Why the fuck do american servers beg and mooch for money? Why do they fight for their right to do so?
Typical American server: "I hate having to be nice to creepy men for my living wage,"
Oh why dont we get rid of tips and just pay you 20$ an hour then?
"I love tips they are great I make lots and lots of money don't get rid of tips pleaaaaase I need them. they help me in-between college and a career"
Cooks do not receive tips, and generally make far less to do much harder work, sweating next to hot ovens and moving constantly.
"Well then pay cooks more dont get rid of muh tips!"
All you americans are like this: Large corporations like Walmart hire thousands of workers at 20 hours a week, and then sign them onto food stamps, passing the burden of wages onto the american taxpayer. Same thing here, the restaurateur wants to take more vacations, so he shifts the burden of paying his employees fair wages to us, the diners.
"But i love tipping! My boss will just charge you more!"
I don't care. I'd rather things were honest, and your boss told you exactly what your salary is, and I know exactly how much I will pay for this food, without having to calculate if you deserve 10%, 12%, or 15%, or 8% if you sucked, or no tip. Wouldn't you rather have an income you could budget around, where you know exactly how much you'll make?
"No, I NEED MY TIPS"
Don't you realize that fighting for your right to act like a mooch to hungry people makes you a pawn of your boss? That he loooooves what you're doing, because he only has to pay you 2$ an hour?
I have a checklist when I go out to eat. If the waiter/waitress don't follow my list their tips go down until there is no tip.
I don't tip very often, I explain to them afterwards when they give me a dirty stare why I didn't to help them improve and they tend to ignore it and complain about how they don't make anything and I shouldn't go out and how it's so hard.
I tend to just walk out when they start to bitch
Unless you can be open and honest about why we should keep tipping, i'll always oppose it, and i'll always be in favor of a higher base wage.
All i hear from you is
you're too poor to go out
BUT I NEED THOSE
stop being secretive and tell me why you want tips.
Are you kidding? Tips are how every service industry should work, in an ideal world. Most people feel obligated to pay at least a certain amount, so it provides steady income. A lot of people with shittons of disposable wealth tip way more than they have to, which helps with redistribution of wealth. Service employees are incentivized to provide higher quality service because a happy customer gives a better chance of a large tip, while an upset customer might just not pay shit.
If all of the service industry functioned on a tip model, the bar for good customer service would be raised, pay all around would be higher, and people working in shitty jobs would have pride in what they do. If you worked in a print shop and busted your ass on some big order for two days, and made it fucking perfect, and then that customer dropped you like a 200 dollar tip, you'd feel amazing. You'd be so proud. The way it works now, there's no incentive for you to work fast or do a better job. You're going to make the same 9 dollars an hour either way. And most of the service industry is like that, there's no REASON to even give a shit about your job, or take pride in what you do.
Waiting tables is one of the only jobs getting it right.
heres my opinion and your welcome to disagree but whats the difference between a tipping and non-tipping system, one is a level of service and the other is a responsobility of the customer.
statements like that that say that you should tell the server before? why? like theyd give you a lower level of service, well then they dont deserve to have a job because thats discrimination. It provides an unnerving request and makes an uncomfortable environment.
A full wage makes a more reliable source of income aswell as removing the uncomfortable need to request money from your customers more from what they already pay for.
Waiters make shit loads of cash from tips, far more than a buisness could ever afford to pay them, even if the restaurant took a huge pay cut to pay the wait staff, which takes away from the customer's experience.
>Waiting tables is one of the only jobs getting it right.
No it's not, a $50 steak brought to the table vs. a $10 sandwich is the same amount of effort, but entitled little shits get angry if they're not tipped the 20% of $50 (lmao $10 to bring me a fuckin hunk of meat on a plate, w0w so effort much job). The disgusting part is that by now, it's institutionalized because most restaurants/deliveries don't actually count tips for tax purposes, they just assume a percent of the bill so now these workers actually have a "reason".
Abolish retarded tipping systems, increase wages across the board, and fire employees who can't do their SERVICE job correctly by servicing the customer properly.
>If all of the service industry functioned on a tip model, the bar for good customer service would be raised, pay all around would be higher, and people working in shitty jobs would have pride in what they do.
A shitty waiter will always be a shitty waiter even if they're not tipped.
Plus studies show that people who use credit cards tend to tip more. Studies show that if waiters draw a smiley face on the check, tipping is usually increased by 5%. People do not tip for service, they are not objective enough to.
