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why are all the gold ETFs red?!?!
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whos holding amrs thru er?
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>>1597905

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My university management skills course assigned our class an assignment that requires a group of class mates to start a business with $5. This business has one week to operate and generate profit while also having to add one aspect of sustainability to your business- be it economical, environmental and/or social. My group and I have spent some hours brainstorming on some ideas but can't think of one that can achieve sustainability and profit at such a low cost while taking into consideration any legal reifications from external factors such as the township, school, etc....
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>>1598085
Dont think about "what business can I start with $5." Think about "what business can i start with no initial investment."
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>>1598094
This is a very good point, I have brought this point up before. Costless usually will mean a service-type of business given the limited time. However we cannot find a good service type business that has no startup complications
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>>1598128
post ad on craiglistlist offering designs service for banner/logo design for $45. Outsource design to fiverr for $5. Repeat.

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Guys I fell for the Etsy meme. How fucked am I and my portfolio?
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>>1597970
117 shares probably won't kill you.
For a minute I thought you were the guy who bought a block before earnings yesterday.
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>>1597970
inb4 lurk moar

Explain that pic to a b/tard
has the value dropped below the cost that you paid?
did you pay $1515.15 (117xprice) and now have $1319.01?
or
do you have 117 stocks to the value of 1319 and those are the now stats and not showing what you paid?

I clearly know fuck all but this pic is interesting to me
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>>1599469
point by point: OP bought 117 shares of ETSY (Etsy, Inc.) for $12.95 each (plus whatever transaction fees his broker demands). Now 1 share of ETSY notes at $11.53 which means his position is worth $1349.01. So far he's made total loss of $166.14, which breaks down to a loss of $1.42 per share or -10.97% in relative terms.

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Holy fuck bros I need your help. I've just been asked to do a phone interview. Holy shit what do I say?
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>>1597820
Just answer their questions and talk about relevant experience/skills. It's a lot easier than face-to-face interviews. So if you're normally fine at those you'll do fine with then phone interview.
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>>1597820
Helpful tips:

>Take a shower to wake yourself up
>Meditate for 10-15 to clear your head
>read 10-15 to boost the brain
>Recite your favorite song to practice speaking
>Have your questions (relate them to the company) ready when they ask for them
>Put on a suit, you'll feel more confident
>Stand...
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>>1597838
He's asking me when a good time for me to take the interview is. What do I say? How do I say it? I'm emailing btw

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How will Trump's win affect the market? Will the Dollar fall? Buy Gold? What companies will profit, who will fall?

What 's the prospectus for profiting from one of the greatest Presidential debates in history ?
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Well bitcoin will rise for sure, and trumpcoin maybe
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>>1597806
>trumpcoin
Are you kidding? When Trump is president, after a few months he will be the new normal.

Who is going to buy "NormalCoin"? It was a pump and dump from the start. The selloff will look like niagara falls.
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>>1597813
Thx for correcting the record

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>In an almost hour long interview, Kathryn Haun, Assistant Attorney for the U.S. Department of Justice in San Francisco and lecturer on digital currencies at Stanford Law School, who prosecuted her own colleagues, Shaun Bridges, a former Secret Services agent and Carl Mark Force, a DEA agent, for public corruption in an investigation arising from Silk Road, the infamous drug bazaar shut down in 2013, stated that the reason United States government did not shut down bitcoin is because they “recognize you can’t shut down bitcoin.”

>“There is simply no way” – Haun said, “with these technologies once the genie is out of the bottle you can’t put it back in…but even if we could hold the developers of these technologies accountable,” the federal prosecutor continued, that would be “counter to the legal system.”

Government BTFO. Bitcoin can not be stopped. Nocoiners will cry lava soon.
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more like
>"We seized 170,000 bitcoins worth roughly 90 million USD. There is simply no way we were going to let this kind of money going to waste"

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for the government tbqh. Especially considering that paying off hackers for 0days and secretly funding terrorist groups has become a growing interest of the US Government in the last years. Just like TOR - the US government is probably one of the bigger proponents of BTC. If you ever use BTC for anything useful (like turning them into real money or...
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>>1597578
>muh real money meme
There's people buying and selling lambos directly in Bitcoin while you stay poor.

