Re posting due to old thread dying quickly after posted. I got my LolitaDesu lucky pack order in today. I'm a bit mixed on it, these are the first lolita items I've ever had. I'm a bit mixed because of the amount of items-I ordered the extra large size which is over 300 dollars and says "contains 5-11 items" I received 7- three of those being headbows and one being a low quality off brand tote bag. I'm pretty happy with the items themselves, especially the blouse I got. Overall I got three headbows, one blouse, one skirt, one JSK, and a bag thing. I also ordered some OTKs for 10 dollars. Sorry for potato picture.
>>8667594 That's pretty disappointing compared to the other anon with the choco/biscuit (?) themed pack. I get that she needs to make a profit from them, but this pack could easily be bought for less than $200 from CC or y!japan.
>>8667775 I am choco/biscuit pack anon. So far I have ordered two packs one large one xxl. I am very pleased with both and felt they were worth the money. I have a third size xxl on the way. To be honest I think it comes down to how picky you are about items. These packs work for me because A) I love lucky packs more than life B) I ask for casual items for mostly wardrobe padding and mix and match. As long as it fits me and my theme I am not picky and I am very lazy. Its worth it to me to have a fun surprise box full of items I dont have to hunt down. I have only sold two items out of my boxes.
I think if you are very particular or looking for big ticket items it may not be for you. To the anon with the navy pack, that jsk is totally adorable. It was at one time my dream dress, I may be a little bit jealous. Sorry if any massive typos Im on mobile.
>>8667775 I'd say it'd be good to get a medium pack to test it out, a medium pack will probably come with a skirt + blouse and some accessories.
The only reason I was a little disappointing was because I thought I'd get like two dresses or two skirts + what I got because of the price. I still think it's a good deal-probably really good if you're trying to get accessories, blouses, and skirts.
IW posted blind lucky packs for Halloween. 1 skirt + 2 dresses/jsks for the retail price of 1 jsk. Kind of surprised they didn't include blouses as I thought that's the major reason girls bought IW lucky packs, but I guess it's better than receiving an outfit that barely goes together.
They also opened reservation for Fantasy Night Sky again, if anybody missed out on that, although some items are already sold out.
I don't really know whether to post here or in the releases thread, but the releases thread is mostly Holy Lantern, so I figured it'd be more useful here for gulls who aren't spending all their money on Holy Lantern instead.
Do you gulls think I could sell little witches hats like pic related? It's made from wool coating fabric, silk organza and wool felt flowers. Obviously I could change up the flowers as I'm not /totally/ in love with them but what do you guys think? Sorry if pic is sideways, I'm on my phone.
>>8668556 I like scarves with lolita because I like texture in lolita, especially on solid coordinates. But it's going to depend on the rest of the outfit, too. A super sleek outfit with a knit scarf is going to be out of place. But something that has a bit more emphasis on texture to begin with (like some of the deconstructed knit you see used by h.naoto, or the layered textures in AatP and Boz pieces), it could work.
Personally, I used a sort of open-knit scarf that had a sort of "tattered" look for a Halloween witch coord a few years ago. It worked well for that particular outfit, but any other combination would have been awkward and out of place.
Maybe put together a test coord and post to the coord help thread?
>>8668604 Yeah, no worries. Just try different things and see how you go. Texture is something that I feel like a lot of lolitas ignore or misuse (like those bloody Baby replica socks), so I'm always excited when I see people work it well with their coords.
I have a friend who has no idea what otome is, and just seems to think its lolita with less poof, which I know it is in some ways, but I does KINDA have rules, and it irks me when I buy a dress for casual j-fash, and she always goes 'ooh you could totally wear that for otome' Like no. What.
>>8668636 >>8668642 this might be OT, but i tend to dress my lolita in more subdued colors/cuts (low poof) with cardigans, ankle socks, berets. etc. would it be closer to casual lolita or otome? It's the same way I wear my milk or JM pieces. I've been meaning to ask this to avoid pissing anyone off by accident.
Just recieved my Angelic Pretty JSK today and it doesn't fit. Going from the measurements from Lolibrary it definetely should fit or at least shouldn't be THAT small. It looks like it shrinked as a whole (the dress is hardly covering my butt, I'm 160cm). The dress ist from 2010.
Gulls, what to do? Is it normal that AP fucks up measurements like this? Should the seller has informed me? I'm lost.
Grab a measuring tape and check the measurements, see if they're true to lolibrary? Keep in mind that dresses from before 2013 had a tendency to be smaller, so something like the jsk straps not being adjustable can contribute to the dress not sitting properly on you even though the measurements look like they should fit.
