>>8605696 Kindly get the salt out of your vag. No one said she's a bad lolita or that she shouldn't wear it. While we're here to appreciate her skills, it doesn't change the fact that she does look very old. Stop white knighting for no reason.
>>8604420 There's something off about this jacket. I think it's the center panel. It needs interfacing or less buttons or something. The sleeve cuffs could use some ornamentation too. Velvet is a bitch to work with and this might have worked better in a different fabric.
She looks her age you dumb fucks. Saying "she looks so old" is exactly the same as saying " she looks so blond" or " she looks so black" it implies there is something wrong with it and you value the opposite and with that in mind the fashion is for people of all ages and if youre in it because you want to look young/think that's what the fashion is about then you're most likely in to some age play whether you choose to admit it or not.
>>8603585 If she can rock lolita at whatever age she is, so can I. She gives us hope. >>8604770 hnggggg >>8608599 >HB doesnt match print at all >dat sad poof >dat awkward white fabric at the bottom of the skirt youtriedstar.jpg
>>8608336 >She looks her age you dumb fucks Yeah and that's why she looks like she's in her 30s. I'm sure she's nice and doesn't deserve hate, but come on, she looks like a damn school teacher, and not the hot kind that gets caught fucking the students.
>>8615537 How old are you? Why are you so surprised to see an older person in lolita? There's actually quite a few literal school teachers wearing the fashion, what's wrong with that exactly? I DONT get it.
>>8616521 Oh. I didn't even think of that! The "she LOOKS so old" (As opposed to "she IS old") comment makes a lot more sense now and is actually kind of hilarious. Did she think it was a weirdly old looking teenager? lol
>>8616521 >>8616540 lol god, the kids here. There's this whole gaggle of teens/young people that hit up /cgl/ that seem to think that as soon as you hit 25-28 you have to forsake all your fun hobbies and take up book clubs and wine tasting parties.
We definitely trend a bit younger just because cons are exhausting for people with careers, but "trending younger" for 4chan means that we don't have as many people over 40 as you'll find on the other hobby boards.
>>8616560 >>8616540 While I agree with you, I don't think she looks like she's in her 30s. At least not early 30s. I'm 29 myself, and most my friends and co-workers are around 30-35. She looks older. I think it's the wrinkles around her mouth. Again, not that it's wrong or looks bad with the fashion etc. And I don't even know how old she really is. But if she is in her early 30s she does LOOK older. So the anon who said that might be right.
>>8617226 What fabric is used for this sort of dresses? >>8616384 this looks a bit like a heavy curtain sort of fabric. Would it be huge faux pas to sew a piece of clothing with "decorational" fabric (the sort of that is used for pillow covers and curtains)?
It seems like that's the only option I have in my country when it comes to printed fabric.
>>8617299 Personally, I think she looks in her thirties. There's nothing wrong with that, though. Classical lends itself really, really well to this woman and there's nothing wrong with being in lolita despite being older. What are you supposed to do? Hit 25 and then just sell everything off? She looks so elegant and beautiful and to be honest I'd rather hang out with a mature lolita than a 16 year-old lolita.
>>8617505 Lots of lolita dresses are made with heavier fabrics (mainly velvet) so as long as you have petticoats able to lift it, then you should be fine. That's the main issue. Also, try wearing it in colder seasons just to avoid the heat and heavy fabric is much more acceptable in colder weathers.
Sometimes I find good lolita fabrics in the home decor section. They may have a more interesting texture or just have a better selection of florals (I wear classic). If you look at a lot of printed lolita dresses, they will still have some type of texture of interesting weave. You don't necessarily want heavy, heavy, upholstery fabric, but if you line it and it still has decent drape, don't be afraid to look outside of the regular fabrics section.
>>8617805 Heavy heavy is different to curtain fabric (unless you have intense curtains). The close-up thread really made me feel comfortable looking at heavier fabrics. Haven't found anything good, because I live in a small place. Velvet was just the easiest example I could think of.
>>8616504 I have come to believe that most Lolita's are age players deep down. Pointing out how old someone looks is pretty common, like they are surprised the fashion isn't mostly full of "kawaii" toddler looking girls.
>>8618026 Pointing out how old someone looks is pretty normal in any sort of fashion community, or even just in gossipy areas/circles in general. Have you never seen a tabloid? They're constantly going on about how so and so has more wrinkles on their forehead than a sharpei and definitely needs botox!! I think the people who constantly scream that people who look older shouldn't wear lolita are pants-on-head retarded, though. I'm going to dress cute as fuck for as long as I live.
