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>not renting until you can buy a place with cash

don't be stupid now...
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>Not renting forever
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>>1503619
fpbp
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>>1503618
How is this in any way better than buying with a mortgage?
Money you spend on rent is gone forever.

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How do you get over the massive depression which is taking a bank loan?
Going to buy my first flat in a few weeks but even with some good savings I still need to take a loan and become the jew's bitch for at least 10 years.

How to deal?
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>taking a bank loan
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>>1503701
fpbp
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>>1503613
>▶fpbp

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Bill Gates is the perfect example of being very smart and working very hard.

You are all below average in both aspects.
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Thanks for sharing.
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>>1503611
He is also just another dumb immoral billionaire lacking in imagination and real talent in order to make the world a better place.
Why did he bother buying Minecraft? Only to not fire those idiot swedish guys pretending to know programming? Why didn't he create his own Minecraft? Because he's a loser.
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>>1503611
his business is built almost entirely on practices that are at best unethical and quite probably illegal.

he is undoubtedly intelligent and hard-working. But you need to realize there's a limit to how intelligent one man can be, just like there's a limit to how much work one person can do in 24 hours. His intelligence and capacity to work are not that much higher than anyone else's. There's only so much one body can do.

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I was thinking about having a domino's pizza restaurant franchise in Belgium, what am concerned about is it worth giving 40000 EUR to invest?? Please advise me, and tell me about pros cons of it, thanks.
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>>1503608
pretty dumb desu

if you wanna make pizza don't pay some retard company to make pizza and be beholden to their guidelines
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>>1503608
dont' do franchise you're just buying a job
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>>1503608
Waste of time.
7% royalty,
7% of food cost is inflated - kick back - can only buy those inflated ingredients, keeping your food costs at the higher end of 20%.
I think there is a 3% advertising / war chest from memory

Your labour is 30% if you appoint a manager and don't work in it yourself.

Who knows what your overheads will be.

Revenue is erroded because of 'competitive marketing'

Your profit margins will be very, very low.

Was a Dominos AU manager for 5...
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I can't take it anymore. If I can't make butt loads of money soon then I will kill myself. There is no point in living in a world you cannot control. This is my life and I have a right to do what I want with it, this means git gud or die.
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>>1503581
You don't want it bad enough.

You say you do, everyone says shit but what do you do when it comes down to it? How do you spend your time each day?
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>>1503583
you need to say that to every single citizen of this planet , but then who is going to pick your trash and grow your food ?
And you not going get rich doing that but only getting more poor spirit .
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>>1503581
Life insurance
2 years
suicide
u got money now famb

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Reminder
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>>1503569
thank
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TIME VALUE OF MONEY!!!
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>>1503569
so having two bushes is negative

x=2x+y
y= -x
why would u want the bush at all.

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>Be me
>Show Gen Xers my Polo account
>$10k, about a quarter of my savings
>Make about $1k a month average from it for fun
>Every. Single. Time. They scream at me telling me it's a gambling scam
>Go through a whole diatribe on day traders who make no money
>hear this a thousand times even 10 years ago
>Tell me to go back to school and learn a real trade
>Already run a profitable business at home
>$30k annually for only a few hours a day is failing to them, yet 90% of kids my age make less than that


Why are you Gen Xers still buthurt over 2000 and 2008? I get it, OK, you got suckered in and lost big fat money because your AOL and Yahoo stocks got rekt. Blockchain technology is the future. Our economy will run on them in due time. The industry is less than $25 billion. It's fucking tiny and still in its infancy and we get to be a part of it. Meanwhile the Credit Card industry is $1 trillion++. Banking and Derivatives many times more. This is the future. Yes most of these shitcoins are retarded pump and dumps so there's that, but the risk is small (never lost over 30%), the gains and potential are just too high to skip out on.
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>>1503519
Are you making a case for crypto? Because everyone on this board loves crypto and owns some. Even the people talking about how bad it is own some bitcoin.
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>>1503519
>Blockchain technology is the future. Our economy will run on them in due time.

lmao why are shitcoiners so ignorant
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>>1503548
No, I'm making the case against Gen Xers. They're stuck between the prosperous boomers and the peasant status millennials.

