>>7026375 >>7026379 I'm a different type of alcoholic. I don't have the physical addiction, but when I drink I cannot stop until I pass out. And I ALWAYS drink to blackout. I drink almost every night. For me it's more psychological reasons that make me start drinking, and the physical reaction makes me keep drinking. Like they say: One drink is too many and 1,000 is not enough.
Give it a few years and you'll realize it's all physical.
Your brain will be shooting ridiculous shit throughout the rest of your body, giving you bad images if you close your eyes, and hands that are so shaky they can barely type, let alone drive a car.
On the other hand, your stomach and whatever important shit on the right side will be telling you that you've poisoned yourself, and we're going to drive knives into your gut for the next few day while all you want to do is have a dt antidote.
>>7026393 I am like you, trying to dry out this year. Drank every night for 8 years to the point of blackout. Never thought I had a physical addiction, could stop cold turkey and no dt's, but then I went dry two months ago, and that giant tarantula above my bed said I was lying to myself.
I've been off work all this week so I've been going on a total bender. I have really bad anxiety so when I got out I have to start slamming shots just to get buzzed enough to be able to socialize. I also haven't been able to keep food down for like 3 days. Thankfully I'm going back to work next week so I can get back into a normal routine and have a reason to stop drinking so much.
>>7026360 I've been an off and on alcoholic. There has been two points in my life (both after bad breakups) where I began drinking daily for months on end. Interestingly. As soon as I got over them. I was able to quit just fine. The second binge episode started around last November and went till this May. Since then I probably only have gotten drunk once or twice a month. But those have also been the only times I've drank. If I'm drinking its to get drunk. Not for the taste.
Having myself a Whiskey Sour right now because It's Friday and I got nothing else to do.
>>7027198 >If you drink daily your an alcoholic. That's just not true at all. >If you have to put conscious effort into abstaining for a week or so your an alcoholic Also, wrong. Don't make the guy feel worse off than he is. If you put conscious effort into abstaining because you don't need the extra calories, you're not an alcoholic.
An alcoholic is someone who misses important life events due to alcohol. When drinking becomes your excuse for other things, you have a problem.
>>7026406 >Your brain will be shooting ridiculous shit throughout the rest of your body, giving you bad images if you close your eyes, and hands that are so shaky they can barely type, let alone drive a car.
I had this in like 3 days of drinking vodka morning-night (mind you I was drinking every other day with 1 week off every now and then for months prior). Drank a 750 mler in a night, woke up and bought more, drank 375ml at work, got another 375 mler and then promised id quit
Never thought id drink at work, let alone that fucking much of vodka (like 5 months ago that'd have knocked me out)
I guess point of this post is how short a duration you need to drink to feel strange withdrawal symptoms and an example of how quickly tolerance builds. Good luck everyone
After the first week of not sleeping or eating and sweating and hallucinating and shaking it's not so hard to keep sober. I just drank for the first time in 3 weeks last night. But there is only an inch left in my 1.75 liter bottle, so I have to go back now. I have to make myself too sick to continue or I can't stop.
>>7027317 Buy this to help you sleep. I finally ate today. I sipped on a fifth and then took this around 2:30 am and I slept until 10am today. Honestly I don't think I would be okay today without sleep
>>7027338 Sounds to me like your trying to justify your own alcoholism. It's called being a functional alcoholic my man. Not all alcoholics miss life events, drink as soon as they wake up, and get shakes and scary hallucinations when they abstain for a few days. Just because your physically able to abstain without physical effects and live a good life doesn't suddenly make you immune. There are different levels of addiction.
Source: I've been an alcoholic for ten years of varying degrees of badness. At my worst I had to be hospitalised for withdrawal, at my best I was dry for a couple months. These days I keep it in check because 100% abstinence is unrealistic but I can still see myself falling back into being a 24/7 drunk if I don't watch it.
>went dry for two weeks this month >since relapse I've been trying to control my drinking Eh, I kind of miss first thing in the morning but at least now I get more shit done. >tfw you know it's only a matter of time before you become a 24/7 drunk again
>>7026360 I got 20 more minutes left at work and I can taste the Canadian Club already. Rainy as fuck in TX today, perfect evening to get comfy and watch some college football while sipping Canadian from a big Styrofoam cup.