>>8617299 I hope the anon doesn't calm down. Tired of seeing older Lolita get sandballs thrown at them. We're all going to get older, and I don't plan on outgrowing any of my stuff and abandoning my wardrobe of pastels.
Could anyone recommend me UK based stores to get nice trimming and lace? I've been meaning to make a jsk as my first handmade lolita project but now that I moved to the UK I'm not sure which reputable stores to look for. Thank you in advance!
>>8619755 Different anon, but I'm pretty sure that for that print a lot of people bought the fabric directly from them and made their own. That's why there are so many different styles out there. Pretty sure I remember reading on their FB page that they just sold the fabric as well as the few they made themselves.
>>8620318 I always forget you're on here sometimes...
Have always loved your stuff, and I was getting into lolita in like 2007-08, so my memories of that period are pretty cemented. Those first "big" events between 2007 and 2009, when conventions, first bringing over guests, and letting people run fashion shows. Oh, and TokyoPop was still alive.
>>8619767 I'm an older lolita myself, I get the point and I still think that anon should calm down. Cursing, calling people you've never even seen ugly and generally overreacting at what is pretty much a calm and mature discussion just makes anon and his point look stupid and immature. And that doesn't help anyone.
Does anyone have experience dying fabrics? I bought white fabric because it was the only one that wasn't shit, but now I'd like to dye it light pink. I'm not sure what kind of fabric it is, I got it at a wholesale place. I also got rit dye in a darkish pink. Should I cut the pieces first? Dye first? How do I get the dye to evenly sit on such a big piece of fabric?
I've been playing Onechanbara and I love Saki's outfit (pic related). I'd love to make her dress as a main piece for some coords. Would this be weird? I feel like it'd be less like "cosplay lolita" and more like the Rozen maiden IW line. But I'd love to hear other people's opinions on this.
>>8622747 >>8622747 Doesn't look like it'll translate well to an actual dress, especially the elongated bodice. Personally I'd try to sketch it/shoop onto a photo of myself to see if it would compliment my figure. Other than that I see nothing wrong with incorporating loliable items that were not designed with lolita clothing in mind.
I'm looking for thick semi-matte ribbon, like what Innocent World uses for some of their accessories (pic related, the solid color part). It's like a very dull satin, and double-sided. I thought it was called "sateen" but Google just gives me results for satin ribbon and it's impossible to judge the shininess from photos. Any ideas on where I could find it?
>>8624675 I wholeheartedly agree. The question is whether Anon has the figure to pull it off. If she's not an hourglass, she might end up looking like a brick or even a balloon with frills. It's a very tricky and unflattering cut.
>>8622747 Honestly anon, I think the dress design is pretty ita by lolita standards, and looks like something Marble would've put out in 2004. You might want to stick to just cosplaying it because after the design adjustments necessary to make it look nice as a lolita dress it wouldn't be recognizable anymore.
I made a skirt today! I'm happy with my gathering skills, I think I'm getting much better at it! On the other hand I can never get my circle skirts hemmed evenly, especially not when I'm working in cramped dorm rooms.
Has anyone come across that light yellow lace that Innocent World and Mary Magdalene use? I love that it looks gold against other colours, but isn't as garish as gold lace itself. Been looking up and down Etsy with no luck.
Hopefully this is a good place to ask rather than the general help thread - is there any reason one might not want to do shirring with the elastic thread method rather than the elastic + casing method I've seen most use? For example, would this sort of shirring: http://www.made-by-rae.com/2013/08/tutorial-shirring-with-elastic-thread/ be considered in bad taste for the back of a lolita dress? I'm always surprised by things/techniques more knowledgeable seamstresses turn their noses up at, and I wanted to make sure that this was not one of those things.
>>8631158 Elastic thread shirring tends to be more fragile, is all. It's also common to see on little girls' summer dresses, which some people interpret as having a "cheap" look. Another way to go about it is to actually sew through strips of elastic as well (attaching them directly to the fabric as you stretch the elastic). That's a BIT sturdier than elastic thread, and brands use it for summer pieces that aren't lined, but the channel method tends to just work best because it's sturdy, tidy, and in general looks nicer.
>>8631158 I see this more often with blouses or in small shirring panels that aren't meant to have a good deal of stress put on them. I've only seen bodyline use that method for their shirring on their dresses. The stitches can pop and the elastic can come loose.
>>8622676 I've dyed a blouse, skirt and a giant 4 meter stretch of fabric. Blouse and skirt went fine. The fabric was orange and REALLY heavy (2kg). I dyed it dark red while I only wanted it tinted slightly more red. The dye was only supposed to be for 600 grams of fabric. I don't know what happened. I was worried it would be blotchy because of the amount of dye not being enough for the fabric but it was evenly covered and as dark as the package. If you're doing a machine wash like me, I think it won't be a problem to get it evenly covered, but it will be a challenge getting the right shade of pink. Dying is a heck of a job, anon, good luck :/ (Also they're not kidding about wearing gloves. One tiny speck of powder and my finger was blue for days.)
