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Judging by this forum, in 5-10 years the crypto markets will be much bigger than they are now and will take significant share from traditional markets.

Literally holding $1000- $2000 of any cryptocurrency or a selection of crypto currencies will make you a millionaire in 10 years time.
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>>1492714
>Vitalik
Ethereum will get rekt by regulators

>what a great idea! now anyone can sell illegal securities

this will be banned
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>>1492724
Crypto is literally inpossible to regulate.

There are already functioning decentralised exchanges, if the government tries to regulate the centralised ones people will just start using the decentralised ones.

Torrenting and media piracy has been illegal for a while now and it's still going on.

Welcome to the future
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>decentralized exchanges

Any decentralized exchange involving fiat requires centralized money transfer services which can be regulated

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Why the fuck are Baby Boomers so bad with money?

I gave my aunt $1000 two months ago, so she could have electricity and buy groceries for my little cousins. I visit her yesterday and find a fucking new television in their living room.

My own parents were flabbergasted that I had more than $10,000 in my checking account.
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Kek.
I gave my uncle some money about a month ago and he used it to repaint the interior of his room.
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answer is probbably the safety of living they experienced during their 20-50s.

dont be mad at them.
be mad at them when the state wants your money because your parents saved nothing for retirement.
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poor people are often poor for a reason and lack money management skills

you should have gotten the account number for her electricity and then used your bank's billpay, and given her gift cards for the grocery store (almost all grocery stores prohibit using their store gift cards to buy other giftcards, so that would limit the person to buying shit from the grocery store).

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'Think big' - Donald Trump

And yet he just owns some golf courses, apartment buildings and hotels. Hasn't invented anything, hasn't created anything fundamentally new, hasn't made a scientific discovery or solved a major national or international problem, hasn't cured ageing or reversed Alzheimer's.

Sad!
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>>1492536

Not being poor anymore

The ability tp spend money and not worry

My dream of starting a eco farm and outcompeting conventional farming on quality and cost (or at least become self-sufficient with products to sell at markets on top)

The numerous vacations, festivals and concerts I can choose to go to/on without worrying about financials
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>>1492545
being a hippie cuck is not compatible with /biz/

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Post yours, rate/hate others'

>inb4 "MUH DATA MINING"
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>>1492468
Canadian scores are a bit different. I think max is 900.
Im 745
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>>1492492
So do Americans. OP is a faggot.
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>>1492468
>using Experian

Completely useless service considering the fact that every company use their own independent credit score check system

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MSTX/Biotech thread

>what is MSTX?
Mast Therapeutics Inc.
>why should I care?
They're due to release phase 3 data for the results of their drug, ANX-188 - Vepoloxamer, sometime this month. Vepoloxamer is used to treat sickle cell disease (specifically the extremely painful fits that last days) and has been granted orphan drug status.

>MSTX corporate overview
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1160308/000156459015007971/mstx-ex991_6.htm
>MSTX...
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>>1492410
From where do you get this info?

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I don't understand how anyone could fall for this Keynesian economics meme. It's going to cause the biggest economic collapse the world has ever known.

Keynesian economics is basically just doubling down on a losing trade. Like when you buy blockbuster at $22 in 2004, and then it drops to $20 so you buy more, then $15 so you buy more, and $10, more.

Now it's fucking worth $0.

This is what I understand Keynesian economics to be on a global economic scale. What economy is going down? Better print more money get people to make bigger more desperate...
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>>1492389
1% of the population is "intelligent". most people who are intelligent want nothing to do with economics and are drawn to more challenging fields like science/math. this is how we fucked up. the smart people were so busy being smart, they forgot they were letting retards make their laws and economic policies. we are screwed. luckily our consequences will never really be what they should be. there will be a deus ex machina moment and these problems will go away after a few years-decades of tough times.
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Well I mean the alternative to stimulus is to let an irrational market drag down all businesses in a spiral where even the most steadfast company can't stay afloat. You decide which one is more conducive to maintaining the creation of wealth.

Also don't forget the social and societal costs of having to wait out a depression.
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Economics itself is a meme

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>havn't been on /biz/ for a while
>check the catalog
>people still hyping crypos as investments

seriously guys, cropto is a trade medium
trading them is like buying thousands of US dollar bills and speculating on the exchange rate

but even more foolish, because there is litterally nothing backing these "currencies" exept from inflation

inflation that is fact, generated solely from other people buying them under the same delusion

it's...
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>>1492352
why are you so upset about it?

Most people on biz aren't hyping them as long term investments, but short term holds over a few months at most. Bitcoin is different as that seems to have established the most legitimacy of all cryptos, so naturally some suggest long term holding.