I have no problem with tipping.
However, I don't think servers and the like have any room to bitch. They took the job knowing there wouldn't be a guaranteed wage. You don't see salesmen bitching when they don't make a sale; they just work that much harder to get the next sale. Same concept.
So stop bitching when you don't get tipped.
Sure, I want to tip. I go to eat to the restaurant because I fucking care about your problems and I want to do a good action.
Topkek. If I have spare $5 bill, I'll give it to a hobo without a job instead.
You're right so take money away from the quality of the food and the quality of the restaurant and raise the overall price of the food, making it even less desirable than a grocery visit.
Why even have restaurants? Let's just get rid of em.
"Abolish retarded tipping systems, increase wages across the board, and fire employees who can't do their SERVICE job correctly by servicing the customer properly."
restaurant owner here.
is this cutthroat industry, any full-service restaurant that decides to adopt your brilliant policies will be out of business within a month or two.
go back to community college
Servers make far more money than any other employee in the restaurant, other than the owner. They try to avoid saying this, and whine about how difficult and poor they are and how customers are big meanies, but they make a shitload of untaxed income and try to keep that a secret. And heaven forbid one person doesn't tip them, they'll immediately upload a photo of the receipt onto twitter.
It is reliable you goddamn moron. If the base wage is not met by tips, the waiter is paid by the restaurant, which tells them who gives better service and who doesn't stand up to par, thus a higher standard of waiter is kept on the wait staff overall.
Right, thats why there are no restaurants in eurofag countries, and everyone there always cooks all their meals. And eurofag restaurants are known to be shittier than american restaurants. okay
I'm a shitty waiter in America and I tamper with people's food all the time. The fact that the tip actually makes me feel more empowered. Right now I have a bottle of Lexapro pills ground up that can't be tied back to me and I mix it in stuff I can get away with. It's enough to make their stupid kids sick for a couple days.
>implying a successful business owner is a failure
Oh, so what, you're the CEO of a fortune 500 company or something? Or maybe you're just in college and think you're gonna be hired out of it with some kind of 600k per year job.
If they don't know your arbitrary set of conditions in the first place, how are they supposed to meet or exceed your standards? You're just autistic and they aren't mind readers, and since they're not just serving YOU (with your inability to get out of your own ass, you egotist), your checklist is of no use to them when presented AFTER the fact, captain hindsight.
With that said, the tip system is fucking broken. Instead of having one boss, it's like you have a main boss that sucks and pays you shit for bussing services, and then every customer you serve is another boss that pays a share of your wages based on arbitrary standards that aren't made known in the first place, so the only incentive is to not completely fail to get the food out or refill drinks because exceptional service is not standardized and your tips are going to vary regardless.
Tipping is a class act to show a great service. You do it when someone serves you food, you do it when someone valets your car, you do it when someone checks your bags and takes care of them. Jobs like that are about going above and beyond to make sure your customer is completely satisfied. And if you don't tip so what I will make enough that your cheap ass doesn't hurt my daily take.
wait.... so you just poison the food before you even know if they are good tippers or not? That's not really applicable to the current discussion. That just makes you a sociopath.
Jesus christ for someone without an education nor a real job, you sure are entitled.
Dude, we don't owe you shit. And among the shit we don't owe you : the list of our conditions we deem appropriate to tip you.
Fuck, you are the reason I never tip. The entitlement of you slobs is just mind bugling. You are paid to serve me. I don't come to a restaurant to hear you rant nor to get you free money, I'm a client not your boss, so put my meal on the plate and do your fucking job.
I guess everyone who replied to you is a dirty waiter as well.
>You're a waiter
>And YOU'RE a waiter
>Everybody is a filthy table bird
>"May I take your order sir"
That term hasn't been used in the academic literature for many years. If anything it would be psychopath, and very few people are psychopaths. Most convicted felons are not psychopaths.
It doesn't, you faggot. We're literally one of the fattest modern countries in the world because our tipping system works so well.
There are restaurants in other places
There are far more here
If you are advocating for the tiping system and you are a waiter, you are retarded but at least you are advocating for your interest. Sort of.
If you're not a waiter and you are advocating for a system that fuck up everyone, starting by you as a customer, you are purely autistic. There's no way around it. So I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, out of generosity. That's my way to tip.