>get paid in BTC
>buy in BTC

The circle is closed. Government hates this, since they will never know. Once they remove cash, more and more people will work for BTC as the only viable replacement. Anyone with a brain can tumble their coins for added privacy. Schnorr signatures, confidential transactions,...
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>>1597656
>There's people buying and selling lambos directly in Bitcoin while you stay poor.

I bought my Yacht and house in LA on Bitcoins bitch.

Don' fucking tell me about my bitcon millions.

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TIMBERRRRR!!!!!!!!
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previous analysis
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Below $6.87 it should be a short ride down to $6.37. Then watch the waterfall of shares being sold crush it down to $5.21.
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how can you be sure it will continue to follow the trend

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I need advice, I've responded to well over 600 applications and I've only gotten a handful of interviews. I'm getting desperate, I don't want to go back to my shit tier country.

I guess I'm being dismissed by many jobs by virtue that I would need visa sponsorship. That's outside of my control, what could I do to improve my CV? Also, any finance job application tips?
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I'm applying to entry to mid senior jobs, I'm not overreaching here.
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>>1597546
>in which he organised
>he runs in investing blog

Who the fuck are you talking about?

The letter sizing is also weird.
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>>1598033
Oh crap! thanks for pointing out the third person thing. I used to have various CVs so this is sort of the Frankenstein hodgepodge of many, so that sorta slipped through the cracks.

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>gamble free bitcoins
>profit
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>>1597309
how?
where do you get them for free?
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>>1597530
it is to promote bitcoins, you have to promise not to sell them for dollars, fiat currency is evil
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>>1597309
>>1597548

>free bitcoins
Where from?

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I want to be a successful entrepreneur. It's not about the money, even though I wish to make many millions. I just really feel that being an entrepreneur will bring me peace and happiness. I also want to do it for the freedom. That's the thing I value the most. I dream about owning stores, seeing happy customers coming and going and making a real difference. That's what I want.
Any help /biz/bros? I am looking for low starting capital bizness ideas (inb4 kneepads)
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another bump
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You could try mowing lawns in your town or investigate your town and try to look for problems you could fix in your city.
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>>1596438
>inb4 he starts shooting thugs

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I will never understand billionaires - you have enough money to influence the world.

You could at least influence the entertainment industry. Why the hell would you waste it on your personal private life? Are they that anti-social that they enjoy seeing nothing good on TV, no good music, disgusting sjw tumblrinas all over the place and a generation of idiots?
All that power and everyone thinks money is only for materialistic gains. What happened human imagination.

Insane shut-ins. This is why civilians don't deserve money.
If I could convince at least...
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>>1595881
Billionaires don't usually blow time watching TV, or care whats on it.
They like privacy because most people think a billionaire will give them cash if they ask loud enough.
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>If I could convince at least three billionaires to my ideology then by 2020 we would already be ushering in a paradise.

delusional mong
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i just happen to know a billionaire who's very progressive and funding all the ideology movements around Europe

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I am not an American I know very little about it. Apparently it is a fucking disaster economically to subsidie health care in the American system. That it will increase US debt by trillions of dollars and drive private companies out of business (one quote I heard from Bill "good goy" whittle was it is impossible to compete against a health provider that can print its own money)

>Mind explaining how you think its going to work ?
>is it a success ?
>Should you abolish it ?

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Individuals are now mandated to purchase health insurance from private health care insurance companies if they already don't have insurance provided to them through their job, Medicare, military, school, or whatever.
This is called the individual mandate.

This has caused the price of healthcare insurance premiums (the money you pay to the private healthcare insurance companies) to go up since the demand suddenly increased due to the individual mandate, but the supply remained more or less the same.

