Who else agendered here?
>I don't fit the profile for gender roles therefor gender is either malleable/doesn't exist!
Still soaking up cultural marxist shite, huh? While you say you're agendered, you still either have a cock or pussy between your legs and the chromosomes within your DNA scream your biological gender.
Post a pic of yourself faggot(s). I'd love to see how non-ambiguous your appearance is and how /b/ could quickly recognize your gender.
Nice to see you appropriate the title of a school of Buddhist thought, this way you can show how much of a special snowflake you are!
>what the fuck is so hard to understand about this?
Mentally ill people don't adhere to objective reality, they 'feel' they're different. Liberals and progressives support their claim to show everyone how 'caring' and 'open-minded' they are.
>sex and gender are different
Sure, if you're a bat-shit crazy cunt who adheres to the sexologist John Money's arguments. (Money, by the way, redefined gender vs sex to justify having a child patient become 'female' after a botched circumcision. Afterward, he systematically raped the boy).
So go ahead, parrot the arguments of a drug-addled pedophile if you want you degenerate piece of shit.
Cis isn't a gender. Cis is that thing you call people to feel superior when you are't
>I am a male
>I was born Male thus my gender is male,
Granted I don't have to apply to all manly things
doesn't mean I'm not man.
You on the other hand have this Delusion your not a man by gender cause you like sucking cock and fapping to ponies. Go get help for your metal disorders.
You can either go back to www.tumblr.com with the absolute bullshit spewing from your sorry mouth, or you can accept the fact that you can't choose what gender you are. If you have a dick, you're a man. If you have a vagina, you're a woman. If we're not including hermaphrodites, there are literally no exceptions to this rule. You need to accept life, that not everyone gives a shit about your "gender" that you decided to become five minutes ago. Fuck that, you ignorant anti-intellectual. This is why I moved out of America, the place is turning into a shithole, in part because of you special snowflake gender people. You are not "agender," that is a bullshit term made up by Tumblrinas like you who whine about the oppressive patriarchy. These made-up genders will exist only when Switzerland declares war on cheese. Fuck you, go to hell, you liberal faggot. You liberals are the cause of all of our problems.
If you were born with a penis and identify as male you're cis... It's not that complicated.
I'm actually attracted to women and have had a girlfriend for the past 2 years. I'm asexual so I allow her to sleep with close friends of mine because I know it would be nothing more than just sex.
>Please don't enforce labels onto me, consider the gender/nongender that I say is mine
>But if you're born a male, you're cis
Nice double-talk you fag. You advocate the notion that we should respect other people's preferred pronouns and gender, yet you yourself have to qualms in labeling other members of society.
Lmao you fucking hypocrite.
You're so fucking ignorant and stupid.
I said if you're born with a penis AND identify as male you're cis.
Of you're born with a penis and identify as a woman you're trans!
Of you're born with a penis but don't identify with either gender you're agender!
>I'm asexual so I allow her to sleep with close friends of mine because I know it would be nothing more than just sex.
MY FEELINGS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSES FEELING PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION ABOUT SOMETHING NOONE CARES ABOUT PLEASE IM A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION PLEASE
>be human person being who likes to do
>you are what you do
>you do what you are
>not a gender
>be person and do things
>your value isn't based in what you are
>your value is based in how much you can do
>now be you
>be a faggot
>think you are worthy as much as you feel
>think nobody should judge you and have special treatment
wake up kid, everyone is judge everyone based on something, either you like it or not is just part of life, like death, and you can't change that.
I like you.
>I let my girlfriend
But girlfriend is a lable based on gender and you're "Agender" and don't lable people.
You're nothing but a delusional hypocrite and need mental help.
Also if she needs to get sex elsewhere cause you're not up the task, what kind of person are you? holding her back from a real relation ship that fulfills both end of the spectrum.
I really hope war comes to America. It's the only way to clean it or gene pool from inferior and weak strains like you and your type. You offer nothing to society and the only value you have would be slave labour.
43fag here. I remember being this scared of all things concerning sex and gender issues. When I was around 13 I was so afraid I might turn out to be gay I also acted out all aggressive towards everything that made me think among other than strict, binary, heterosexual lines. That took a lot of energy and I am very happy it all ended raher quickley, and so it will for you as well, when you get a little older and feel comfortable in your bodies and sexualities. I turned out straight and that works for me, but I'm sure gay or trans would have worked out too, I would just have had to deal with a slightly higher number of assholes growing up.