AP has mixed up the measurements of one of their lucky pack jsks before, they swapped the special set jsk measurements with the jsk set measurements for one particular year and then somebody on egl threw a bit of a fit over it. So yes, it sometimes happens.
Unfortunately it's simply a chance you take when you buy online. You can certainly hedge your bets by finding out how it looks like on other people (this is why we have a worn thread, if you can figure ou the measurements of the girls wearing them you can guess how the dress should sit on you), or asking the seller if they can verify the measurements before you buy (but even the seller can only do so much, most of them can only take flat measurements), or asking other girls whether the measurements are true to size. Still, things like this sometimes happens, it's just your luck if it's the one dress that looks good on other people but not you, or maybe no one else has this dress and could not warn you that the measurements aren't accurate.
If you had asked the seller about the measurements and they don't match up with what you measure from the dress, you can contact the seller and try to negotiate a refund or return.
If you didn't, then it's not really the sellers fault. Your best bet is to either sell on the dress yourself or have it altered to suit your body.
>>8668742 again i think this is more of an Otome Gen conversation but I'll say to me it depends on how you're coording them. If there's less poof but everything is still as matchy-matchy as it would be for a regular coordinate, to me that's casual lolita. If you're doing interesting color/pattern combinations, and using quirkier hats and socks and stuff like that, it's otome to me.
>>8668636 There are so many girls like that in my comm. They think if you wear emikyu or jane marple it instantly makes it otome?
I recently got pic related and when I added it to my wardrobe on fb I got lots of "I didn't know you were into otome" comments. I'm going to wear it on casual days with a cupcake petti, tights and alice bow.
There's a middle ground where otome and casual lolita can overlap, some outfits can be both, or one but with the other's influence.
The first consideration is that you meet the criteria of whatever you're tagging. So if it's lolita, it should at least have the lolita poof going on, the skirt should not be so flat people have to start guessing whether or not you're even wearing one very flat petticoat or nothing at all. For otome, at least it should meet the casual girly feel of otome, you should not look like an overdressed princess. And if it's neither, then don't tag it as either at all.
The other consideration is a comparison that another anon made, lolita is very dressed up next to otome, she likened it to a wedding cake versus a plain lattice pie. So if your outfit is very fancy or your dress has tiers of ruffles, lolita is the better tag for it, if it has a simple silhoutte (fun prints are ok), then otome is the better tag for it.
A third consideration, if you've already thought about the other two and are still somewhat on the fence, go with the major brands in your outfit. So say, if you're not very poofy but moderately fancy, tag it according to most of the brands you're wearing, lolita for mainly lolita brands, or otome if you're mainly wearing otome brands.
Most of the time I see girls get riled up over people not understanding the otome tag like venting anon above, or people who use the otome tag to excuse a fugly lolita outfit, making otome seem like the dumping ground for lolita rejects. If you don't fall into either one, then I wouldn't sweat the minor details too much. Just wear your outfits and be really cute.
>>8668767 I already flat measured and going from there 5-7 cm are missing to the official measurements at bust and waist. I didn't ask the seller because I trusted Lolibrary, up to now I never had problems. I guess I learned from it, but now I also know I can forget about other older releases with similar cuts.
>>8668830 >The other consideration is a comparison that another anon made, lolita is very dressed up next to otome, she likened it to a wedding cake versus a plain lattice pie. So if your outfit is very fancy or your dress has tiers of ruffles, lolita is the better tag for it, if it has a simple silhoutte (fun prints are ok), then otome is the better tag for it.
This is really flawed. There are lots of simpler lolita dresses. Gothic dresses for one aren't normally ruffly.
Hmmm, now that you mention it, I guess maybe the simple silhoutte is not the right criteria? But there is something about otome that seems simple and effortless, whereas with lolita there's a feeling of artful arrangement, if you get what I mean?
Sorry, I guess I'm not all that great at pinpointing exactly where it goes from one to the other.
>>8668791 >>8668830 thanks for the feedback! I kept it in lolita gen since it's predominantly lolita items/brands just dressed down. I don't sweat the details, but it's just for future reference in case it comes up. Both responses are super helpful!
I really want to get into making hats/headwear for lolita. What kind of things are people interested in? I'm especially interested in making bigger, fancier hats like gainsborough hats working my way up to more intricate/detailed styles of bonnets like the 3F ones. Would also do other types of headwear like boater hats, fascinators, combs/clips, rectangle headdresses, nicer quality floral headbands, etc.
>>8668836 Oh jeeze. Non shirred items from 5 years ago are really tiny anon. I'd try and trade it for any of the shirring JSKs if you like the print. If the dress did shrink check the seams inside of the dress - they'll be warped.