I'm also a degenerate gambler, so i have a bet on East Carolina vs. Uconn. Wish me luck lads and cheers
>>7026375 There are different types of alcoholics, I don't really drink that much everyday(6 pack or a 12 pack, depends on how much weed I have) and I take 2-3 day breaks once in a while, but I can't go a week without drinking...it's impossible for me because my anxiety builds up.
I haven't gone a week without drinking in probably 10 years.
>favorite drug back in high school was dxm >body eventually decided to treat it like poison >if i can get it past the gag reflex it's stomach and liver pains through the high >no more cough syrup even years later
Now I just drink vodka, and pass out thinking how fucked my liver must be.
>>7027553 I've started getting a dull ache where my liver is now if I drink. It's only a matter of time before jaundice sets in. I check my sclera whenever I'm hungover/anxious and I keep thinking they are yellow.
Hey guys, I just grabbed some Kraken rum and a 12 pack from the liquor store. I don't often get alcohol for myself to drink at my own leisure at home, but I figured since I don't have plans for Halloween this weekend I can at least get absolutely hammered alone and watch some Horror movies or something.
Anyway, I'm curious as to how I should serve it. Should Black Spiced Rum be served cold or room temperature? I'm not really sure what drinks I'm going to make with it (probably just drink it neat with a soda as chaser or something), but I have no clue whether it should be served cold. Also easy drink ideas would be swell, but thats optional.
I'd be drunk every single night if alcohol didn't have any calories. Alcohol allows me to feel things, allows me to express my feelings and allows me to be "myself" and not the restricted awkward social cripple I usually am.
>>7027676 >I check my sclera whenever I'm hungover/anxious Same. It's very easy to think you are literally dying when you are going through alcohol withdrawal. I had no idea what fear was until my first detox
>>7027719 Same. My body literally rejects alcohol now if I've had too much. I used to drink a fifth daily, now it's once or twice a week and I feel like absolute death the next day and usually vomit soon after waking up
>>7027735 >>7027691 >>7027689 Thanks, I'm enjoying it. I'm more of a whiskey guy personally, but I like the taste so far. Its really chocolaty. I'm not sure how much 1.75 L will last me, but it'll be a good for tonight and tomorrow at least.
Every time I visit these threads someone mentions canadian club? Is it cheapest whisky in USA? How much does it cost and how it compares to for example shitty walker red label taste wise? Out of curiosity I checked prices here in Germany and it goes for 10 euro for 0,7 L, which is not the cheapest (7 euro)
>>7027917 >All your friends think their trap ass niggas >One of them even records and thinks he's a good rapper >They're all white boys in a state university >tfw you drink them under the table every time you go out I'll never understand the recent obsession with being trap
>>7027919 I'm not sure what the best vodka is state-side, but my old roommate was a Russian exchange student who got me a bottle of genuine Russian Vodka after winter break a few years back. Shit was delicious. [spoiler]I day-drank during Valentine's Day alone in my room that year because I was single and it was hysterical.[/spoiler] I'd recommend Grey Goose but what do I know.
While PEGIDA is filled with silly nillies, some points can be agreed on. I mean, what the fuck, man, couple of years ago in school I didn't understand why it was allowed that those muslim girls could wear their hijabs or whatever they're called while people in class were called out for wearing hats. It's utter bullshit. Come to Germany, accept German culture. Don't try to bend it to your liking. DANGIT. I don't go up to Australia and tell them to stop creating all those deadly creatures, it's their thing and I'll leave them at them. And put shrimp on the barbie.
>>7027996 >if you're eating at mcdonald's already, you may as well order a soda Nah.
>>7027997 How's college nancy boy? Proving you're manly enough yet? There's a reason gin is known as the drinker's drink. I don't discriminate, but cheap gin beats the everloving shit out of cheap whiskey or vodka.
>>7028001 so now you're mature enough to appreciate gin, hm? >it's drinker's drink get your head out of bartending manuals and look around in actual bars. you'll notice who orders gins. drinker's drink, jesus almighty, too much literature boy will do you no good. but you'll grow out of that, I promise.
