This is the first picture of Jared Leto as the Joker. Thoughts?
Terrible, Fucking terrible.
In the near Future, race and gender will become a thing of the past, as will species identity.
Skin color will be ever changing depending on the Desires of the User. Translucent, luminescent, Radiant skin that can change at Will is going to be the norm. As Nano-technology and other Genetic enhancements become a reality, Race and Gender will become a thing of the past, as long as people are Free to make a choice in the matter of their own bodies some will Remain Natural, although the Tech will be so prevalent that it will probably be in, and around you whether you like it or not.
>privacy and choice may end too, resulting in a forced hive Mind.
God, I hope we can overcome this technocratic slavery.
This is so awful. Looks like what happens when Marilyn Manson decides to become the Joker. It's awful, and that stupid queer "Damaged" tattoo is the icing on the cake of queermosexual.
Needs to get rid of the Damaged tattoo.
he was good, but Heath brought in a genuine kind of feeling to the part, that was very believable and very unsettling. Nicholson put on the make up, and acted out the joker. Heath became the joker
not gonna lie, I like it. No, he probably won't be as cool of a persona as Ledger's was, but I take no issue with the visual aesthetic. The whole point of comic book characters is that they continuously get re imagined in various forms.
heath was the most accurate depiction of the joker. a completely chaotic force of nature. one working class, psychotic, lump of flesh quasi-philosophically musing on the complete absurdity of humans trying to make sense of their life. just gutter trash, sweaty poorly applied make-up on a hobbling midget.
I think the grills are really gay. I don't have a problem with the tattoos other than the damaged one. I do think they should be shittier looking though. As in they look like he did it and not like a professional did it. I'm alright with it. The movie will most likely suck but I'm alright with this
I like Jared Leto as the Joker cause he's just a strange guy and I think he'll do a great job.
But the tattoos may not be the best. I can't imagine the Joker with tattoos. Imagine that fucker just sitting there. Who the fuck would actually tattoo him?
I doubt he can just like sit calmly while waiting for that shit.
The Joker does not shop at fucking hot topic!
Fuck you Hollywood!
hes way too fit, the joker has always been weak hes skinny but not muscly, he needs to get unfit, also tattoos are shit, generally wipe the tattoos cause sincw when has he had tattoos. like jesus hes untrackable by anything he sure as hell wouldnt have had tattoos and wtf teeth
>yfvw I have brought order to the chaos.
>yfw I was Batman all along.
Oh my god. I hope this is bullshit. I know Jared Leto posted the picture, but I fucking hope that's not actually how he'll look. The actor seemed great for the look, but that picture is complete trash.
What the fuck is seriously hard about getting the look of pic related into film?
Never read the comics. Not a student of Joker history. But I couldn't agree more. I could see him having maybe a half done tat, because, you know, he killed the tattoo artist.
Mark Hamil captured the spirit of the Joker better in the animated series imo--for a kids show that shit was pretty dark and gritty. Not saying Ledger was bad, because lets face it he was the only good thing about the movie, but the Animated Series nailed Joker, and Batman dead-on. The movie was trying too hard to reinvent him, and give him some sort of purpose and motivation, where aside from being Batman's nemesis, he really has none. Plus Harley Quin was a product of the show, and she's equally as awesome as the Joker.
He looks like what Joker would look like if he was real in modern times.
>Grill is probably because Batman punched his teeth out.
>Deranged psychopaths tend to have tattoos some time.
Overall, it reminds me of a mix of Zasz, Heath Ledger's Joker, and a meth addicted inmate.
>Just have to wait for Leto's portrayal of the character.
is it really? i thought they were gonna go extreme with him but those tats and grills are fuckin stupid.
and I don't see the problem with that. Literally every comic character has had visual revisions every few years. it didn't "ruin" Batman when the removed the nipples from his suit.
it's from the batman comic books. They have been around since 1939 and are still being made today, as well as feature movies and children's cartoons and even a live action tv serie with Adam West back in the day.
The Joker is a pretty popular character in modern pop culture. I imagine this is because he fits into the trickster god that our ancestors worship and idolize even to this day, prevailant in characters such as Puck, Loki, Anansi and so on. Also Heath Ledger played him in a fairly reverent and well acted manner in a recent movie. Many people feel that Ledger's sudden and untimely death helped imortalize his portrayal of the joker and so any attempt to play him again will always now be compared to that.