>>8668876 Literally everyone is dying for the flat sort of rococo hat you can never find. Please make some. Although boater hats that won't get squashed in transit are welcome, just more hats in general. It's better to be a bit more expensive and actually nice than it is to be cheap looking.
>>8668876 I'd personally be interested in straw hats, bowler hats and berets that are large enough to accommodate a wig. I've had too many hats specifically meant for lolita that are too small whenever I wear a wig with them.
I ordered something on the 8th and still haven't seen the charge show up on my card. Is this normal? The package just hit customs and I'll have it tomorrow or Monday. Did I possibly get a freebie or is the charge going to randomly go through eventually?
>>8668848 >>8668859 I don't think the silhouette is what makes something otome or not, more the level of detail and accessorizing. "Artful arrangement" is a good way of putting it. It's not the level of ruffliness but the level of, how should I say this, general decoration maybe? I think the wedding cake vs lattice pie is still a good idiom.
hey cgl, I know we're all hyped for favourite ribbon and holy lantern and just releases in general
what the HELL happened to sweet rebel? I've not seen any Kate mockery in these recent weeks (it's a breath of fresh air) but she's in Japan, being cringeworthy. She's jetsetting but as far as I know her camera crew aren't tagging along. What's going on, will we ever have our documentary about kate's life, and how she savours?????
Does anyone know how the reservation for Baby's Favorite Ribbon works? The site mentions October 22nd but is there a limit on the number of pieces being sold? Will it be a bloodbath or can I just use a regular s.s. that's willing to buy reservation items?
>>8669257 I was the one who made that anon do tests, it's definitely not Kate. Photos she saves on her phone save at a larger size than the facebook file for some random reason. Got her to do tests with a specific random photo I chose from the group, and it checks out. >>8669289 I think it was two different people. Posting a picture someone sent you in an imgur album on a Closet of Frills specific thread makes no fucking sense, so pretty sure that one would have been Kate trying to cover up. The anon on lolcow was very responsive and proved herself, though.
>>8669254 Anyone who thinks the final "confession" is real is retarded because she had posted that picture on her Facebook days before.
As someone who is on the brink of fitting/not fitting many of AP's clothes, 5 years ago makes a lot of difference. Heck, even this year and last year made a huge diference.
5 years ago I wouldn't try for any of the non shirred stuff. Dresses within the last 5 years though? I have a couple of non shirred dresses that fit me, and according to their official measurements there's a handful more that can accommodate me with room to spare. All of these are releases from the last 5 years. There might be something from older than 5 years than can fit me, but that would be a rarity, whereas now it's an even toss up whether a dress is likely to fit me or not..
Sometime this year/last year AP started making more and more dresses with longer shoulder straps or even two buttonholes. Releases from just three years ago tended to have shorter shoulder straps, so it was impossible to add inches to the bodice by lengthening the shoulder straps, unless you added your own material.
Gulls, I just came to a sad realization. Since HL has the MTO this week, we only have two more weeks until Halloween. Horror Garden should come out sometime between then. But with the amount of time it takes for items to get to Tenso then to ship out.... unless if you're in Japan, I don't think any of us will have Horror Garden in time for Halloween.
How much of a faux pas would it be if I went to an AP tea party wearing a jsk from taobao or bodyline? I suspect a huge one because designers and such but I just want to hear from other people who have actually been to brand tea parties.
I only have an AP parasol and berry bag and I bought them both earlier on when I first started lolita before settling on classic/gothic.
Should I just buy a cheaper JSK for the tea party? A friend told me they'll let you in as long as you have something small from AP but I feel like this is a go-big-or-go-home kind of thing. (By go big I mean at least the main piece, not a purse or a hairbow.)
I had the idea to put together a country coord with the bodyline jsk or an AP jsk I found on LM, but it's winter..
>>8669862 You can't attend if your main piece isn't AP. They say that on the dress code. And if this is for the anniversary party, you'd be almost as laughed at as Tiferet and her mutilated CTP if you showed up in taobao/bodyline.
I don't mind. Bust 92cm, goes down to 90,88-ish cm with a sports bra, making aatp dresses also hit-or-miss. Waist 72cm. Measurements aside I have a slightly longer torso that makes it difficult to fit into certain dresses.
What wouldn't I give for a lolita shop near me where I can walk in and try on clothes, I'm on the outer limits of a lot of dresses.
>>8669862 Depends on the party. If you are talking about the SF store, except for the anniversary party, the events are hosted by Harajuku Hearts, so anything that is affiliated with them should also be okay. Just call or email and ask.
