>>7044299 Because they're not native, they came across a land bridge thousands of years ago. Calling them native is great for them though, they can suck the government for money like the parasites that they are.
>>7044310 It wasn't an intricate as most other cuisines in terms of tech, but there was still a lot when it came to unique techniques and flavors.
It was a cuisine of game meat, turkey, and seafood, very often smoked in some way or another, often by soaking wooden boards, pinning fish or strips of meat to it and cooking it at the edge of a bonfire. squash, beans and hominy were staple foods, but so were wild vegetation such as ramps, mushrooms, wild garlic and mustard, dandelions, nuts and seeds (such as sunflower seeds), berries, tomatoes, peppers, and more. A lot of the wild spices still exist but are no longer commonly cooked with in the US, such as rosehips an sumac. Maple sugar was a primary sweetener.
The problem is, a lot of these foods have been forgotten and replaced with garbage like frybread, which wasn't a native dish at all until they were all banished to reservations and forced to life on donated flour and corn oil
>>7044299 head to a place like new mexico that still has a bunch of tribes. in that particular instance, it's basically a bastardization of tex-mex.
also you could probably do that pretty easily. eat a fair amount of squash and other gourds, chestnuts, acorns, fish, poultry, small game (or bison if you're going for the plains indjins) and potatoes.
>>7044299 You generally need an infrastructure in order to form a cuisine. That said, there are things like mate from south america and you can just google up the whole wiki page dedicated to north american native cuisine.
Apparently Succotash, chili and cornbread originated in native north america.
As far as why don't they have a modern restaurant cuisine, you could easily attribute that to the fact that they're an impossibly small minority and have reservations in which to hide from the white man. Even if they did make NA cuisine it would be comprised entirely of 1/2 gag food and 1/2 food we assume to be whitebread american food already.
Because they were like extremely simple stone age foods that never had the chance to develop from trade and new ingredients from Yurope and were mostly just squash, beans, and corn and wild game like buffalo and rabbit which are harder to come by these days. They didn't have as many spices or salt or anything because the tribes were constantly at war with each other and didn't have enough periods of peace to establish trade routes so everything was extremely simple and boring. Nowawdays modern native american cuisine involves ripping off more successful cuisines that managed to take advantage of the ingredients from Yurope like cajun, mexican/hispanic, southern bbq/tex-mex, and spanish cuisines. If anything you can think of modern American food and fry bread as being the end result of Native American cuisine today because they never really had a time to play around with the new ingredients and spices isolated on their own.
Most of the produce used to make native american cuisine died out and weren't even that popular due to the amount of effort needed to farm them like preparing acorn meal vs wheat/rice/corn meals or were farmed into something superior today like corn vs maize.
>>7044395 So you're really stupid enough to keep calling it native when it's not? You know the people that were here in the Americas came over a land bridge thousands of years ago from what's now known as siberia to what's now known as alaska. That does not make them native you stupid fucking hoar.
Cause America stole everything worth stealing from them today and made it 'American' cuisine like cedar planked salmon and succatash. Only thing they have adopted fully is fry bread made from white devil ingredients (white wheat flour and oil/lard) which normal people didn't usually make because they had more options and food than them and that was their literal only option as they went on the trail of tears. Nowadays native american cuisine is just calling gumbo native american cause you used some hipster ingredient like sassafras leaves when it was really just gumbo file or making shit out of acorns.
>>7044415 Shut up cunt, we didn't steal anything. Maybe you should shut up and learn another language since apparently English was stolen too and you wouldn't want to soil yourself on an American message board you hypocrite cunt.
>>7044446 I don't even get your argument. Sure, you might say native Americans aren't native because they didn't originate there. That also means everyone living in Europe, Asia, Australia and most parts of Africa also aren't native. Which, sure, you can define native that way. But why?
>>7044478 Not even the same anon, man. I just want to know how much hand sanitizer cut with mountain dew you have left. I know this might be hard for you to understand, but no one gives a shit about the natives. All they are nowadays are drunken rapists and woman beaters. Come to think of it, not that different from before, either. I will concede firewater didn't help the minds of the native though. I'm running out of my own firewater, Smallarrow Acorns lost, so how much hooch do you have left?
Welcome to Le Chet, today may I reccomend our Native American special?
>starter:shredded lottery ticket salad with a nice spit chewing tobacco dressing >main: heroin and corn soufle garnished with white guilt >desert:your sisterdaughter's 2 week old coathanger aborted fetus And I recommend a nice listerine wine pairing for it all.
