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We seem to be in relatively volatile times

USA
>Real unemployment near 10% when taking into consideration the artificial deflation of the rate via temp job surges
>Recent rise in metal prices, seeming indication of some people's fiat shortcomings
>Some big potential bubbles like Tesla and Amazon (Amazon has a 300 P/E ratio, maybe growth potential warrants it though)

Euro
>Brexit
>GBP rapid decline

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>>1364221
How did you go about that, physical or otherwise?
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>>1364231

>mfw I bought into gold in a big way at £700
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>>1364237
When do you plan to get out? A certain climate or a certain price?

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A thread dedicated to stupid childish reasons why you don't believe in Lisk.
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Kek at your life, bagholder

This was literally designed as a pump n dump

Your infographic doesn't even give any purpose for it existing.

This is more like a lazy eth clone
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>>1364185
2 lazy to research it, must b fraud if i havnt heard of concrete evidence for its purpose without even looking for it
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If lisk makes a dollar I will be stoked

When did you realize that this board is a joke and most people here are unemployed, retarded pepe and wojakposters?

When did you realize that this is a board for people to shill their scams(that guy who keeps spamming his cc fraud bullshit ripping scam to scam gullible autists in every single thread), literal pump and dumps, shitcoins, scams like hashocean and more?

When did you realize that the people here are all retards or unsuccessful and the few who are successful post here once in a while just for fun?

When did you realize this board if absolute shit...
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Tonight, actually. I'm awake and I've got my shitposting tab open just for you bb
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What is the point of this thread? Fuck off thanks
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>>1364232
>What is the point of this thread? Fuck off thanks

It's a reminder for newfags not to listen to anything posted here.

Yeah getting financial advice can sound amazing, but when you realize it's a 50% chance or more the person writing it is a neet who literally is just repeating what he read elsewhere, making things up or just shitposting for fun

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Would it be smart to take out a bank loan and put it all into bitcoin? Let's say 20k euros worth
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>>1364164
Ahahahahaha holy shit this board.....
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>>1364165
He's trolling. Not even the most desperate of NEETs is that stupid.
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$5k

you can lose that
idgaf if you work min wage you can lose that

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Is it worthy to invest my time to learn to code with basic knowledge of major languages?

Is there a slight chance it may be profitable in the future?

Or did I miss the train that passed years ago?

appreciate advice from any extent of experience
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>>1364162
>Or did I miss the train that passed years ago?

If you want to be a code monkey, then Pajeet will beat you ten out of ten times. If you want to be a programmer and make real money on it, you need to understand software development and have a mind for coding.

BUT. If you're trying to save your business some money by being able to code things yourself, then yes, it's 100% worth it to learn.
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>>1364170
This too.

If you don't know anything about programming and hire someone who you think just LOOKS good, you could run into trouble with them just being a shitty fucking programmer. You wouldn't know they're a shitty programmer unless you know a thing or two.

In this day and age anyone can go fucking take a week long class on Node.JS or some bullshit coding "bootcamp" and throw together a bootstrap website that looks presentable. There are also ways you can create software with a fucking GUI.

I use the term software lightly, but it compiles... or something... and it runs on a computer.

You don't want to hire these people.
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>>1364162
Sure it's worth it. C# will take you maybe a few weeks to a month of casual tinkering to understand and then whenever you need something specialized you can just make a desktop app for it.

Coding is a valuable life skill and once you grasp one language you'll get any other very fast.

Can't tell you about the profitability, depends on a zillion factors. When I was a kid I sold shitty script and apps on my site and made maybe $300 a week on autopilot. Made some bots for a spammer friend and...
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High school senior here. How do I into becoming a stock trader. I come from a mid class family and I feel like with enough capital I could get into the trade. Is it honestly buy and sell, or is it more complicated than that.
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>>1364147
You don't.
Unless you consider buying penny stocks on your phone being a "stock trader".
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>>1364147
don't waste your time. with the amount you can afford to invest you might as well go and get a part time job and earn in a day what you will on the stock market in weeks
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>>1364147
>"And why should I hire you for this position?"
>"Well, I spent the last 4 years trading stock, reading articles, and reading books. Heres my portfolio and its up over (Insert number here.)"
>"Wow, dat portfolio. Ur hire, lol"

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If I took out a bunch of loans and credit cards and maxxed them out but then suddenly died, would my family be responsible for the debt?
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>>1364084
shut up
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>>1364084
You obviously don't mean your kids. Do you mean your mommy and daddy?

