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What is required reading for someone who wants to become financially literate?
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Financially literate at what level?

It's a broad range between making a household budget or calculating compound interest on your savings account and figuring out the true value of a coco-bond given financial reports or predicting the futures market.

Most people can't even handle the former...
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>>1660693
I'm fuckin tired and about to go to bed, but I'll get you a longer list in the AM. You can start with something basic, like Rich Dad Poor Dad. There's some storytelling but it's a very good piece on passive income and real estate. Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill is godlike. Also, The Richest Man in Babylon by Og Mandino. These are just a few off the top of my head.

TL;DR
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill
The Richest Man in Babylon by Og...
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>>1660699
Rich Dad is garbage designed to sell seminars.

Richest Man in Babylon is legitimately important.

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Has anyone tried these P2P loaning sites?

Lending Loop just recently came to Canada and I'm interested to try, but I want to see if anybody here has had god/bad experiences with this or the other sites.
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I did and it works well for me, but you should learn a bit about fine tuning these things.
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Most people don't diversify enough and get mediocre results.
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>>1660730
By fine tuning what do you mean?
>>1661327
I was thinking of just putting money into as much as possible, barring the shit that will obviously fail, and hoping that enough of my investments pay off.

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Who has well off middle class / rich parents but only you turned out to be the failure in the family?

>parents net worth 600k including house and 1 let out flat
>both are high ranking senior managers
>be me
>college drop out
>NEET for 3 years
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>>1660661
>have kids to carry on your legacy they said
>they'll inherit your drive and intelligence they said
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>>1660661
try r9k
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its vice versa for me.

>be me
> be 7 years old
>come from wealthy family
>parents have genius idea
>parents have glorious idea
>"duh lets found a company"
>"k"
>parents borrow money where they can
>parents never had expirience in leading a business or a degree

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You guys always talk about gaming the system and making money work for you instead of the other way around, playing the stock market etc etc. But how many of you are actually successful doing those things? Chances are if you're on 4chan then you're still at the bottom of that ladder and the odds of you ever going any further than that are very slim. It's risky business and I bet it mentally degrades you with the stress. I know some of you have been for for years and years and your life situation is largely the same as it was before.

NEETs on the other hand...
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OP, the internet has changed so much that NEETS can earn money without going outside.. Take a look around you.. RH and Shitcoin shill threads galore every month just like clockwork. Most are just perpetrated by NEETs with too much spare time, wanting to make a quick buck.

Im a NEET and have $50,000 in my war chest ready to make a killing in the markets..Im patient, just waiting for the right time to enter a hype / pump

Buy high, sell low
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>>1660639
How the fuck do i become a NEET in Canada, do any anons know?
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>>1660639
>forcing society to work for them
Sure thing buddy, if you think those $500/mo means society is working for you. Don't want to ruin the only delusion that prevents you from killing yourself.

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>Man Has 1,497 Credit Cards
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/WaterCooler/story?id=411883

What prevents me from opening >50 credit cards, maxing them, and filing for bankruptcy?
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That's fine if you can do it, have no assets that can be seized, and know what you're gonna do with your life while you wait for the 5 years (dunno what it's like in the US) or so before you can earn big money again
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>>1660468
There are a few rules with Bankruptcy. You have to be a little bit careful not to violate on of the rules or they will deny your bankruptcy.

Your plan will work if you do it slowly. You have to show that you took the loans in good faith - with the clear intention of paying back the debt.
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I guess a real question is if there is a line where you suddenly in trouble for fraud. I assume their is a line, but where is it? Our fucking president used bankruptcy as a key strategy, so it's obvious you can get away with a lot of bullshit if you know the rules.

I'm a law student at a top 14 Law School, with a job lined up post schooling with no debt.

I wanted to hear more about the real estate meme, is it really impossible to start generating a bit of income off of rental properties? Once I have my career started, I'll be making around $50k starting for my first two years, and it will be rising from there.

Should be enough to buy a property or two with loans every few years, especially once my income jumps up into 6 figure range about 5 years into work. Why wouldn't I be able to buy, say, a duplex and...
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You should focus on your career and ignore real estate forever.

Seriously, what the fuck is it about real estate that attracts attorneys? Aspergers and real estate are like peas and carrots.
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>>1660381
> Why wouldn't I be able to buy, say, a duplex and lease it out by the month, and use any gains from it to cover upkeep, while also reinvesting it in more real estate?

You're in a top Law School and you can't figure out the answer to this question yourself?
Hmm...seems fishy.
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>>1660387
It's attractive because it's the closest non-autismo way to generate side income when you have a decent salary. Parents used to rent out properties when my dad was running his business a couple of decades ago and it was profitable enough for him that he had a nice padding to his bank account from it.

What would you suggest I do then as a sort of side job that isn't handing my money to an investment firm?