>>8669956 I think it was discussed in the last thread. The clip art doesn't look too impressive close up but very nice from further away. I really like the OP cut and the red colorway, because the grid pattern of the bookshelf seems more visible.
>>8669839 That depends if you're someone who wears it daily, in your free time or just to tea parties and meets.
>>8668876 definitely the gainsborough hats, perhaps just not quite as large? also things like this in the photo! (that might be gainsborough as well, im not well-versed on hats at all) with flowers and such?
>>8669932 You seem to have pretty standard measurements which are perfect for Baby, AP and Meta. Do you have a big gap between your bust and underbust like me? It makes the fit very awkward on dresses without shirring sometimes.
>>8669956 Holy lantern is way higher priority for most people and the cuts of this are pretty meh compared to Meta's usual stuff. That being said, I jumped on the short jsk in amethyst and the tights as soon as the release started. I think it'll be one of those meta prints that eventually makes it onto heaps of people's wishlists even though it's not selling out as quick as, say, daydreaming goldfish did
>>8669839 Not for big events, but for smaller meets and day to day stuff sure. I have about 30 dresses so I don't have to repeat outfits for meet ups
Well, they're common measurements -- for the garments themselves. Ideally you want to be a little bit under, ie- 86cm bust to fit into a dress with 88cm bust or 88cm to fit into a 92cm bust, instead of my 92cm bust that needs a sports bra to get down to 88cm, and 66-68cm waist instead of 70cm on the dot. At my size the right bra, or a little bit of binder or corseting helps me fit into a dress, but other times I come across a dress that is either cut a bit too short or too high for my long torso, or sometimes it's just a tad smaller than the official measurements listed, so I could "fit" but the seams look to be bursting, which is bad.
That's why I said I'm on the brink of fitting many dresses, sometimes it's just a mere 1-2cm in the bust that prevents me from pulling up the zipper, other times the dress makes me look like the Hulk in a princess dress. If I get lucky then the dress does actually fit and look good on me.
Sorry, overlooked this comment earlier. I think it's true that 2006/2007 dresses tended to be smaller than 2010 dresses, I think maybe the dresses started getting bigger in 2010, but maybe by luck I always liked the designs that were still made in smaller sizes. Even with the larger sizes it's not as if AP made a smooth transition to a bigger size, at the moment their sizing is all over the place, the high-waisted/trapeze dresses that have no measurements don't look good on anyone who isn't short and waifish anyway, so it's become more important to check the measurements of the dress now.
>>8670028 Meta's full back shirring is really stretchy, usually 100cm max in my experience. I'd say almost definitely it'll fit, but if your cup size is large you'll get heaps of riding up at the front and it may be a bit boobloafy (nothing near as bad as IW though)
>>8669956 I'm glad this isn't popular, because I don't have any money right now and I'm hoping it'll stay in stock until I can afford it. I'm gonna go for the OP or the long JSK in red when I have the money.
>>8669956 I want it but I just got the Witch in the Forest skirt, and Little Squirrel skirt and bag so I'm tapped out for a while which makes me mad because i need this. I hope they release a skirt cut later, I find skirts easier to coord.
>>8669956 I think I'm stupid because I can't figure out what time today Meta is going to release Secret Laboratory. Apparently google is telling me it should've already been release 4 in the morning for me.
How accurate are JetJ's measurements usually? I'm a 88 bust 68 waist and I just ordered a size 2 OP because I figured that their measurements are for the garment instead of the person, but now I'm worried the dress is going to be baggy on me.
>>8670293 I wish I had a card I could just charge this to. I did apply for one recently, and it got denied because apparently my credit was invalid/not found despite having a pretty good score. Now my score is fucked. I don't understand, but I'm going to see if I can work it out or something.
Am I the only one who gets annoyed at re-releases at times? If it took me years and lots of money to hunt down a rare expensive dress, having it re-released later just takes away all the fun. Now it won't be special anymore. Ugh.
>>8670421 I mean, I feel like a lot of dresses that are re-released are still special? Like take a look at Misty Sky, it's still a prestige piece even after what, three or four re-releases? And it still goes for boatloads of money over retail. I have a feeling Holy Lantern and My Favorite Ribbon will both be like this as well.
They're a little inconsisten unfortunately. I have both Feerie and Robe du Village, two dresses with exactly the same listed measurements. However, Feerie is definitely a little looser while Robe du Village is tight, almost boobloafy.
Someone has mentioned it has to do with the cut of their dresses, so my guess is if you got something cut more like Robe du Village it would be a little tighter than something that looks like Feerie, I guess.