I don't know, they probably would try and collect it from them. Fucking /biz/, Jesus Christ..
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>>1364084
Part of the "probate" process is to allocate all your assets and liabilities. This would include sending a notice to whoever you owe money to stating you're "deceased". After all your assets are liquidated, if any, lenders/banks are the first to get paid back and any money leftover, if any, would go to your family after attorney fees. Some cards have built-in insurance that relieves you of your debt if you die, so maybe read the fine print on any cards/loans you're thinking about getting.

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Possible business idea
if you have been on /pol/
You would have noticed the Chicago police scanner general and how thousands of people are listening to it for hours as they hope to hear black people die en mass(they are never disappointed)
Would it be legal to make a live stream of drones flying over Chicago(mostly the north west and south east)
Then broadcast the live video footage with live maps of Chicago and someone narrating what is occurring as he keeps a tally?
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Pretty sure you need some kind of governmental approval to have a drone flying over the city.
I don't think that you would get it.
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>>1364440
The worse areas are in the suburbs and no one really owns property in those areas not to mention if shot down they are not allowed to have guns or shoot down without a good reason(implying they can hit something more than a foot away).
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>>1364440
I could tell them it is for a documentary...which is not a lie

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I have useful skills i can use to get money but halfway through a project i give up and or start another project.
(I can draw and make 3d models etc that i can use to get money from sexual deviants and lazy people.)
I need better discipline or someone to make me do stuff. How do i achieve this?
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>>1364022
move out and have to do that shit to survive
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>>1364029
I have a part time job and school...mechatronics
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>>1364037
>mechatronics
this has what to do with moving out?

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From a long term security, quality of life, ease to get into, and monetary standpoint is CE/EE a better degree to get than Computer Science? I want a tech degree because I like computers.

My educational weakness is mathematics, only slightly though, and I am strong with science, especially physics.

I'm leaning towards CE/EE, but I might also enjoy computer science. My school I'm looking at is well known for having good programs for both.

Can I get some input from those already in the fields on what I should major in? What are the jobs like?
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Nope
Underage b& nobody over the age of 18 is stupid enough to actually follow their dreams
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>>1363978
Nope, I'm 18.

I hope you are being ironic about that last part, what you are talking about is wasting tens of thousands on a audio engineering degree because you like skrillex.

Both options I narrowed are actually viable options.
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>>1363992
You suck at math you won't survive an engineering program
CS is an over saturated field you'll eventually just give up

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>tfw you bought BGI at $5.03
>tfw it was half of your savings
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On the plus side, your savings were never going to amount to anything anyway
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When did it hit 5.03?
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>>1363952

around 1:45

Hey guys and galz of /biz/

I need some help from people in China.

Whats the deal with the bottled water and baby formula in China? Where is most of it purchased and where does it come from?
What are the distribution plans for these stores and is it mostly direct marketing? hat are the biggest retailers of these? Grocery stores?

Thanks for your time.
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>Where is most of it purchased and where does it come from?
Australia
>What are the distribution plans for these stores
People gather their families into groups to bulk buy formula all over the city, then send it back to their contacts in China to sell for a huge markup because the formula they make and sell in China is actually baby poison.
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Doesn't mainland China have any baby formula that they import and sell?
there Must be stores that can get past the strict guidelines to sell baby formula in China.
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>>1363959

>strict guidelines to sell
>China

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>finally get a job
>large company (100k+), in compensation in HR
>great pay and benefits
>literally a minority as a straight white male
>tons of hot women in office and total bro gays
>get constantly hit on

Is HR like this everywhere It's a pussy goldmine and all the Directors and managers are guys probably slaying it.
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>>1363700
Yeah man, true stories.

Coz women in HR will 'hit on you' and have sex and not hold it against you in the next sexual harassment lawsuit which they're fucking experts on.
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>>1363700

Hr lol.
HR?

Lifes to short. Learn a real skill
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>>1363790
>Learn a real skill

Like basic English, and knowing the difference between 'to' and 'too'?

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Alright, I know at least a few of you have some meme rockets. Spill it.

>inb4 tomorrow when people claim they called shit out
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$CERU
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>>1363656
who is this cum bum?
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This stock I heard about MGT

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Age:27

I would like to have a passive income of 40k

No debts at all

250k in cash
and 500k in the market
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Target is 1.5m and before age 40. Currently 26 with 100k
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>>1363669
What will you do with the 1.5 to make sure you have enough money every year?

Stocks, dividends yeild etfs, annuity, etc?

Just looking for ideas.
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>>1363930
Don't fucking bother at all with annuities.

You're pretty damn young, stick to stocks.

Also you have way to much money in cash. If I was you I would put $1000+ extra every month into the market.