You serve, what, eight in an hour?
Let's assume they leave a $5 tip for their meal.
No, fuck that, let's assume half of them don't tip.
You're making 20 an hour. Shut the fuck up.
No, if you're going to a restaurant that serves $50 steaks and you just order a $10 burger, you're obviously just trying to go to a fancy restaurant that you really can't afford to be in. The server will see that you ordered the cheapest thing on the menu, probably just with water, and treat you like the pleb that you are. You've wasted his time so you can feel better about your tiny cock.
Give me one good reason to give any money to a waiter. One good reason.
And before you do so, operate under the assumption I don't give a shit about your problems or the way you perceive me.
Wait staff don't make minimum wage because their wage is supposed to supplemented through tips.
If they'd pay staff minimum wage then I'd say tipping should be abolished but until that happens you gotta tip.
It's fucking retarded, but that's the way it is.
>If I don't take my pills I see waiters
>In my bedroom, on the walls, up in trees
>They always ask me to tip them for shitty service but I stand firm in my beliefs so they can't jew me out of my hard earned money
well, the guy owning the restaurant? Chad Duncan? He's so stupid he couldn't make it in college so his daddy had to hire him at a franchise restaurant.
Anyways, Chad over there is going to go out of business if we get rid of tipping, because the only thing keeping his shittily managed shitty business afloat is the fact that sheeple are paying his employees wages.
Luckily idiots are lining up to tip, ensuring that every year Chad gets a new range rover
please, think of the Chads
What really pisses me off is that in washington state where im from. Servers cannot be paid less than minimum wage but people here still think they are entitled to tips.. Fuck that I am not tipping unless you go above and beyond what is ultimately regular service.
Nobody said anything about working in a restaurant. I can just recognize a cheap little poser like you. Stay mad, poor, and stupid kiddo. The rest of us will dine in places you shouldn't be allowed in, and tip properly because we aren't failures at life.
Waiter here at a fairly popular chain
I rubbed my ballsacks on a ladies toast once. Another time I jerked in the bathroom at work but before that I stuck some of my precum on a ladies Salad. It's immensely satisfying watch people eat their food after u fucked with it.
Tip or my semen is in your food
>Sheltered American thinks the rest of the world doesn't have restaurants
Your country has lived but a blip on the radar of others, stop thinking your crumbling economic model is working, trillion-dollar-debt-shitlord.
.....no it doesn't, retard. There are three options:
Owners cut their personal expenses. Most will do this.
Wait staff will only make a mere 15$ an hour. many salty tears.
Restaurants will start buying circus grade meat. they will go out of business. fuck them i dont care.
There are much worse thing going on and basically we are all debt-slaves. People shouldn't get such deplorable wage that they need tip to get by in the first place.
>Higher food prices and lower quality resturants
>"DUH I SAID I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS"
God fucking dammit you're stupid. Thank god though, I wasn't sure about the tipping system but now I know for sure that only retards like you don't tip.
>go to chink restaurant for months in new town
>always go pick up my food after work
>one day the whole family is there doing shit around the restaurant
>paying for my food and this old chink cunt asks me why I never tip
>tell her its because I am picking up my food
>she doesnt understand, girl who is checking me out looks embarrassed as the old cunt just presses the issue for a long ass time
>never go back
fuck the chinks, I like Indian now.
Sorry, the illegals took all the low-skill construction / farm jobs. Serving is about all that's left for those that can't afford college. The only reason the illegals haven't stolen the wait staff jobs too is because they can't fucking speak English.
Europe masterrace here.
Our servers make minimum wage so we don't have to tip.
Some of us do tip tho, but only if:
1. We can't be bothered with 1,27тВм change
2. The server is hot as fuck
3. The server actually EARNED his/her tip, by being super friendly, fast and doing an exceptionally well job in general.
Fuck you if you think I'll tip you if you just bring me my shit.
Niggaplease. Whats the point in paying less for food if you have to give money to the retard that brings it on your table ? Give me the food and I'll pay the price. I'm paying for that, and the price of your service is included in the bill.
>The only reason the illegals haven't stolen the wait staff jobs too is because they can't fucking speak English.
Just wait till the sjw feminist fuckjobs make that a unacceptable reason not to hire them.
You're a fucking moron
You'd be paying twice as much for half the quality of food, as well as watching paint peel from the walls and the toilets breaking in all the bathrooms.