Anyone wear a binder/minimizer in lolita? I've got a fairly large bust, not enough to stop me from wearing lolita, but enough that I have to be super careful about anything with buttons down the front.
It'd just be nice to not have to worry about them getting in the way of wearing what I want to wear all the time. Anyway, if anyone has some suggestions I'd be super grateful.
>>8670206 Just avoid bodyline at any special gathering period. Or if you do wear it, wear it like you've got something to prove with layers of antique accessories and scoff anytime anyone asks you what you're wearing.
>>8670421 idk, dude, I like the shit I buy based on how it looks. I liked the way Holy Lantern looked. I didn't get it for years. Now I am and that's nice.
I also loved Chocolate Rosette. I bought some pieces over retail (not, 600, but def around the $300 period on skirts) and I haven't gotten the piece I loved the most. I'm not mad at people who already have it. If it's re-re-re-released I won't be mad at people who get them easier and cheaper than I did.
You know what I'm going to do? Get more of what I like and appreciate the versions I got. Be happy for girls who waited for years.
Those are the only two big ones I've really loved but I think that's what the attitude should be. It's time to be grown ups. If you've been here long you should be exactly at the age to understand that.
>>8670479 No, that wasn't me anon. I thought about this because of the recent re-releases, but In my case, I had finally gotten my hands on Lotta and some months later the re-release was announced. How much does the new version go for now, in (not any more nordict) blue?
>>8670444 Hah, you're right actually. I should look at the brighter side of stuffs
>>8670574 >>8670546 Yea, I get what you are saying. I also buy my shit based on how it looks, just to get that straigt. But c'mon, you can't deny that there is also somewhat of a collector factor in there. Like, when you collect something, the best items are those that are rare. This is going to be a really stupid example, but that's how it works with jewels. They are rare, everybody wants them -> they are expensive. If they were to be found everywhere, they wouldn't be expensive and people wouldn't get nuts over them. Supply and demand, amirite? I relate to that. And I'm pretty sure, a lot of Lolitas do. That's how much of the human mind works... you want the stuff that is difficult to get. I also have a lot of dreamdresses that are cheap. The dresses I want most are really, truly beautiful to me in all aspects (cut, color, fabric, theme, everything). But I also love some terribly expensive ones, and if they get re-released after I paid a lot and they were rare then and not anymore now and ... IKD. I feel like they loose some of their attraction, and that specific attraction has nothing to do with the beauty of the dress itself. it was just a special something that came along with that very beautiful dress. I love my clothes like I did before the re-releases, don't get me wrong. And I know this is not a popular opinion, but I also think a lot of people just don't like to admit all that. Sorry for the long rant tho, and sorry for my bad engrish.
>>8670479 that was for the black x gold colorway though, which isn't being rereleased, so it'll probably keep its value or at least still sell within the 1000 ~ range. maybe the 800 ~ 900 range at the very least, but that's being highly optimistic after a sale for 2000.
So... La robe vert Clair is over 700$ from what I'm reading on the site. I kind of don't care and want it anyway, even though that costs almost more than the rest of my dresses put together. I absolutely love it. Do you think the blue colorway would be better? Do I have to buy the matching headdress to have a good set when I eventually resell? I personally don't like it at all
However- I am super confused by pic related, how are you supposed to order and pay, then. I googled it to no avail
>>8670669 Look for the BTSSB international order guide. Basically, you can't use Tenso with their web store, because if you give them a Japanese address, they only accept payment via Japanese bank transfer (which Tenso doesn't have).
>>8670675 Thanks. Do you understand the difference between the "unbleached ruffle" and "ivory frill" versions of the dress? I am clicking through the pictures and it isn't clear at all. The menu gives four colorways, but the pictures only seem to show two
>>8670682 Are you using an automatic translator? If so, turn it off. There's four options because you should see two of each colorway, with one for each colorway being in Japanese and the other in English. If you're international, you have to purchase the English listing for the colorway you want (this also makes sure you get English customer service).
>>8670504 I bought a binder from Taobao to wear with some of my lolita outfits, brings me down from a 100cm bust to about 95cm and it's pretty comfy, only problem is to make sure the straps and such aren't peaking out.
>>8670609 There's no "having a limited collector's item" factor for me. I like the dress, I buy it. DDC had a rerelease and that doesn't make me like DDC any less. Sure, there'll be more shitty coords out there, but so what? I'm going to still like my coord.
>>8670609 I don't know what to tell you. I grew out of that garbage hoardy collector attitude along with pokemon cards, and as a clinical psych person let me tell you: that is not how the human brain works. That's all social. Like, just so you know.
