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RIP Labor Force Participation Rate

Less than 2/3rds of able bodied Americans are working

WTF Economists
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>>1550377
>Less than 2/3rds of able bodied Americans are working

Easier for niggers to collect a welfare check than to actually work at McDonadls for a living.

Its funny cuz niggers think that handouts & welfare is more "dignified" than entry level work.
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>>1550412

What welfare are you always talking about?
Unemployed get little but (degrading) foodstamps and resent in the USA. If you think being unemployed is fun, you are free to become so anytime.
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min wage sucks

I'd rather be homeless and studying somewhere warm

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how do i stocks?
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>>1550308
Droogle it
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youtube it
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>>1550308
BUY COSI
I'm betting all my savings on COSI

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What your prediction on MGT? Are they dead in the water, or will they rise again?

McAfee is planning to be the largest bitcoin miner in the US within the next few years.
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it's kill


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>>1550275
>planning
SHORT. Shits going to 0
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My prediction is recovery to $4 before january because I have too much in it to be willing to let it go

t. bagholder in at 2.75

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>"AUPH is going to go to $7", they said
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it is moron.
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>>1550251

HAHA RETARD
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>>1550251
I lost half of my money (2k out of 4k) going long on gold. I bought near the top. Should I just kill myself. stop trading? or try to recover using 3x leveraged etfs/penny stocks

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How to mine bitcoin on an iphone 7?
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Step 1:
Step 2: Do step 1
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>>1550246
imposibruuuuuuuuuu
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>>1550246
and that is a stupid ass question op

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Should I spend my $1000 of NEETbux to pay for a advert, to keep 4chan in business? Want to help this website considering how much time I'm on it, and think it would be quite funny as well. This is the ad I was thinking of using.
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Do it
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>>1550248

All boards or just biz/r9k? I want to dispel the common myth NEETs are barely able to survive.
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>>1550258
All, spend as much money as you can

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So, I cant find any decent work...

Im 27, and I work as a bookkeeper for $20 an hour. I have worked in IT, and I never graduated 4 year college only 2 year.

I am planning on moving out of the Bay Area and into a cheaper place like Seattle, Portland or Tennessee, Dakotas..

I want to go back to 4 year school, and do the minimum to sit for CPA exam, while I buy cheap duplexes/single family houses, and rent them out.

I have a DUI so I will never be employable at a decent company until I get CPA credential.

Should I just consider saying fuck the...
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>>1550161
>DUI
congratz OP you fucked yourself

Couldn't get it removed?
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DUI's are misdemeanors... They last 10 years on your record.
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>>1550170
could as much be as a death sentence though, it's the equivalent of the letter A scarlet or w/e

The rent out houses meme is reminescent of 2006. Holy shit that was 10 years ago.

For MC franchise you need to work as a manager for 6 months iirc.

Sounds like you have no clue what you want to do with your life.

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>going to my wagie job
>work part time for 6 hours 3 days a week but my week consists of days ruined by work or days dreading the upcoming work days
>do a job that some silicon valley 19 year old should've automated by now (they're too busy with the college fuckfest)
>am a retailcuck
>did a stem degree and I'm smart but lazy
>see lots of Staceys and Chads
>sometimes...
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If you don't work full time you're not a "wagie"
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>>1549963
That's why I'm a NEET trying to make money online

Do you have a question or you just telling your story?
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>>1549976

I have no questions. I think the pump and dump of bitcoins on this board is going to be the pinnacle of biz. Everything else is dumb investment nonsense. I mean like when you accidentally find youself on that weird bit of youtube offering forex trading tips and penny stock nonsense. That sums up a lot of biz, though I do like you guys, except that guy who spams "try r9k".

>2-cent stock halfed in value
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>>1549808
It can only go upwards after that, bro.
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>>1551310
What if it goes to 0.5 cents?
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>>1551318
What if they go bankrupt and it goes to zero?

Don't often see pensions discussed on here and I could really use advice.

I'm quite lucky to have a final salary(well, career average) type pension that also grows with inflation. I've estimated that if I retire early at 55 and take the huge 40% pension penalty that comes with that, I'd have an income of around £15,000 per year until I die. That's assuming no promotions, so it would probably be a bit more. 15 grand doesn't seem like enough so I'd like another source of income, perhaps another private pension or investment or something.

What...
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I've got most of my money in real estate. That's the classic model for mailbox money, but only if you do it correctly.

Look on biggerpockets.com for details.
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Anyone else feel like sharing how they plan to finance their retirement?
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>>1549794
I would cash out your pension as soon as humanly possibly.

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>pumps once
>constant decline ever since
>now oasis exit scam happens

How can bagholders STILL be in so much denial about xmr?

I mean, they could have been making lots of money shorting it for the entire last month. Yet everyone keeps on holding their ever less valuable bags, constantly deluding themselves that 'it has hit a bottom' and 'is gonna do a reversal now'. Even after one of the two markets responsible for the initial pump fucking exit scams.

