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Starting out in the stock market and investing tips and recommended entry to the stock market.
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>>1372139
30 year Japanese bonds
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In the turbulent, modern economy, you'll want aggressive returns quickly. For that there's only one option

30 year Japanese bonds
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>>1372162
I DISSAGREE! jap bonts have extremely high return rates and there for must be a scam. Burn the money as that is most sure fire way to profit

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Have 3.2k going into college next year. What should I do with the money? I'm thinking of investing it or just putting it in a savings account, but idk. Will probably work during the school year too.

I have a meal plan, which is 20 meals or so a week. Oh and my college is payed for, so no worries about denbts.
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>>1372096
Don't invest it, you will have to use that 3k for things like travel expenses, food, textbooks, extra curricular etc.

If you are set on investing, just dump like 2k in to a market wide fund or something and don't think of it ever again.
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>>1372101
Textbooks are paid for as well, but yeah I can see those other things. What is an example of a market wide fund? Like the S&P?
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>>1372101
this, keep it in savings, you never know when you might need it. 3k is nothing

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Started a new job recently. Boss told me the wage would be 15$/h, but got my first check today and it's actually 11.25$/h (minimum wage here). Naturally I'm pissed as I've already clocked 100h+ and I thought I'd be getting a lot more than this. Can I do anything if he refuses to change to my wage to what he promised?

In Canada, btw
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>>1372086
Go to college and get a career
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>>1372086
I'm not sure about Canada specifically but I know in the US that's incredibly illegal and you could sue him for the lost wages
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>>1372087
I am in college, it's summer. Sorry if I missed your epic meme, first time on this board

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Alright, /biz/. You guys are smart and think outside the box and I'm kinda losing it. I'm having a really bad time. My finances have fallen apart in the last few weeks. I lost my job last friday and have a $378 traffic citation to pay on the 16th. I had the money...but another stroke of bad luck hit me two days ago when my 3 month old kitten's leg got crushed in my front door. After a $700 vet bill...I have next to no money left. I have no family to ask either. I wouldn't mind letting the ticket go unpaid and taking the jail time but my kitten won't...
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>>1371968
Don't put yourself in charge of a life for selfish reasons if you have less than a thousand dollars in the bank.
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>>1371968
This sounds like a parody of what's going on with Deutsche Bank right now
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>>1371968

>Own pet
>Can't afford for self

You already fucked up

Eat the cat and save a few trips to the grocery store.

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> You will never be the CEO of one of the most powerful finance firms of the world, and be worth $1billion

Why even live guys?
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>>1371967
at least im not a jew
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>>1372005
I'm Jewish and I'd rather be rich, Jewish and powerful then poor, Christian, and homeless.
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>>1371967
try r9k

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Please tell me it can't be this fucking easy
>>Remember when oil was like at $19
>>Buy a shit load of oil
>>Realize it is now at $46
>>Sell
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>>Profit
What is the catch?
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>>1371953
Yep, you literally need to be a moron to be poor. Curious thing is that most people are. Now, advanced question: what can you buy now for cheap that you could sell for a big profit in 6 months? (Tip: it was expensive, now its cheap, and it will be more expensive then its now in some time)
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>>1371958
Oil?
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>>1371958
I literally cannot believe it is this fucking easy you have got to be kidding me

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Now that going to college is the new norm, are skilled trades a viable option to make money given you start your own business or do contract work? We essentially have over educated and underskilled workforce.

https://hbr.org/2014/08/employers-arent-just-whining-the-skills-gap-is-real/
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>>1371948
It depends entirely on the trade. Is 30 dollars an hour worth being in an attic all day or dying from welder's lung at 35? Then you have the problem that many trades aren't growing. Obviously all of them aren't bad and everyone has their own tolerances, but quite a few trades are works of passion unlike whatever the fuck it is drones do in an office/factory/field.
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>>1371948
Listen I want to dispel this fucking myth... I have a college degree and I have worked in a trade. Working in a trade FUCKING SUCKS. It is dirty dangerous and underpaid.

