What is your opinion of white chefs who claim authenticity for stupid reasons like "durp i lived in X country for years"?
It is extremely common for chefs to study in other countries. And it's not just the white or the American ones. Cooking as we know it only exists because of the movement of ideas and techniques across national borders.
I think it's fair to assume "I lived in X country for years" also includes a fair amount of learning to cook from the locals. If you're a cook, and you lived in China for 10 years, I expect at least some of the time you'll have had a job in a Chinese kitchen.
People seriously care about this? As long as they aren't smug about it who cares. Almost everything is based off of a handful of core styles anyway. Shit I'm white and love to cook Indian food. Today I was joking about someday opening an Indian restaurant called The Blue Raja...
Girlfriend is fresh off the boat Chinese (Szechuan) we take turns cooking 3-4 times a week. I learn her recipes and try my skills on one of my nights to cook. She thinks it's better than hers.
Never been to China but I can cook better Chinese food than a Chinese chick.
It's pretty hard to just disregard Creeper Bayless as a leading expert in Mexican cooking. He's proven himself over and over for the past 30 years. It'd be like disregarding James Beard or Julia Child or Jaques Pepin. You'd deserve a right smack for it.
Living in X country doesn't mean a hell of a whole lot if you don't venture out of your ethnic/cultural enclave. I know this from experience.
See, I have an uncle who owns an Italian restaraunt in Shanghai. He's been there for just a little over a decade. Nonetheless, I doubt he knows anything about Chinese cuisine other than how to modify Italian dishes to suit Chinese tastes.
If they make the food well I have high opinions of them. Especially Bayless. I don't really see what the problem is. A person who studied a foreign language for 4 years in high school, then 4 years in college, and then spent several years in a country that speaks it is just as qualified to speak it as any native born person.
Also, I don't like brown people touching my food so I honestly prefer it
Mexican American here
Honestly bayless cooks better Mexican than most Mexicans
Remember too that there are white Mexicans, I don't think they'd take well to your implication that they're not real Mexicans because blonde
Immigration was what made Mexican cuisine world class, and most of those immigrants were from Europe or the whiter parts of the middle East
this one is a notorious bitch. thought she knew better then pepin in french cooking? L M A O
If they were so fuckin' good then they wouldn't need to be stupid celebrities or on tv like that faggit ass bourdain on cnn.
CNN and Fox can't even get their facts straight, with this speaker of the house thing going on, they kept saying, both channels, that the speaker of the house is third in line.
That simply wrong, the speaker of the house is second in line. It really makes one wonder about the talking heads on both sides when they can't get simple facts straight.
I worked for Andy for a few months in Portland at the original Pok Pok/Whisky Soda Lounge location. Say what you want, but the man does Thai food as well as anything I've had in Thailand.
There are more locations?
I went to college in PDX when it was just a shack in a parking lot, and last time I visited WSL had just opened (fucking line for Pok Pok so just ate there).
Now I just bought his cookbook, right after moving from an area full of SE Asian markets...
how is this racist? are there no italian restaurants in china? are there no irish pubs in germany? have you not made another culture's cuisine in your own kitchen?
welcome to the modern world
Because he spent a decade banging Thai trannies, watched them cook his breakfast the next morning, taking notes, and then opened up a successful restaurant franchise that started with a chicken shack in a parking lot in Portland?
Seriously though, does he now have a show like Chang or something? I think I've only seen maybe a 2 minute interview and have no recollection of him coming off in any way offending.
Problematic. Cultural appropriation includes cuisine and denies minority chefs a chance at success and representing their own culture.
Yes. Locations in NY and LA now, I think. I haven't been to the one here in LA, yet, but that's largely because Thai Town is just another couple miles away and boasts equivalently authentic food for half the price and a quarter the hipster.
Exactly what culture is that? Pants half down, saying yo yo yo, and being morons? Great culture ya got there.
Somehow unless it's MTV nobody is going to watch that and the few people that do aren't buying any products sold by the commercials, they're stealing shit.
reminds of me
>if a foreigner can come into the country and do your job cheaper you deserve to lose your job to them
well, if a chef can come into your country for a few years and cook your food better than you can to the point that people would rather give him money to cook it then you deserve to have your culture appropriated
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Depends how good their food is. A dude that lived in Thailand for 8 months that blows the pants off Thai chefs has every right to brag. Some twat that went bamboo for 20 years and still can't fried rice can fuck off.