>>8634591 Thanks for the information! Update on this: I just went for it. I wanted to dye white fabric pastel pink. But I didn't find light pink dye, so I got "fuschia" rit dye. I found it was too purple-based when I watered it down, so I mixed in some yellow rit dye from a past project. I watered it down a lot, but the samples kept dying too bright. So I dunked a piece for 5 seconds, rinsed it in hot water, then put it aside. I then threw it in the washing machine with hot water and dried it. I cut out the pieces before I dyed it, but I would not reccomend that. It made for easier and more even dying, but when I washed it, it frayed like a mofo. All in all a good experience.
Actually i've already sell this skirt, but i'm aiming for concrit for next projects! What kinda lace do you think? Guipir? I didn't think about it because the skirt was so long with the ruffles (75cm total)
>>8634560 It was very simple, I hope to improve next time. I put it only to hide where the boning was.
>>8631164 >>8631162 Thank you two for this info! I think I've decided to go ahead and do the elastic casing method despite it looking harder to accomplish, don't want to accidentally snap something. I might post it in this thread when I'm done! And here's a nice handmade JSK to contribute.
general question. I want to start sewing more lolita dresses, but I'm not sure where to start for the design. Should I worry more about getting a decent fabric pattern or spend more time on the overall design and shape of dresses?
>>8640086 Start with the shape. Make things out of nice quality solids before you worry about a fancy print. Otome no Sewing patterns are a good place to start if you already have aa decent knowledge of sewing in general.
>>8648959 >>8632977 Did you know she'd get her fabrics from Japan and would have to compete with some indie brands like Chocochip Cookie and even AP at one time? I remember reading it in the G&L english bible and I think it's on a scan on her old website. It's painful how new you are.
>>8650958 different anon, but also thinking of commissioning voodoodolly for one of her headdresses--is there a certain website/email that I need to contact her on? her tumblr doesn't have a FAQ and I dont want to be rude by just sending her a fb message or something.
I'm also overseas so I can't really ask her at cons regarding this.
>>8651440 the bottom looks a bit... rough some people might also get nitpicky about the whites and I see what you were trying to do by cropping because it posted sideways haha not sure why it didn't work
>>8655218 ah dammit! I just send her a message yesterday on etsy. I was waiting for her to come back from rufflecon.. arghh. But thanks anon i'll message her fb. I don't need this headdress till dec anyway
>>8612531 I love this but I wish she had an over petti for her pannier... It seriously bothers me when you can see boning through fabric, simple petticoats are a must with boning. Other than that its so good, but ugh the boning thing always kills me
>>8657251 She was selling at Rufflecon so I know that most if not all of her inventory went with her. Hopefully she gets more stuff up soon, now that she's not headed for a con any time soon (I assume)
>>8658792 Her time is probably going to be taken up by those commission slots, and then she is going to Dream Fantasy Theater in December so I doubt she will have time to put up any headdresses or hats in her etsy for the rest of this year.
aight so I figured this thread would be better than the halloween thread.
I recently picked up a dress from a thrift store for a witch outfit, the dress is pretty much exactly what I need but it's too small for my wide shoulders and ribcage.
The dress is a chiffon type, kind of drapey dress with a defined natural waist, using a ribbon of some sort to separate the top and skirt. There's a zipper in the side of the dress, from the hip and up to under the armpit. It is v-necked and sleeveless. I can get it on without issues, and the zipper zips up fine to my waist, but my ribcage is too wide to fit the rest. I was considering whether I could modify it? So far I've considered:
>Creating a corset style lacing in the back Pros: no hassling with the zipper, does not have to be very visible, easy place to add a modification. Cons: probably not enough skirt to make a rectangular panel, not sure how much it will better the fit, hard to tie on my own, might make the rest sit weird.
>Undoing the sides and fill them out, either corset style or just plain fabric panels Pros: will probably give a more accurate fit, possibly easier to put on on my own Cons: will most likely necessitate me moving the zipper to the back, if not removing it completely, more visible if fuckups happen, more difficult to work with.
A third option is to just use the skirt portion of the dress, but then I'll have to cut through and remake the zipper... Any ideas? I've made minor alterations before and can sew with confidence, but this type of thing is a first to me.
Can I get some thoughts on unusual color combinations in lolita?
