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You guys hear any good rumors lately? Have a bit of cash I'm sitting on.
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>>1384566
i heard that europe is fucked. dow jones up! up! up!
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>>1384566
KNPD is a sure thing
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yeah i heard KNPD is merging with SUCC.

$$$

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Hi /biz/

I'm trying to decide which kind of house loan is better for me, and I'm hoping for some advice

House is $285k
30 year fixed rate is quoting 3.537% APR
15 year fixed rate is quoting 2.850% APR

I'm putting up 30K as down payment

resulting in a monthly payment of
30y: $1,452
15y: $2,048

My debate is is it better to save that ~$600/mo and try to invest

or bite the bullet and try to pay as little interest as possible.

my total paid at the end of the loan math works out to
15y: $312,871
30y:...
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>>1384528
Paying off loans is for suckers. Get a short term loan with a small interest rate, only pay the interest. Then after 10 years or do take out another loan and pay off the old loan. Repeat forever
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>>1384528

if you plan to move 3 times within the 30 years you will be better off to have just rented and invested in indexes (by historical returns)

you're a smart guy, but when I buy my house I'm going to attempt to pay my house off within 10 years. Not sure if I'm doing 15 or 30 year though.

just know if you do a 30 year mortgage and keep moving you're fucking yourself of gainz
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>>1384528

Open up an excel spreadsheet, and put in your mortgage payments/balance.

Now, calculate your net worth after 15 years if you took the 15-year mortgage.

Then, assume some interest rate for investments (say, 5-6% in some index fund), and assume you pay the 30-year rate, and dump the $600 difference into investments every month.

Compare your net worth under each plan after fifteen years. Pick the plan with the higher net worth (hint: it's the 30-year mortgage.)

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Told you so. doubled my money and still soaring goes to show don't listen to /biz/.
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who else has invested in bombardier?
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>even a broken clock is right twice a day
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>>1384449
Bombardier going up?

... b-better buy buttcoins!

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WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKS TOLD ME TO BUY
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only two memes you should go all in on are MNKD and NXTD.

everything else is, and will remain, a meme.
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>>1384423
Why are they called meme? I never really understood that
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>>1384423
I'm never trusting you faggots again.

I'm sticking with safer bets like AMD and Sprint which have done me solid the past couple months unlike meme stock SAEX.

I even remember the smug Pepe that /biz/fag shilled the stock with. Pic related.

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Hi Anons. I'm going to be attending a Liberal Arts School starting this fall. It's not a top school, but it's decent (top 75 LAC).

Anyways, I already know I want to major in Economics. However, with all the AP credits I have, I have come to the conclusion I'll be able to double major pretty easily. You take 36 courses, and I need to take about 10 or 12 more to fulfill my general graduation and major specific requirements.

Because I'll be able to potentially finish up Economics my second year, I figure a double major might be a good solution....
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The only thing that matters is that you graduate with as little debt as possible

Don't fall for the top school meme. It's just a way to get people to over pay
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>>1384393
College advice belongs in >>>/adv/

Also, congrats on getting into a shitty school
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>>1384397
I have a good merit scholarship and my parents are paying the difference

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Soup /biz/.

So I'm about to come into a large amount of money, and I want the absolute safest investments one can make.

No stock market gambling and shit, I mean real secure, like government bonds.

Suggestions?
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Nothing is totally "safe". Right now govt bonds pay very low interest rates. If it's really a lot of money I'd break it into pieces:

40% Income Property (Commercial, Residential, etc)
40% Vanguard Low Cost Total Market Index Fund VTSMX
15% CDs and Bonds
5% Liquid Cash

This mix protects you in many ways. No need to trade or gamble or time the markets if you don't want to. Just buy, hold, live off the rental income. You can get a property manager if you don't want to handle the day to day. That's what I do. :) Good luck!
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>I mean real secure, like government bonds.

hm i wonder
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>>1384337
tbills maniga. not greece tbills though.

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How are these places for gaining work experience in the finance industry?

I'm talking about less then a year, just to get your foot in the door. Anyone have experience with these types of places? I imagine it's pretty shit but is it worth it?
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>>1384310
believe it or not the ceo of goldman sachs worked at one of the early payday loan places as a teenager.................nah

try /r9k/

pleb
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>>1384329
What a constructive post, hows first year business school going?
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>>1384333
have you tried /r9k/ yet? i think you'd love it there!

If I'm convinced that a security will go up...why would I buy it instead of buying stock options?

Stock options are much, much cheaper and will provide me with greater leverage.