More importantly, Obamacare refuses to address the elephant...
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>>1595684
You're leaving out most of the benefits. Such as:
* elimination of lifetime caps
* no more denials for pre-existing conditions
* extended maternal and natal coverages
* children can stay on parent's policy for longer

Also, the widely reported increases in policies are limited to the "exchange" which is a website you can go to get insurance if you can't get it yourself or don't get it through your employer. This only affects a small percentage of people. Most people in...
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>>1595695
>strawman
You're arguing in favor of the law based on the idea that the only other option is the Republican's idea to repeal the whole thing. That's not the case, but it does allow you to claim that "the good parts of the law are better than nothing".
No shit, but that's not what the arguments against it were in the first place. Namely, it was argued that the cost was exorbitant, and a better solution could be found. The Obama administration's response...
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How do I help a friend with his finances?
>we walk to dollar store
>I pay for my candy
>he goes to pay
>card rejected.... at the fucking dollar store
I've offered to help him and his fiancé make a proper budget. He refuses....
I've even tried the Dave Ramsey approach. He uses book as a paper weight.
I don't know what to do at this point. He has a credit score of 55... Halp
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Drop him. It's not your business what he does with his finances. Stop counting other people's money.

Unless your friend is you ;)
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>>1595502
I just hate the idea that me, as an accounting student, let this happen to him.
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>>1595544
The sooner you learn you're not responsible for other people, the better. Let them make their mistakes. If you try to interject more they'll just resent you for it. You're not his daddy.

My advice is you should ghost him. There's a saying. You're the average of your 5 closest friends. Losers like that are a dime a dozen and have no value.

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>be in tech, trying to move to finance
>fuck all info on how to do it, everything seems to be on how to escape finance to move to tech

What the fuck

I don't get it, there's absolutely no money in tech, unless you're a Data Scientist, very good developer or a founder whose startup got bought or IPO'd.

Why the fuck is is such a one-way street from finance to tech?

If I never again have to work in a open-plan memeshop where everyone wears t-shirts and accepts free meals...
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>>1594119
>finance
enjoying wanting to kys daily
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>>1594122
Already have that

Difference there is that I'd be getting paid a lot more for it
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>>1594127
For amount of hours you'll be putting into it, the average hourly wage doesn't seem too impressive. Not to mention the opportunity cost of sacrificing a lot of free time for a career in that industry.

You won't make it unless you have an autistic passion for it.

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> mfw when I made pic in one day.

Seriously, do some fucking affiliate marketing if you actually plan to make decent money online.
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>>1593686
I can offer you another IT related affiliate program. What's your blog about?
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>>1593732

Im the guy from >>1574525
Im not doing blogging.
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>>1593686

how? i thought affiliate marketing was a sailed ship

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>no wavers didn't buy the dip
wew lads
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>>1590070
"waving bye bye" to some bagholders in this latest dip. See you later suckers.

Not selling a single wave until it hits $3 or more here.
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will crack 1$ this year
this is ethereum all over again
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Buy orders back up to 400BTC !

So glad i didnt sell

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Has anyone hear actually tried a scam like this without getting caught?
Hard to see how it wouldn't catch up with the person eventually.

http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/meet-the-19-year-old-kiwi-that-makes-5000-a-week-from-the-deep-web

Tl;DR
Kid buys credit card off the deepweb, turns them into gift cards to drop ship shit from legitmate eStore.

Or something along those lines, he's vague with the exact how-to for obvious reasons.

I wouldn't want to do it myself, curious about the fact he hasn't been caught.
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>>1565811
For about a year and a half now I've been thinking about buying cards off of the deepweb. I put the idea on the back burner because I started trading. This article has re-sparked my interests. I truly believe that the only way to break through, is to break the law. If anyone here has any experience it would be cool if you shared. There used to be daily threads on /biz/ about shit like this, but nowadays everyone is to pussy or to buisy gambling on penny stocks to care or discuss.
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>>1565811
I still think the best scams was the coupons that 4chins use to have all over here right before the holidays.
Worked like magic against some stressed out temp working a register with limited training.
4 cases of Mountain dew for $5.
some were even more insane and people got away with it.
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Just keep yourself low and you will be fine

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Hi All,

Do you think that it's possible to automate value investing? Like since all the metrics are available to us and calculations and such, can't one just create a program that determines the most attractive stocks?

Perhaps there is some subjectivity required, but as far as i can see it's possible, unless i'm missing something key
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Congrats! You invented something that's existed for at least 40 years: the value index fund.