It is far better to work in an air conditioned office pushing paper than be surround by idiots (trades attract literally lowlife idiotic scum). You will be tired and worn out after a long fucking day. It is not so great. Go to college just don't study some liberal art. Get a useful skill based career like in medicine or accounting or engineering....
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>>1371948
> going to college is the new norm
> We essentially have over educated and underskilled workforce.

I went back to school for a CS degree.

I talked to CS seniors, who tended to be in the top half of the class. NONE of them knew what software version control was.

If you're interested in computers, and you go to school for CS, and you work as hard or harder than the top 5% hardest working people in your class, and you do projects...
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I'm stuck in QA Hell in the Midwest. I started applying a few places in Seattle to be closer to the family. I just got the first ping back.

What's the standard for references in Seattle tech? I have four - three from a previous position and one at my current. (We have 0 support, and I'm one of two engineers.)

Should I expect something like the "Seattle No" if they're not interested? At this point, I'm assuming "we're proceeding with other candidates" as the default.
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>>1371883
Polite bump. I'm a stranger in a strange land here.
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>>1371883
Bumping, because /g/ was helpful, but this may be a broader question. Does anyone have experience in recruitment in Seattle?
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I used to work there and have friends who work at Google and Facebook there. It depends on your experience and where you're applying.

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hey /biz/
I should have around $10,000 in savings by the end of September this year. If all goes well, and life doesn't happen, by January of 2017 I should have an extra $5,000 to play with.
Any tips and tricks for penny stocks? Or should I steer clear of them and play in the stock market? What's the best way to invest my money?
>inb4 401k
fuck that shit.

Any good books that you guys recommend for beginners?
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>>1371882
Use it all to short 2 year t bills.
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long Btc, sell when it hits 665 cause that's resistance right now. When it breaks that in the next couple of weeks at 670, long again. You can literally just keep long and shorting between 640 and 664 right now and make bank.

Short ETH in a week or so or whenever the time limit is up for the DAO hacker decision

https://whaleclub.co/join/CiCCMS

Do it there cause the spreads are good right now and probably the most straight forward exchange when it comes to leverage trading.
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>>1371886
What are t bills? I'm sorry, I know almost nothing about investing. You might as well assume you're talking to a retard.

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Should I continue to put money into PRWCX? I currently only have $1500 in it.

I am a young guy and I'm not trying to get rich quick. I just need a better place to store my money than a bank account.
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>>1371812

>buy DRD
>7-10% daily gains

Memes are the way to go.
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>>1371832
I'm not enough of a Wolf of Wall Street for that kind of thing.
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>Expense ratio: 0.70%

Sell out of that shit and just buy VTI.

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How realsitic is making $1,000,000 (One Million) a year from a business? I'm crunching my numbers now and to be honest it looks like i'll be lucky to break 50k - 75k a year with the business I'm starting, give or take.
>feelbadman.jpg
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>>1371725
explain your business and I'll tell you if you're fucked
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>>1371725
Expand it or make more businesses.

What are you sellin OP?
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>>1371725
Very if you star of with 2mln budget

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I've just started investing, been throwing around £1000 per month into stocks since January. I went for long term, stable dividend paying stocks - pic related

If I keep throwing money into these companies, will this be fine? Or would I be much better off investing in other means? I'm pretty much a complete beginner
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>>1371666
so you just showing off?
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>>1371672

I'm trying to get advice on whether I should just keep investing into these 'safe' stocks, or whether I should be investing in other means for gains
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>>1371680
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3984514-high-dividend-investing-winners-losers-opportunities-following-brexit-vote


>look i posted it again!!!

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Fastest growing region in the United States, Go!
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>>1371646
car insurance
as cars get safer, payouts lesson
and every driver is legally obligated 2 pay car insurance .
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I meant geographic location
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>>1371652

Any booming hipster town. I've heard Fayetteville, Arkansas has grown quite a bit in the past couple years in population and real estate has started to go up. I believe it's where the Walmart HQ is located as well.