Hey guys, I just turned 21 and have never really drank before. I want to go to a bar, but I don't really know what I'm supposed to do when I get there. What drinks should a beginner who had a rough week get?
not that anon but seriously you just have to distract yourself when you get cravings. i had em bad today.
>"oh you can go walk the dog, the liquor store is 5 minutes away, come on, it's right there, let's go"
I just stood still, closed my eyes and said "no, no, no." Sounds strange but if you say it with intention and belief that you do not want to drink because it causes you more pain than pleasure, it'll work.
then i put on my favorite podcast and left without my wallet to walk my dog.
this will continue to work because i am not physically addicted to alcohol anymore. now i have recurring cravings but they are beatable, and now its later in the night and i don't feel like drinking.
>>7026406 >Your brain will be shooting ridiculous shit throughout the rest of your body, giving you bad images if you close your eyes
This shit has happened to me so many times after a week long binge, at some point I just can't drink anymore and have to face the withdrawal and I can't sleep for at least 3 days and nights and every time I try to I just see completely sick shit like dead people looking through my eyelids right at me and other shit in black and white it's not at all like a dream or a thought but like a real image you see in the darkness of your eyelids or some shit, the best I could describe those images would something like what the video tape in The Ring shows, it's pretty insane.
>>7028888 The videotape in the Ring is the single spoopiest thing I've ever witnessed. Besides that it's a derivative of the Japanese version (though better), I don't know why that movie isn't regaled as a masterpiece of horror. I had trouble sleeping in a dark room with a TV for over a month.
Was nearing end of taper -- parents went on holiday yesterday so ended up sinking 3 bottles of wine before the end of the working day. Just bought a bottle of vodka and some tomato juice to kill the shakes/anxiety. Such is life.
>>7029305 I don't mean drinking as in having a beer or a glass of wine with dinner. I mean drinking 3+ drinks a day solely for the purpose of relaxing, going to sleep, etc, if you do this your probably a low level alcoholic. It isn't a huge deal, it could be much worse. Not all alcoholics are your stereotypical drunk ass pounding vodka with their morning coffee and driving around all day with an open beer in the car. It's a sliding scale.
>>7030057 Sorry for the miscommunication, I didn't want to get too wordy. By my standards having a beer or wine to accompany a meal doesn't constitute "drinking", as it is done to compliment the meal. IMO " drinking" is drinking some form of alcohol mainly for its intoxicating effects. I'm not looking to argue semantics here, my point was that if you sit around and drink a few beers after work 7 days a week your probably a low level alcoholic, and you are still probably completely fine at that level because alcoholism isn't concrete, its a sliding scale. Alcoholism in itself isn't even the problem, the issue comes with how it personally effects your own life, health, and bank account.
>>7030057 >If you don't mean that, don't say it. >if you drink daily
Hey you pedantic faggot im sure you say to your buds "lets go to the bar and drink enough alcohol to get extremely intoxicated and have funny discussions and cause minor mischief" instead of "lets go drinking"
Had a few stints of sobriety over the past year or so. The anxiety is the biatch tho. Honestly doesn't seem to get better after a week or so, even if physical stuff does. Hell, even longer than that.. 2-3 weeks. Still feel like an alchy. Think the longest I've gone (over the past 8 or so years) is 90-ish days.. Man I was not OK. Still. Does it get any better?!
I'm basically nuts and I accept that. I just wish I could live without this shit. Cos from here it's a downward spiral only. Plus society (UK) totally normalises this shite, too. Grim.
Anyways, off to pour another one. Might try and score some benzos and actually fucking sort my shit.
>>7030587 I didn't feel great after quiting for about as long as you did, but I was physically dependent and its still a relief knowing I can start back up and quit again now without having seizures. I plan on seeing a psychologist as soon as I get my shit figured out and get insurance. I can be sober now but I still have the urge to drink. It isn't always so bad that I can't ignore it but it never went away.
>>7028773 Grab a beer if that's your thing. You could always order a vodka and tonic which is a classic. I like manhattans a lot, but they can be a bit strong since it's entirely alcohol. You can get a jack and coke which is easy to drink and is a staple at most bars. Enjoy the experience man, I do love sitting at a bar and meeting new people and having some drinks.