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>have made 50k this year
>only actually have got 35k of it
>22 and single

Holy fuck is this real life
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Git good [at trading crypto coons] you fucking poosy

Lol
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>>1660312
>22 almost 23
>shitty part-time job
>still in school for another year beacuse i was a massive fuck up and lazy pos years earlier

it could always be worse
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>>1660312
what country do you live in?

if U.S., i'mma be completely honest with you OP, you're doing better than most people your age.

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I'm contemplating purchasing ridiculously cheap property/land in Eastern Europe.

No intention of ever setting foot there, but I think it might be a good investment.

Anyone ever done this?
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>>1660116
You need to be more specific and consider that many eastern european countries are literally dying because all the young people are moving to the western european countries. You need a countries that is developing especially agriculturally and its hard for me to think of one.
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As long as it cash flows, it can't be all bad meng
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I wonder if we can con rich Chinese people into buying up property in Eastern Europe

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What are those fancy finance jobs really like?
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also interested

i'm an entry level accountant (just started working for citibank) and wondering how i can progress higher
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>>1660102
bump
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>>1660102
Literally work from 7 to 8 or 9. Go out, do blow, fuck a slutty bitch or your gold digging gf whatever, knock out, wake up on Sunday to go to work again. This time they let you out at 6!

I've fucked it boys. What should I do?

>In final year of a worthless creative arts bachelors degree
>Want to move and work in New York
>Not qualified for any jobs to get a visa sponsorship
>Is there anything I can do?

MFW, my degree is in fucking 'film'. Yup, I'm going to graduate with a Film (BA). I'm saving up to visit NYC for a few months after I graduate, I want to find a way to stay. What are my chances?
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Greencard marriage?
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>>1660115
I want to gain money not lose it.
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You have to go back Poojet

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My electricity is basically free and my PC is on all the time anyway so how can I make something even as low as $10 a month idling my PC 24 hours every day?
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>>1659992
Bot some account creation site and sell the accounts.
Bot a game and sell the in-game currency.
Mine a crypto.
Or be a real pro and bot stock trading.
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>willing to do shit for $10/month
I'm glad I don't know this feel
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>>1660002
>idling
>do shit
are you mentally retarded ?

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>check 1 year stock account performance
>-43.8%
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What are you invested in, Theranos?
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>>1659646
ITT tech
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>>1659646
/rgt/ memes

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What would you guys do if you were going to be evicted Wednesday of next week, you have no I.D., no social security card, no birth certificate, no money, and nothing you own of value to sell? I'm at the end of my rope so I'd figure I'd learn something from you guys before I die entirely.

Pic unrelated
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why don't you have said things? are you a lazy piece of shit by any means?
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>>1659535

hitchhike to the nearest city and sell my boipucci
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>>1659535
you have to go back

Spaniard here.

I just inherit 150.000€.

My family&friends told me I must buy a house but I think that I must take advantage of the situation and try to earn more money.

I don't wish to be millionaire but a new-rich, I want to be able to do anything I want, with no 8-hour jobs and with a modest live.

I have some ideas like; rent a broker, be my own broker, buy/build an online bussines, .... What do you think /biz/?
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>>1659494
You're a fool if you think that is enough money to achieve what you want.

Keep persuing an education or trade. You have enough money to give yourself a start to an early retirement. That's your safest bet. Let it grow.
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>>1659504
Me again.

If later on down the line you want to start a business you will have the knowledge and skills to succeed. That money isn't going anywhere so no need to be rash.
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>>1659494

But a small apartment for 100k you will never need to worry about rent again. invest the rest.

Redpill me on gold /biz/
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>>1659393
It's a commodity. Just like everything else.
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>>1659393
Bitcoin for tech illiterate boomers.

Also worse.
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If used for electronics or parts, it's quite beneficial because of its properties. However, it's mostly used as an ornament so it's absolutely useless aside from showing other people you can afford to pay for colored metal.

If we're talking about investing, it's extremely inefficient. Pointless, really. If we're talking about keeping it as currency or something, then it's probably beneficial. It's certainly more powerful than something like paper money because it's a real thing that is limited on the planet. Paper money is...
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Anyone trade on the futures mkts here. I lurk on /Pol/ and ended up here. Those guys win elections and call in airstrikes vs ISIS. I was thinking why isn't biz running shit?

Anyone in the Machine learning /QUANT side?

I am part of a machine learning startup. Algos give us daily price targets for products. We trade to our price target.
Here are tomorrow's targets

S&P 2251 esz6
NASDAQ 4822 NQZ6

GAS NGF7 3.74

I bought 3.605 3 units
Sold NASDAQ 4852 1 unit
Bought ES 2239 1x

Equities are spread, they moved lockstep...
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I want access to historical futures data for large swaths of the markets without having to use NinjaTrader or paying $1500/mo reeeeee
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you have to go back
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>>1658590
ya i did a machine learning credit rating project at school. I'm just starting in datascience though this year. I dont really know what the fuck im doing though lol

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I'm currently first year police officer and enrolled in the army reserves.

