Because most well-known photogs get that way through networking and persistence and not through photo quality. This is true of the photo industry as a whole too, 90% of being a pro has nothing to do with actually taking pictures.
Also, there's such a thing as overkill when it comes to lighting at cons. I used to schlep remotes and softboxes around and eventually backed off to a single on-camera speedlight with a lightsphere or whatever it's called, and 90% of the time it was as much as I needed to make successful photos.
A lot of the East Coast cosplay photographers are fucked without all their strobes and shit. Try talking to some of them in person and you'd be amazed at how many of them think white balance and blown highlights are nothing important.
Photographer here. Carrying three strobes, a few lenses, and a few stands is not an issue. What is an issue is restrictions, such as Katsucon where you can not set up a stand.
There are also venue/location restrictions and some places let you take pictures but not flash photography. It's not as crazy on the west coast as it is on the the east coast but there are factors that may just make it slightly harder for a photographer to utilize their equipment without having to pay (a fine or other wise).
An external flash can make a site think you're doing commercial photography. Just to give you an idea on how some locations can be limiting to a photographer's creativity. Some sites may allow flash but require everything to be handheld. Some might have a limit on how many external equipment is allowed.
It's not extremely complicated as I'm trying to put it, but it does sometimes ruin the potential of some shoots and it's not fun.
>>8688030 Who cares if they're good? I said "really shitty career move". How SUCCESSFUL are they? Even if they can pay their bills, how many photographers are out there struggling to get by in comparison? Photography is an art. Do you recommend that people become artists? There's a reason why the "starving artist" stereotype exists.
oh man I didn't realize I thought it was just a photographer group photo and assumed everyone had a camera. Especially since that one girl on the far right is in a costume (albeit very loosely defined costume).
I see so many photographers trying to be famous in the cosplay scene and they're dropping so much cash on fancy equipment and hitting all the cons and its funny because none of that shit will matter in the end. They ain't gonna be famous for real or make fucking money. So many of the new photographers are kids living at home or deadbeat dads who think they'll make money at charging $20-40 a shoot! gimme a fucking break!
You could easily replace the word "photographers" here with "cosplayers" and the entire paragraph still applies.
People in this hobby (especially the younger crowd) are blinded by the "fame" of Jnigs and Yaya and think that they want to be a "professional cosplayer" when they grow up.
The stigma of anyone being "famous" within our convention community is hilarious. We're all losers dressing up in costume or taking photos of losers dressing up in costume. ANYONE thinking they can make a living off this hobby alone is a moron.
>>8689952 Again with the stupid autocorrect! "COSFAME"
>>8689971 The money is eventually there, but most cosplayers won't know how to get it. At best, they may make a few commissions over the course of a year, but they'll still be realistically undercharging on their own labor alone. The same with photographers and their post processing, at least the ones that do it for real and aren't sliding a few bars right and left for a few seconds.
>>8690018 The reason we just slide a few bars around and use the healing bush on some pimples and that's it is because real post-processing takes a good amount of time. It's reserved for paying customers.
>>8690100 I wasn't talking about you then. I was talking about those that do a few seconds of work and then act like they've spent years on perfecting a photo that they are charging for at cons like some of the ones mentioned in the bad photos thread >>8668433
>>8687837 I also see Al/Eurobeat King (white shirt, front and center), Kris Ling/BlizzardTerrak (sunglasses next to the maid), Darkain (holding strap over his eye), and Rollerson (all black with a hat and glasses, next to the big softbox.)
A lot of these guys aren't actually part of the "Cosplay Photographers" group.
Also, lol, Bui's pose behind that Gunbuster cosplayer takes on a whole new meaning knowing what we do now.
>>8687091 >no strobes Who the fuck is going to carry around a strobe? Do you mean external flash? Some have them. Maybe some are just using daylight.
>no diffusers You're not going to get a diffuser worth a shit if it's small enough to use with an external flash, and nobody is going to carry around a large one. Besides, you can bounce an external flash off a wall or ceiling.
>one (kit) EF lens And you know those are kit lenses how? Most 35-50mm lenses are going to look smallish and resemble a kit lens. And who the fuck wants to carry around a ton of lenses? Either use a good zoom, or stick with one lens like a 50mm (maybe two - a 16mm or so for wide-angle shots). Most of us have probably tried a con or two when first starting where we carried a lot of lenses. You learn quickly that shit ain't worth it.
>>8693686 There was someone at a con a couple weeks ago taking photos for something with a camera phone. I didn't hear who he was taking photos for and neither did the cosplayer he took a picture of near me. still fairly shitty!
>>8692817 Right, I'm just saying he's doing cosplay shoots. He's not actually attending any press events. I think very few cosplay photographers actually do those press events at NYC's comic con, but yeah I agree that if he's wearing a press badge from them while at the con, he probably shouldn't charge, but if you don't like it then you should write to the magazine if you find it wrong
>>8698164 This bitch thinks she's a real photographer. I'm still laughing at her shit post about how models don't need to send nude photos to photographers to be hired if a photographer asks for reference photos for nude shoots.
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