Know what you want before you go in there though, don't ask the bartender for suggestions. That's pretty nooby. Cheers!
>>7030919 Idk, I just think it's a good way to possibly get ripped off if you don't know anything about booze. It would depend entirely on the bar I think, but from the tone in his post, he seems a little anxious about the whole experience, so I would think that a little research and being prepared would be better than asking the bartender.
>>7030919 Not him but if the bartender is an asshole dude he'll give him something ridiculous so he can get sick and "be a man". Or he'll just sell him something stupid expensive and complicated he just learned so he can show off. If the bartender is a woman I guarantee she's a lazy slut who makes her money from flirt and cleavage tips. She'll just lean forward with a can of beer and give you a glimpse into her bra if she wears one.
Any benzo and booze. Alprazolam and vodka, need to be carfull though1mg to much, or too hevay on he vodka and you wake up 3 days later, in a different state, possibly in jail for murders that you have know clue you committed.
>>7033662 literally sons of the devil, killing themselves, defiling their God given bodies as a tribute to satan, their whole life revolves around pain and eventual death... a life lived in vain, such is the fate of the nonbelievers. No drunkard shall enter in to kingdom of heaven.
>drink 250-350ml of expensive vodka >hangover as hell the next day and usually vomiting since morning >drink twice as much the cheapest black rum or bourbon I can find >absolutely no hangover explain this shit. isn't vodka supposed to give the least hangover?
My relationship is shit and my debt is north of 30k but my kids love me and >as i have said before you can make $11/handle vodka taste like premium with the addition of a healthy dose of lime juice, and it never fails me
I got up at 7AM today which is great for me but of course we had to have a few screaming matches, this woman simply will not stop trying to make me someone I'm not.
I pull down $105k/yr and work from home and she's on the rag 110% of the time because I can't drink less than i do.
>bitch I'll go fucking crazy if I can't drink, it's all i got left that does exactly what it says on the box
>seriously, buy some cheap vodka and add some lime juice prepare to be amazed
>>7037449 >>7037604 HAHAHAHAHAHAA oh wait you're serious HAHAHAHAHAHAAJ AHAHAHAHJ. fucking faggots wouldnt have this problem if you were good at sex, like even a little bit. It seriously blows my mind that men who make 4× plus a year than me cant get a woman like mine. Hell she aint even straight, im just that good. smhfam. Forreal.
>>7037635 I don't think you get it. I don't want kids, I don't want a woman in my house seven days a week. I'm good at sex and like to have it once a week, and I often need a female accomplice for professional and social events. It isn't that I have to pay women to have sex with me, I am paying to have a public and private female companion without having to deal with the downsides like children or fighting. I pay them to show up sober and act professional. Lots of professional athletes do the same.
>>7028773 Best way would be to start at home, buy a smallish bottle of a decent vodka (tito's, ketel one, etc.) and some cranberry juice. add ice, 1 shot glass of vodka and about 5 oz of cranberry juice. (really just enough cranberry juice to where you can barely taste the vodka)
Once you get a taste for the booze, work from there. try new things and enjoy them. IMHO whisky/scotch are some of the hardest things to pick up as a new drinker, stick to white liquors and everything should be ok
>Be 29 >No kids >Dating girl (27) for 5 years >Have good, but very stressful job >Own own house >Girlfriend works 5:00AM to 1:30PM, I work 2:30PM to 11:00PM and she's always sleeping when I get home >Drink whiskey while reviewing things for work or for my MBA class in management while she sleeps >Lately started talking to myself after day of drinking when alone. >Be taking shower after day of drinking, forgot girlfriend had the day off and was sleeping in our bed (I sleep on couch to not wake her). >Be thinking about how my day is going to go with my head on the wall as the warm water goes down my back. >"shit!" For some reason I have a weird memory of something embarrassing I did in high school and yell this out. >Think nothing of it >"Fuck" same thing happens 5 minutes later where I have another weird memory from my past and yell out something random. Girlfriend walks in the bathroom "You ok anon?" >"Yeah, I"m ok I just got soap in my eyes." Fast forward a week later. >Laying in bed after a day of drinking waiting for my GF to get done taking her makeup off so we can go to sleep. >Reading 4Chan/ESPN, another outburst of random swearing. >Girlfriend comes in and asks what's wrong. "Nothing sweetie, the (local NFL team) might not have their running back for Sunday's game.
