Fellow MTF trans people. Which restroom do you use and how well would you say you pass?
All my friends tell me I pass but I still get funny looks in the ladies restroom
Mark my words, this trans shit is just a fashion trend. Yeah right you were "born the wrong gender". You're a fucking fetishist who wanted a pair of tits and the attention that comes with being a woman.
Your anatomy is fine and your brain is hardcoded to be the gender you were born with. You just let your victim complex go too far and now you think you're some sort of special snowflake.
Trans sexuals have something called body dismorphia. Its not something natural or normal its a mental illness. You shouldn't bully people for having body dismorphia but you shouldn't encourage it like you wouldn't encourage anxiety or depression or any other mental illness.
Use the disabled and dont be such a cryhard faggot?
CISHET white male and I use my privilige to use the disabled toilets because it feels fucking great to have a huge toilet to myself, nobody cares. If anyone questions me I just start flailing and throwing spaghetti everywhere saying Im autistic. Works every time.
Don't listen to all these idiots that is butthurt over not everyone is the same and over reacting over something so stupid that i find these people so pathetic that it actually amuses me. I would go with womens bathroom. For all the whiners shut the fuck and and go bitch somewhere else like a cunt. Thank you :)
>People in this thread defending it
What's happened to /b/
>implying a baby has any concept of gender identity and really gives a fuck whether you use their biological sex or not
Fucking tumblrinas thinking everyone buys into their "causes".
if you look and dress like a dude, go into the dudes room
if you look and dress like a chick, go into the chicks room.
as long as you're going into use the bathroom in a stall, and then get out, you're going to be fine. if anyone asks their own questions look at them like their dumb, like you're actually cis, and that you just look feminine/butch or whatever.
>thinking people on /b/ hate trans people
half of em are trap lovers, we just dont like attention whore "everyone is out to get me, why is the world so transphobic, everyone should call me demidairyqueen genderkin yoo yaa yii pronouns" BS.
if ur actually go so far as to say that trans people in restrooms arent an issue at all, you don't belong in /b/ you belong on tumblr, cuz ur literally just as bad as they are.
the heart of /b/ is that we just dont care, and that we go out of our way to make fun of someone acting like a cunt, both in the far right or the far left.
except for how if you discourage body dysmorphia you only make it worse, whereas if you encourage people who have it to live as their gender of choice, they feel comfortable.
its like telling someone with autism that they need to start acting like normal people. they are simply incapable, adn trying to push them into a social situation is only going to make htem feel worse and worse about their condition.
considering the general thing that happens with this form of body dismorphia is the person lives their life as a different gender, and then otherwise just lives a normal life, why waste time making everyone unhappy attempting to find a cure or simply forcing them not to succumb to it?
thats what i love about all these comics, especially the ones about the trans little girl. all the punchlines are things they take seriously and think their making a great point about, but it just comes off as retarded.
I mean I have no problem calling a trans person by he or she if they want, but saying we can't call our babies by their genitalia specific pronouns?
and on that note, if gender =/= sex as is the the supposed case with babies, why do they fight for the right to use a bathroom based on their gender, but not their sex?
Because people literally mutilate themselves (as in chopping their dick in half). With autism theres no self harm involved therefor its not neccessary but when people are mutilating themselves it should not be encouraged.
is this the thread were we justify going in and trying to peep on girls and guys (whichever opposite sex - the one youre pretending to be even though you're really not) peeing while saying its alright cuz you feel like them?
You will always be a man. A confused and broken man.
Idk man. im okay with traps because you should be able to do what you want with your body. its not like im changing gender so. If you go into a bathroom and get strange looks just disregard them, go into a stall, take your piss / shit. and leave. Das it mane. just leave. they have no reason to question you because they don't know you. Show us a pic of you OP tho. i kinda wanna see how well you pass
is elective surgery really mutilation? there are tons of elective surgeries such as nose jobs, boobs jobs, removing scars, removing birth marks, implants in all sorts of places. obviously there are certain limits to whats a healthy change, but a planed practiced and precise surgery is not 'mutilation' by most peoples definition. I mean are you opposed to women having piercings or tattoos because thats body mutilation?
you aren't hurting yourself by having sex reassignment surgery. nice try though
>can't into periods
>can't have babies
>tons of makeup
>voice still fucked
Just be regular faggots instead of tumblr tier delusional faggots.
okay then so say you met a trans person in a school or work setting. they are MtF. they dont pass, but they clearly wear a dress, have small boobs, etc.
you calling them a he or a she? why?
and if applicable, which one are you calling them if you werent afraid to get in trouble? why?
not an option in life bud, good job pussying out of an imaginary scenario.
>only plebs actually make a choice
>instead of being too pussy to actually have a stance
and when they keep asking you call them "she" or "her"?
You don't get to choose. Read the facts I posted again.
Most people will tolerate people dressing as the opposite gender but expecting people to change their behavior by enabling some mental cases delusion and calling a male "her" isn't gonna happen.
