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i really hope the tv tips over and cuts off your toes, but only so that you still can stand on your heel. would look fucking retarded if youve walked to your next mlp convo as some retarded appleshit or whatever its called
( i rate my post 9/10, but only 9/10 because there are not enough insults for a man watching a kids series )
>>611057569 I used to watch MLP with my sisters and friends a few years ago, but I stopped. It's just a show some people like because... well I guess it's relatable characters appeal to people. It gets depressed people out of the dark and makes them happier. I don't see anything wrong with that. What is wrong with it is when the cancerous side of their fandom starts preaching colored in horses to the heavens and giving the plush toys blowjobs. You know, the cringe-worthy side is really the side everyone points fingers at.
>>611058820 Nah I'm not gay. As to why so many people do it, everyone does weird shit behind closed doors, and I respect everyone's privacy but they're posting it on the Internet, where they know they're going to be criticized and for some reason flip shit when people say they're really cringy.
>>611058820 should people be ashamed of admitting what they like? the answer should be "no", but society gets in the way and dictates what is and is not acceptable to like in public. does that mean what people like should be free from being criticized? no, pointing out what's bad and what's good in a helpful manner is good for anything.
>>611059164 No. If you want to put it simply, there's 3 little groups of the fans. There's the guys who watch the show and you can't tell them from a person who doesn't watch the show because it's in secrecy and they don't talk about it. The second group watches the show, talks about it with friends and maybe wears a shirt but nothing more. The third group spends their entire day watching the show, has every fact memorized, tries to convert people into liking the show, etc. You know, the asshole part of the fandom.
>>611059326 That is a nice sentiment but are you free of criticism? Don't you have your own biased against other things? Be it beliefs, race, tastes, fetishes, wants.
You can't ask for something you yourself do not give.
>>611059418 Good for you then. I mean, you like something so go for it. I just hate when people like something that is obviously going to cause some looks or comments and then act like it was a surprise or uncalled for.
>>611059814 I am neither free from giving or receiving criticism. I do think some things are weird that some people would like; and I like things some people find weird. to my understanding I am giving and receiving what I ask for.
I may have worded me previous "criticizing sentence" poorly
>>611059326 Not always applicable though. Nobody is under obligation to respect anyone else's preference or indeed really anyone else. Respect is generally an earned thing. Society isn't an entity that chooses things as okay or otherwise, its just a collection of preferences. It is basically impossible for it to be unjust or just. tl;dr, nobody has to like you, and you don't have to like anyone else.
As for constructive criticism, preference isn't always based entirely on raw quality. Things like nostalgia and personal identification play as big a role. There are a good number of things and places I'm particularly attached to that in objective terms are completely unremarkable.
>>611060864 Yes, people judge everyone by appearances every day. That's not to say that you'd judge a Pink Floyd, MLP, and Swastika shirt by the same standards. If a pre-teen girl, old man, and black dude wore each shirt respectively, compared to an old man, young girl, and skinhead respectively, that's going to change how people look at them. Now, how the wearer deals with the situation, body language and reactions to others affects peoples reactions as well. Confident people usually have an air of respect around them.
>>611061510 This. Public display of preference tells people a great deal about what you are or at least how you perceive yourself. They're under no obligation to like what they see, even if you see yourself as "brave" for making those statements. As far as I'm concerned giving few fucks is one of the highest virtues, but that means actually not caring. As such you've probably not advertised in the first place, and if you did, you're not worried about being "accepted for who you are".
>>611058583 This. I started watching the show half a year ago. The show is so-so in my opinion, and it doesn't deserve the hate it does, but there's always those in the fandom that goes all out and be very, very fucking annoying.
>>611058820 No. In fact, most people in the fandom aren't gay. I know about 6 - 7 bronies in real life and none of them are gay, at least not to my knowledge.
>>611059164 I would never buy any merch, but I don't see too much problems with people buying merch. As long as they don't push it in front of other people. You don't see people have any problems with someone wearing "Attack on Titans" on a shirt, there really shouldn't be a problem with wearing pony merch either. But there is a point, everything gets annoying after that point.
>>611061117 yeah but it's not about respect so much as it's about people giving too many fucks. People care too much about what other people do that wouldn't really matter if they didn't give any fucks. When people start forcing opinions on others, or putting people down for what they like when it doesn't truly affect their everyday life, it gets stupid.
Criticism is such a subjective thing, it's based on taste and experience. Sonder is a word I'm particularly fond of. It's basically the idea that every single person has a life, just like you, that you'll never experience. Which is why criticizing can be both helpful and harmful.
>>611061510 So how would you react? I mean in real life. Not how you would like to react because we all know that sometimes that isn't our first way of reacting.
Also, by that logic, skinheads wearing swastikas, as per your argument, that are very confident earn an air of repect. That is fucking hilarious.
They don't earn respect for that just like a guy wearing an MLP shirt won't earn respect for wearing it with pride.
That's a delusion people seem to have to give credence to themselves.