Speculating in cryptos is a great way to make easy money. The simple fact is buying monero when all the dark net news came out helped me get 136 xmr at .0056 and I sold at .0214. I made around 400% doing nothing, trading these...
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>>1492352
If you can sell something for ten times more than you bought it for why do you give a shit that it's backed by fairy dust?
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>>1492352

t.Rothchild shill

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Hey guys, I've recently gotten my MD and plan on specializing in Allergy/Immunology. The median salary varies but typically land around 180k. Its a good salary for a single man but I'm married and the wife and I plan on having a couple of kids soon.

So with 180k per year, how does that bode with a family of 4? I'm in the SoCal area but possibly considering moving to NorCal or even elsewhere across the state.
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>>1492338
I raised 2 kids on $30k, you should be fine.
your housing costs a lot more than mine does, but other than that prices where I live are similar to yours.
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>>1492338
People raise families with far less. If an MD can't manage a family of 4 what fucking hope does everyone else have?

You're an idiot. Either specify exactly what you consider to entail raising your kids such as private schools and a million dollar house or get out. This is not an ego boosting session.
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>>1492338
ignore these poorfags. You cannot afford a house for 4 people in SoCal on only $180K. Is your wife mentally disabled or something? In what century do women stop working to shit out kids? I didn't think it was this one

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Xvc - Vcash

Monero is slow and will be bloated

Vcash, has instant transaction and quick synch, so it can be used on many devices

Dark net Markets would be better off using Vcash

Once monero is proven bloaty Vcash will take its place

DNM are better off
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>>1492288
I honestly don't know why Monero of all the dark cryptos is ascending right now.

Vcash is a Dash fork, why not just use the more widespread and established, and more liquid Dash? Don't forget no one gives a shit about instamine.
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>>1492295
Vcash is built from scratch
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>>1492288
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1442193.msg16154198;topicseen

It's the year 1960, and you live in socialist Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia is a bit different from the USSR, because it's a market socialist economy: there is some central planning (like any market economy), but most business is left to decentralized, autonomous co-ops. There is also a black market, and there are no taxes.

What would you do to start a business? Would you try to get some friends together and apply for funding for a co-op? Would you contact some Westerners and try to start up a smuggling operation? What sort of product would you sell, and how would...
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I find a way to connect the quality and affordable shoes of the West with Yugoslavia.

I become a millionaire by selling luxury goods
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Underrated thread.
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>>1492076
try to smuggle and sell ANY western product
>goli otok

open own business
>get fucked by the workers, none of them works, all slack, get large benefits due to the idiocy of the socialist regime

the dictator was one retarded fuck, he managed to fuck up a country he hijacked, that had a lot of potential, into a communist shithole and later into war.

t. was there, done that, got arrested for selling jeans from Trieste in the 80's

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does anyone have any experience getting off the call list for those fucking automated scam calls?

I fucked up and answered a spam call a couple years back and it put me in hell. Some hajeeb claiming he works for microsoft and my computer notified them that i have a virus and he wants to fix it for me.

since then I've been getting 2-3 calls a day. googling the number before i answer tells me they're automated call recordings trying to get your cc number etc. lots of htem are overseas scammers .

anyone know how to get off the list without changing...
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>>1492002
bumping for interest... at home I am getting calls all day long, really annoying.
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fucking bump, I registered a website with godaddy and now I get a call from pajeet every damn day, I fucked up and put my real number on the sign up, I changed it a few days after I realized I fucked up but I get my number is still in their databases

it's a different a number every time, shit sucks
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i really dont get their tactics

you get someones number, fine. You start spamming them and trying to pitch your scam on them, fine.

But when youve had a successful contact with the person and the pitch failed misserably, much less when theyve called you out for being a bullshit hajeeb scammer, why do you keep his number in circulation?

At that point i've made it clear that i know what you're tyring to do and wont be falling for your bullshit, any further efforts spent on me from that point forward is wasted time and money

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How much you would you need to be worth to comfortably buy a $60 million house. Don't say you wouldn't because you are
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1 Billion USD
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At least $600million

In other words, only 5 years of shilling cryptocurrencies on /biz/
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>>1491777
>$60 million house

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ITT Best and worst things about working in NYC
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>>1491369
best> networking/opportunities
worst> rent/lonliness


maybe you should invent an app to help ppl in nyc network and get together at cheap yet hip venues.
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>>1491369
Best - being near london.
Worst - being in England.
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>>1491369
I work in NJ and live in Jersey. Definitely wouldn't want to live in the city, I need a place to go back to that's got peace and quiet.

pros
>big earning potential
>networking opportunities, including international
>top institutions
>finance center of the world
>it's cool the first year

cons
>everything...
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What's the biggest mistake you've made in trying to make money?

