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Hey /biz/ I grew up with two very loving parents, but money was something that we didn't really have a lot of. I want to raise my kids with them not having to worry about if they will get a present this year or if I can afford to pay for a after school program that they wish to attend, but I'm not exactly sure how I would go about doing this I've looked at stock trading and real estate but I'm still not sure. I would greatly appreciate any feedback

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>>1509201
>>>/adv/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARrNYyJEnFI
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If you feel like you've grown up respectably, perhaps you should attribute a portion of your raising to the lack of luxury. Don't barter your children's affection with money as a substitute for happiness. Sure you don't want to be living in a box, but paying for everything in their post-graduate years out of pocket isn't always a good decision. Sweating a bit in the financial sector teaches the values of risk and discipline. If you want your kids to grow up to be respectable human beings, let em sweat a bit. You also don't have to be a salesman to have a comfortable life, or give your kids tons of shit. Just do what you do best for a profit.
What skills do you already have?
Do you see any of them as marketable?
How much time/money do you have invested in education?
How much debt are you sitting under?
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>>1509208
I'm decent with numbers
I don't owe anything I just turned 19 haven't went to college

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>tfw got rich
>tfw i gave up my dreams to become rich and had i known how little money actually matters i would have stayed a struggling artist
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>>1509156

Greentext pls
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>Tfw became rich and started frogposting on 4chan when I realized money doesnt matter
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>>1509570

The real version right here

I'm 32, how am I doing? I got started late. I'm a renter.
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>>1509155
Is that your total net worth? You might wan't to try to up your game if it is.
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>>1509200
yes
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>>1509203
Just keep investing and use the power of compounding returns to your advantage.

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Curious, how does /biz/ store their bitcoins?
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>>1509150
cex.io is what I use. They have a .2% taker rate and 0% maker rate
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Circle

But I don't use bitcoin much. Circle is very convenient tho
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>>1509153
Are these good rates /biz/? Or am I getting ripped off?

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>find online gambling sites that give you free cash incentives
>Bet for and against your own odds
>Guaranteed profit off various sites

Pass this along to fellow neets
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I never made profit off gambling. Closest to gambling that i make money is crypto
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Try r9k
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>>1509143
Here's your chance to make free money then,nothing to lose here famalam

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>be me
>use google express
>receive code to refer friends
>code gives friend 15 bucks to buy something
>get a $15 credit to buy things when someone that used my code orders
>referral is maxed at 9999 uses, but google sends new promotions all the time
>spam referral code on large facebook groups because its just a free $15 coupon
>literally...
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Wtf how do
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>>1509141
So basically what i did was i had a google express account for about a month as i got some shit in the mail for this seasonal offer to refer people and i just went balls out on it and apparently they just send em out monthly to all the people with memberships and yeah you essentialy give someone a 15 dollar coupon when they use it you get a 15 dollar coupon but like you can do this up to 9999 times per code LOL and who wouldnt mind being given a 15 dollar code? Shit folks were beggin for em
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>>1509147
How do I give it out though

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What books on psychology should I read to become a supreme business sociopath
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>>1509111
You can't teach that. It's either genetic or you just become not retarded and learn how to maximize profits.
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>>1509111

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/

Never outshine the Master. Ever.
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Any textbook on consumer behavior

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How can I make profit from $25?
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>>1509070
try r9k
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>>1509071
Why would I go to r9k? I'm not a total loser who shitposts in "tfw no gf" threads
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>>1509070
Use it to put gas in your car to drive to work.

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What's the harm in buying one lottery ticket a day?

>Play lottery
>Chance of becoming a multi-millionaire is greater than 0

>Don't play lottery
>Chance of becoming a multi-millionaire is 0.

(Statistically the last statement isn't true for all people, but for most people it is - not everyone has a rich uncle and are in a occupation with capped earning potential thus making their chances 0. )


Proveme wrong
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>>1509055
Let's see.

Assume you spend (inflation adjusted), $1 on the lottery per day.

That's $365 a year, (inflation adjusted). Assume 7% returns after inflation.

If you do the following from 18 years old until retirement, 67 years old let's say. You'd have the equivalent of $138,000.00.

So a low chance of becoming a millionaire vs. a guaranteed $140K (inflation adjusted) as an oldfag. Which is $600,000 (nominal) assuming 3% inflation.
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>>1509055
try r9k
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>>1509065

Still not a millionaire though

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Is Elon Musk the most intelligent/skillful CEO on the planet?