>>611061750 Would this work with picking up a girl? I don't mean for the average guy, I mean for you?
As bad as it might sound, only good looking people can pull something like this off. A fat neckbeard acting like he doesn't give a fuck will still be judged on how much of a fat neckbeardhe is despite how much he thinks he doesn't care.
>>611062227 I didn't ask if you were gay because of MLP. I asked because you said you were watching it with your sister and friends. I assumed you meant girl friends.
There's a difference that you need to understand. A guy CAN wear whatver he wants on his shirt but it always has consequences. It could range from being ignored to being acknowldeged to being ridiculed.
Honestly think about it. You know MLP shirst will be ridiculed. You know that. It happens. Why still wear it if you're already watching the show because you have low self-esteem?
>>611062292 Our objective in living is not to be inherently unharmful. I expect straight people to make fun of gay people and vice versa. Its not like there aren't reasons to make fun of straight people. You worry about people caring too much about what other people do, which is apparent in a lot of regulation, but take this thread for example. OP wasn't witchhunted and found to be a brony, he advertised that he was. People are capable of weathering being made fun of. OP is or he wouldn't have posted. Neither fragility nor innocence are meaningful virtues.
Yeah, I suppose you're right, people know what they're getting themselves into and should think before they wear shirts and all. But it kind of seems very unfair that a fandom (especially the normal and cool part of the fandom) will get ridiculed for liking what they like and can't even do what they want like other fandoms.
>>611062358 Well, I'd probably not give a fuck what looks people gave me if I wore an MLP shirt in public, because I wouldn't be looking for how people look at me; plus I'd be a faggot and buy a low-key shirt, a symbol or something, but not an actual pony design. If I saw some guy wearing a shirt I'd probably say something casual like "hey, cool shirt" and then move on, probably nothing more probably nothing less.
I never said anything about "earning" respect I said they "have" respect. Small difference in my eyes. You normally *earn respect from* others and *have respect for* others. You can also earn and have respect for yourself. The skinhead wearing their swastika can *have* respect for themselves, but also not *earn* any respect and more likely *lose* respect from others.
I stand by what I said and will elaborate on it a little: Confident people usually have an aura or respect around them, be it from others or from themselves.
>>611063280 Nah, bloom and gloom was so-so. You got the hang of it as soon as the second dream starts, but the first dream was cool though. Although it didn't make much sense about how she knows about the pest bugs.
I've talked plenty, people will get mad at me for talking more I'll see you on /mlp/ or something.
>>611062358 And it won't matter. The idea is not that pretending not to care should get you results. The point is actually not being that worried about it. Being made fun of is not a big deal. There is virtue in understanding that. I'm not exactly speaking from the world's most privileged position socially, though not the worst. I spent some of my life bothered by being outcast and then decided I wouldn't be bothered. As it happened I did stop being totally outcast because, lo and behold, a great deal was self-inflicted. Still kissless at 20, and I'm pretty average. Its not about whether you get results, its about whether you're happy. I like things people give me shit for liking, and its not a huge deal. The key is its not just you, its literally everyone. 4chan is a good illustration of that. >be short, get hated on >be tall, get hated on >claim literally anything about yourself, get hated on.
Its not sunshine and rainbows, but its functional, free, and more honest than the alternative. >tl;dr, Timon and Pumba are right.
Since when has life been nothing but unfair? I like fucking fat girls but I don't wear that shit on a shirt. If somebody asks me I won;t deny it but I don't fucking parade it around either.
>>611063395 I get the whole wearing a logo or inside joke type of shirt. I think that's pretty cool actually. It's just that if you're a grown ass man and you wear some MLP shirt with some pony or horse or whatever the fuck they call themselves, you shouldn't be surprised that you ARE going to get looks or get talked about. It's a target.
>>611062946 I'll be honest, I really don't like that first sentence, I think it's poorly written. Are you proposing that humans' purpose is to want to hurt each other? because I would be apt to disagree. Average humans do not wish to afflict harm on others.
As for expecting people to make fun of others, that also seems like a blanket statement, that is both true and false if looked at over a period of time. Say a straight and gay person meet each other, they make fun of each other and become good friends, happy ending. Conversely, they can make fun of each other but someone's humor is just slightly different than the other and one gets offended, they resent the other for what they thought and no longer speak to each other, sad ending.
As for OP, yes. He knows where he is, he expects "OP is fag" and "MLP is nice", and he accepts that. If some newfag comes along and gets butthurt but "MLP is lame" and rages then newfag needs to chill the fuck out.
>>611063841 Samefagging here: Worthy of note that looking for results in that is basically saying women shouldn't be able to turn you down because you're a neck beard. Women can turn you down for whatever they damn well please; they're people. >Inb4 edgelords sperg about women being property. Companionship, sexual or otherwise, is not a right. If you want to change how people see you, you have to change how you look, not how they look at you. To change how they look at you would be to change who they are. Reverse that quickly. Let's say you are into MLP and as a result you don't care for people who hate it. This precedent would give them the right to change you to be compatible with them.
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