Or you could pay the exact same price that you would pay anyway and not have to look at smelly bathrooms and eat grade F meat, but nah, you don't like tipping huh?
You're exactly as stupid as you're afraid you are.
Do you even work at a restaurant?
>$20 is ridiculous for a job requiring no education
>Cooks are paid more
>Servers need to be nice, a tip is an incentive for the server to be nice as the more the customer likes server the more money the server gets.
>If you don't tip, and don't comeback great. If you do we will fuck you on your next meal. Expect an hour and a half wait time while the server ignores you.
> If you don't want to tip go to a fast food joint where nobody cares about you. If you want a sit down meal with a person dedicated your wants and needs go to a restaurant.
>Also tips are collected same day and are not recorded or taxed unlike regular pay.
>Additionally restaurants aren't very stable, some days they have nothing, some are packed because of special irregular events. Tips allow pay to fluctuate with these times. Rewarding busy servers with more pay, while saving money during slow periods in which they do nothing but talk to other servers.
Lastly and most importantly restaurants are run by their owners and they decide how people are paid in their business. Your fucking suggestions mean dogshit because its not your business and you are not the one getting paid. Now if you were a server and wanted to start some union of servers calling to abolish the tipping system that would be a different story, but as you said "I love tips they are great I make lots and lots of money don't get rid of tips pleaaaaase I need them. they help me in-between college and a career" "But i love tipping! My boss will just charge you more!" (he will) "No, I NEED MY TIPS"
>It doesn't matter how many tables they're at.
Right, because eight people at one table is the same as eight people at eight different tables. Totally the same. No additional logistics involved at all.
OP I know your post is Troll Bait however someone people believe it
those people dont understand the restuarant business.... at good places like the one I work at they go home with 400 - 700 in a night, they only work 1 or 2 nights a week but that is their income most of them are studying.
If it was hourly servers wouldnt have your interest first. It would be the business and our food industry would start to suck over time.
also no one would want to be servers... and you cant just pay 20 an hour for any position or you wont have a business ahhaha.
im a dish washer for now, I wont go into why I landed here at age 30 but im crawling back to life. THe nice restaurant business is where you want to serve... thats where the money is, and dont be afraid.. all the servers are cool most of the time they are all also on drugs or at least smoke weed.
and dont be intimidated by the nice places.... all the workers are middle class most likely living with roommates.
its fun, fast paced and lots of chances to hook up with each other.
>If you pay the tip the quality of the food magically improve
>It's like you have an effect in global economics when you go the the restaurant
I'm not that powerful. Even if tiping had an effect on the overall quality of the service (which it doesn't) the fact I as an individual do not tip will bear no significant impact on it.
So not an acceptable reason. Try again.
Then the amount or resturaunts that you won't want to eat at will be higher in places without a tipping system, and lower in a place that institutes one.
It's literally an economic rate, regardless of your personal opinion.
If by "can't afford college" you mean "can't pick and succeed at a degree that will offset the cost of college after taking loans", then yes, they should definitely stay out of college and keep working minimum wage. I don't think that justifies any saltiness over having to work minimum wage, though.
European here as well
Do Americans really tip everywhere?
Like, if they go to the cofee shop and order a croissant and a coffee, do they tip the waiter?
I have never tipped in my life, but my parents have whenever they went to classy restaurants(the kind of place rich people and politicians and shit like to go to).
>>If I tip the quality of the food will magically improve
Haha holy shit retard. If the owner has to pay out of pocket for the wage of the staff, how can the quality be maintained as before?
You're like a child. You can't even reason properly.
OP has typical level of american arrogance and attitude directed towards americans, within know how the fuck america really is. Most servers get paid below minimum wage, which is already not a livable wage. Lots of people favor a strait forward, set, livable wage. The problem is the politicians are in the corporarions pockets and they oppose it because they would lose money. That and republicans are brainwashes into believing that by opposing abortion and denying global warming they are magically a part of the small wealthy portion even though they live in a shit trailer park
Funny how faggots like you think it's noble for illegals to work low skill jobs, but a white who is poor or dim-witted is a massive failure.
Keep sucking that cock anon, you're dumb as shit.
>Like, if they go to the cofee shop and order a croissant and a coffee, do they tip the waiter?
That's a cashier, not a waiter. Generally they have a tip jar for if you get change back, you can dump a couple coins in and it's split between the employees.