In the police service I work for, officers make $104k after 5 years of service. If I attempt to go for a promotion (Sergeant), they start around $110k. Hypothetically going up the rank scale will give you a bigger paycheck. But at the same time, the more you make, the more taxed you get. Plus, the higher you go in the police force the more admin/politics you get into.

Essentially what I'm saying is, I'll only be making $100k from policing (not interested in going past Sergeant)...
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>>1656672
>4chan user becoming police officer
Why do I feel like that is a terrible idea
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>>1656675
Maybe for some, not to everyone though. I'm a simple guy and it's a laid back job with lots of opportunities and you make a decent-good earning.
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ACAB

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who here /columbus/?

how do I make 200k here
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>>1656217
work at nationwide u retard
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>>1656255
how do i break into nationwide

IT or accounting or finance or insurance

I'm doing an ECE degree
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>>1656217
Looking to maybe move there.

How are the people?

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If I don't get a 5,000 dollar profit off my online business selling coffee packs. I am being put out of my home. I can't afford the rent.

I need money at the fastest way imaginable legally. Please fucking help me
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Sell like crazy you madman. You're already in a defeated mindset. Take a moment to breathe and then come up with a real plan that isn't begging online to thai basket weavers
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>>1654894

send me a link? I order stuff for our office and might be able to help you out
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How about giving 500 blowjobs at $10 a pop? This would mean sucking around 72 dicks per day (10 more if you want a day off). That's just over 4 loads in your mouth per hour assuming you want 8 hours of good sleep.

So here's the game plan: figure if you get a solid set of knee pads, you can probably suck down around 5 cum shots per hour even if you're not good at it. At that rate, you're netting an extra $8 per day of work. At the end of that first week, you take your extra money and reinvest into your company; buy some lipstick, maybe some blush or...
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There's all of these internet gurus that claim you can make a decent mostly passive income on the internet.

All of their claims seem suspect to me. Mainly because they site themselves as evidence of how possible it is.

But since all of their income streams seen to center around internet traffic and niche interests it seems like large part of their success has to be luck, or "going viral" and getting a bunch of free exposure.

kind of like as if OkGo told you could have a successful band of you make a you tube channel.

Am I to cynical...
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I've got a good amount of passive income, all of it comes from professionally managed real estate.

I'm not going to pretend to know the business of internet marketing, but I'm a programmer so I know something about software and the internet in general.

I think you're right to be sceptical. Internet based things tend to stop working without maintenance because of changes to services, data feeds, and available content. So I can't imagine an internet income stream being reliable year over year without babysitting.
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Populist business literature is basically just a fancy version of motivational seminars, lots of fluff and no substance, stay away from it.
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>Or what do legitimate passive income streams actually look like?
they don't exist. *someone* has to put in real work.

if you make money on the financial markets you need to keep track of your investments, watch the markets and react quickly.
if you receive royalties or ad revenue it's just the long-tail of your hard work from the past.
if you rent out you need to manage the building and your tenants.
even if you're just an owner of a business you need to care for it, find the right management, check their books,...
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Which countries are in a recession right now?

I want to find country ETFs on sale.
Right now all I have in mind are Brazil and Russia.
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>>1661870
Buying * just because it's cheap is not a very good idea.
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>>1661896
I'm going to do proper research once I get suggestions.
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>brazil

Might as well just buy bananas

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I was wondering what the best long/short position you can acquire to take advantage of the coming collapse of the college meme?
Fyi i went to princeton and the only thing i learned is that i had a 140 iq before college, i had a 140 iq after college, and college is basically like a version of wikipedia whete you pay 10 dollars for every sentence you read. Its a joke. Its a scam. Its a meme. General intelligence is 80 percent genetic, 20 percent studying math from age 10-16. Thats it.
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>>1661734

Are there any major public firms that make textbook? Maybe short their stock... with the internet it's just a matter of time now before there is a full revolt against spending $1000+ a semester on fucking textbooks. My capstone class's textbook was almost $500 alone. Such a scam, man.
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>>1661734
I agree it was a joke. Thankfully my pops paid for everything, so I'm not in any debt. But i will say that college was a good place to network and make acquaintances. But overall I'd recommend it if you really know what you want to do. Like I'm talking dead set on something. Like criminal justice or medicine.
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>>1661734
You clearly didn't go to college if you think it will raise your iq. You don't go to college to before more intelligent. You are clearly a retard.

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Hi not sure if this is the correct board but i'm looking for advice with a change my employer made recently.