Holdings are selected according to objective criteria. There is subjectivity in establishing the benchmark, but its programmatic after that.
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>>1598716
I don't think so, aren't index funds supposed to track the benchmark? That would suggest that composition of the fund isn't focused on outperforming, rather just tracking to the performance of another security.

The question I'm wondering is, can the selection process to create a portfolio that outperforms the market (when considering risk criteria) be automated.

Though, I suppose it is given your confidently sardonic response.
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>>1598725
>isn't focused on outperforming
Outperforming what? There isn't one benchmark in the world, just as there isn't one index.

If you don't even understand the question, how do you expect to understand the answer?

Apparently we have this mandatory company event where each person has to perform something, and if you have no skills, they'll assign you something like dancing or acting, teach you what to do and you do it. But wtf isn't this employee harassment??
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>>1598685
In the US your employer usually has to pay you to attend mandatory events, and the things they require you to do generally have to be part of your written job description.

I suspect you're not in the US though.
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Corporate culture is such fucking cancer

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What does /biz/ think? Finance or accounting really? I can't decide.
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>>1598546
If you're introvert accounting.
Extro finance
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>>1598680
This. I did finance as non-autist introvert and hated 99% of the jobs. Most good jobs require licensing and/or more education so buckle up. I changed fields and am gonna join the navy.
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>>1598687
What finance jobs did you try and what didn't you like about them? Why did you choose the navy over the airforce or army?

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Should men trim their eyebrows? Like maybe my parents aren't with this stuff or never had a sister so idk but.. Like for girls business (business more importantly) do people notice this .. Is the clean cut thing to do? For a young man that wants to be attractive and presentable
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>>1598481
Unless it's a unibrows, you can always notice you're kind gay.
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>>1598481
>Asking for advice on appearance
>Not posting a pic of self
>Posting on /biz/
Wtf u doing m80
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>>1598481
Of course you should trim your fucking eyebrows....

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Anyone here have experience with joint development agreements? TLDR: help me get the most out of a potential partnership between my firm and a group of inexperienced college age 'entrepreneurs'. Context below.

I represent a firm that has obtained proper licensing to do business in a highly lucrative industry (think healthcare device technology). I met these two 19 year old entrepreneurs at an industry roundtable in my city.

These kids are absolutely brilliant - dropped out of uni at 18. They apparently had gone to CC while in high school and took 12 AP classes each in HS on top of their CC classes, so they went to college together at 17 with enough credits to be juniors. No joke. I talked to them, and managed to get them in my office this week.

Anyways, these kids developed an amazing piece of technology and have a functional prototype. I can't talk too much about it because I'm bound by an NDA, but if it goes to market in a smart way, it'll shake up a whole lot of existing structures in our industry. They filed a provisional patent, and I have a letter from our patent attorney saying that all the claims check out for filing a utility.

However, these guys have NO IDEA what they're doing in business. The CEO showed up to an important industry association meeting wearing fucking sweatpants and a surplus Vietnam field jacket. Their funding consists of personal loans from friends and family totaling up to less than 50k. I have NO IDEA how they managed to make a sophisticated piece of tech on that kind of budget. Not only that, but they've also got other projects in R&D that they told me about which are fucking brilliant.

I told my bosses about them, and they want me to bring them in with some sort of formal partnership agreement, so we can milk them for ideas, but I already know they're going to be typical entrepreneurs about the whole "working for someone else" thing. My bosses want me to write a draft agreement. What stipulations should I put in?

Thanks guys.
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>>1598251
buy them out or walk away faggot
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>>1598316
I can't really communicate accurately how much money our firm would make with some sort of exclusivity on the sale/development of their device.

Walking away isn't an option, and these kids won't agree to selling out.
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>>1598251
I do. If you want that kind of contract written it will cost you.

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Dumb question, but are bankers/brokers good at math?
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>>1598236

Arithmetically yes, but nobody needs to do any proofs/derivations etc but the boffins
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A famous Hedge Fund Manager said 5th grade level math is all you need to evaluate stock performance.