So what you are saying is that there is no working food industry in Germany or anywhere in Europe for example? I worked in a restaurant for a while - i got 7.80тВм/h was friendly to the guests and did my job as i was told to. Do you want to know why? Because i was a student at university and had no qualification to be paid more. Waiting is a non-education job. Deal with low wages or learn something.
My part of the deal if paying for the godamn food. Not to pay someone else's workers.
If you can't pay your workers, don't start a business or do the service yourself, faggot. Either way it's not my concern.
I'll eat, and I won't tip, and you will say thanks, until you give me a reason to do so.
Miss any of your obligation and I'll report your ass.
As an American I'd be in favor of switching server jobs to a 20/h median wage. Of course, considering inflation, $20/h is still less real money than minimum wage was a few decades ago.
Of course, considering *actual* American minimum wage is literally about 50% below poverty level, that's not saying much about our state of affairs other than WE ARE SERIOUSLY FUCKED here in america. Whether a server wants to be fucked with tips or without tips is sort of a moot debate except that servers would male more I'd they had a higher paying steady salary so cheap fucks like OP could allow the employer to help pay the miserable wage of the server rather than the consumer.
Seems like they do... And the best thing actually is:
They get fucked by their bosses (paying them shit), and they let out their frustration on their customers.
God bless America
Yeah, actually I can deny it. There's a whole bunch of scientifically supported reasons why obesity is becoming an epidemic, and not a single one of them has anything to do with the economic viability of running a restaurant.
>X and Y are topically related
>therefore X causes Y
Let me know how the inside of your ass smells
>a white who is poor
If they're poor and smart, they take loans and then get a job to offset the loans. That was my entire post. That's what I did, and I'm finishing paying off the last of mine this year.
> or dim-witted is a massive failure.
I didn't call anyone a failure, I said if you can't do anything worth notable value then you should work the job that pays you minimum value. What's your point cuck?
>My part of the deal if paying for the godamn food. Not to pay someone else's workers.
Shit logic. You'd be doing that anyway even without a tip system. You're just saying stupid shit to get mad about, like a ham fisted retard.
>If you can't pay your workers, don't start a business or do the service yourself, faggot. Either way it's not my concern.
Who the fuck are you to tell a buisness owner how to run his buisness?
>I'll eat, and I won't tip, and you will say thanks, until you give me a reason to do
I'm not a waiter, bro. You're projecting like a serial killer who stabs hookers while screaming mommy over and over.
You make a really powerful point, but are also blinded by the same thing American servers are. Just like servers have the wrong target for their angst, so do you in your discontent of tipping.
Considering American employers are so highly skilled at minimizing theor costs and getting their consumers and employees to cover them, perhaps this thead should be titled "Americans need to demand fairer wages and a ties society, you're all being scammed and it's the fault of your employers, not the employees or the consumer's fault."
Isn't it interesting how we're all pitted again each other when at the same time we know who we should actually be targeting, but don't because we know we can't reach them?
>You'd be doing that anyway even without a tip system
No. I pay for the food+service. I'm giving my bills to the restaurent, not to you. What happens to the money when it leaves my hands is not of my business.
>Who the fuck are you to tell a buisness owner how to run his buisness?
I think you misread "either way, I don't care". And when I write I don't care, I mean it.
You can be paid 100k a year or in food stamps, I give no shit as long as you fulfill your obligations. And I'll make sure that you will.
>I'm not a waiter, bro.
I'll consider you as a waiter for the length of this discussion because there is no way a rational person could defend the tipping system without benefiting from it.
Jesus christ, you're angry about a completely innocuous statement aren't you? It's more of a joke because the main point is completely accurate. The United States has a higher rate of resturants than in Britain or wherever. Stop trying to teach me logic when you can't even understand that the main point is completely valid, and that breaking down an anecdotal statement justifying it doesn't change the reality.
>Isn't it interesting how we're all pitted again each other when at the same time we know who we should actually be targeting, but don't because we know we can't reach them?
It is. We could, if we worked together.
>I'll consider you as a waiter for the length of this discussion because there is no way a rational person could defend the tipping system without benefiting from it
Kek. if someone disagrees with you they're a dirty, dirty waiter.
All the people that aren't mad and stupid ITT already know that. The wage law needs to be changed and fuck businesses that are so shitty that they can't operate unless they have slave labor. That goes for all businesses, agriculture specifically.