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what will happen if there's infinite natural resources because of space mining?
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>>1363599
Who is the unattractive man in this picture?
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>>1363615
a man who assumes he knows things, which he does not, but likes to think he does.
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>Le space mining meme

Literally never going to happen

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>hate being neet
>dont want a job
>dont like being broke
stock market is what all fucks with money go to get money
Ameritrade or E*Trade, suretrader, scotttrade etc..
best tool for making this dream possible
im going all out guys\getting rid of my xbox 360/one - 55 inch tv get about 1000
pay of over draft and got the rest to start a dream
halp guys i really think this can work but need alot to learn alot of the tools are hard to figure out on my self \
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>>1363596
prepare to get fucked anon. You will lose your xbox one and tv for nothing.

In all honesty.

Get a job, if you want to make money on stocks you would need about 10k to play with and make safe choices to produce passive income. Not that get rich fast mentality you have at the moment, that's how you lose your 1k.

What you need is a job and start saving and start with the safest routes then move up and invest some margin of that into more volatile stocks.

First you should have that...
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>>1363596
ignore this >>1363602. just buy whatever memestocks the robinhood thread is meming and you'll be rich in no time. hard work is for cucks.
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>>1363602
>10k to play with and make safe choices to produce passive income


please explain

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Most people have been busy discussing and arguing over the whole Pajeet/Cowie situation. We need to begin focusing on creating ad campaigns to spread exposure of Trump Coins. We need to get the subreddit going again, we need to start posting more campaign ads on different forums, and we need to somehow get a video about Trump Coin on the YouTube trending list. Everyone throw their suggestions here and let's work together to get Trump Coin more exposure.
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>>1363591

Ron Paul 2012
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The infighting and developer chaos is settling down, thankfully. In less than a week we should have a fully functioning developer team.

I'd like to say that the chaos over the weekend was also somewhat necessary; the team needed to grow into a serious development and management team. I think Chris/Chicken65 just did not realize the scope of the project and that it was going to hit the top 100 so easily. He was just out of his depth as a DJ.

Now things are starting to look good and already there is a pump on the coin. It just shows that people are still very...
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>>1363591
>whole Pajeet/Cowie situation
Been out of the loop, what's this?

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The date is now July 6. It is now 9:30 AM.

What do you invest in?
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buy tesla.
buy apple.
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>>1363580
I'm thinking about a lot right now, but, if I was forced to spend all of my money right now on a stock............I'd buy Apple............maybe ABX, but, probably Apple unless I was feeling adventurous.
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AMPE

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How difficult would it be to mastermind and get away with a £1000,000 fraud?
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The amount of effort that it would take to fraud your way into a million pounds and get away with it would be the same amount of effort needed to have a shot at getting a similar amount of money legitimately, assuming that you aren't some sort of fucking criminal genius.

The three primary groups of people who steal are the rich who feel that they can do so with impunity, the mentally ill who are compelled to do so by deviant psychology, and the poor who feel that they have no other means.
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Ask Vitalik
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>>1363544
you forgot people from India, who always put the comma after the fourth digit

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IMMINENT USA RECESSION COUNTDOWN THREAD:

Get it here, lads. Let's all take ganders on when the next great recession will take place. My money's on 8 months.
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>>1363528
If Trump is elected: Jan. 2017
If Shillary is elected: Sometime in 2021
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You have threads from the day /biz/ was created saying that the next recession is any day now.


But like >>1363531 said, it fits the globalist agenda better if it happens under a Republican president.

There's zero chance of it happening while Obama is still president
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>>1363545
>There's zero chance of it happening while Obama is still president

The peak of the last one was during Obama's tenure.

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It seems like there are two kinds of people who dream of getting rich: positive and negative.

+The Positives
+Want to do a particular thing that will make them rich
+Could be anything like writing a best selling novel, being a rock star, inventing a new drug that cures a common illness, or even being an entrepreneur
+Pursue a particular goal which is ancillary to becoming rich, though the money is secondary
+Typically have an interesting, if rocky, road
+Only a tiny portion of them make it

-The Negatives
-Just want to be rich and don't care...
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Also, I'm personally the former. I have a net positive end-goal that is ancillary to becoming rich.
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>>1363497
I'm the one that wants a worry free life, and the best way to remove most worries is having a huge capital.
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>>1363630

So you're a Negative then. Maybe a better way to term it would be Hot and Cold.