If you're going with that logic, why would you ever wear your collectible brand? Even if you're neat as hell, a small accident could stain it for life or rip it. Its value goes down the drain.
That weird rant you went on seems really specific, and that's specific to you.
And food for thought: something uniquely special to you can also be uniquely special to a ton of other people, independent of you. You aren't a special snowflake of taste and you can't fabricate a rarity or uniqueness. So the people you MIGHT see wearing the thing you love, they have every right to love it like that. The thing you own doesn't lose specialness.
I don't have to be best friends with someone wearing the same print as me, but my dress isn't sullied by them having it.
>>8670615 >>8670624 I do use credit karma, and there's nothing suspicious looking on my report. My paypal got hit a few months ago, but I sorted that out and kept a close eye on my credit after that because a credit card was added to the account in my name. Credit Karma never showed a new card opened up, so I assumed I was ok. I'll look into it again and hopefully get it all sorted out.
>>8670967 we need more people who are willing to say shit like this instead of sugarcoating things.what you posted isn't mean at all. it's very straightforward and blunt without being rude or sounding condescending at all.
on a related note, if someone really loves a dress/print then by all means, let them enjoy it. you never really loved it if other people having it spoils the fun for you. you buy the thing to make yourself happy, not to sit on a throne of spoiled, self-entitlement.
>>8670997 Me! I dunno if I'll have the patience for those group photo ops though, my usual Disney routine is running around trying to go on as many rides as possible. Also I will probably be wearing sneakers.
>>8670866 Do you think the sizing will be true? I had fully committed my heart to buying this and figured out how to use the site on my mobile, and then I saw the waist measurements on the lolibrary post for it... 68 cm
I have a 69 cm waist and there doesn't appear to be shirring. I have two unshirred baby dresses that fit perfectly, but I have never tried to buy anything that is listed under 72cm.
Do you guys think this will run bigger than 68 or am I fucked
I wasn't sure if I should post this here or in the comm thread, but has anyone been to Cafe Princess in Toronto? Is it worth checking out? I'll be in the city for a bit and am considering going one day. Alternatively, if there are any other cute cafes/bakeries/shops in Toronto, I'd love to hear about them. I'll be staying near the fashion district, if that means anything.
>>8671242 It's good for photos, but the food is meh. Apparently our comm's held meets there before?
There are quite a few vintage stores on Queen West where you can find blouses and accessories if you're leaning towards classic. And they also have Mokuba, which I think is the lace and ribbon supplier for a lot of brands if you're into crafts.
Nadege isn't really lolita, but I really like their pastries so I recommend you checking them out too.
>>8671294 I've seen photos from the Toronto comm's meet ups there, actually. It does look cute, but if the food isn't great, I'll pass, since I'll be with a couple normie friends anyhow. Nadege's pastries look amazing! I'll definitely check it out. If I have time, Mokuba is also something I'd be interested in browsing. Thanks, anon.
>>8670067 Oh, I was comparing to half shirring IW...you can get your boobs in there a lot of the time, but the bodices are seriously cut flat in the front so even if it stretches it boobloafs. Meta is more generous in its half shirring but you still don't really want to be above a C...
>>8671562 She's still active but she just posts dancing videos then takes them down a day later. She quit her job to practice full time to become an idoru. She thinks it's the only career route that suits her.
>>8671440 Lmao you're showing you don't know much about lolita if you think just above the knee is unacceptable. It's fine, AP did it on purpose, around 2010 (ott sweet era) ap was made shorter dresses intentionally. 5'4" is short, it's about the average Japanese girl height so quit your whinging and just wear it. 'Dresses should cover your knees' is just a general thing. Noobs taking this stuff as gospel, jfc.
If I wished a seller would have done a better job packaging, but was good otherwise, should I just leave positive feedback but mention the issue in it, or send them a message about it privately and give good feedback about it otherwise? Both seem kind of awkward but I think my purchase got a bit beat up in transit because of her.
Hey anons, I'm in a bit of a predicament. Someone bought an item I had for sale, but she doesn't have any feedback on her page, nor does she have any other forms of feedback. I'm not sure what to do, should I have her pay as gift? Pay half as gift? I don't want to distrust her but if there is no reason to trust her... It's an expensive piece hence my dilemma.
Does Qutieland scam? My order hasn't updated past 'awaiting stock confirmation' even though they've sent me an invoice that I've paid over a week ago. Even immediately e-mailing them afterwards to let them know the transaction ID.
