training does not help, but they aren't doing anything to make that change either. They're pretty happy with the status quo of being untouchable, professional douchebags.
Piggies gonna pig.
Just imagine the level of douchebag you need to be to become a grown up tax collector hall monitor for a living.
Got pulled over once in my trusty ol rusty truck.
>officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
.me looking back.
OH SHIT! WHERE DID MY TRAILER GO!!!!
>officer: Tralier? were you towing it?
me: no. But next time just tell me ok?
>officer: they ain't never gonna believe this at the station.. have a nice day anon.
B/ro this all rebellious children you'll never convince them until they mature. And anyone here old enough has never even been on a ride along or any level of what they do to be educated they should watch some the videos explaining why they do what they do and theyll understand, but that's too much work for them.
I drive an old Caddy. Get pulled over for a "light" out or obscured plate frequently. Cops are tense till they see I'm white and I invariably get a warning and a "have a nice day!"
I'd be so much less pissed if they just came up to the car and said "oh you aren't a nigger be on your way sir."
And I will respond "Thank you officer go get bust some niggers!"
At least we'd be being honest with each other. I want those fucking jungle bunnies locked up too.
In all seriousness hVe any of you met an off duty cop before and talked to him. I mean talk, not screaming obscenities in their faces about how they're apparently dirty pigs or some shit.
All you faggots complaining about the cop(s), and all you faggots siding with them have something in common. You don't know your rights and you're both forgetting about using them.
I understand that cops are at risk in these types of situations.
I'd just like it better if there wasn't a double-standard.
You know what?
I'm done too.
I wish there wasn't a fucking double-standard on everything.
I used to good friends with the village cop. Small town middle of nowhere. He was cool as shit and gave me keys to shoot my guns at the township property.
After he quit they hired a nigger. Pulled me over one night. I straight up asked him "So you aren't from here are ya? My grandfather is on the town board he's the one who signs your check."
Officer nig nog gone less than 3 weeks later.
That's a request, and please tell me what asking for his badge number will do. You know they can ask you to exit a vehicle for any reason during a traffic stop? Even just to write you your ticket
Yeah we'll a cop approached me with gun drawn shouting at me and my GF to get out of the vehicle. After I gave my paperwork to him he let me go. Fucking pig inputted my license number wrong and thought it was a stolen car. Didn't even apologize and had this air of, well I'll let you go this time punk, even though I did nothing wrong
If it is a request, then I'll be on my way. Thank you for the warning and I will correct the hazard as soon as possible, enjoy the rest of your day.
>At any time you can ask an officer for their badge number, this unique identifier is important for waging a complaint with the proper authorities, if you or your rights are abused. Try to get it on your own without asking if you can, but don't try to obviously lengthen the LEO encounter
eh, at least he didn't murder you and your gf.
>look at the bright side
Yea I know what an ID number is and just cause he asks doesn't mean you're free to go. Usually they ask nicely until you want to be a cute nigger, then they'll just tell you to step out the car.. Be cause it's well within the law for people to step out the vehicle for the duration of the stop... That doesn't take any special reasoning besides the initial reason of the stop.
However, it put you in control of the situation, instead of just dumbly giving up your rights and remember, those who would give them up for safety deserve neither and will eventually lose both.
Also, if you ask to speak to a lawyer, they have to leave you alone, if they pestr simply state "I want to remain silent, I don't consent to warantless searches.
>you don't have to obey police unless you are under arrest.
after all, you are a law abiding citizen, right ? *wink*
I'm a cop an I pull people over for shit like this all the time. I usually do it at 2 in the morning on Fridays and Saturdays. I do it to find drugs, illegal weapons and DUIs. It called probable cause, that cop saw something in your car or thought you were lying about where you were. Just don't have anything sitting out that might be indicative of illegal activity and you'll be a squared away fag.
The united states police are childish men with an authority complex whom have no idea what the difference is between law and policy. This is due to a severely shrunkated training that spends only a month out of three covering law in any way shape or form. In addition, they perpetuate their own understanding of law with violence against peaceful persons by escalating the situation unnecessarily. While their only job is to issue a summons to court for peaceful persons, to let a judge determine the facts, not act in themselves as judge/jury/executioner.