Nice trips tho.
And like I said to the fag you linked, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. That's a gift I do to you, because I think it's more humane to think you're a waiter than a retarded kid.
Your main point isn't valid just because you're able to string together pieces of information with no basis or evidence. Here, let me try
>fast food is the most unhealthy
>you don't tip at fast food restaurants
>so having restaurants where you tip makes people healthier
And for the record, the UK's obesity rate is higher than the US's, so way to shoot yourself in the foot there.
none of these arguments make sense. i've never heard of any waiter who would reject $20/hr in favor of tips. And, keeping in mind that waitstaff are paid ~$3/hr, how the fuck are you arguing that cooks make way less?
2/10 because you made me reply
Because of the availability fast food and processed convenience meals. Unless you somehow think McDonalds and Taco Bell are the pinnacle of culinary art and service your argument holds no water. American citizens aren't getting fat from eating at Le Bernardin three times a day.
God damn butthurt americunts.
Here's what's really happening.
Corporations rule your fucking country and fuck you in the ass every day, and you complain every day.
>we are the 99%
But then when it comes to tipping you don't give a fuck because you think you actually need these, when it's just your employer buttfucking you. This is why corporations rule your country. BECAYSE YOU LET THEM.
Same shit with guns.
>people die from guns
>WE NEED MOAR GUNS
>people getting payed shit
>WE NEED MOAR TIPS
The problem is the fucking corporations that you let butt fuck you.
>How did you come to that conclusion
>"I'll consider you as a waiter for the length of this discussion"
You're retarded and you have bad memory? That's a wicked combo dude. Not to mention you think waiters are out to get you.
This is the type of person who lives in a society where tipping is customary and does not.
A wildly hallucinating retard with bad memory.
Top lel please go get your food spit on some more
I don't tip because the money go to the servers and nothing goes towards the ones that actually make my food. I rather go to the balcony, say what I want and come back later to pick it up than paying someone to bring it to me and be paid more after tips than the cook itself.
If a place divides the tips between ALL employees, I do not care about tipping.
Growing up, I worked jobs as a caddy, bus boy, waiter, then bartender before graduating. Honestly, if you don't tip, you're either a nigger or you're a fucking douche bag. If you're gonna get emotional about $4 - $7, you obviously don't make enough money in the first place. Tipping is fun and charming. Have fun trying to fuck that bitch you're taking out after some waitress just went off on you for being a cheap asshole. If you don't tip at bars, have fun finding it more and more difficult to get a drink as time goes on and being sober by the end of the night.
But I kinda feel you OP. Honestly, I have zero sympathy for the kind of waitress you say you've encountered and she sounds dumb as fuck. First off, you never go off on a customer because you represent the image of the company/restaurant you work for. Secondly, if you're getting this emotional over this ONE table's tip (or lack thereof) that either means one of three things: 1.) This restaurant doesn't have enough clientelle to pay you well. 2.) You're a shitty waiter/waitress that's been making equally shitty tips. 3.) You're employed at a retaurant in the ghetto or in a neighboring community and you should get a job someplace else.
Btw- as a side note, jews tip generously at restaurants. Just not at the bar or to a caddy.
>You're a waiter
>You're a waiter
>You're a waiter
>You're a waiter
>YOU'VE DENIED BEING A WAITER FOUR TIMES NOW
>I THINK THEE DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH
haha you're a trip dude
No you're right you know exactly what I was thinking you stupid faggot
You stupid, stupid faggot.
Can you teach me your psychic tricks master? Pwetty pwease?
>I'm retarded so I'll just call it backpedaling
Looks like you're forward pedalling into a creek full of aids and hilarious embarassment
>With tips and wages, regulation is the problem.
Deregulation is the problem. Being a waiter is a job and should be paid by the owners, not the clients. And it's not being a socialist than to say, it's the job of the state to insure companies act ethically and pay their workers according to their work.
What you see is just deregulated capitalism on crack, and a prime example of what happens when you don't keep owners on check.
>haha you're a trip dude
At least I'm not a waiter
>Have fun trying to fuck that bitch you're taking out after some waitress just went off on you for being a cheap asshole. If you don't tip at bars, have fun finding it more and more difficult to get a drink as time goes on and being sober by the end of the night.
Oh sweet, tipping is such a nice system because it allows waiters and bartenders to extort money from customers with the threat of denying them service or publically humiliating them, as opposed to treating them all well without acting like entitled little cunts.