I bought $1500 worth of grain free dog food from a wholesaler, thinking I could flip it on eBay. I sold one bag and the customer demanded a refund.
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Going to university
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>>1490635
I spent a year of my life and $10,000 trying to make it at a prop firm.
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>>1490635
Why did he demand a refund

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Game maker complete is only $15. ($800 on steam)

Now there is no excuse to not make shitty one tap android/ ios games that are super addictive to generate all that adsense money.

https://www.humblebundle.com/
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>or you can get gamemaker for free on tpb
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>>1490559
does game maker take a % of earnings?
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im interested but isn't the market saturated at fuck?

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I'm tired of living like this, I make $650/mo and live in a $300/mo apartment in USA

I am willing to do anything as long as it's legal. I'm not here to ask the broad where do I start, I want to know and please dont input unless you can answer.

Starting from nothing what did you do to make money independently? What are your first steps and how long did it take to achieve success.

Independent earners answer me only. This thread can be really useful to some.
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Is $650/month even fulltime minimum wags??
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>>1490425
Part time is a thing
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>>1490426
precisely.

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I am tired of all the wagecuckery anons. What programming languages do I need to learn so I can become successful and create income for myself?
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>>1490158
>How do I get rich programming? Btw I don't know anything about programming
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>tired of wagecuckery
>wants to get into programming

wew
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>>1490161
Gotta start somewhere anon

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Every single day on Poloniex I see random coins with +xx% change. Every day I miss the train.

How do I know which ones are gonna shoot up in advance? Is there some private P&D group that I'm not aware of? There's no natural way that these coins (which nobody cared about yesterday) can suddenly have thousands of BTC worth of volume.
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Stay away from shitcoins and you'll be good.
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>>1490145
You just have to be aware of the memes in the market A)..

and B) By the time it's already up xx% it's very risky to get it.

The people doing this kind of thing accumalate for days/weeks at low volumes, they're holding hundreds of BTC worth of those coins. The moment the noobs pile in, they dump. (Essentially they are robbing the noobs).

So for instance the current meme in the market is security and untracability.

The first and probably only 'real' coin here is XMR. Following it's success things like SDC and BLK have come out of the woodwork. These are most probably both premined and pre-loaded up by the pumper/dumpers.

The goal is to ride XMR's coatails to pump the price up a ton, and then dump the premined coin for something more worth it.


XMR itself is probably the only one that's still going to be registered in a year's time.

I mean its profitable in itself. If you really want to get xx% gains. Learn how to make coins. Pre-mine the shit out of them. Name them "anoncoin" or "Youcan'tfindmecoin", or some meme-y name; and then shill it till it gets listed on poloniex.

Itl'l go up a few hundred %, then you sell your pre-mined set for like 10-20k and rinse and repeat next month with next month's meme.
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>>1490170
And if I can'/don't premine the coin?

There are thousands of people who get into stuff like NAV or NAUT and dump when it shoots up. But how does it shoot up?

Who here /minimalist lifestyle/?

I started throwing away things I don't need and just completely disposing of things that serve little value and I can pack pretty much all my important belongings into one gymbag. Everything else is easily replaceable.

feels nice to not be so attached to shit lads. What about you?
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http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/07/31/the-problem-with-minimalism/
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>>1490105
>Art of cuckliness

That guy is literally a cuck. He gets bossed around by his wife. Yeah real "man"
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>>1490109
just read it chump

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Ethereum DevCon 11 days away. Where are you going to be when this skyrockets? If you don't have Ethereum, tell us about which method of suicide will you be utilizing 14 days from now.
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>>1489790
unless they have an exclusive announcement for a killer dapp I have a feeling that this conference will be mediocre of add no new additional value.

My personal conspiracy is the ETH price is only propped up until DevCon at which point the massive dump will begin.

Then again, they could announce something actually impressive.
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i hope it's good. i spent over a grand to get in
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The next big dapp that will overshadow the DAO

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What languages are best for buissness?
If you were to found a _____ company, which languages would be best for you to learn (besides english)?

Example: If you founded an mathematics and enginnering company, what would be the beat language to learn?

What language do you think will be useful to know in the future? What languages will be practically extinct in the buissness world?
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Either LooPoo or Mandarin for engineering. Quality of the employees will vary widely though
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>>1489414
It depends on where you're working... if your business is in Germany, you should probably learn German. If your business is in Idaho, learn English.
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>>1489414

Chinese here.