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how do these niggas manage to become millionaires super fast ? is this some sort of jewish conspiracy ?
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>>1363490
The people who own the record companies are almost entirely Jewish but it's ultimately up to you to decide whether that's merely a coincidence or not.
Broke niggas are only broke because they choose to not develop any monetizible skills, instead choosing to spend money on frivolous things like crack cocaine and a twenty year-old purple Towncar.
The popular music industry starts losing huge chunks of money overnight due to piracy, so those wealthy executives fund ad-based "free" streaming services and focus on pushing CDs and merch to the only demographic with some money that still hasn't figured out how to use a computer.
Then combine that with a heaping of the internalized and highly marketable "blacks are rebels" mindset which those same companies have forced into the unaware public subconscious for over forty years now and black young millionaire hip-hop musicians are the logical conclusion.
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basically they sign away all the rights of their music to a label for a check, as well as other agreements

this, plus most artists tend to make the bulk of their money doing shows
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>>1363490
Jews pay a few dancing coons to entrance the vast majority of them and profit.

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What motivates you to make lots of money?

For me, besides having a fulfilling career, it's all about having a condo like this.
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I just want a house where I can live by myself and not have to wage slave.
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i just like collecting money

i literally don't spend any of it but i just like the feeling of collecting it
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to be able to do nice things for my family. and have enough to cover any sort of emergency that arises. and to beable to fund projects and causes i believe in , and to beable to pursue fun or enlightening opportunities that come up . and to encourage other people with no hope that with enough hardwork anyone can do "it"

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Does anyone here believe that cryptocurrency will become the world standard before we begin to see the effects of the "Singularity"?

I was thinking about this earlier and I have no idea what to even think of it, other than that it sounds fascinating
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>>1363421

That's easy, ofcourse it will. Everyone should own at least 1 Bitcoin. It is your civic duty if you care about your family, yourself, or the human race in general.
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>>1363421
I doubt there will ever be a singularity
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>>1363428
So you say it will happen BEFORE, and >>1363429 says the Singularity won't even happen at all

Why don't you think it will ever happen?

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Yo biz I got a question
If I was to transfer colleges, what would the admissions dep. look at most when considering whether to let me in or not.
Sats?
Hs/college grades?
Sorry if this was a dumb question, couldn't find anything on Google
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They judge you purely on cock size. If you're under 11 inches and fat they won't accept your transfer. Reason being is that most colleges are now heavily democrat and CP and feminist based beliefs. So if you're short, small dicked, or even remotely threatening then you will be declined by the head fem.
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college gpa mostly i believe, but all depends
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The more recent, the more relevant. So most important are your current uni grades.

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THE ETH SHILLS HAVE FINALLY BEEN PROVEN WRONG

SHORT IT NOW OR FOREVER REGRET IT

AN IRRECOVERABLE COLLAPSE IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER
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eth will go up during the next collapse
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>>1363317
This is still the aftermath of the hack.

We'll see ETH push around $7 and then it'll turn around later this year.
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I WARNED YOU

NON-SHORTERS WILL WALLOW IN REGRET

THIS IS YOUR RECKONING, YOU ANTI-PROFIT PIECES OF SHIT

Ok /biz/nessmen, here's the situ'.

ME:
F&B expert in every sense of the word. Literally have written books on the subject.
Very connected in the Las Vegas beverage/cocktail/F&B industry
Last three years been working as a #2 in a small business that grew from just the two of us to 10~ people, grew a ton in products, ton in equity (bought a warehouse in that time)

CONCEPT:
Opening a bar in Downtown Las Vegas, in an area that, by the time we open, will be surrounded by high-rise condos and more hipstery-crafty shit. Current hipstery...
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[had to split into two posts]

I've got a consultant for the drink program that will also bring alot of cred to us, I've got a great real estate broker bringing down the price of the property (currently at $1.9mil but we think we can get it to $1.2 or so), I've got a really good contractor drawing up costs, I've got an accountant incorporating us and a lawyer working on permitting/licensing/etc.

I'm only running into ONE OBSTACLE.

HOW DOES ONE FIND AN INVESTOR? I only know a few rich people, but I don't think they are the investing...
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>how do I open a hipster bar for hipster scum

This isn't cryptocurrency REEEEEERERREEEE
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Cmon guys. Bump.

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I'm starting a business promotion Instagram. Follow me my fellow 4chaners @adeptmotivate
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S H O T G U N
inmouth
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>>1363227
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What a faggot.

How can I exploit these to get free stuff?
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>>1363221
>3 dollars
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Fuck you - niggers steal. Get a role model you cock drain.
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>>1363221
These reloadable prepaid cards often require you to put in your SSN, so you can't really do anything illegal without receiving some sort of criminal penalty.


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