>>1503552
Dear nocoiner, it's 2016

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I just got a 300k check. There are 5 condos in my area that are ~~300k each. Would it be retarded to put 20% down on 5 of them and rent them out? I have savings so this money isn't that important to me
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It would be far easier to just dump 50k into a stock like NAVB or any other meme stock then sell for small profit within a week. Average down with another 50k if it continues to dip.

Buy 50k stocks for $1
Stock goes up 5 cents
Sell at $1.05
Profit .05 * 50k = $2,500

Can do it in the nude wearing nothing but a pair of shades, while eating cheetos off the belly of a cute wasted 17yr old money hungry slut.
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>>1503537
>Buy 50k stocks for $1
>buying a stock which is on the verge of being delisted
what could go wrong
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>>1503518
>Would it be retarded to put 20% down on 5 of them and rent them out?
yeah, you need some operating capital and savings for the inevitable problems and vacancies that will come up.

Maybe put half of your money into real estate and hold the rest at least until you've got reliable cash flow and some idea what the costs will be.

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How do I git gud at meme trading? Are there any other platforms aside from Poloniex.com?

I keep dreaming of exponential growth, doubling my gains every day till I become a millionaire. But so far I'm having problems even getting 10% gains every day.
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Tell me, /biz/.
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>>1503513
>2016
>Not earning 3600% a year investing in crypto

wew lad I'll pray for u
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>>1503567
>Not gaining 3600% gains every week.
C'mon tell me your secret. Where do you hide your spy cams inside the whale clubs?

Is Amazon stock overvalued?

It's looking extremely expensive to me.
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>>1503506
many people (especially in my county) are starting now to sell chimichonga stuff on amazon making good money.
theres are even courses for this.
amazon expected to be really big next few years and the rise begins now.
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>>1503509

That sounds like classic bubble behaviour.
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>>1503511
will rise... will fall... like anything...
but the you need to ride on the wave (assuming there is still one but it seems like there is)

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Is there a cheap way to lounder BTC? A fixed fee, like 0.001 BTC.
>inb4 deposit to SilkRoad and withdraw
It doesn't work any longer
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>>1503451
https://darknetmarkets.org/a-simple-guide-to-safely-and-effectively-mixing-bitcoins/

most fees are around .5%. just suck it up and pay.
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>65 cents to mix a limitless amount of coin
Man you're a cheap ass.
If anybody offers you that they're just going to steal your coin.
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>>1503451

Use Monero instead.

How do you guys keep cash coming in? this buy and hold for growth gives me anxiety I want some monthly dividends at least
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>>1503443
I work 36 hours a week. That's where 90% of my income comes from.
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Buy income class tracker funds if you care that much, but you're missing out. Accumulation accumulates.

Also Ivanka is so hot. Trump was justified in saying he'd date his daughter desu.
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Rental income for me.

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Hey, you moguls, am I being shafted legally or illegally?
Can I work 88 regular, non-overtime hour in a two week period?
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>>1503426
only over 14 days
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Depends where you live and your employment status.
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>>1503426
Just counted and that's a 16 day period.
Wageslavery sure is awesome.

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Hey Biz I'm 21 still in school but managed to save up 10k this summer, what shitcoin should i pump it all into when I get paid on friday?
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>>1503338
BURST. It's 3rd highest volume on polo so when you start to pump it will catch on quick. You can buy at 180-250 sats and sell at 500+ sats easily.
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>>1503368

what makes you think itll pump again?
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This board is fucking disgusting.
And people here wonder why they'll never be rich.

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I don't get it? When people get to the point where they are billionaires or even making like 50k a month why do they keep working and stressing about work? I realize circumstances are different for different people but I'm just talking about the people who clearly don't need to work anymore and can still buy anything they want. Why do they keep working instead of just traveling and enjoying their life at that point?
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>>1503318
Work ethic.
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>>1503318
Ambition.
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>>1503318
That becomes their identity and life purpose. Not everyone can just do little hobbies forever or get deep into philosophy and rationalize their existence.

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What are some useful things you can get certified in online in order to boost your resume?