The company previously had a monthly pay system in place where we would get paid for a month of work on the 7th of each month, this covered the first to the last day of the month and allowed one week for processing, the change they have made now allows them to pay us on every second friday however this doesn't cover a 2 full weeks of work it instead covers the last 2 days of 1 week a full week and then a 5 day period, this coupled with our regulated 2...
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what?

payday is every other week and it covers a period of 2+7+5=14 days. that aligns, so what are you talking about? maybe make an example?
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Yeah, though we work 5 days a week and our 2 days off can vary, so if we work the 5 days before the first 2 and our 2 days off fall within the last 5 days we have 6 days off during a pay fortnight, while we still get paid for the amount we work in the period it leaves us with a shorter pay packet in some months and admittedly a larger in others
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>>1661745
>we still get paid for the amount we work
>shorter pay packet in some months and admittedly a larger in others
what you need to do is stop living paycheck to paycheck. keep a month's worth of living expenses in your checking account and this will no longer be a problem for you.

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Why can't the blockchain be used to make a private internet (like tor)?
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The point of blockchain is to decentralize, not obscure.The internet is already distributed you dimwit.
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>>1661590
Does blockchain run on the internet?
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>>1661585
You have no idea what you are talking about.

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Hi Anons,

I'm interested in trading so I can possibly make some extra side cash. The thing is I'm not so good with math, programming or numbers. I also don't know where to begin or what to trade?

Anyone can point me in the right direction or suggestions? Thanks.
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>>1661319

Master the markets - Tom Williams.

You are welcome.
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>>1661351
Thanks, I'll give it a read.

After doing so, is there any other suggestions?

What do I trade or what is good to trade? Crypto? Penny Stocks?
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What you need to understand is the "mad gainz" you're seeing on here can be attributed to luck. Not to mention losers are much less likely to post screen caps.

Stock investing is an all or none endeavor. Either be an elite day trader or go with passive indexing. Those in the middle don't have very good odds at all.

>b-but loook at these gains from the latest meme stock

You got lucky and don't understand probability or risk. Period.

It's ok to play around with trading but if it a hobby,...
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What is a good way to make ~1 mil quickly? Going to invest the mil and get an upper middle class salary while doing basically jack shit.
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Suck 100.000 cocks for $10 a pop

You can accomplish it in 3 years if you suck 91 cocks a day.

Just put up advertisements and do 9 bukkake sessions per day.
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The quickest way is *always* gambling. Lottery, roulette, etc. You should know this already.

But it's definitely not the best way.
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>>1661233
You didn't even tell him to invest in kneepads

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>raised in family with father who was a marine for 4~ years of his youth
>his father was in the military
>so was his father

>Currently finishing up MS in Economics ( free bc I wasn't a degenerate NEET in highschool/undergrad)
>considering joining the marines through an OSO (officer that recruits new officers)
>would have to serve minimum five years, but would enter marines as a Second...
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>>1661172
If you know economics you should be smart enough to calculate the opportunity cost of your own decisions.
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i hate taxes because of families like yours...
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>>1661236
You got me aye lmao memes

>>1661237
Not my problem that I'm taking advantage of existing laws
>DONT TAKE FREE MONEY
...alright?

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i'm a college student with a part time job
other than my actual job,i flip cars and phones for profit as well as do misc services in exchange for money
i make 'enough' money on the side that i'm saving up for later
should i bother with stocks?
if so,where do i start?
i don't expect becoming a bajillionare off of passive income but a bit of extra money would be nice
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Fellow phone flipper here. I've considered buying cars but don't know much about them. Are you knowledgeable about cars or have you just watched the market to notice good deals?
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Just dump your entire life savings into waves before 4pm tonight and sell out after like 5pm tonight will be a slight rise that you can make some decent earnings with if you have enough invested. waves is crypto. don't be a fag and shun me for my advice to you.
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>>1661144
little bit of both
i know my way around a car,what to check when buying,how expensive common repairs are,how and when to haggle down on the price etc
and i also keep my eye out on the market for good deals
don't start till you know a good bit about cars in general

>>1661146
i don't really know much about cypto currency,care to explain?

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>tfw no heir

all my hard work will die with me
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Sounds like you're wealthy enough to start a foundation. That's probably the best solution - it'll live on after you're gone.
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>>1661120
>saves crying feel faces
>posts on 4chan
>wealthy
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>>1661164
There are definitely wealthy people on here, don't kid yourself. I always assume it.

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Hey guys. I know nothing. But if Aetna and Human a successfully merge, will Humana stocks become worth less?
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Humana stocks probably just be recalled, I'd guess. I think Athena is the bigger one
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>>1661070
Aetna is the bigger one, what happens when stocks are recalled?
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>>1661082
There's no such thing as a stock being "recalled", that's not even a term. What happens to your shares depends on the details of the deal.


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