That doesn't retract from the fact that gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we treat with permanent destructive surgeries <instead of, you know non-invasive hormone therapy and the like, to make special snow flakes happy with
who does this?
no one I know is like
"CALL ME HIM"
"I DO NOT LIKE BEING CALLED STEVE"
When do you ever say he or she when directly talking to the person you are referring to?
>two trannies committed suicide
>its because we are enabling them, not because we are refusing to accept them as what they are
do you see your insane retard logic? i mean fuck, are we not allowed to call our close friends brothers because they are just as close?
should all kids beforced to call a parent "step dad" and only if he marries in? I MEAN HES A KID IT'D BE DAMAGING FOR HIM TO CALL SOMEONE DAD, THAT MIGHT MAKE HIM THINK HES REALLY HIS DAD"
this is how dumb you sound.
>you have literally never overheard someone say
>anon likes dogs?
>yes, but he only likes small dogs, like some sort of faget lololol"
i mean maybe you are in that scenario cuz you dont talk to people off the internet, but in real life people here what pronouns they hear all the time.
I mean fuck im a dude but i get called "ma'am" on the phone all the time, so there is also that to consider.
>we love em
never said that, said half of /b/ are trap lovers, you can pretend thats not true, but thers like 4 trap threads right now so....
>they're just freaks god made
>for our entrainment
thats my favorite part of the bible. i think it was called edgy 2:4
You already have toilets designated for you
Trannies have a suicide rate like 14X
The average population.
They aren't bullied anymore than fat, ugly, or disabled people. These groups don't commit suicide in droves because they aren't mentally ill like trannies.
Pic related was the 20th Trans fag suicide this year.
this is such a fucking joke, who just beats people up in public restrooms? trans people need to just fuck off
If a transgirl came up beside me at the urinals and started pissing, I don't think I'd care. I've had full cis-vagina'd bitches come into the men's room before because they didn't want to wait in line. Assuming she didn't hover-piss all over the seats, I don't think men would really have an issue with it. Obvious transwomen or transmen would be shrieked at and called rapists and perverts for going into the women's washroom, however.
If any accommodation is made for queer genders, I'd say make Unisex and Women the standard two washrooms rather than Men and Women. It'll give them an excuse to build more urinal privacy dividers.
>trans people arent bullied more than others
on the contrary they really are, wheres your statistic for that one mate?
im not saying you have to love em, date em, put up with any of the obnoxious ones, or any of that drama, but jesus if you meet one, try not to become a hardcore christian and just call it whichever pronoun they are clearly going for.
and for the record, its just he vs. she, nothing else.
I feel like women would be more open to a trans person in the restroom, though it might depend on the area. i personally dont care. i mean in the womens room its all stalls so does it really matter whos going in there?
and if ur at a urinal you either have a penis or an exceptional talent, so who cares, as long as you're not one of those penis lookers.
>has no actual counter argument
>cant even cover up the fact that his initial response made no sense
>GEE WHAT A NEWFIG
>change my behavior to accommodate somebody else.
Trans fags already have "Tolerance". There are laws and shit about hate crimes and discrimination.
What you want is "acceptance". Society doesn't have to "accept" shit. We can say, do and think whatever the fuck we want.
Passable transmen would definitely have problems in women's washrooms. Even actual women who happen to not look feminine enough get shit on. There was a video going around recently with a series of short-haired overweight black women in androgynous dress talking about their bathroom troubles.
I'm a transguy, ftm and I am so freaked out about shit going down in public bathrooms. Let alone the workplace. I just started my hormone and when I start passing more with voice and shit I have no idea what I'm going to do.
You can't use a urinal like a guy. You're a butch chick. Also, You can never know the joy of:
>peeing your name in the snow.
>sticking you're dick in a pussy
You'll always be female no matter what you do. Remember that.
Well there are more than one way to skin a cat...
It took me nearly an entire year to get the courage to use the women's and I did so JUST LAST NIGHT without any hesitation or undue anxiety! I was so fucking proud of myself!
Thank you =)
Here's a face shot just because you made me smile!
This is a decent argument, but it doesn't change the fact that the suicide rate for trans people is unchanged between pre/post op.
You might argue that they only kill themselves because even after surgery society doesn't accept them, but I don't think that can account for all of it.
Being proud of yourself for this? Your parents never supported you about anything did they? You have no self worth, to the point that your proud you pissed in a different toilet. All you did was evacuate waste. Nothing to be proud of. You didn't write a book or give speech you took a piss, or a shit either way not monumentous
>Fucking hipster first world problems!
Here's an idea OP; go to Africa and find a village with an Ebola problem, or massive malaria mortality, or a huge AIDS epidemic, or raping and pillaging Islamic raiding parties etc... etc... and ask them if they care whether you stand up to pee in the hole in the mud, or squat over it!
>Fucking privileged developed world retards!
Is this the excuse you tell yourself for not trying hard enough to succeed and not having success handed to you?
>inAfter Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, various ugly actors/actresses, Vladimir Putin............ and the list of successful and/or powerful ugly people is near infinite
Dismorphia is the obsession of fixing a perceived flaw in one's own body. Shouldn't treatment of it be driven toward helping them realizing they don't have the flaws they perceive?