So is egl comm sales dead right now or something? I tried posting something there 2 days ago, and messaged a mod a day ago after nothing happened. Still no response and no rejection of my post in my email either.
>>8671673 Same, it's really lost its visibility even though it still sells typically for over retail. I think I've seen it worn once in the past year or so and that was in-person.
>>8671924 >>8671932 This is the only thing that really sucks about lolita sales these days- no good central place to post WTB's. cgl buythread won't reach a wide audience, egl is dead, fb doesn't really reach a wide audience either and is a terrible format. I really wish LM would open up a section for WTB listings because I feel like that's the only widely used place left with a decent (if poorly moderated) format.
>>8671673 It was really popular in 2011/2012, shortly after its re-release. There was a time, where you would find a new coord being posted on tumblr on a daily basis. I sold off my VR pieces in mid 2012. Half a year later though, the print fell into oblivion and in 2013 no one wore it anymore.
Even though the print lost its popularity and hype, it still doesn't make me want to have it again. i'll forever associate it with cringeworthy graveyard shoots and clashy gothic ita coords.
>>8671853 They have bad communication and are slow as fuck. Don't expect any quick responses, I've waited for months for orders from there and ended up just giving up and asking for a refund every time.
>>8671840 If it helps you at all, I ordered something from there in like...2013 when the site seemed to be not that active (lots of sold out stuff that had been up there for awhile) and it shipped out to me just fine. I get the feeling that what's on the website now is just leftover stock she's still trying to move.
Is it worth it to sell "lolita" on etsy with all the taobao resellers on there now? >when I say "lolita" I don't actually mean lolita but what you would find in the tag. With questionable fabrics and designs catering to weebs and 3edgy teens
>>8671924 I check it regularly, but have to PM sellers and can't post comments on anything since my join request (from months ago) was never accepted. Whoever the mods are need to step tf up or let someone else be a mod. The sellers I PM'd never PM'd me back, I guess they didn't really want to sell
>>8671910 >12 people That is not a lot actually, when our comm went there for monthly meets the numbers were more like 20-25. And because we took up a lot of room, were a lot to deal with hung out a bit too long, it was clear that it was not really appropriate to continue to do meets like that anymore. They arent going to directly kick you out but you can tell when there is only 1-2 staff that it is a bit much.
>>8671924 It has been dead for a long while now. You are best to use fb for wtb, even if it is easy to get buried people do seem to look out for you and tag people for posts that fulfill their wants.
>>8672213 On the topic of toronto~SO (sorry if it goes a bit off-topic as this question would be probably better on the comm thread), do you think people would be up for a meeting in a theatre or a classical music concert? I'm thinking of proposing the idea after I'm more familiarized with the people from the comm, but I dunno if many would be up for it.
>>8671353 >>8671065 Late reply, but thanks for that. When I stepped back I thought it was pretty selfish to not be understanding of people who paid a shitton for a rarity, but in retrospect, when I pay a lot for a dress (or when I pack up and say "I love this but I hit my limit, I'm not going to buy this even though I'm obsessed") I know exactly what the risk is and that it might get another release down the line.
I think the core of /cgl/ is like this too, just from the general attitudes of the Dream Dress threads, and I really like that.
>>8672336 there's a lot of stuff that's not on lolibrary, honestly. As a non-print and likely older item, you're probably going to have trouble finding the item's name. You might never find it. Just a word of warning, not trying to get you down.
Would someone who bought IW Moonlight Church in Navy and Black mind posting well-lit close-up photos of your print? I just got mine in Wine in the mail and I love it so much I'm almost considering getting other colors since they didn't sell out, but I'm curious to see the color fade details in the other colorways. I can't find well lit detail photos on tumblr or elsewhere.
>>8672533 >>8672528 >>8672538 This is the cringiest shit ive ever seen. Please dont tell me this is common? Just pick one house fro christ sake. If you cant choose, take the fucking pottermore quiz jesus.
Reminds me back in high school anime club the mega weebs who wouldnt socialize with the rest of us, they would just talk about their Inuyasha OCs who were part wolf demon, dog demon, spider demon who also was part human jfc
>>8672560 and now this is reminding me of my days in the HP fandom. that was some scary shit. i'm glad i wasn't one of the active fans and was more of a lurker, heh. i wonder if i would have escaped alive had i not been a lurker.
>>8671065 Exactly. I've been wanting HL for years so when the MTO came up I jumped on it. I know a decent amount of girls in my comm have or are going to purchase it and am I mad? Hell no, I'm amused and happy about it because other people like what I like and I feel like that appreciation is shared. I'm just waiting for a big enough event to pop up so we'll all show up wearing it and we can get a big group picture, scope out co-ords etc etc.