I'd personally never want to live there though.

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It's over, cut your losses. Congratulations to those with the foresight to short.
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Nice miniscule thumbnail, bro...
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>>1371619

The picture is as small as BTC's future
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>>1371619
>125x32

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Hi /biz/, anyone else having shit social communication at work due to being the youngest person there?

I'm 10years younger than my all of my colleagues and way too direct in my communication (90% of everything I say is work-related and it sometimes pisses people off.) I'm one of those 'no fun allowed at work' people I guess..

How the fuck can I fix this? Any reading-material etc? I already tried asking them for their holidayplans & their children, but after that they just shut down (they literally never ask me things about my personal life).


inb4...
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In a similar position, but my situation is almost completely different from yours. I'm about 7-10 years younger than most of my colleagues, and I only ever say hi, bye, or something work related.
They'd make half assed attempts to make conversation so in return I'd give them a half assed response. Truth be told, I don't like talking about my private life with my colleagues.

You kind of remind me of a co worker of mine. Are you sure you're not just socially awkward?
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>>1371542
> Are you sure you're not just socially awkward?

I am socially awkward, but I'm also only work-focused, which seems to piss off some people. My boss likes that I work hard without bullshitting, but I'm not making any friends with it.
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There's nothing wrong with being a "boring person". There's no reason to waste your time talking about last night's baseball game or someone's kid's piano recital. If others are pissed off that you are focused on work, then they are the ones being unprofessional.

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So how do I manage to inspire and motivate myself to chase my business dreams?

I have tried a few things. The most recent thing I have done is pic related- I created a biography that I hope will sit on my company website in 10 years when my business is successful. I read it every night before bed so I can finally motivate myself to succeed...

but it isn't enough. I still feel afraid of failure.
What do I do? Surely some success stories from /biz/ can help me?
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Uhhh actually putting the effort into achieving your dreams little by little till you're there?
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I cringed

also pic related
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Anon, I don't know what to say.

Just work hard to make real people happy with your candies.

Another day, another dollar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUC5s5K0Fdc
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>>1371280
How do the neets afford this lifestyle?

Don't their parents kick them out eventually?
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>>1371283
Autismbux is the way to go.
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>>1371284
How much are autismbux?

Here in Canada they're kind of hard to get and you get maybe ~$1000/month at most even for legit physical disability.

Seems kind of low to actually live a fulfilling life.

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Hi i made a thread awhile ago when i was still struggling to be involved in coprate security in the UK, (no one probably remembers ;_:)
Well i succeeded in my endevour and now work a very comfortable job guarding a massive warehouse at what i think is reasonable pay.

However in a couple of months i think id be finacially sound enough to progress to the next level i want to be at: personal security. I'm working on my fitness and reading up on requirments but theres one, major thing i noticed: the only people who get hired well in personal security who dont have a previous history of serving in the armed forces all have one thing: Firearm's training.

I'd take this guestion to /k/ but I feel it would both slide into oblivion with all the recent turmoil the boards facing and i got some genuinly great answers from people here. I mean hey, advice here got me this far.
(pic somewhat related, i know it wouldnt be practical but bloomin' hell would i feel badass if if I could guard someone with one of these tucked under my jacket)

Anyone else wanting to ask for advise carrer-wise is welcome to post here also!
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Bump.

Just to check, is this board slow or Is my question really boring or unintresting?