I've seen a few useless ones like gem identifier.
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>>1503291
if you work in industry or use chemicals at all then an OSHA HAZWOPER 40 Hour is pretty dang useful to your employer.
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Getting your CDL is pretty easy. Pretty much any transport job is comfy. My first job was a box truck driver. Got to drive around all day, listen to music, sit on my phone while truck was being unloaded, etc. I then got my CDL and got into OTR. Wasn't for me so I quit and got a job as a yard jockey making $17/hour to move trailers around the lot when needed but otherwise fucked off. Take home almost $3K a month with overtime. I'm a high school dropout btw so this is dreamland for me.
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>>1503291
The Comp TIA exams, MSCEs, and similar certifications are stupidly easy and are pretty versatile. I got the A+ cert after studying for one day - not exaggerating. With that said, the harder, the better - the A+ is a joke, the MSCE/Cisco certs are better,

There are a lot of Coursera courses and their ilk, should you want to go that direction. I don't find them very impressive.

Personal trainer certifications are also decent - I have the CSCS, but it expired on me because I refused to do continuing...
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Am I not saving enough? I'm 29.

Average monthly take home income is $3,600.

I sort of loosely kept track of my spending and it came to about this.


~$500 Savings - Vanguard Retirement Mutual Fund

~$1,000 Housing - Includes mortgage principle and interest, house insurance, taxes, and utilities.
~$250 House Savings - Second savings account I allocate money towards for home repairs, upgrades, etc.
~$25 House Upkeep - Gas for lawn mower and weed eater, grass fertilizer, insect killer, etc.

~$400 Truck - Includes insurance,...
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>>1503288
>Am I doing okay?
probably. Keep up on your retirement and try not to cash out your house.

you're doing better than probably about 90% of people your age. If you really want to turn up the heat keep an eye out for opportunities to become self-employed in your field or seek promotion in your career. That's where the adults actually make their retirement. Moving up in management or striking out as a consultant or contractor. Obviously one of these is riskier than the...
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>>1503288
Didn't read this all but nice!

I'm 20 with just over $20k invested
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It's your decision really. I think it depends on some other factors such as what you do for a living, ie hard manual labor, you want to start saving more just because your body will start to decline, but if you have a cushy office job then that should be fine.

But looking at your expenses, the only thing I could really point out that I would say you should cut is your tv package. With netflix, plus like hulu and amazon if you have those, I don't think you would need to spend $100 on that a month. think, that's an extra 100 in your retirement every month....
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you in?
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>two weeks ago it was SKLN
>one week ago it was URRE
>today it is MGT

woo memes
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Think it will go up much?
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Don't forget BTU and NETE. Christ you newfags get here and start making crystals and microwaving your ifags. I'm glad people like you exist. Stay poor.

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Is your body ready?
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>>1503157
1 for Xaviers School's new scholarship fundraiser!!!!
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>>1503157
Yes. I'm 5 grand in on this until October.
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>>1503157
im ready senpai

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I just noticed that I implicitly view Mastercard as inferior to Visa.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Is it because their logo sucks?
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I view them as all the same. Maybe 15-20 years ago one was better than the other. Now virtually every store accepts both.
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>>1503124
Mastercard is stuck in the 80s/90s in the public psyche. Visa is the international card of the future. Amex is for people who want to appear rich. PRAISE VISA
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>>1503146

Do they just need to rebrand?

Why are they sticking with the two fucking circles?

Guys, please help me here. How do I start changing my mindset to think more about money?

I'm kind of a nice guy on the block, whom each time when I do stuff, I do it for free because of my "belief" that the more I give, the more I get mindset. I think that's bullshit. I'm currently employed and this is the only income I earn. Right now, when I think again (and getting back to reality), money is important.

This is my issue, how do I switch this old mind of mine to a new one who can manipulate my living lifestyle and earn more?
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>>1503122
>nice guy
No, you're not, you're a piece of shit, and let me tell you why. You do things for people only because of what you perceive is in it for YOU. That's the definition of selfishness.

Your problem isn't niceness, your problem is you're a spineless, gutless, piece of shit who somehow got it into your little, money-grubbing head that being everyone else's doormat would somehow benefit YOU.

You know why I'm being so hard on you? I...
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read think and grow rich
read 48 laws of power
read money sex power fame
do daily affirmations about making money
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>>1503122
>how do I think more about money

It's called realizing without money you're basically going to be a pathetic loser when you grow old. Keep that in mind and you'll have motivation.