Don't learn Mandarin. It's fucking useless. Any Chinese that does business or programs knows English, period.

Any Chinese worth doing business with will know english.

German and Japanese are actually useful business languages.

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Nocoiners on suicide watch.
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it's monerians cashing out into BTC causing this.

maybe fags buying BTC to buy monero, either way, BTC is going up.


i've always said altcoins are BENEFICIAL for BITCOIN
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>>1488887
>1 away from quints
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when will we ever learn?

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>AMD
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>>1488854
Just hold it you faggot.

Its going to be bought out someday anyway.
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>>1488854
Just last week I was thinking about joining the train. But sometimes you just have to let others win in order not to lose.
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>>1488892

no fuck you

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>"hurr biz I have 20 dollars how can I make 6000 dollars before next month?"
>some newfriend thinks he's got "the best app idea ever" but doesn't know how to program
>a thread where some dudebro shills his FOTM cryptocurrency
>20 other threads made by the same guy, shilling the same cryptocurrency
>that one forex thread, you know the one
>inheritance thread number...
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I agree, this board had always been pretty bad. But lately it's getting infested by r9k too, which is a bad trend.

I only now come here to waste time.
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All the reasons you listed is why I love the Kneepads meme. It's the perfect shutdown.

I do think we need a sticky that says stuff like

>If you have under $5000, don't bother investing.
>"I want to start a business but I'm not sure in want" then you don't want to start a business.
>Read Ben Graham
>If you want to make money, accept you'll have to spend many hours a day on it.
>Day...
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>>1488806

stop whining you little bitch

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>TFW neet highschool dropout kiss less virgin in Ontario Canada

How can I fix my life and become normal?

I don't have any experience but I have a desire to get a good job and become successful
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>>1487658
join the military you slob. it's canada so you'll never have to worry about going to war.
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>>1487664
they're extremely picky for that reason

There's no chance they'll take a NEET like me. Id love to though.
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>>1487658
Lol this is the last place to be asking that kind of advice.

I'm in Ontario too, where you at? I'll come over and smash your bum

...How did this guy get a net worth over $100,000,000, again?
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>>1487609
Shit attitude is prerequisite to being rich.
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he has a network of like 40k

did you read the sec filings?
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>>1487609
by being a scam artist and sociopath...

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>>1476770
Ducks for them
Good for my company OOCL
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>>1476770
>>1476806

>$344 million

they cannot raise even the money of this sum
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Hanjin shipping line is dead
Is Hyundai Merchant Marine ok???

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/CCG/ - Cryptocurrency General

Old thread reached bump limit >>1461662
ACCESS TO ELITE TRADING GROUP FUND
>http://pastebin.com/ecE9pnST

Trading crypto tutorial
>http://alunacrypto.blogspot.sg/2016/03/bitcoin-altcoins-trading-complete-guide-cryptocurrency-tutorial-trading-strategy-fundamental-analysis-technical-analysis.html

List of incoming pumps
>https://coins-to-watch.readme.io/

List of places to buy/sell/trade...
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Hold XMR.

It will pump again when XMR gets added to Alphabay.

Anyone know what the biggest DNMs are?
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>>1472284
AB is the biggest but very few listings are preparing to accept xmr
Should be cashing out pretty soon at least a bit in case those russians were just planning a pumpndump with an exit scam
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Hold XMR till the 1st at least, depending on where you bought in. Looking at 15 min candles looks scary right now, but 1 day candles look so much more comfy.

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I made $1.2 million dollars and lost it all. AMA so that you do not repeat my experience once you hit big.
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>>1493797
AMA from a loser? I don't think so.
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>>1493797
story
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How did you lose it all?

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OK I'm new to trading crypto (but not new to trading). I've got a couple of questions:

firstly - what methods are there to short crypto? I can see that there are some crypto derivatives - i.e. you can spreadbet on BTC/USD at IG and spreadex which would allow you to go short - this isn't ideal really but is one option

but is this possible in the underlying (without going through some convoluted process such as borrowing from a friend etc..)

I mean the exchanges seem to act as brokers and clearers too - do any of them facilitate the lending...
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>>1493787
and just on that second question... do any have matlab APIs?
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You can short shitcoins on Poloniex. There is a coin called USDT that is tethered to USD. You could go long on that with leverage at Poloniex. Probably look into the specifics of how the tether coin works though. Most exchanges have APIs, Poloniex does but idk about Matlab.
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https://www.coinpursuit.com/pages/crypto-exchanges-buy-sell-bitcoin/


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