Any reason not to do it?
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>>1384215
time decay
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Unlimited risk.
Margin expense.
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>>1384224
unlimited risk is only if you're writing a call

i guess technically you could write a put at any price you wanted and thus have essentially unlimited risk that way too

if you're buying a call or a put, the worst that can happen is the option expires worthless

How do I short Turkish Lyra against Nintendo?
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>>1384165
should've bought nintendo a week ago and sold it off today, then bought usd/try or eur/try or some shit
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>>1384314
>selling nintendo
>before the asia launch
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>>1384318
he's asking how to short try against nintendo, i am telling him how to do it

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So I am a programmer at a vending machine company. Me and my friend applied for a project 6 months ago. Project is a software for vending machines. They told us that the project should've been finished 2 years ago, it is their last chance. Project deadline was 1st of July, machine shipments arranged for 18th of July. We couldn't finish the software in time as there were unexpected modifications, other coworker just finished sequences on 11th of July instead of June, there are still no translations etc. The thing is that the company's future depends on this project,...
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>>1384151

>shit doesnt work
>im going on vacation
>feel sorry for me

i hope you end up homeless faggot. its a fucking vending machine plz tell me more how you havent dicked off for the last 6 moths.
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>>1384158
We got the finished sequences last day, without testing it likely won't work. We have tomorrow, if I'd be there I couldn't do more, why would I cancel a 2000€ vacation if it doesn't help? If the deadline would be e.g. 24th of July I would've cancelled it, but right now we'd just lose more money as we can't make it tomorrow (not in the office either)
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>>1384158
Guess you missed the part where somebody else dicked around for 2 years before OP got involved.

I've been on a project that was years late before I came on board and the employer, after tying my hands for 6 months, had a shit fit over the lack of progress. It's not a fun place to be, especially when you need the paychecks to keep coming in.

I also see OP was held up waiting for others and encountered "unexpected modifications" which is often code for "the business area is fickle...
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Can someone explain to me what "Financial Aid" really is? The technical college I want to go to said Financial aid and grants pay for most of the school there. But my mom told me that financial aid is a loan you pay back, and she makes too much money for me to qualify. Is there truth to this? I dont want to pay the 6k for the schooling
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>>1384081
Financial Aid is a mixture of loans and grants. Mostly loans though
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You fill out a free form called FAFSA. If you are under 24, you are a dependent, and so you need to fill out your parent's income information. Once you are done, you get a number called the Expected Family Contribution(EFC). This goes to your school. The school uses this information to give you financial aid.

Financial aid comes in several forms. Financial aid from the government comes in both grants and loans. The name of the grants are the PELL grant and SEOG. There are several loans from the government. Each college can also offer their own grants and loans....
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>>1384153
I am 22 and my mom makes to much money so I shouldn't even bother right because she makes too much? And isn't it tons of paperwork that will poss her off?

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Short on Turkish Lyra guys and become filthy rich.
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funny how the TRY has had the adverse reaction..It soared shortly before market closing. hmm
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5% down already.
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>>1384067
i think this is most likely turkies only chance to become a civilize place... maybe the army can teach these roaches some manners.

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Turkey Coup -
PayPal Turkey shutdown weeks ago. The only way Turkey/Anons can move cash now is BTC. Here we go boys MOONSHOT time!
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>>1384065
>only way
Kek. To be young and naive again....
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there's no way someone as dumb as op has money to invest - meaning he's taken up the cause of bitcoin shitposting on 4chang without a stake in the game

mental illness truly is a terrifying thing
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go fuck yourself - mr mental illness. I'll have you know my trust fund is substantial. I do not work but I def have skin in the game. BTC is one of my many investments but I confess I spend more on coke and bitches.

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I would like to start making money in cyber security industry on my own name (freelancing / my own business). Currently, I work for big international company (~100k people) as a penetration tester, but I would like to work for myself.
I have skills (and proveable experience) in the field, so I would like to do something like ethical hacking contracts and such services.
My question is, how do I get contacts? How do I prove people that they need me, and should pay me to test their networks? It's not like I can "hack in" out of blue and then tell them that...
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>>1384061
bump, since I am completely out of ideas
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>>1384061
My idea was to do tests for free, and companies would pay me only if I would be able to breach them. But that doesn't resolves my problem - lack of contact in such companies.
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Bug bounties

which one of you poor cucks just invested in this

>tfw almost did yesterday
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>>1384021
Is the company bankrupt?

What causes this drop?
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solar in general is having a rough time on the market
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>>1384021
Buy the dip!

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>start firm A
>firm A takes out loan to buy asset
>start firm B
>firm A sells asset to firm B massively discounted
>file for for firm A's bankruptcy

What could go wrong?
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Someone eventually has to take the fall for it though
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Bankruptcy legal proceedings will review all of firm A business transactions. Once common ownership is determined firm B might be held liable
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>>1384014

postpone that shit for years and by the time it happens you are on the beach in another country with millions

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HOLY SHIT GUYS, THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE TONIGHT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SHORT IT AGAINST?
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>>1383994
Can you please explain to me what a short is? I don't get this shit. I think I'm retarded.
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>>1384035

When. You take a financial position that a security will be valued less in a given time frame rather than more.

That's it really.
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>>1384035
It's the opposite of buying low and selling high.

You sell high and buy low. (yes, you sell stock you don't own)

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Warning:

This is a thread for winners only. If you are not a winner, please, close the tab.

This thread of winners only is to talk of winning in Forex. Forex can be your worst nightmare, but also, your best dream.

I personally trade using SMA 25 and EMA 50. This is all I need to hear the beautiful music of Forex, which only winners can hear.
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>you will never be so autistic that you make weekly forex threads in biz
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>>1383984
>tfw I'm a loser and still posted in OP's fag thread
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>>1383984
winner here. i use 15 and 30 both ema. what time period do you use?