A. I fucking know.
I have next to zero self worth, it's a serious issue that I am working on but ANYTHING I can do that makes me feel more confident is a fucking good thing. I know it's kind of sad because using the bathroom is such a BASIC fucking thing, but it was hard for me.
That's like 3 or 4 people thats said I look like him....
>Be me, 19
>Go to Humber College
>Bar is in the school
>Plastered at 1 pm
>Walk out of the bar, down the hall, walk into the girls washroom
>Open a stall
>Kick up the seat
>Nobody have a flying fuck other than my friends laughing at me
>They aren't bullied anymore than fat, ugly, or disabled people
Are you fucking kidding me? Trans people get beaten to death for being trans regularly. Are you telling me people are beaten to death for being fat?
Fuck off to your containment board
You get funny looks because you have a mental illness and a special snowflake badge, bullshit equality laws brought in by progressive idiots are the only thing that protect you from true public opinion.
underrated and /thread
>our great grandparents endured two world wars so that our society could bitch and moan about the hardships and difficulties of which toilet to use as a self loathing faggot
No don't celebrate every gay little thing you do that's stupid. Children need that kind of reinforcement. As an adult go do something worth being proud of then be proud. I swear this world wants a pat on the back for everything even taking a piss. This over protective coddling shit is why you faggots kill yourselves. You have no idea how to deal with life problems and expect that a person or a law will protect you from the bad things. Pathetic. instead of making yourself feel better how about you live your life with no fucks given on what others think.
I'm honesty working towards that, but it's hard. I've a life time of self hatred to overcome.
And just so we're clear, I AM working on something legitimately worthwhile. I'm nearly 3/4 of the way through my first draft of a novel I've been working on for just over a year.
Yes you ignorant faggot. That is why I hate the trans/lgbt in America as well as blacklivesmatter. No one else is suffering more than you guys and the world needs to lick your balls cuz political correct. You literally think you have it toughest in the world when all you have is first world problems.
Correlation doesn't equal causation you middleschool educated faggot
People who are willing to do this shit to themselves are clearly more unstable than the rest of the population
No you have a need for others to acknowledge your struggle or that your life was hard. Let it go and realise no does or ever will care. Your alone in your head like everyone else.
I love that you claim to be MTF trans but haven't bothered with hormone treatment at all, your facial features are so sharp.
Get hormone treatment for a year and post on /b/ with your results, we will then say something like "oh no wonder you pass as a girl".
kill yourself you nasty fucking scum. if my wife was in a public restroom and i saw you walk in too, id come right in there and bash your ugly fucking face into the sink, and then ghetto stomp your fucking skull until you died and then spit on your fucking brain. fuck you
Nigga, Vladimir is fine as fuck.
Female Privilege #E104C:
I can go to the bathroom without fear of bumping into this, because society would fucking beat the shit out of them if they tried.
I had this same thought. If they're talking to me I can't imagine why they wouldn't say "you" or my name or whatever. If people want to talk about me when I'm not around I couldn't care less, they're gonna call me what they want anyways why should I ruffle my feathers about it.
How the fuck is Bill Gates, Steve Jobs or Vladimir Putin ugly? I don't think I can even come up with an ugly and successful person.
Lel this is not true at all. Your hormones and chromosomes exactly match your genitalia you were born with.
Because gendered toilets exist solely to create an isolated environment for women. Men's bathrooms might as well be "Anyone Who is Not a Fertile Female" bathrooms. "Family" restrooms operate on the same principle: keep the genetically relevant segregated from danger.
It's been the same thing throughout history. Harems, daycares, restrooms, it's all about keeping those who have genetic value (fertile women and heirs) isolated and safe.
In the moderate future, society will wake up and realize that genetic legacy doesn't count for shit. It's the kindof bullshit that monkeys and mayflies worry about. Then all these "gender constructs" will collapse, much to the dismay of the snowflake population.
How is this not fucking obvious?
An argument that trans people should use a changeroom or bathroom opposite their birth gender is really an argument for nudism "i.e. be more mature they are not going to start humping or perving on everyone" ....even gay people using facilities of their own gender...I just wish people would see the end point so men and women can shower together and boobs
lol good luck with that, fun fact trans folk who get surgery actually have a higher suicide rate than those who don't because they are very rarely satisfied with the results and now they can never go back
I use the women's restroom regularly and I'm a 6'2" 280 lb man with a beard. Not passable at all, which is cool because I've learned to be comfortable with my cis.
I don't do it to be pervy or rude but if he gents is full and I need to washy hands, then I'm using the lass's.
No one has ever said shit to me about it and if they did I would just tell them what was up. What would they do? Call the restroom police? It's not like I do it in multi stall, just the one seaters. That would be kind of fucky.
As far as the trans people, they should just use the shitter at home if they don't feel comfortable conforming. 99%+ of the population isn't going to change for your feelings. Get over it.
That joke deserves a nobel price.
Oh and op. If you have a dick (and yes the mutilated inside out dick you might have is still a dick) then you are a man and you should go into the male bathroom. The closest thing you will be to a girl is a guy with a mutilated penis