Banking is a glorified sales position. You are creating models and reports to try to get people to buy something. If you aren't outgoing and full of charisma, you won't be an Investment Banker no matter how good you are at predicting the future. Get into buy side or something else if you think it's all math and science and not being a glorified cars salesman.
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Not if you compare to the physics guys

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I am doing a case study report for a class of mine, and I am having trouble figuring something out. Here is a summary:

A small company in Illinois has been bought out by a multi-national company headquartered in Great Britain. Before the buy-out, profits were robust, along with orders on the books, production levels and customer satisfaction. New employees have been hired at lower rates, replacing long time employees, who have been let go with little notice and small severance compensation. Positions are eliminated and their responsibilities have be consolidated into...
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>>1598217
lol get fucked this happened to the assholes that bought out my relative's business. they assumed they knew how to make it profitable and they didn't so now they're floundering and it's really shitty for the employees but they still paid the buyout which was like millions of dollars lmao
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>>1598242
Yeah, it's sad when the employees take a hit like that, when they are essentially what makes a company run properly. Do you know what kind of issues are hurting the profitability?
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>>1598217
that new equipment costs money.

also those green employees are probably screwing things up. Sometimes experience is worth the price.

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I work and an office and friday next week i have been invited to a appraisal with my boss. What should i tell him to make him impressed? Any general tips? What do he want me to tell him? All answers are highly appreciated! :)
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>>1598185
Boss here.
I'm usually impressed with honesty.

I might fire you for it, but I'll be impressed.
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>>1598238
How will you know if i tell you the truth or not? What if i say i love my job and are super motivated but actually fkn hate it.

Dont reply "I can see it on your eyes and mouth".
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>>1598247
>Dont reply "I can see it on your eyes and mouth".
ok, I won't.

but the truth is you don't get to be the boss without a strong bullshit detector. Also your words over time will need to match reality and what others report. If you lie a lot people will notice.

honest people don't usually pause to think before speaking. That's the main way I know. If you're comfortable with your truth you'll speak it without having to think about it.

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What to do?
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>>1598062
How much was your salary monthy?
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Be happy you're no longer working two 35k jobs to help noseberg buy another yacht
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>>1598065
61k/year

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Anton Kreil and his "institute of trading and portfolio management". Sells his courses for $2999. Is it just another scam or a real deal?
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It's a scam you fucking faggot
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>>1597998
>Is it just another scam or a real deal?
did you see his courses, mostly people with money going on trips to bahamas, singapoore and new york together with him, where he teaches them shit you can learn from investopedia. however he explains it.
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it's not a scam, but it's overpriced imo.

if you start buying all the perks (trips, mentor programs, etc.), that's when it moves into scam territory, but that's just playing on guys' dreams of the high life.

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if time is money, we should budget time.

I'm sure some of you already do this, so share what you've done.

I'm currently editing my chart for the day as I eat lunch.
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try r9k
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>>1597881
I'm not asking you to share your chart, but to give pointers or discuss where time should be budgeted

for example, I've been removing excess computer time, and only browse when I'm multitasking on things that don't require focus, like eating.
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>>1597883
most of them just spend their time there, moping
I doubt if any of them do this.

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Been browsing 4chan for years, but never /biz/, and am coming into some money soon from inheritance (£115,000) and have literally no idea what to do with it. I'm thinking of investing in the stock market, maybe property, maybe something else. I'm after any general advice, tips, good investment ideas, anything that can help really, as like I said before, I have no idea what to do with it and am hoping you guys here at /biz/ can point me in the right direction!
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I'm looking at more low-mid risk, I don't want to lose anything ideally. And don't mind smaller returns.
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You could get your first buy to let. 50k down
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sensible index funds

How do I stop feeling guilty about not working non stop? Apart from things all humans do plus going to the gym, I feel guilty about any of my habits. And I have no goals.

I want to read books but I feel guilty about reading a set number of pages a day. I am worried about being called a pleb for not reading ten trillion boring Western canon novels. I feel like an ADD pleb for rarely reading more than 60 pages at a time. I hate that I'm more likely to put a book down at the end of a chapter.

Similarly for working. I know I could always be working to become better...
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>>1597536
1 is infinitely more than 0. Just do SOMETHING to better yourself. Slowly you'll be able to add more pressure to yourself.
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>>1597536
you can try r9k
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>>1597536
>And the funny thing is that I'm a Stirnerite.

How are you still so spooked then?


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