Sorry! fudged up the OP. My question was: whats the best country to go to cost wise to recive valid firearm training that the british goverment would accept?
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Hi OP, Britfag student here. I have a buddy who would love some advice from you and perhaps start a business venture in private security. I know it's a long shot, but is there a way I can put you two in touch?
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>wanting to do personal security in a non gun friendly country without a background in the military or police
sorry OP but I don't think that's going to be possible. Even here in America I live in a non-gun friendly state and the only people who get concealed carry licenses are ex police and millionaires who say they need guns or they'll get kidnapped.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovXOZjxFB00

Gods aka Bitcoin holders ready?
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Remember to hold, we are witnessing history. Just hold Bitcoin and become filthy rich in 10 years, as you are holding the most important asset ever. What a time to be alive. Nocoiners in denial just confirm this law.
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The God Is Here.
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>>1371116
why

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/biz/ how exactly am I supposed to "backtest" my trading ideas? am i supposed to go over charts in detail and see if my ideas were right, or are there programs that do it automatically?
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>>1371109
back testing is a waste.
Just find a strategy, ichi, fibs, patterns, and go scroll back and just test how the strategy works.

Backtesting is for people to learn the basics of how a system or strategy works.

Yes, they are programs out there, i believe thinkorswim,ninjatrader, and a couple of others have great backtesting tools, like "real time" back test where candles will act like its in real time.

But yea no reason to waste time backtesting. Just go and do real live paper trading...
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>>1371152
Thanks, but the reason I want to backtest is to speed up the usual 6 months of paper -trade testing required for a new idea
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>>1371152
>go scroll back and test how the strategy works
>scroll back
>test how it works
>back
>test

>>1371109
Write code. Helped me find out that the 3 arrows method is bologna.

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I inherited my Grandmother's condo several months ago when she passed away. Some relatives came out of the woodwork hearing about all this money/property in her will so obviously took several months of lawyer crap but I finally have the deed in my hand. No mortgage or nothing, I own it outright.

The condo is a dump, almost everything is broken and needs some major renovation. I had it looked at by an appraiser (no, did not tell the govt anything about it yet) and he said it's in the $85k range. The condos in the same building are worth $110k but because of the renovations needed it could never sell for that much.

I am paranoid about cheap contractors running away with my money, because I have heard of such horror stories. So going with a reputable, larger well known renovation company they estimated $30k to fix everything and that includes brand new appliances, carpet, paint, etc. Maybe that quote is too much, I have no clue about construction stuff.

It could probably rent for $800/month in this area, but property prices went to hell in the recession and haven't recovered since. So I don't see the property value going up anytime soon unless more businesses setup shop in the future.

Should I just sell it and be done with it or fix it up and hold onto it/rent it out?
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Rent it out and start building passive income.
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>>1371084
If the neighbourhood isn't too shitty I would rent it out. You can get more money out of it in the long run.

I wouldn't try to be too cheap about it though, you'll have more trouble with things breaking down far to often.
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sell it
you most likely dont have your risk spread out

or
mortgage it while renting it out
spread out your risk

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Hey guys, it's my first time posting on /biz/, and I come at you guys with a scenario. Not sure if this would be better posted else where as I didn't see a real 'US Law' channel on 4Chan.. Anyway,

Employer A is a family owned, seasonal work hotel that caters to upper class white people for Spring and Summer peaks. Employer A has hired a South American J1 Visa worker to work in Housekeeping as her primary task. Now advance to Peak of Season. The Employer has asked the J1 worker to also buss tables in the restaurant. Bussing is a tipped position. From the average 'per person per plate' numbers, a bussers tip out earns more than a houskeepers standard wage. However, Employer A refuses to grant their J1 worker the bussing tips they've earned. Is this legal under any state or federal law?

tld;dr is it legal to have someone work in two separate departments that are paid differently but only pay them as if they were doing the less paying of the two?
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Bump for self interest

Also, this is obviously a real life scenario. Im trying to see if there's anything the state labour department can do about it
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It is illegal to not grant an employee their earned tips no matter what job, but especially if it is a tipping job. If the employer agreed to pay her the same wage bussing as a housekeeper and she continued to make tips, she is entitled to both her normal pay and her tips. Keep in mind that the employer is not paying her tips; so they're basically taking money she earned thay they have no right to.

State laws may be different. Look it up yourself before doing anything about it.
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And that's how I see it also.. Is there more information you could help me with? I'm doing research on the matter but I can't find anything substantial..