I...
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>>1549734
All coins here are only good for PnD did you all just figure this out?
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>>1549734

You are looking for smart people here. You should just open a margin short and look for idiots then shill the shit out of the "reversal" and post your gains when it hits .007

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Buy? Sell? What do?
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buy dips, sell later
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>>1549706
but is it the good time to buy or is it gonna keep falling and I should hold on for few days?
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>>1549713

it's gonna fall for the next 3 years, broski.

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/biz/ I'm a first year student at UB double majoring in aerospace and mechanical engineering. I'm failing calculus 1 hard, with about a 50 average.

Would it be smart to switch to accounting and computer science? I don't really have in interest in engineering other than the salary and the title.
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>I don't really have in interest in engineering other than the salary and the title.
That's why you failed.
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>>1549724
You're right, only took this because I was in advanced math and science classes in high school, and my teachers and parents told me to go this route
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>>1549699
Work harder, or go to a liberal arts major. Comp Sci isn't looking for retards either.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT FIRE ALL THE MEN???!???!

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/06/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-led-illegal-purge-of-male-employees-lawsuit-charges/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1475791811
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>>1549663
would explain why yahoo is a faling business
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>>1549665
BUT WOMEN ARE CHEAPER EMPLOYEES AND DO A BETTER JOB. Muh wage gab
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>>1549667
Even a feminist business owner knows women are the worst employees.
https://clarissasblog.com/2014/05/14/i-dont-want-to-hire-women/

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WHY DO MOST COMPANIES BORROW MONEY TO BUY-BACK STOCKS ???

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>1549662
You mean repos? Easy

Get loan of X 1.1
Buy X shares with repo at 1.1
Market rises at 1.5 sell back X
Return loan X 1.1 plus 0.1 interest
X 0.3 profit
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It makes sense for them to buy their own stocks because they can directly affect the price. Pretty safe investment for the lending bank.
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>borrowing money to purchase stake in a business

yeah why on earth would people ever do that?

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My bookie is taking bets on who will sit on the Iron Throne at the end of season 7. Anybody got any spoilers?
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>>1549628

john snow
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Harry Potter
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Tywin Lannister

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>he works more than 20 hours per week
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Aka every job?
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>>1549620
Yeah, pleb jobs
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>>1549619
I spend around 15-30 min a week on my investments/rental etc and im up 35k euros this year. I do spend more than 20 hours a week studying tho :^)

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IF WHEN MARKETS OPEN MY MARIJUANA STOCKS DON'T RECOVER AND THEN SOME ... I SWEAR TO GOD
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those moneys were better invested in POT coin
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How can an american buy canadian mj stocks?
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>>1549599

nice trade plan

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hi /biz/,

i don't usually browse this board but i'm rather fucked right now and feeling very tired of it. i, as well as my peers, consider myself to be pretty intelligent and a quick learner. always been very into cultivating my interests and becoming fully immersed in them and i feel confident enough to get into something that'll better my life that i'm doing research to make it happen. 21 years old, no savings, no income, no credit, no debt, not employed and the idea of retail, not doing actually thinking and challenging myself, is just mindnumbingly...
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>>1549587
Do freelance software dev
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>>1549590
not enough fun to keep me interested desu. i've developed such a hard head that i won't even get into something if i know i'll get bored of it and there's no risk, no thrill, no reason for me to stay sharp doing that. not trying to be a retard but i just am tired of settling on shit that doesn't excite me. thx for the input though, for real. it all helps.
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1. You're probably not nearly as smart as you think you are. This is an extremely common misconception, and the biggest source of your problems.

2. Because you have a ridiculously inflated sense of self-worth, you exclude the jobs and careers that would actually be a good match for your talents and intelligence. You consider yourself too good for these jobs, but you're not.

3. So you really have two choices: You can continue to delude yourself that a life of adventure, risk, riches and fame is just around the corner, and only hasn't happened yet...
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Thanks for the great tip.
Fucking niggers.
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why didnt you sell while it was good?

You know everything we play with is a PnD rite?
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>>1549579
bought 3 days ago.

Hoping that legalisation in spring will put it back on track
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>>1549581
Iktfb

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Does anyone else here not regret their Brexit vote despite losing money?

The intense pleasure of BTFO literally every liberal here, and almost every yuropoor on 4chan is far greater than seeing green numbers on a screen
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>>1549568
Same here
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>>1549568

IDGAF, I just keep buying your commodities for less and less, skipping VAT because incorporated, skipping import tax because "still EU", and selling the product for the same price as before.

My profit margins just keep increasing as you're tumbling down into a bona fide recession which every UK politician keeps saying "won't happen" because "UK STRONK"

I don't regret your decision at all.
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>>1549568
>losing money

Been shorting the shit out of GBP/USD since yesterday, went all in and closed before it started recovering today

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Is anything going on here financially speaking that is worth taking advantage of besides the collapse of Hanjin?
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Buy potcoin
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hmm, don't know

bet on hillary

buy hurricane goods (risky if you don't know what you are doing)

possible brexit bounce (risky)

watch pepsico lawsuit
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Samsung, LG and other electronic giants
K-pop
Winter Olympics in 2018
Kia, Hyundai and other motor manufacturers.