Thinking of doing something like this http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/selaja/14829424/4977/4977_900.jpg
In mustard yellow with a cream underskirt. I've never seen that shade of yellow done before but I think it could be really beautiful. Also considering like a warm orangeish red/terracotta again with cream.
Any color combos you'd personally like to see more of?
>>8660574 I would hesitate to say this thread is better for a halloween-related question than the halloween thread, as it's mostly for posting photos of pretty handmade lolita dresses rather than discussing sewing techniques for thrifted witch dresses. But I suppose you know best.
That said, I would go with the first option. Instead of cannibalizing the skirt for the panel material, just go pick up a half yard of fabric from Joann's and use that. When you lace the corset, use extra-long ribbon and lace it "upside-down" so that you can tighten the corset yourself, and then loop the ribbon ends around your waist a couple of times and tie it in front. You can use that as the belt, or you can then tie your desired belt over it.
>>8660821 I've seen mustard used as an accent, but I feel like it might be too strong of a colour to work on a dress like that without something to break it up. For example, a floral print with mustard coloured blossoms on a beige background over a cream underskirt could work. But I feel like a solid mustard fabric would be overwhelming.
Alternatively, adding textural elements to break up the solid fabric could work (pintucks or smocking, embroidery or similar).
Terracotta might be a nicer choice overall.
But I guess the final decision is also down to how well those colours suit you, too.
I'm really interested in starting up a little indie accessory brand/side-project type of thing. I don't expect to make oodles of money off of this of course, but I like making my own accessories and I really want to give back to the community, so to speak. I feel as though this may be a broad question, but does anyone have any tips they'd like to share? Preferred selling platforms, getting your name out there, how to price things appropriately, etc. Dunno if this is the right thread for this, but I don't see an indie lolita thread and also figured I might find more answers here than in LG.
I was gifted this fabric. It's very good quality and thick. Kind of reminds me of curtain fabric but I quite like it anyway. I've added a gutermann thread spool for size reference. I don't think it will work for lolita, but could it work for otome? I was planning to make a simple vintage dress with shoulder pleats and a full rectangle skirt from it.
>>8655258 honest just cut paper crescents until you get the shape you want a deeper inwards curve makes for a higher bonnet and a flatter curve makes for a low sitting forwards bonnet if youre lazy and wat to make one quick you can use cardboard for the inside but otherwise buckram is the best
>>8679662 Imo the print just seems to big to fit well on a bodice. How about something similar to this (only shorter)? http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1LN_mHXXXXXbnaXXXq6xXFXXX1/205911353/HTB1LN_mHXXXXXbnaXXXq6xXFXXX1.jpg?size=166676&height=563&width=750&hash=f54f438a5c1ac61181b34444f2235a95
I apologize if this is the wrong thread, but are there any fb groups or groups at all for lolita commissions? I want to commission a headdress similar to this one but in a different colorway/fur, and I'd like a chance to browse seamstresses and their creations. I don't want to commission just a random person and have a subpar headdress.
>>8600362 Incredible. That is some brand quality work right there >>8602122 I'm not a fan of the fabric, but this looks really well constructed. >>8602541 yuck... >>8602554 This one's really cute >>8604412 >>8604414 Geez, these are amazing. I honestly had no idea so many of her dresses were handmade >>8609330 Alright this one wins the thread I'm out
>>8619771 If you're still here, try looking at antique/vintage shops. There are tons of charity shops where I live that sell lace etec- but you have to wade through the mounds of crap to get to the good stuff. I buy most of my sewing stuff online, so I can't give you a good physical shop, but vintage/antique shops are seriously great.
>>8690630 I actually meant online, sorry..! I've been to a couple of charity shops where I live but they don't have anything like that. I'll take your advice and see if I can find antique shops in my area. Would you mind sharing where you buy online? That was what I wanted with my original post, my bad. And thank you!
>>8678002 wouldn'tdo a skirtonit's own, it would looktoo much like a bedsheet imo. If it were me, I would do one of those dresses with a solid color bodice, probably cream, and use t his for the skirt part
>>8623139 >>8695340 I agree, on that it's fine to use fleece but only use a layer. I made attached a few years ago and it was fleece lined with fleece. Super warm, and I could wear it out in the snow, but it was a little stiff.
If you want to go with wool or a thinner fabric if you put a layer of insul bright between the facing and lining, it should do the same job or better than fleece. (I used to work at joanns and all the crazy quilt ladies would use this stuff for pot holders)
>>8696993 Thanks! I personally found mine a little stiff when wearing it is all. It can catch on your ruffles and arms and can bunch up if you don't keep a close eye on it, especially when sitting down. Personal preference really though.
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