>Photographic memory
>Expert engineering and business knowledge
>Pursues business ventures that have less than 10% of succeeding
>CEO of two companies at the same time
>Has completely shaken up two hard engineering industries (aerospace and cars)
>Literally wants to go to Mars

How do we emulate him?
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>>1509029
Learn everything you can about engineering and space. If you truly want to emulate him, then you're going to need to spend about 16 hour days reading and comprehending and absorbing knowledge that pertain to his fields of study. If you aren't going to give it that kind of dedication, then you aren't going to see results.
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>>1509029

>business only around because of Democrats' fetish for alt. energy
>can barely send a rocket in space, much less a Mars mission
>fuels his cars on coal, more polluting than oil, and still virtue signals
>not even profitable

to say Tesla is the next Enron would be an insult to Enron
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>>1509044
>can barely send a rocket in space
>barely

wow you are clueless

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What business or actions or services can I make money on that collectively cost less than 500 to start? Getting sick of these grueling warehouse jobs and I need a way to garner a small pool of capital before I can start on the countless ventures I have in mind but have high startup costs.
>inb4 KNPD and other unfunny trash
Please no
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>>1509005
buy $500 kneepads, then suck 1 trillion dicks for $1 a piece. You'll be the richest person on earth.
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>>1509649
There are only 3.5 billion dicks in the world. Do you intend op to suck you off an average of 300 times? Also keep in mind about 30% of those dicks can't even afford the bj.
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>>1509889
Welcome to Earth.

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Hello /biz/.. Counting on my years of market experience, I have created a way of not losing money 100% guaranteed. The secret to not losing money is not having any.
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>> what are credit cards
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That's not true. You're losing time which is a valuable asset to have.
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>>1509014

Learn how to gather, store and sell time and you have veritable gold mine.

So what does /biz/ think of leveraged index funds. I think the market is going to crash in December but until then I'm thinking of getting a 3x leveraged s and p 500.
They look like they print money
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>>1508946
Leveraged ETFs are for daytrading.
If you hold them for months you will get cucked.
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>>1508964
They have non day ones. This seems like a good plan. That's a 6 year chart.
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>>1508983
>This Ultra ProShares ETF seeks a return that is 3x the return of an index or other benchmark (target) for a single day, as measured from one NAV calculation to the next. Due to the compounding of daily returns, ProShares' returns over periods other than one day will likely differ in amount and possibly direction from the target return for the same period. These effects may be more pronounced in funds with larger or inverse multiples and in funds with volatile benchmarks. Investors should...
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reminder if you don't live here you'll never make it
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Yeah every billionaire and millionaire in the world lives in NYC. Don't believe the Census people!
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>>1508905
>niggers in harlem
>"making it"
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>>1508919
hasn't been black for a decade. it's all old people now

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On September 29th 1929, the S&P 500 was at its record high 31.86 and didn't reach that same point again for 25 years.
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Buy and hold doesn't mean you don't buy once. You would be making periodic contributions to your position further averaging it down. Your returns from positions from the 30s onward would far outweigh any positions you bought in those few years prior. Get some common sense Calvin.
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index funds aren't a way to get rich. they are just a safe place to store your money and get a little back
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>>1508901
if the equivalent happened today the S&P 500 would be the same value as it was in 1991

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What did he mean by this?
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>>1508857

He also said Novovax is promising and Mast is shit. He was wrong on the first
one ... let's see if he's right on the second
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>from my penthouse suite in downtown Manhattan

Yeah this is one hard mother fucker.
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He was that ADHD white kid that tried to make everybody laugh but didn't know people were laughing at him and not with him as a kid. He had a whole bad boy act to fit in with the niggers. He actually went to good schools and the whole my parents were poor janitors meme is bullshit because janitors in NYC make good money. He's a class act douche bag with a /b/ sense of humor. How he got his wealth was nothing legal and it's catching up to him.

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I'm meeting The Donald just mere hours from now.

As an aspiring /biz/nessman, what should I ask him?

Will take pictures and update with results.
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>>1508851
Put on a jacket or whatever the fuck you're wearing. I'm not saying you should iron your pants and wear your Sunday best or anything, just don't look like a bum or a tryhard.
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ask for a small loan of $1 million to get started
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Yell Pepe of course

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My university has an "Idea Competition", top prize gets $750.

Wat should i submit
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>>1508790

a pregnancy test-like device capable of detecting vaginal infections
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An alarm clock app that costs $0.99 to snooze. It also doesn't turn off until you have walked 100 yards.
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>>1508790
>submitting your idea to the jew-niversity
>giving up complete ownership to the patent for $750

Good goyim

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I am a student taking a course in starting a small business.

I have a case study that I want to discuss.
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>>1508777
Reposting better pic
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>>1508779
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>>1508784

Still not rich.
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>>1508764
try r9k
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I don't need to be rich to be happy.