Sadly, its not entirely the police officers fault for the police state we find ourselves. The legal system in general is broken and continues to write into law forty thousand "laws" a year, of which many remain without being overturned even if they're unconstitutional. This becomes a problem when jury's in the court no longer understand jury nullification, that they are trying the lawful nature of the law as well as the defendant.
This all works out according to plan because misconception endeavors in favor of lobbyists and big corporations, further cementing our corporate servitude and us being used as the revenue they seek.
Wow you're an idiot you don't have a right to a lawyer during a traffic stop... This was decided in a supreme Court case. You may have a lawyer during formal questioning and arrest. Not on a traffic stop... But yes you do not have to speak on a traffic stop... But it would be in your best interest to supply your documents if you don't speak otherwise they'll detain you under the presumption you're driving without a license or insurance
That kind of detainment is unlawful in its self, assumption is not law and only a judge can strip you of your freedom to move about. the only recourse and officer has in that situation is to issue a citation based on what few facts he has. But, you seem like the type that actually encourages violence upon peaceful people so you'll refute that too.
In my state you only need reasonable suspicion for a traffic stop btw..idk about this guy's state. He probably used his pc for the stop to investigate another crime this is called a context stop you know it all dumb fuck. So he didn't do anything wrong...
so you've summarily detained a person without probable cause to start, congratulations for violating someones civil rights from the beginning.
thats not lawful, that is tyrannical.
Sounds like my exact story except I was coming back from a concert at 3am. He was literally the only car on the highway. I looked like a total fag. Died blonde hair and painted toenails with no shoes on. I was praying my pupils were not dilated. 110 in a 70 is an arrestable offense. Luckily he didn't pop me when I maxed at 125 or I am pretty sure I would have gone to jail looking like a flaming faggot.
Shit the big city around me has 60mph speed limits. You can safely drive right next to the cops at 90. They don't give a fuck as long as the traffic is moving. State Troopers...Not so much.
You're already guilty of a charge that you got stopped for and yes in the US you cannot drive without a valid dl or insurance soooo if you don't show you are driving legally you will be detained that's just how it is. See you are the nigger that brings problems on himself. Just give your license to him what's the problem you were caught in a traffic violation you're just making it worse for yourself
no cop could really be this dumb, could they???? lol @ being nervous looking = "probable cause"
>>idiot pig doesnt understand premise of probable cause
where did you get your credentials Hightower, police academy 8?
OFFICER FAGGOT TO DISPATCH: PERP LOOKS NERVOUS, HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO INITIATE SEARCH OF VEHICLE
>"I'm just doing my job." I always wanna ask, "What's your price? If I pay you enough will you suck my dick and use the same excuse?" But I don't wanna go to jail or be kill.
I guess you will never ask huh buddy?
Enjoy the rest of your day, I'll be leaving now, if that's all and I'll try to not let your personal lashes out at me affect me in any way, after all, it could affect my driving performance and get me pulled over.
just so everyone knows, you never have to show a cop ID as long as you arent committing a crime or driving.
people have more rights than they realize. 99.9% of the people on the tv show COPS could have avoided arrest if they just kept their mouths shut and refused consent to search. so just remember, dont make their job easy for them.
>yfw police have killed more unarmed Americans since 9/11 than soldiers have been killed overseas fighting for your "freedom"
Keep lying to your self and continue to suck the long dick of the law sheeple
ITT: A bunch of whiny wannabe-anarchist losers.
Seriously. If a cop pulls you over and asks you for your license and insurance, fucking show it to him and let it be.
You aren't alpha for disagreeing, arguing, or bargaining with a cop. You're a moron. They have a thankless job to begin with, and your whiny bullshit doesn't make it any better.
again, something the courts can decide. Its not for police speculation, just do the job and issue a ticket for no proof of which ever bullshit you want and let the actual legal system decide. I have my fifth amendment, no one can compel me to incriminate myself or vice versa.
HOW TO NOT GET ARRESTED
>Step 1: try your very hardest to be white or at least not black or hispanic
>Step 2: try sucking the cops dick, we all like a good lewinski from time to time
>Step 3: bite dick off right before he cums
>no cop will fuck with you after that
Its part of being a good cop, sorry that you have anxiety around them. I know plenty of cops who have gotten drug mules and felons by noticing there odd body language, also cops will be a little tense during traffic stops sense that is when most police are killed.