Personally I think that the best interpretation is by Alan Moore in the Killing Joke but there we are. Alan Moore is a dark god amongst men and should be rightly venerated and feared. If you ever try reading comic books I reccomend his titles. Also, maybe you should get out more to educate yourself on other popular cultural figures.
So yeah, hope this has been helpful.
The smile would be tricky. Unless you get Julia Roberts
>left abandoned by parents continuously
>one day the robbers finally win and gets brutally raped
>years and years of meds and therapy never cured him of his PTSD
>always living in his head wondering why his traps did'nt work
>while in the mental hospital dedicates his life trying to perfect his elaborate traps and gadgets
>His dad snaps from years of bitchy wife
>Blames his son for his marriage going down hill.
>Tired of the kids depression and frowning that he cuts his cheeks to form a smile
>10 years later becomes the red hood in order to hunt down his rapists and get back at society
>all of gotham feared him and his gadgets
>except one man
>was the only one who beat his traps
>lost and fell in toxic waste
>ever since he has been using batman to test his traps and gadgets so that they one day reach perfection.
You can't see his ears that well, I bet he does.
>Luke Skywalker is the only real Joker
This one knows what's up.
I can't answer the question the way you phrased it. There aren't certain parts that specifically define what I'm saying. The character was far more complex than typical villains are. His motivations and perspective were nuanced and complex, slowly revealing themselves as the film progressed. He was portrayed as a very highly intelligent person who was very self aware, someone who chose to be what he was because it's what he wanted.
I'm not an huge comic fan, in fact I hardly ever care for them or films based on them. TDK was an exception.
Well yeah, maybe, except that's not at all the origin story of the Joker, what the fuck is wrong with you?
i don't know. the boy might seriously not know who the joker is. Not everyone reads comic books and watches tv and goes to the movies and has internet you know. Stop being so judgmental
Can someone explain to me why the joker has tattoos? Why would the Joker allow anyone to stab him repeatedly? Where's the joke in that?
Other than "kids these days", what reason is there?
I'd pay to see that.
Dafoe could totally pull off the character too.
he was in 30 Seconds to Mars
which means he can sing and act.
well you can dwell in a basement, get fatter, bitch about bullshit
and have the super power of having your mommy buy your clothes.
Pffft, you call that a troll?
Was that supposed to get me upset.
Step your game faggot, that was fucking pathetic. Cliche, predictable, and totally irrelevant.
Dude no bat nipples totally ruined Batman. The fuck you on about?
Seriously tho what I was getting at was that the two pictures don't really look anything like each other. But I wasn't insulting the new joker faer from it because I don't really care about the remake one way or the other because
1. The Joker and who plays him should be judged more on acting as the joker to me has always been about how he acts more than how he looks.
2. Cape movies are dead to me after the latest avengers movie.
>yfw they replace Harley with a faggot named Harold
i'm with you there, but I just think they do look alike, except for small details like the tattoos and and such. I just consider those small details.
I can easily be sold on the joker being an inked out freak, it doesn't strike as that far away from the character's persona. maybe it hasn't been done before but so what? could be cool is all.
Rather that then someone like [spoiler]sarah silverman[/spoiler] who a lot of people said they wanted. That being said WHAT THE FUCK? Wasn't Harley Quinn a main character of Suicide Squad?
Does anyone else wish Marvel and DC would do a crossover with Deadpool vs the Joker? If done right that could be the most awesome battle of all time. Knowing DC and Marvel and their past inter-company crossovers though, it would probably end up sucking. Still if anyone is crazier than the Joker, it would be old Wade.
Are there even comic book fans anymore who doesn't live inside a TV screen? Besides Kevin Smith and the company he keeps, of course.
Also, I don't think TDK's Joker chose to be what he wanted, but rather it was Bruce Wayne who wanted to be Batman and Joker just can't help trying to destroy him. He really isn't meant to be intelligent as he really needs to be impoæsive, and that's what would've made him more an expectional villain - someone who can't help but destroy.
My jimmies cant handle this amount of stress.