>>8672670 Well, a few people would be probably fun enough already. I guess when I get to know people (barely joined the group and don't know anyone) I'll ask if anyone's interested. Out of curiosity, which events gather more people usually?
>>8672720 Last meet I attended that had a good sized crowd was Beermeet but that was back in March. Did a tour of the Steam whistle brewery, then had dinner at the Amsterdam Brew house. Actually, no I think that was a lie. There was karaoke after a macaron meet. Think that was under 20ish people.
I think for something to attract a good size crowd, it has to be something that a lot of people can enjoy but not be too expensive like the ROM or AGO or something casual-ish. Not to say we don't have stuff like high tea. If it's something people really want and are willing to shell out for, there will be a crowd.
>>8672800 I think in her faq video she said she was going to get busy once school started back up again so we all might have to be patient. lots of people have midterms around this time so I imagine we might not see one for a bit
I received my first pair of AP wristcuffs today, and they're pretty big on me. Is this normal? The only other pair I have are a KL pair, and those are almost too tight. Would it look weird if the wristcuffs can slide around on my arms?
>>8672257 Tbh meetings are better when you can be social, and Toronto is fond of food or drinking stuff. Now I have been to a movie meet up, but really is good if there is more than just the movie to chill after/before. Live theatre and classical music is not only not social but also expensive to do so you are unlikely to get interest. Even 'lolita' stuff like the alice in wonderland ballet doesnt do well for a meet because it isnt good planning wise.
>>8672762 The hard thing and something you cannot change is that meets are successful because of the people who want to go, and so if people see their friends are going it is more likely to be good. Both meets you refer to are made by popular lolitas in the comm, so obviously their friends will flock. It seems a bit clique to state it that way but I know people who only go if they see friends going. The other issue with big numbers is reservations, beermeet required reservations of both the tour and the restaurant well in advance, and a lot of places want a deposit. So in a way crowds are not the best, ideal size I say is around 10-12 people as it is good amount but manageable.
>>8672560 I am a super big HP nerd. Read the series at least 7 times since i first started reading it in 2001. My sister and i grew up on a huge property and use to "play" hogwarts where we would write eachothers hogwarts letters, make and sell wands for wizard money so we could buy ingredients, potions, school supplies, ice had every fucking kind of hardy potter book and candy, know the movies by heart, up to date with pottermore, and before then i was all about the Warner Bros HP website. I'm as fucking nerdy as you can get for HP. I have never heard of a ravenpuff until today and it is the stupetest fucking thing ive ever heard of.
>>8673155 I dont give a shit about socializing with even nerdier people then me online. Im nerd enough as is. I cant handle anyone worse then me. But maybe im just lucky because i know a few HP nerds irl? If we need to geek it out we have eachother. None of the others have heard about that cringe shit until i talked to them today. The only time i really ever socialize with people online is lolita. But lolita relies so much with the online comm. You dont need internet to geek out hard on the HP
>>8672542 I remember when I was young and pretty into harry potter I took that quiz and got slytherin and got really mad because I wanted to be gryiffindor for obvious reasons. I just took it again and got the same result and to be honest I can't even lie that its accurate any more. I used to have a crush on Malfoy anyway.
Has anyone been having problems with chibitenshi lately? I've sent her a few bid requests, each with over a day and a half left but she never gets to them in time and I end up losing out. Can she just not keep up with all the orders?
>>8673593 If that's the case, she should maybe stop taking as many orders or enlist in the help of a friend for a while. I was pretty irritated when she left on vacation without saying anything. She sent me an email saying she had just invoiced me and I had to pay within 8 hours or I wouldn't get my stuff until she came back and I was sleeping so of course I didn't send it in time. I had no idea she was even leaving the country until I woke up to that. I had to find a different ss after that, she used to be great, but now she just seems unorganized.
>>8673590 oh noo, i just had a dream dress pop up too do you think i'll be okay if she has more than a day and a half to win them? i guess she can use my max bid (which ngl is pretty high) but i was hoping to avoid that ugh but once she bids will it automatically outbid anyone else who doesn't meet the highest bid even if she's not around to check?
>>8673653 I have to say, for as great as her reputation has always been, there have been a lot of complaints about her in the past several months. And I know she always has a lot of loyal customers defending her on here but I wonder when enough will be enough or if she'll be able to recover before that happens. I'd hate for her service to get overwhelmed to a tipping point.
>>8674034 Exactly. I remember the same thing happening to other SS (like Mai) and for several months people defended her, sent her extra money for presents and spa days and shit. Eventually she just vanished.
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