>Holy shit some one else gets it!
No really that is the perfect explanation. You anon deserve all my Internets.
Doesn't want to be labeled gives self label of "Agender" yeah that makes a lot of sense there anon. To the nut house with you!
If you don't want to be labeled you also give up the right to label/use labels on other people, like cis tran girl boy. basically you have no right to speak ever and need to be locked up.
You can't only have the good and take none of the bad, you're not a special snow flake. Get used to it, wake up, go get help.
>Some people ITT are actually defending OP's delusion.
Here's the problem. It's self-centered. Some of you fags might say: ''Gee, y'know, it's his mind and body, he can say he is whatever he feekls!''. Go ahead, take the utilitarian stance.
But just know that in doing so, you spit on all that is empirical, objective, and factual. We have made us of philosophy and the sciences to get to where mankind is today. If you allow OP's rhetoric and start blurring the lines of what (x) and (y) are, then why stop at sex & gender?
Fuck it, start debating over whether or not water is wet, or if it's correct to label plants, animals and other living things with names and designations.
See how far we get as a society if we start going backwards and choosing ignorance for the sake of another mentally deluded person's feelings.
Bottom line: reality doesn't give a FUCK about your feelings.
Anyone else here suspect this who gender-identity obsession thing is just another fucking fad?
I work in education and have done for quite a while now, and I've seen a few of these fucking identity-politics / victim status / mental illness things come in waves and they're almost always fronted by the same kinds of kids - fucking middle-class loudmouth white kids who have a moderate level of intelligence. Just total vanilla kids. It's always these ones who want to make themselves out to be more complex in order to be considered interesting.
Self-harm came and went.
'Anxiety attacks' came and went.
Now we're onto this whole fucking gender politics bullshit that will come and hopefully go, soon.
I'm genderfluid and ace!
High five, OP!~
They/them pronouns please and also I'm only sexually attracted to anime characters
Mostly husbandos that I love so much
>mfw at the neckbeards in this thread who are mad about female bodied people not being cis
OP is faggot.
You don't understand how God made everything.
Males and Females.
Same for birds, animals, etc.
>inb4 but no i'm based on hyenas
The thought of having sex with real people grosses me out and it always has.
I only find myself attracted to anime characters.
But I don't take out my body pillow in public or anything cringey like that
I work a normal job and on the surface look like just another small girl
As for my gender identity, I really wish I had a dick
I wish I could also make my Ds vanish into thin air
In short I want Ramna powers
I'm a faggot and I acknowledge it
I take /b/s side over Tumblr on most issues
If we begin to struggle on how we define the human organism, then what hope do we have in defining the external world? Sure, it's slippery slope, but it's currently infesting Academia. It won't stay contained within the topic of gender studies and sociology for much longer.
It will spread to biology next, wait and see.
I'm guessing OP Is:
Never suffered any real hardship
Moderately intelligent, nothing special
Plays a lot of vidya
Spends just *shitloads* of time on the internet
Is actually pretty boring
Is not really very good at anything and is just about intelligent enough to know this....
And crucially; is a homosexual
THUS; OP has decided that simply being a fag is not enough to distinguish him from the crowd these days as they're pretty much completely accepted so has had to resort to this whole fucking 'nature made a mistake with me!' bullshit in order to have *something* to talk about in his crappy boring town.
Victim status is valuable commodity. You'd be foolish not to try to acquire if the opportunity arises.
anime characters are hot.
Cirno mai waifu.
The "let me look at your genitals" crap is so fucking autistic, and the "let me do a chromosome test!" thing is even worse.
When you interact with someone, just normally, you are interacting with their personality, so if their personality is female they're female, if male they're male, if agender then I guess that too.
oh it's really, really easy.
if you have a pussy and cumming inside it can get you pregnant, you're a girl.
if you have a dick and you can cum inside a pussy and get the girl pregnant, you're a boy.
if neither then you're fucked up.
I would deliberately call you 'he' just to antagonise you and watch you freak out.
If you give me a guaranteed way of offending you just by using words, I'll take it every time dude.
