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>>646975170 There is nothing inherently wrong with it. The problem is the biggest douchebags and hipsters flock to it, which makes people hate it. Its not the vapes fault that faggots love it so much. Normal people vape too.
Dunno. I like nicotine once in a while. I hate cigarettes, but cigars, cigarillos and pipe tobacco are okay. I don't think it's worth the effort to smoke weed out of it. If I have to refine a bunch of shit to get a THC oil and then sneak it with me in a vape to get by day to day that's a good indicator that I am fucked in the head beyond repair. If you like tobacco, it's a good route, physically and mentally. If you have to use one for weed, maybe consider that you have an issue. Keep it simple.
>>646975170 im vaping right now... I like it, still miss smoking but its no big deal. people who smoke cigarettes think it smells bad (what?) and poeple that dont think it smells good. I vape in stores and shit and people always say NO SMOKING IN HERE DURP i reply well kind sir or madam its not smoke its vapor.. WELL NO TOBACCO, well see its not tobacco either, YOU CANT DO THAT HERE! its going to be illegal soon enough but for now i aint stopping
Ya when I vape I vape either outside, in my truck, or at my place (or my buddy's place also who vapes / smokes). People that vape in public and are like, well its not smokeing which means its ok are a bunch of ass hats.
And if you say the whole its not harmful, some people have coughing fits when there is anything in the air that is not....... well standard air.
BIG ASS FUGGIN CLOUDS GOT SOME DANK MUTHA FUCKIN LIVE PHYSICIS EXPERIMENTS LITERALLY ANYWHERE if there's one thing high level college has taught me, it's understanding the basic nature of why it does that and THEN THAT SHITS ALL MILKY FUCKING SWEET SWEET MILKY CAPTAIN TOAST CRUNCH GOOD SHIT NIGGUH
>>646980855 i felt like it would do it either way. could be drinking water at same time and still feel it. Felt gross, tasted okay. Pen started leaking shit, threw it away. The only people who should be using these should be heavily nicotine addicted and trying to ween themselves off. Everyone else is a big faggot
>>646981193 >>What do you get from it? A buzz or high feeling? Nicotine replacement. Keeps me from desiring a regular cigarette better than any NRT method I'd tried prior
>>Does it contain Nicotine and if so, whats the difference from second hand smoke and vapor? Most "juices" do contain nicotine but the strength can range from stronger than regular cigs to far weaker. Vapor tends to dissipate quicker than regular cig smoke, so I think second hand smoke is less of any issue. However, I treat it like I did cigs and don;t vape around people
Juice can also contain 0% nicotine, but that seems kinds pointless to me.
>>646983975 Not to sound like a nay-sayer (yes same person you cited), but can you show an incident of a person in public who was not in a perfume store / department of a public store that died from walking by a person wearing cologne. I imagine someone puffing a cloud into a crowded people tends to limit other people's control. Sorry if I am not wording this well, but tired.
Still vape outside / vape shops / house and overall just dont be a dick about it.
>>646978963 It's not pure water vapor. It's laden with the chemicals found in the liquid. Otherwise you wouldn't smell anything because water vapor has no scent. You are exhaling food coloring and heavy metal particulates among other things.
>>646985604 The heavy metal particals found in most studies were made claims by people who dont understand how to properly vape on a certain coils. That or juice that is not made in the US by reputable dealers. "good" juice has 4 ingredients, PG (propline glycole), VG (vegitable glycerine) (both of which have been used in inhalers since the 50's), nicotine, and flavoring
>>646986476 That doesn't change the fact that people do know the difference between water vapor and vapor that isn't water. They think that their lungs are somehow absorbing 100% of the chemicals and exhuming water vapor.
>>646987134 Im not saying its good to smoke indoors except as stated in certain stated areas earlier in this thread (home, vape shop, friends who vape's house, outdoors). I just wanted to point out the heavy metals thing is in err. I am very against vapeing in the general public.
>>646984521 dude... i dont like blow vape in peoples faces and say ITS NOT SMOKE BITCH or anything, I am the one being assaulted by autism not the other way around
>>646984839 http://www.webmd.com/allergies/features/fragrance-allergies-a-sensory-assault im too lazy to look for something better but when people with severe allergy to perfume catch a big wiff they can go into anaphlaxis(however its spelt) and possibly die
>>646988083 When I started I used the MVP iTaste 2, and in short succession got a mini nautilus tank. Great way at low airflow intake to simulate a cigarette pull. Get either a 12 or 18 mg juice to start (go to a vape shop and ask all the questions, but that worked for me)
>>646987034 Most people also dont know the pg is the main chemical used in inhalers and to disinfect hospital building throught the air ducts, or that vg is just a chemical derived from vegetables mostly used in fog machines, both of which known to not cause any serious harm. The only real harmful chemical is the nicotine. Its the whole reason I chose this to quit.
I still wont vaoe unless its outdoors or in my own home/vape shop. Its called not being a dick.
>>646988716 How much do you currently smoke? 1/2 a pack or more then get a juice that is 18, otherwise 12. Adjust as needed. Still the iTaste mvp is one of the best "starter" mods. It comes with a tank, but I just liked haveing more control over the airflow, so again the natilus mini is a great tank to go with the iTaste MVP
>>646988083 really depends on what you're going for. i wanted to lose weight by just vaping instead of snacking all the time, so i went with the ijust 2 by eleaf. gives off great flavor and huge clouds are no complaint. but its not going to emulate an analog.
>>646984839 in my original post i was trying to convey that people think its cigarette smoke and i guess i should have worded it better but i do stop when people ask me to but im going to continue vaping everywhere unless im expressly told not to, and im not blowing vape in peoples faces or anything, i usually take tiny hits and blow it in the air, half the time there is no visible vape
>>646989863 Well considering you can puff on any given mod as much or as little as you / your body wants. Start with an 18 mg juice, if you feel too much nicotine in your body, go to 12. Dont go much higher then 18 tho. Ive already said what mod / tank i started with, so I wont repeat, but go online, there are all kinds of vapeing communities that would love to help you get started.
>>646992106 Any time. Only warning, it can become a hobby. I tend to err on the side of I am not smokeing cigs any more, but I have a friend who got into it about a month after I did and in about 2 months went from the aforementioned set up, upgraded 2 times and dropped like 450 into it.
>>646993212 All I know is his mod had a newish chip, temp control, 150........ or was it 200 watts....... either way, WAY more then is needed. Then got another mod that was not as powerful but for his "out of his house set up" and bought like 6 tanks so he can change flavors on the fly........ total hobbiest. Oh and like 4 or 5 different kinds of coils to experiment with, as well as like, a bucket load of flavors (which im not counting in that cost)
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