Gotta be worth a bit of upside here.

However, bear in mind that our referring to these companies and funds does not constitute advice or a personal recommendation to invest in these or any other investment.

Investments can fall as well as rise and you may get back less than you invested. Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. If you’re unsure, seek independent advice.

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Hey guys I need help
I need to write a paper on a TV show/Movie with 5 economic terms
any suggestions?
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>>1549538

Margin Call
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>>1549538
Inside Job / Big short
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>>1549538
Million Dollar Traders, a three part series on youtube.

A good quote might be "Do I have to put a gun to your head and say 'fucking manage risk'?"

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What will the next financial crisis look like /biz/?
-Collapse of the dollar
-Derivative bubble bursting
etc.
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>>1549455
There will never be another financial crisis like 2008 or the dotcom bubble. Financial crises stem from an irrational response to market conditions which precipitates a positive feedback loop. Machines have taken over the majority of trading volume since 2009. They don't respond irrationally: when the price is cheap they buy, when the price is expensive they sell. It doesn't matter what the security's long-term uncertainty is because they only need the price to remain close to constant for the next 30...
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>>1549474
How drastic has been the shift to computers in trading? I haven't heard much about this.
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The euro is gonna collapse first, or the yen.

I hurt myself today......

to see if i still feel.... i focus on the pain.... the only thing that's real...
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>>1549420
>unrealized
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>>1549420
r9k
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>>1549430
is there anything that doesn't belong on /r9k/

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But let me guess... You don't know what in?
Well give up already, you've failed at the most important and easiest step.

You forgot the most important part of business: it is about solving a customer's problem, satisfying a need or want. Sometimes people don't even know they want it yet.

In the early 90's Oil of Olay was selling anti-aging creams to middle-aged women but realized they could grow if they started selling anti-aging creams to women in their thirties as a preventative measure.

They create a market that didn't...
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>>1549405
thx m8 that's all the motivation i needed
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>>1549405
kek

I enjoyed reading your asinine advice, OP.

in real life almost all successful businesses aren't new ideas for unexploited markets.

they're the 53rd carpet cleaning company in town that just managed to buy bigger ads and is hungry enough to charge slightly less and do slightly more.

Or landscaping company. Or plumber. Or electrician. Or janitor. Or farmer. Or window washer. Or welder. Or mechanic. Or whatever the fuck everyone else is already doing and making millions at.
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>>1549410
>>1549408
>>1549405
to add to that, i just recently started to work as a software engineer at a small firm. we are only about 10 people here. The owner is barely in the office, but he owns two porsche, an audi sq7, a yacht and a fucking big house.
he started right after finishing university and worked hard for 10 years and now he's relaxing.
we're doing pretty basic programming stuff, e.g. web dev...
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Hi people. I want to purchase bitcoins and want any good trading sites. I live in Norway, Europe. I checked out Kraken and the price was around 500 euros for 0.023344 and so on. This number means one bitcoin? Or 1 euro equal to value in bc? Thanks for any help :)
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>>1549403
it means 500 euros for 0.023344 bitcoin.

If you like, I'll sell you 4 bitcoin for 70,000 euros. pretty good deal considering its around ~100k euro for 1 btc. We can use escorow to resolve any trust issues.
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if you are THAT new to trading you should read up some facts first before you even consider starting it... the price of 550€ is for 1 BTC and if someone buys 0.02345 BTC he pays (550*0.02345)€
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>>1549431

OP is just being selfish and greedy if he insists on escrow on this offer/deal.

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Does this not piss anyone else off? I don't even specify my race when applying online anymore. It really fucks with my brain that these companies somehow think that having more Blacks or Women will make their bottom line better. If anything it would weaken it based on just hiring on Pussy or Melanin.

Also what the fuck am I supposed to say for Race and Gender on these apps? I always say Male, but don't specify Race.
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>>1549311
microdicked whiteboi detected
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>>1549319
Can you please speak English?
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>>1549311
We're required by law to put that in our ads.

we aren't required by law to hire women or black people or any other group if the applicant isn't the most qualified applicant.

tl;dr: you're an idiot and this isn't the idiots' board.

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Just a reminder that if you're not ENTJ-A you'll never make it. If you're afraid of confrontation, socializing, networking, standing out, and being assertive you should stick to looking for wageslave positions on indeed and monster.
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this is true.. INTP NEET here.. I cant stand being around people.. so instead of trying to be what im not, i let my money do all the work for me
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>>1549230
ENTP here. No idea if it helps me here
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>>1549230
0/10 bait

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>tfw started 5 failed business
>tfw one of them was actually on track to success but someone capitalized on my idea with more resources and took it out from under me
About how many tries does it normally take to succeed? I'm pretty sick of failing even though I do a lot of hard work.
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>>1549089
Just try to be poor, anon.
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>one of them was actually on track to success but someone capitalized on my idea with more resources and took it out from under me
In my country this would be solve contracting a hitman. Politicians to it all the time here.
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>>1549089
>how many tries does it normally take to succeed?
It takes as many as it takes.
Its different for everyone, but you just need to keep at it until you find your niche.


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