They're doing Deadpool right. I wouldn't want him anywhere near this joke of a Joker.
>Removing Harley Quinn from Suicide Squad of all things.
DC just can't help but fuck up their cinematic universe can they?
Oh.. That's what it reminded me of. Yeah, makes sense.
Is that what you cal stepping up your game?
For fucks sake son. Stop posting, just fucking stop, you don't have what it takes.
Sit your ass back lurk some more and learn how to fucking trool.
What you should have done is said that I was a pleb for not seeing all of Jared Leto's arthouse trash, pretended you were a pretentious snob and then had a good chuckle as you fucked around with me.
I would have bit on that shit, and it could have been funny.
Calling me a basement dweller or an autist is the most overused troll on 4chin, you see it in every fucking thread from some uncreative cancerous twat who just wants to run their mouth.
Trolling is an art, learn it, play me for a fool, have a good laugh and I'll fucking applaud you for it.
Lazily call me a neckbeard and I'll call you out for being the lazy uncreative, caancerous, newfaggoty, twat that you are.
>the romantic spark from before will still be there
but that's so typical of villains in general. Evil for the luls has been done to death in everything. To me the only point in continuously revamping comic characters is to add some nuance to their archetypes.
All I remember about that movie was the depressed old woman on the game show and ASS TO ASS!
ASS TO ASS!
ASS TO ASS!
It was pretentious as fuck.
>completely obvious self-referential tattoos
>because he's the joker
>because he's damaged
>because he's deranged
>his own grinning mouth
>because he's the joker
>did you remember he's the joker u guys
holy fucking shit this is some Hot Topic fishnet wallet-chain level of cringe. why doesn't he just have a tattoo of The Killing Joke inked across his chest and a face tattoo that reads, "I AM THE JOKER."
otherwise we might not get it. those tattoos are too silly for ICP fans. it's like a bunch of 50-year-old-Hollywood-executives'-described-an-iParty-costume-over-the-phone's idea of the joker. i can't believe they let this see the light of day, then again they're idiots.
1. This is not a Batman movie.
2. The Joker will only be a small role in this movie.
3. If the only reason why you know of the Suicide Squad is because Jared Leto is playing the Joker, then you aren't entitled to an opinion lol.
Inb4 he has like 5mins of screen time.
Inb4 movie is shit anyways, like most comic movies.
For fucks sake.
Alright, I'm just going to do my best to ignore this piece of shit film and pray that it doesn't destroy the character.
Its hard to portray a comic book character as a real person because oh how limited you can make an on screen character
Ledger does the role justice. Ive seen Nickleson and his insanity as the role but theres a deep psychopathy as the most modern joker.
Ledger is a true to life joker
Nickleson is trying to be the comic
you need to step up your rant game.
Derivative and vapid exploitation of an empty mind.
I would say shame on you, but you wouldn't understand why.
I don't really have a problem with re-imagining characters for adaptations, as long as it's not fucking retarded in return. In fact if done good, I welcome it.
It's just that Hollywood rarely does shit right when they do this. Nolan's adaptation, really wasn't all that bad of an effort, on paper at least. The movies themselves though, are kind of boring. Like I said Heath Ledger was the only good thing about it. Had it not been for him (and probably the fact he died soon after making it), the movie would be either forgotten, or compared unfavorably to Batman and Robin whenever it did get mentioned--not to say that that's really a fair comparison, but you know it would be made, a lot.
I'm on 4chin, clearly I've got too much fucking time on my hands.
I guess I am mad; but not because being called a basement dweller cut deep into my soul rather because its a lazy excuse for trolling and it pisses me off that I see it constantly.
nicholson is just jack nicholson
heat was the dude who played a cowboy who got fucked in the ass
in fact, if brokeback mountain were an analogy using the two versions of the character, heat would be the bottom, all day erryday
Heat Legend's performance as the joker was beyond every expectations from the audience. Like Daniel Day Lewis usually does, Legend immersed himself completely in the character, creating a unique state of mind, mimics, way to move, etc. His delivery was flawless. THIS is 10/10 acting.
Nicoleson was pretty great too, different, but great. He unfortunately had some awkward moments and the movie didn't age so well, so that doesnt help either.