25 years old.
Monthly NET Income = $2,800-$3,500
Monthly Expenses = $2,210-$2,335

I own a house and the mortgage payments are cheap. It only cost me $134K. It's a fixer upper, but I've been working on it. My expenses including putting away $50 a week for retirement. I put it in a Vanguard mutual fund and should have around $500K when I retire. Which will be plenty. My house will be paid off way before then, and I have no retirement goals. Maybe a new boat. I love to fish. That and fixing up my house is...
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>>1509452
>I don't need to be rich to be happy.

And with that attitude you never will be.

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Ask somebody who makes ~$200-500 a week running a phony tech repair business doing really nothing?
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>>1508743
I'm Ron Burgundy?
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>>1508746

Hi Ron. Thanks for posting.
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elaborate on the phoney part

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Whats the cheapest way to get cell service in the US?
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>>1508706
Obamaphone.
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>>1508706

Depends if you want data and text messaging or not. There are prepaid $3 monthly plans with t-mobile 30 mins talk time/10c every minute after that.

Most prepaid plans with data and unlimited talk/text usually start at $40 monthly

For the actual phone, spend like $100-$200 and get an unlocked BLU or Huawei
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i pay 35 for unlimited

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I have plenty of free time and am willing to learn something that would allow me to make money from home. I'm interested in web development and copywriting. Any other suggestions?
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>>1508656
Sucking dick
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>>1508715

OP actually asked a good question for once, please fuck off with your memes.
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>>1508656
Learn marketing and seo

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Alright /biz/, how much physical cash do you have accessible to you right now?

I currently have $0 in cash, all of my money is in the bank. Should I be hoarding cash in case of a Greece-type scenario where withdrawals are limited and it's not guaranteed that you will ever see your money ever again?
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get a safe and withdraw it all yeah

also start a few credit cards, max them out on balance transfer and put that in your safe too
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I have $15
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>>1508620

This.

/Thread

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are index stock funds risk free? can i trust them to be profitable in a bad market?
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>>1508576

Who is girl
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>If the market is down, will a fund that is designed to follow the market be up?
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>>1508577
https://www.instagram.com/nicole_zimmermann/?hl=en

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Let's see how you guys are set up for your trading and learning.

I'm using an iPad Pro 9.7

Apps:

> Portfolio Trader
> Stock Twits
> Calculator Infinity
> XE Currency
> Play News
> Pocket
> Good Notes

I spent about $20 on all of this.

How about you?
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None of you have a setup? Wtf?
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>>1508565
>Iphone
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>apple product
>trading stocks in the first place

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Soy is a good investment.
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>>1508545
Depends.
West Coast USA is full of liberals who are vegan and shit and you can imitate any food with soy.
East Coast / Midwest where everybody likes their testosterone untampered with, corn is the way to go.

And competition shifts constantly during harvests
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>>1508560
What does testosterone have to do with corn or soy?
You're just a brainwashed cuck, even though you're onto something interesting.
Soy will always be a viable commodity.
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>>1508688
Soy boosts estrogen.

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Can you really make 23% annual compounded interest by lending BTC on poloniex?
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Also, does poloniex have a canary statement anywhere?
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>>1508523
lending on exchanges comes with the risk of losing 100% of your crypto when the exchange gets hacked
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>>1508523

no one knows. there hasnt been a 2 year period where someone has earned at least 23% and been able to relend that for at least another 23%

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I'm looking for someone who has around the same knowledge as myself (I think someone with less knowledge or much more would create an unequal relationship which could be problematic, but this isn't a hard rule).

This is my skillset and I'm looking for something vaguely similar in another person:

>PHP, MYSQL, Python ,Linux administration, bash, Javascript, NodeJS, MVC stuff

>webscraping / web automation (both with headless browsers and HTTP libraries)

>ideally...
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hi dude i can do linux administration and scripting, java php and mysql. not a neet tho.
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paj

eet

plss
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>>1508442
How many projects can you get through these freelancer websites? What is the average budget for them?

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hey /biz/, this is basically an advice thread

My father owns a business that seems to be pretty lucarative and I'm sure he's willing to pass it on to me so long as I show interest in it. The problem is that his work requires a lot of effort and while I wouldn't actually mind doing it, I wouldn't enjoy it all that much either, especially considering I want to do other things with my life which actually might land me a job I would really enjoy.

I don't want to see the business end as it is a family operation and my father has put in tons...
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just take over, then hire a manager.
you can pay him in blowjobs.
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>>1508420
Do both. Think outside the box to lighten the load of your father's business. Not knowing the type of business, I can't say much more.
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>>1508432
We make dog and cat collars (out of high quality leather) and leather accessories, starting to branch out into leather goods for huamns now too.


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