Personally, I am interested to see how far these people can take this. Like I hope the Otherkin and random people who identify as tractors, trees and celestial bodies get more of a foothold.
Cirno is a QT although I prefer Patchi myself if we're talking Touhous
Nah man I can pretend to be normal just fine
I work a job dealing with people anyway
The problem isn't that we're struggling to define what a "human" is, this whole thing revolves around self identity in a social context, not a biological one. The crazies who do try to say they're not biologically what they were born as are a minority, and won't have any significant impact on this discussion. At least, it seems really unlikely that they will, and I fucking hope to god we never get to that point
i mean what you DO and why makes you know you are important and different, not what you FEEL.
Do you have any project for your future or dream, do you practice or study something? you know, something aside thinking about sex or gender...
Hmmm. Not that I dislike Patchi, but why? Just out of curiosity.
I've had a thing for blue hair for a while, and I actually was into hentai before regular anime. One of the things I was into was fairies.
That, and Cirno is a fun person, also can be assertive, but has a cute side.
And, I've always kinda been an Autumn/Winter person myself.
Is it the case now that anyone that applies any level of common sense and/or scientific standardisation to something that is already perfectly understood considered 'autistic' now?
Are we that much of a feminised society that any expectation for a rational application of actual known facts are looked upon with disdain?
>Whines about gender roles based on masculine vs. feminine
>Then goes on to adhere to said roles by asserting that fabric and clothing dictate gender identity
This is why SJWs are laughed at. They'll claim the water is poisonous, but will drink from it anyway.
Take the issue up with God.. the one who made you and the one who throws faggots in Hell forever.
Didn't say that. Nice straw man you got there. Never said every conversation has to have such constraints.
But when a conversation *does* have those constraints, y'know, the use of established fact - do you get all shitty about it??
Thank you c:
I like being called a boy sometimes ~
I do, anon!
In fact very few people irl know my lack of sexuality and gender identity.
I do a lot of writing. I'm a self published author with a decent following (inb4 "prove it" not here /b/ tsk tsk)
I may also go into an IT job
I definitely share your kink for blue since it's my favorite color....
Patchi reminds me a lot of myself, and I'm also into selfcest.
She loves reading, wants to stay inside, and purple is my second favorite color.
Her hair is super long too which I love!
What a cutie!
Winters are too much for my small body, Anon, I need some ice faerie magic myself...
Honorary mention: Marissa
Witch outfits are 2cute4me
I love how these post-modernists all want to tell us the notion of gender is now irrelevant but they're using a completely feminine set of values to assert their beliefs.
Sensitivity should always supersede fact.
>the use of established fact
How are you going to establish the genitals or chromosomes of your local shopkeeper then?
Give a non-autistic answer, and you win.
Give none, and you have to accept that you are solely interacting with his personality.
>implying Yaweh is worthy of anyone giving a shit about his child like inflated ego
Dafuq is this tumblr shit? I leave this hell-hole for 2 days and I comd across this cancer? What's next, fucking catkins?
Agendered anon, here, this crap does not matter. There are only 2 things you need to know.
1. Have boobs? Show 'em or GTFO.
2. Have a dick? You're a faggot. Your sexuality and/or self-assigned gender has nothing to do with it, you just are one.
Back to all the questionable shit /b/ has to offer.
you are the gender that your chromosomes say you are.
there are only 2 options, male of female, such as it is with all animals on this planet.
your 'gender identity' is just you playing pretend, and playing pretend is no way to go through life.
no amount of hormone treatment, so called 'gender reassignment surgery' (a.k.a. body mutilation), or whining will change the fact you were born a certain gender, and that it is impossible to change that gender, regardless on how you feel about it.
the problem isn't between your legs, it's between your ears.
every single thing you like, and what you like it with .. He made
so.. if you're an ungrateful bitch.. maybe go for the ice now
I don't have to use anything like that level of scientific investigation, if he obviously appears to be a male, I'll consider him to be a male.
If you were to approach 99.9999% of the planet and start treating them as though their sex was unknown to you until they vocalised it, you are going to be treated like the autistic one, not me.
Not who you replied to.
You're exaggerating this anon's point. He's not conducting a 'scientific experiment' on whom he meets IRL. But if you can't admit that influence of perception, that is to say, that first impressions do not enter our passive consciousness, then you're naive as fuck and will argue for the sake of arguing.