Leeto's performance will probably be awesome, but the "cool-freak-Mansonesque" direction taken for this character will never top Legend's interpretation.
Honestly i'm excited as balls for this. It looks very different from some of the other jokers, that having been said i'll reserve judgment until I see the smile. That is the defining joker characteristic.
i'd say the entire body language. unstable body frame, shaky limbs taking on a life of their own, like the whole body is decomposing, a well-formed first-order predicate formula dissolving into its atomic components or a complex dynamic system in a 3D space creaking at its rusty joints. chaos somatized. something like that.
> clowns to the left of me
my fucking sides m8
ITT: Heath Ledgers fanboys who can't name a single other movie Heath Ledger was in or read a single comic book in their life
Nolan never gave Heath's character enough screen time in any scene to see how 'immersed' Heatth actually was.
If nearly every Joker scene had about 5 more seconds of camera time we wuold've no doubt seen an amazing performance...but due to the way the film was shot and edited, we got a decent performance of an oddball character in a shit film with no depth or character whatsoever.
It's over guys. They win. We lose. All we can do is sit in our rooms and hide, trying to ignore it.
> implying the editing in a Nolan movie ruined a perfectly delivered performance
you must be new to this
How the fuck do you know? We're you there? You watched the dailys? Get oout. Heath did a good job, but he didn't Daniel day Lewis that shit. He got the Oscar because he fucking overdosed on sleeping pills. He didn't lose his mind becoming the joker and he didn't have some groundbreaking performance. It was good. Not great. Just like Nolan's trilogy.
looks like it was "designed" by a 40 year old trying to look cooool with his younger fellas
*YOU'RE* one of those people that thinks standing in front of a camera and pretending to be someone else is in some way hard and worth the millions of dollars they're paid, aren't you?
>Im pretty sure trolling is having fun at making people mad.
Ahhh; but that's where you're wrong my friend. Trolling is fucking with people's heads and having a good laugh. You might be making them mad, you might be making them get freaked out over how weird you're pretending to be, its not just about getting them mad.
Also I'm not mad.
5/10, because I said..."Also, I'm not mad".
>never sleep again
>everything we dreamed of
mostly this. the other tattoos, the rusty grill, fine.
but bu saying that "damaged" obv is a moment. WHO DOES THAT TATTOO and why does joker let anyone fucking tattoo that long enough before obliterating them.
how long do you think the joker takes to stand still for a tattoo.
thats one unpredictable fuck.
it's not his title. his title is joker not damaged.
that's without even acting the goddamned thing, just the greasepaint and a smile.
Cesar Romero, son.
Come on man, from what Hollywood has to offer, he's one of the best. Alright let me rephrase that. He's one of the most interesting, mostly for his original stories. Who do you like better than?
Nolan is not that shit tier, neither is the editing. I agree with that you say, just not for this particular movie.
why are they trying that hard?
The POINT of the Joker is that he's FUKT up but wear's cute clown getups.
He wouldn't have DAMAGED tattooed on his fucking forehead like a hipster
Jared Leto's Joker is a cross between Killing Joke & Frank Miller's Joker (where he is a bit beefier and has tattoos)
As for everyone spreading negativity you need to remember Heath Ledger is NOT the only version of Joker & Jared is putting a unique spin on the character with still some comic inspiration. Bleached skin, scarred body it looks great. I'm waiting to see him in action, his personality will make it or break it for me but one thing is clear, he looks crazy
Joker has had tattoos before decades before movies came out
the hahahahaha text is from The Dark Knight Returns
Bateman-Batman-the bait man...
"Bail sailor, bail, bail, bail"
Why am I not surprised at all that the connection continues... You called me crazy, but you'll see I was right.
Nolan didn't edit the film you fucking idiot. You don't like Nolan. We get it, but don't say dumb shit because you clearly have no fucking clue how the industry works let alone a production
Friggin' human torch in Fantastic Four is black now too, so why not?
Nick Fury, he is black, you know, just like in the comics.
But of course the human torch is black, he is always on fire.
Ledgers joker was supposed to be a more believable type of criminal. Also despite saying he wasnt the kind of guy with a plan and that little pep talk about chaos, he executed some majorly detailed crimes
mfw we'll see dickbutt in the movie for like half a second