I used to bartend before I got a "real" job and I was paid for my work by my employer. That's how it works where I'm from (EU). Tipping was completely optional but welcome, and everyone in the kitchen and wait staff got a share, adjusted for hours worked. The restaurant did absolutely fine.
o and also, alot of the the US debt is from bailing out shit-tier countries when their citizens start to kill eachother. even if we are only a blip, we're a blip thats collaborated with and saved other countries many times.
>with no tests done
>background checks aren't enough
>felons can't buy guns is not enough
>mentally medicated can't buy guns is not enough
>we need some thought crime analysis done
Meanwhile blacks buy guns for $50 on the street and commit murder hours later. But you're right faggot, more laws will stop that.
>Oh sweet, tipping is such a nice system because it allows waiters and bartenders to extort money from customers with the threat of denying them service or publically humiliating them
>hurr durrrr not paying someone for work and being surprised that they won't do the the work anymore is being "entitled"
go die in a fire asstard
I was in montreal last night
>Go to a club called "kingdom"
>Walk up the stairs into the club
>Lady takes my jacket and checks it in have to tip her
>Doorman directs me to the man who seats you
>Have to tip him
>Man frisks you and shows you to a seat
>Have to tip him
>Order a beer
>Overpriced as fuck AND HAVE TO TIP THEM
>Talk to a sexy alt blonde and agree to go back for a few dances
>HAVE TO TIP THE HOUSE FOR GOING INTO THE PRIVATE DANCE ROOM
all of my wat
Well atleast the girl was super sexy and gave an amazing dance. Plus in Montreal clubs are full contact.
>hurrrr I went to a club and got fleeced
>complains about it
You don't tip a percentage of wine cost you fucking faggot, that's not how tipping works.
If I'm a server in a restaurant selling bottles of wine for hundreds of dollars, part of my expertise is knowing the nuances of each wine and helping you decide. It's not as easy as you telling me what wine you want and I got and fetch it. Source: Was server in high end steak house with extensive wine cellar.
I'm a line cook, and your retarded. I respect servers and the bullshit they are handed by people like you. you probably have never seen the back of house have you? The fucking shit me and my bros.(including servers) have to go through for you (the dumbass customer).
This. When I was a server, if my boss offered me $20/hr instead of taking tips I'd take that in a fucking second. 8 hour slow shift, still pocket 160 bucks (before taxes, I know)? Fuck yeah.
sweet rebuttal dude.
>hurr durrrr not paying someone for work and being surprised that they won't do the the work anymore is being "entitled"
I'm not sure where you're getting this from. My position is quite clearly that employers should pay their employees and that tips should be optional. Nobody's *not* getting paid.
>be mentally retarded
>no records anywhere
>oh i see theres no bad records. heres your gun
>shoot up school
this is what americans actually believe
No after I got the awesome dance I went to the club across the street and had the time of my life there. And I didnt have to tip 4 people on the way in and ended up getting a hand job.
That's how a restaurant I served at tipped. It fucking sucked. I have good work ethic and would bust my ass, and pick up other people's slack. At the end of the night we get tipped the same.
Yo, I totally agree with you. Don't behave like you are entitled to a tip, and I might tip.
Fuck all these MUH TIPS faggot ass bitches:
Normally you sit or stand around getting your ears blasted, realize that all the hot girls are either with a rich guy, are prostitutes, or know the club owners (or several of all), pay $12 for a rum and coke and leave. If you're smart you learn from this experience.
I am ALSO a restaurant manager. [Italian restaurant near Dodgers stadium in Los angeles]
I pay my servers 22 dollars an hour. They can still accept tips, but the tips come to the counter where the customers pop it into a slot with their server's name. I take a portion of it, and in turn base their performance on the amount of tips they get. The highest tipped waiter can keep his whole tip jar for that week.
After I adopted this my profits has gone up about 6~7% since last quarter.
Tips don't make any sense. Why should Applebees workers get tips? Mcdonalds workers dont... or Burger king?
Besides, Applebees doesn't even cook any of their food, they just reheat in microwaves. Their meat comes from factory with grill marks on it.
Workers at Applebees or Chilis don't work any harder than a Burger King worker.
Maybe for a high end restaurant tips make sense, where they cook everything fresh to order. But for low-tier restaurants like Applebees, it's bullshit.