You go out into the street, you meet a woman. Part of you fucking takes a microsecond to acknowledge it's a woman, what color her hair is, the tone of her voice, her nuances and her expressions.
Same for anyone you meet. It's an analysis that we take for granted, but is still very important.
But hey, you'll keep yammering on about this feel good 'personality' shit as if having a persona is the most important thing that defines us as humans. So go ahead.
sexually Identify myself as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly.
I'll have you know that you triggered me. Water can be dry if it wants. Hell I just had a cup of dry water.
And so when he tells you he is not?
Also what do you do if you are not sure?
This has drifted far from your appeals to "established fact" to now "what they look like to me"
Hiw can you be gender neutral? Do you piss out of your asshole? It's easy you fag, if you poss out of something dangling from your genital area (no matter how small it is) you are male. If you dont, you are a female. Feel free to tank me for saving you a fortune on years of threapy.
Do you realise how few people have these issues? Do you have any idea how vanishingly small the number of individuals who feel as though their gender is not right is?
It is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of humanity. Just so so small that it does not warrant any level of debate.
And you tell us that we shouldn't go around just 'assuming' people's sex. Get your head out your ass.
It doesn't matter how small the group is. Only one counterexample would do.
I'm not saying we shouldn't make assumptions about someone's gender. I'm saying someone is the gender they say they are. That's the only reasonable way of doing it.
Can't go into specifics dear Anon I would give myself away
It's fiction tho
'What they look like to me' and 'what sex they are' has proven to be an almost totally reliable scientific method at this point in my life.
Go ahead, ask me how many times I've seen someone and thought 'that person is male / female' and I've turned out to be wrong. It turns out I'm pretty fucking awesome at working out people's sex just by looking at them. I don't think I'm alone here as well, I've known pretty much every other human to correctly identify someone's sex *just by looking at them*. Almost never have I know someone to get it wrong.
It's an incredible skill. I know.
So when you think someone is one gender and they think they're another, most probably the person who is right is you (who only just met them) rather than them?
This doesn't even include trans people. It could just be a dude with long hair.
nothing is bait when you're off the hook bitch
so asexual here. So when do MAPs get sexual identity rights?
It's basically the same thing.
Doesn't really matter how little errors happen, what matters is what you do when you DO get it wrong.
>Carry on asserting you're not actually wrong... for some reason
It's weird and pointless to do the second.
>faggot and friends scream in movie theatre
>told to shut the fuck up
>faggot and friends confront woman outside
>woman calls faggot queer
>SJWs want woman dead(read youtube comments)
If you think about it we are all animals. Go back 50 years. No one could get their dick cut and turned into a pussy. Because the technology. We are born a way for a reason. THAT IS NATURE. And if your gonna be a god fag and say "God knows what I need to be" he woulda made you that trigender pyro fox. Fuckin faggot. You are not a special snowflake. Your the same decaying organism as everything else
I see. Interesting.
I can see the reading and such. She does have a nice personality and interests.
I just feel with her, what is it anemia AND asthma?, that she'd be really quite in bed. And with her personality, I doubt she'd be a dom.
Cirno definitely seems like she'd be running the show at least sometimes.
>Honorary mention: Marissa
I agree with you there. She's definitely a close second.
Actually, she reminds me of me. Almost identically.
I watched a number of the doujin anime of Touhou, and that and the Wikia are where I get a lot of my info, but she seems to like adventure (like me), but she can't be bothered to get up early (like me), but when she DOES get up, everyone needs to be ready to do whatever (also like me).
She may not always WANT to do things, but she feels it's necessary (like me). Then, when others shirk their responsibilities, she gets pissed and does it herself [like when Reimu wasn't trying to solve a few things] (I have so been there, done that).
Also, being a magician, doing a lot of the stuff herself, she's a self-starter in that sense.
All-in-all, she's actually a decent match... for who I'd be most like. But, a lot of the earlier traits would be a freaking nightmare with 2 people like that.
I mean, could you imagine:
>HEY! ANON! GET UP ALREADY!
>5 more minutes...
>Marisa! We gotta go do that thing! C'mon c'mon!