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ITT: let's discuss some shitty jobs/bosses we've had to endure to scrape up some coin for our success

I don't really have too much but one time I was working next to literally all women and they forced me to do all the physical work while they did next to nothing and I wasn't having any of that so I got fired before my first shift even ended.
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every job i've worked has been shit. (except one summer job i had as a kid at the beach, but that was mostly because everyone partied after work).

doesn't really matter what you do. you won't have a satisfying life as a salaried worker unless your salary is extremely high.

we're moving into a world of niche small businesses with global outreach - the only entities that big box and conglomerates can't compete with.
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i've worked at burger king and in a bakery
fast food jobs are a nightmare but you can learn some social skills there and make some friends
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>>1370965
female managers in fast food or retail are cunty nightmares

Ok, /biz//, I am an extroverted (I strike up conversions with everyone), honest("Does this hat look good on me?" - "No."), sometimes blunt (but I can control it most of the time), guy and I know how to handle my self at work OK(basically say nothing if I am not sure if I will offend someone). And I like arguments (not yelling type but discussion type... )

But the problem is the females. They will get offended with ANYTHING in the workplace. Or at least that is because I am not handsome or tall.
Should I just ignore them and talk to them EXCLUSIVELY...
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>>1370923
>They will get offended with ANYTHING
that's a pretty general rule
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>>1370928
One female once got offended when she forgot to order food for me (company paid for the meals that week).
I said: "It's no problem. I will eat at home anyways. I am going back to do more work." Maybe she thought I was angry but I was completely calm, my tone was calming and slightly uninterested, my gestures were slow and calming too.
She came to my office in middle of business call and kept asking me "Would you like me to order you something ? Or buy you something?"
I kept answering...
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>>1370937
Most women are freaking irrational, they function on emotions a lot more so don't even try.

Avoid trouble, just nod and smile while you let them ramble on and pretend to be listening.

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I'm about to get an 8k student loan and I only need to use 2k of it.

I want to invest 6k in proctor and gamble.

Am I a cuck?
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>>1370878
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>>1370878
Buy fucking Ethereum
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>>1370878

Why not a large cap value ETF instead of just proctor and gamble? Diversify. iShares Core High Dividend ETF maybe.

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While fiatfags await for Janet Yellen's words to determine what changes will be done to your deprecated economy, praying that interest rates will not fuck you up, Bitcoiner masterrace awaits for the inmutable, perfect algorithm to deploy the halving.

http://www.thehalvening.com/

What a time to be a pioneer. We are making history here. Butthurt nocoiners get out.
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>>1370834
El halvening's already priced in. What do you think the recent spike was?
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>>1370841
sssh don't hurt the bagholders feelings.
no bully remember?
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>>1370834
>http://www.thehalvening.com/

That website is horrific.

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Is a short amount of time better than a large one to complete a task?
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>>1370829
>complete a task

Kind of hinges on the idea of completion. I would say less time is more efficient, but I wouldn't say it is more effective.
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>>1370829
parkinsons law... mor elike... parkinsons DISEASE! HA!
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>>1370829
also warren buffet. so your question parkinsons law is invalid

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Let's say I have 60€ in my paypal

How do I turn that into bigger money?
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Invest in life insurance

Then kill yourself.
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>>1370813
for sure get out of euro, that currency will be defunct in 10 years
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>>1370814

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How can I turn this into $2000?
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I suggest you talk to your financial advisor, ask big a life insurance you can get for that money.

And then, you kill yourself.
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>>1370807
Are you fucking stupid? Can you not fucking read? Are you BRAND new to this board? I can't believe I'm even responding but.......TRUMP COIN...........right fucking now, fucking IDIOT.
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>>1370816

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I come from this thread. >>>/pol/80350544
What is ethereum?
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>>1370796
its digital currency, bitcoins annoying baby brother
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>>1370796
Tell /pol/ that it's a scam.

Also: stay in /pol/.
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Back to /pol/ my red pilled friend. This board is too advanced for you.


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