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Was XMR a pump and dump? Will it ever reach .02 again?
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>>1503119
look at this and tell me what you think has more value
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>>1503132
Vcash
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>>1503132
Beginner in cryptos here. Can you explain what I need to see?

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I'll be having a 6-day College break and I'll be staying at my apt. for the time.
What can one College student do to get money in that time with some programming, animation, video editing skills and $500?
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Freelance coding, video editing, etc.

Check /gd/. They're always looking for designers.
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Host a party. Run an illegal card game.
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>>1503116
Use some of the money to buy knee-pads, makeup and baby towels, etc

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Hey fellow /biz/raelis. I'm a full-time college student (luckily) on a full-ride scholarship and I am currently going to be graduating with two majors. I hold two part-time jobs. I'm a remote web-dev and an on-campus computer technician. I'm at school from 8AM - 4PM, everyday, and work from 4PM - 8PM. The hours for my web-dev job are not consistent so often times I won't be completely done with work until 11PM-12AM.

I'm really tired, all of the time. At this point I'm just living in a perpetual state of tiredness. Don't get me wrong,...
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Sleep more (8hr), eat better, attempt to workout, take stimulants (caffeine)
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>>1503097
I take a 200mg caffeine tablet on days that I'm feeling more fatigued than usual, but this really doesn't help too much. I'm a regular coffee drinker as well and maintain a very strict, healthy diet (6'2, 165lbs).
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There's doctors that save lives working longer hours than you, and people serving in the military that barely get 2 hours of sleep at a time. Yet here we have another college student going on the internet complaining about how tough life is. Man up or kill yourself. You don't even have it that hard. Nothing about your day involves any physical exertion. You're just a lazy fat fuck that browses cartoon porn all day and calls it a computer technician job.

looking to buy a cheap laptop to do nothing but torrent movies/tv shows with

any suggestions?
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raspberry pi
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Why do you need a laptop? Get a seedbox
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chrome laptop

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>want to trade bitcoin
>buy bitcoin
>go to make account on poloniex
>can't join because New York
What do I do now?
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i dont get it.. why is NY forbidden from polo? Im not from Jew york btw
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NYC law makes bitcoin trading illegal without a license.

Just use a VPN.
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>>1503069

lolwat

why the totalitarianism, burgers?

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lets pretend that donald trump wins the elections, which stocks will go up and which ones will go down?
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How the fuck are we to know that?

Nothing probably, there would be no significant change other than an early dip from uncertainty like with brexit
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it will already be priced in by the time the market opens
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PEPE will moon by 200%

Berkshire Hathaway will crash and never recover

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So, what can we learn about viral marketing from all this?
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>>1503003
I saw a Youtube thumbnail of some faggot in a Guy Fawkes mask and closed the tab.
What were they marketing?
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>>1503010

The whole thing was advertising for a anti-abortion group/party/organisation. Guy reveals he's behind all the artwork and the website and how everyone is asleep to the real evil. Cut to graphic footage of abortions while dramatic music plays. Guy comes back on and explains that while people were looking for secret codes and symbols about the illuminati, babies were being aborted. The rest of the video goes on from there. Lots of shouting and screaming/

Basic message sort of like Jonathan Swift's...
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>>1503017
What a waste of good artwork.

can you really make money online doing epic memes like affiliate marketing or is it a scam

I just don't want to work for mr. goldberg
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>>1502999
Its possible, just not worth it unless you find an untapped niche. I would suggest you learn a skill and freelance if you want to make any solid source of income.
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CREDIT
CARDS
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try r9k

Hey biz, let's say I get a decent job, live frugally, and save my money. How much money would I need to have to start investing, and who would I go to that can invest my money? (I have no interest in studying the stock marker or real estate or anything like that.)
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you sound like a pretty good candidate for betterment.com, chcek it out.. no minimums, very low fees, creates a portfolio for you (stocks and bonds) based on age, risk tolerance, goals, etc.
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>>1502984
>wants to get into stock investing
>doesn't want to study the stock market or "anything like that"
L m a o o o
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>>1502988
Ah, so there are websites out there that have people working for them (who know what they're doing), and then you just put in however much money you want to put in and let the do the work?
Do they take a percentage of your investments or do they take a straight up fee?
And how does this compare to going to an individual person who knows what to invest in (real estate, stocks, etc.)?


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