>It's easy; just go do it on your own. I'm tired...
But, she's definitely nice, too. I just feel having nearly identical personalities, with nearly identical flaws would make for some really stupid and frequent arguments.
ikr, but trans/agender "rights" leads to pedo rights. I get that non-thinkers have no concept, but pedosexuals, like transexuals, were also made by God, so what's the problem?
Jews introduced mass social cancer as soon as they got their hands on Hollywood and TV..
and all the other shit like politics and regulatory agencies.. etc.. name it if it's crooked you can buy bagels there. and tickets to watch other people eat the fucking marked-up bagels.
if it was egyptians or gypsies that did the shit we would be saying that. it was the jews and it is the jews
>I don't care you're a child
>Don't disrespect adults
>Call Child a queer and to shut the fuck up
Its like /b/ making no sence and spitting garbage out of their mouth,
Lol what a cunt A gender LOL my name given at birth is tom i diddnt like it so you can call me ZEN BECAUSE IT SOUNDS TEH KOOL shut the fuck up you tween cunt >.> this is why people get the shit bullied out of them they go out of there way to make people hate you for trying to be a special snow flake...
I never get it wrong. Never. It's never happened. It will probably only happen when I meet one of you people who pretends to have a mental illness in order to make himself / herself interesting.
I'll state again that there are so fucking few of you that this is just such a non-issue. Completely fucking pointless discussing it because happily most people on earth will go their entire lives not having to encounter the bullshit of the Special Snowflake brigade.
If it does happen, here's how I imagine it will play out:
Me; <refers to someone who is obviously male in appearance as a male>
He: 'Oh I prefer to not be referred to be gendered pronouns'
Me: Oh sure ok <continues referring to the guy by male pronouns and just chuckles the fuck out the situation watching him get all upset because this person will never be my friend or acquaintance in anyway so I may as well have fun fucking with the pompous self-invoved prick>
i'm guessing you did the bullying cuz you didn't understand or were a simple primate.
But if you're for asex, then you're for gaysex, you're for transex, you're for pedosex, you're for beastsex, and you're for objextsex.
Crazy, I know
>anemia and asthma
Damn anon you have fine taste I like you :3c
Patchi is more the type, like me, to prefer reading about adventure than getting up to go do something herself.
Mostly because of her health but also because she's lazy, I suspect...
Marissa's spirit is cute! I like her attitude and how she needs to be pampered to an extent, if only by herself
V nice pic I would fuck a snow fairy if I had a dick
I would fuck so many anime girls
Gender is a social construct of acceptable stereotypes for what your sex determines at birth. Idealy people should not have things like agender or oposite gender but since traditional societies asigns these roles to men and women. People dont want to fit in BS Boxes
>I am a gender so you must worship me
No one gives a shit about the fact that you should be in an insane asylum
>obviously male in appearance
So you would refer to someone who was born a man but has had surgery etc. and now appears as a woman as a woman? Or would you try and work out how they were born? What about intersex people?
funny story. Gays have rights. Trans have rights. Asex is just trying to ride that train and they'll get them. Pedophiles will get rights too once governments recognize it as a sexual orientation
actually i was the bullied kid shock horror !
But when i see people like you trying to be absolute cunts for no reason your Gender identity means NOTHING to ANYONE
Gender is an observable remark live with it dont like it dont look like it !
Dont go being a jack ass crying about how your Agendered and such wank your just missing social identity
Oh that's easy;
99% of the people who had surgery to change from one sex into another always look weird and not at all like what they tried to make themselves into, so if the person is wearing women's clothes and make-up, that person is a dude.
It's real easy, trust me.
Intersex people are like one out of a hundred million people or something so I really don't care to have any strategy for dealing with them and to be honest I'd prefer to just not have to talk to them at all because they're just fucking annoying, like you.
Just because I do not have any offspring or dependents does NOT mean that I am not a parent. I am simply a parent trapped in the body of someone who is childless.
it's funny how the trans/gay people all shut the fuck up when i say shit like that though.
Basically, being straight is normal. We all got out fetishes. Being gay is, whatever, but it's I guess accepted.
Everything else is equivalent to legalizing pedosexuality and everyone shuts the fuck up on that one.
Anon-kun....d-do you have a waifu shrine?
We'll a husbando shrine...