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TURKEY MILITARY COUP!!!

How do I make money of this? Short turkish airlines??
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>>1383960
Wow, really?

Cool
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>>1383960
Any inverse EFTs that have to do with turkey? Help a NEET out.
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>>1384024
just short Turkey Titans 20

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How do I profit off the destruction of Turkey?
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>>1383888
buy oil
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>>1383888

short TUR
http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TUR
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Vote Trump.

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Leveraged Buyouts: How do

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>>1383816

1. get some leverage
2. buy a company
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>>1383918
I've heard there are ways to do it without risking your own money. Like you use the assets of the business as collateral. Is this actually possible?
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>>1383925
yeah just start a private equity firm like Bain Capital. mitt romney worked there and he's a complete fucking idiot, so you should be able to do this no problem. just do the research!

10min left in trading day please vote here
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>>1383807
Yes
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>>1383807
do it faggot
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>>1383807
there stock has already gone down so much over the past year can it really go down more? maybe stimulus will cause it to go up.

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Best business industry?

Plain and simple
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>>1383761
Successful male pornstar.
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>>1383761
Being rich and living off dividends
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I feel like real estate is pretty high up there isn't it? Or has that become a joke

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What is a good way for a brand new security company (physical guards) to get some contracts with clients?

i'm sitting here fumbling with ideas but i'm trying to think of a reason why a client would choose us instead of another established security company to cover their sites.
i'm having a hard time networking with other guard companies as the smaller ones are very competetive/not friendly because they hold on to any contracts and contacts they get ahold of.

Would it be unethical for me to conduct a free and random security audit on sites i'm...
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Basically by being willing to put up with more shit.

Fewer guards, more danger, shittier hours, tolerate more Bullshit from clients.

It's a terrible industry that is literally ruled by full powered faggots.
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>>1383678
Step (1): Tell company to buy etherum
Step (2): Company owes you for gainz
Step (3): Force them to use your shitty company
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>>1383678
Based on the questions you're asking, you have no experience in the industry. Entering a market without network nor professional experience ends up in bankruptcy 99.9%.

There's is still a <1:1000 chance you get really lucky and end up really fucking rich. This should not be your primary business plan though.

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I sell cryptocurrency locally. I just received this email does /biz think I should consider this? If I wait for his money to clear the bank it will be legit correct?
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please make me your mlro and i'll become a millionaire from this
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Money laundering, eventually this will stop
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>>1383603
He's pretty much paying you to take the IRS heat for him.

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So I have a way I can go to college for free the only thing is tuition is free but not housing or anything. The best way I can think of doing it is moving somewhere while working and getting on my feet then pick up classes on the side when I feel comfortable with my living situation.

There's a few schools I'm looking at out in LA, Atlanta, Chicago, and Miami. I was wondering if I chose Los Angeles as my city would I be able to get some roommates and find a room around $600 a month? If I got something for that price would it be possible to afford on low wages? Something like 1,400 or so a month? Really all I'm looking for is a closet room and to just eat ramen noodles and sandwiches every day. Or is it just not possible?
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>>1383599
Do they not have student accommodation and student loans in the US?
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>>1383639
I don't want to fuck around with loans and coming back and forth across the country every couple months
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>>1383650
Then have fun being poor you fucking idiot. Take out a Sallie Mae loan and pick a good major.

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What industries will profit most if Donald Trump wins the presidential election?
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>>1383551
Masonry
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Emmigration
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>>1383551
wigs

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Anyone here that has any experience in buying shipping containers as an investment?
Then renting them out through another firm, that handles everything, or just renting them out yourself.

Is it a wise investment?
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The whole thing just seems so shady to me. Like for example, I feel like a lot of the websites that sell the containers, have fake reviews and shit.
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My parents rented one to store shit in while they renovated the house. I forgot how much it was per month, but basically once you've paid a total of $4000 on it you can keep it if you want.
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>>1383525
I know someone who owns a carpet company, and he owns about 10 of these and rents them out. He does well, but he has his company to fall back on.

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Whitestone REIT:
So here are the facts:

7% dividend
stable growth
quality company
invests in high quality real estate

Is this a good idea or am I missing something?
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>>1383508
Really estate doesn't grow very much long term. Ride the wave
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anyone?

its been featured here: http://www.suredividend.com/monthly-dividends-wsr/
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>>1383508
ive had this on my watchlist for a while
i havent' looked at it for a few weeks but lemme check real quick

no, do not buy
never buy into strength

>tfw you wanted to buy some shares in jan but didn't cause you didn't have the spare capital

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>when one of your listings gets delisted from the NYSE and you lose all of your stock

How the fuck do I lose my stock when the company is still publicly trading on other exchanges?
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If you are under 21 you are not allowed to trade penny stocks, atleast i am not. so could be your broker who just said yea fuck you you should have been more careful ?
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Last time it happened to me my brokerage at the time (Scott trade) sold my shares automatically at like 20 cents per share. Even though it went to the bb's.
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I'm so sorry to hear about this op

Hopefully you'll be able to get your $11 back somehow


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