Think to myself of crap, I might have drank so much that I'm having mini seizures or something.
Laying off the booze for the new couple of weeks to see if that is the cause.
Feels bad man, think the girlfriend is starting to notice
If I know I'm going to be serving it to anyone else my cheap vodka is Seagram's.
Skol might taste a bit like rubbing alcohol (as I've been told by people I've served it to, including an ex-chef I worked under), but the couple of times I'd tried fleischmann's it was unbearable, like someone dumped ammonia into rubbing alcohol.
Was drinking a fifth of bourbon every night for a few months. Moved to two 6-packs of ~7% beer every night for a couple months currently. Drinking bourbon tonight, but I have portioned it out so I can (lol) only drink a bit over half a fifth tonight. Gonna try to keep it down to 4 nights per week instead of 7. And no more power drinking (drinking for more than 8 hours). Not really alc, sorry, just a drunk.
>>7038053 More info: >44 yo >dick hasn't been working properly some nights. >GF that I see once a week hasn't had a good ride for 2 weeks now. >pretty sure it's alc related >really hope it's alc related
I'm used to 4 hour sessions, not 0 hour sessions. Fingers still work...
So at what point do we have to think about cutting down?
I am currently going through a half bottle of gin and a few strong beers every night. The thing is, I feel fine the next day and it isn't effecting my physically I don't think.
I am starting to think that is a lot, and finding when I am drinking it has less of an effect. I know I should probably cut down but because of the lack of adverse effects I am finding it very hard to motivate myself to.
>>7038065 Well, I'm not sure if it's the cymbalta. Started taking that too. It really seems random though. Some nights I can't ... I mean it just isn't happening. Other nights... the opposite. Can't figure it out. Got some pill samples from the doc, but they're expensive. And I don't want to need them. Anyways, pen15 isn't really food related so I'll stop.
>>7030587 The anxiety might be an underlying problem which your self medicating with alcohol. I'd seriously discourage benzos because that can be a very nasty addiction and often cause more problems than they fix. Short term they can help yea. But if your buying them yourself and self medicating you're playing with fire. I'd suggest just trying over time to cut your drinking down to a reasonable level and try to have a few days a week off eventually.
>>7039241 I don't go out alone because I don't want females ruining my evening and trying to pry their way into my life, which is perfectly fine right now. I pay professionals to play "girlfriend", or be a proper escort.
For what it's worth I'm a professional athlete. I doubt anyone here knows me because I'm not Peyton Manning tier, and I don't even play football. But people act obnoxious when they figure out who I am, especially females. No I don't want to marry you, buy you a car, or even invite you over.
>>7039605 >The only reason they don't hold their noses in Russia is because they're playing hardman. Why would anyone hold their nose when drinking, unless they are 12 or are in a movie and want to put emphasis on the bad smell/taste?
>>7027908 Canadian Club near me is like $10.99 for 750 ml. It's better than any other cheap whiskeys in my opinion. Canadian whiskeys by law need to be aged for at least 3 years, so CC is much smoother than cheap American whiskeys
I've been drinking for like 5 days straight now, and I'm at the point now where it's not even getting me drunk, I just need to be sipping on a beer constantly to feel "normal" and make sure the shakes and massive anxiety don't set in. I'm feeling like a true /alck/ at this point
>I'm hanging in there. Work's actually relatively slow tonight, but with a couple of major school projects hanging over my head, my stress is going up.
I fucking hate dreading school assignments. The only thing that gets me through it is the week long or so reprieve from them when I can just enjoy myself freely until I have to suffer through more of that bullshit.
>>7030587 If you're still getting the anxiety after that long I would tell your doctor and see if they can prescribe you something called buspirone. It's an anti anxiety medication but it's not harmful and if you ever need to get off there are virtually no side effects to quitting.
It's not super strong like a benzo, but it's a lot safer and it does help curb the anxiety and cravings. That's what my doctor gave me and it has definitely helped.
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