I am a full blooded Cherokee and I gotta admit that nothing is more gay than trying to respect my culture and convince my kids that all this Native shit is cool and fun. Gimme a handle of scotch and a burger.
One, it is. Navajo flatbreads are a thing in the desert SW. They're basically naan.
Two, I actually tried an authentic mutton stew on the res once. It was one of the worst things I've ever paid money for. Imagine the toughest, gamiest shit you can think of, boil it for a few hours, then add a couple turnips, onion and not nearly enough salt.
>>7044299 >Their lands were stolen Implying that no native american tribe ever forced anyone else off their property. Survival of the fittest is/was a thing and the tribes lost. I have respect for their culture but bitching about how america was stolen from them is complete non-sense
>>7044943 I'm 110% Indian you white bread mayo sandwich. My great-grandpa was raping and sodomizing all of your women and there was nothing you could do about it. The only reason we lost all our land is because we were too busy giving the stick to your great grandmas. Ain't hard to compare to tiny white boy mongrel cock.
>>7044959 You're the one who needs to learn what really happened between the white man and my people. Your knowledge of Indian culture and history begins and ends with that commercial of the dude crying when some cracker litters
Americans don't have history or culture. It's just a degenerated version of European culture. The only hope you people had of retaining any unique culture that could have contributed anything of note to the world died with the natives. Congrats.
>>7044992 They literally are..literally. If your kids are fortunate enough to have a device to listen to music then I dare you to go and see what's on it. Let me tell you, it's either American or someone from your shithole country pretending to be a nigger.
>>7044348 >wow, seriously, fuck off to /pol/ you are literally worse than maggoty garbage. How fucking dare you attempt to reproduce Why is it that "progressives" and those conforming to these idiotic tropes repeat the same social darwinist and eugenic ideas but in reverse?
>>7044373 You have no idea what you're talking about.
There were trade routes from Maine to Mexico, the spread of such "staple crops" was due solely to this trade route.
Humans collect around water-- water means salt, fish, and the ability to trade along the water's edge. Land routes were entirely possible given no natural obstacles (mountain ranges, namely).
By the time our Puritan ancestors got here with their families, up to 70% of the indigenous population had already died. The first few meetings were fatal-- the TRADE ROUTES carried disease much farther than where the European boats landed.
They all had regional differences in cooking and what wild vegetation could be incorporated into daily life. There's onions that grow wild everywhere near Tennessee, there's a weed here in Florida and Georgia that tastes like pepper. There may have been a few places that kept it spartan with their food, but there is no reason to assume there was overt "simplicity".
Reservations and Missions were pretty effective at wiping a lot of Native American food culture out. I only know of a few dishes and themes off the top of my head that survived those circumstances, though I am sure there is a lot I am ignorant of. It's not completely dead, but sorting through the histories and deciding what is traditional and what is a result of various other influences can be daunting. Succotash, which would be a variant on the three sisters theme is around here and there, but it is often more of an inspired thing than a traditional thing. Traditional soup, stew, porridge, and dumpling sorts of preparations like Tanshpashofa lead directly into contemporary Mexican and some southern traditional foods, like tamales, grits, and pozole. Along the same lines, a lot of Mexican and SW dishes share similar elements of more traditional Native American flavor profiles and techniques if you are not referring strictly to Native American cultures originating in the U.S.
>>7045693 Native Americans used a lot of native herbal plants in both normal consumption and in medicinal applications. I don't mean to imply that it would fit right along modern restaurant food, but it was far from devoid of flavor. Quite a few of these plants were completely or nearly wiped out due to over harvesting and many that still grow wild are now protected.
>>7044310 Actually, Native American preservation techniques were incredibly complicated. And in primitive, pre-refrigeration cultures, half of cooking is just preservation anyway.
Anyway, we don't eat Native American food for the same reason why don't eat Colonial American food. No one knows how to do it anymore, and while it probably wasn't devoid of flavor, the focus was more survival than culinary art. A talented chef might take a dish and get creative with it, but you'll never see the real thing on your plate.
>>7044299 Try actually looking for it. I've had it in a few places in Alberta and it was ok. The buffalo was really good (but I'm just a big fan of buffalo overall) and so was the deer (had it five or six different ways). The vegetables from native cooking is pretty terrible though. The meat is some of my favorite from any cuisine. If you like dried or smokey meats you will love it. It's not popular because it's not very good. The only thing that is good enough to go is the dried meats.
The funny thing about this thread is that people keep saying "native american" first off, not native, second as if all the different tribes were one. Some of them were seriously violent fuckers going around scalping each other and shit way before they could blame the "evil europeans" for their problems. Those great "natives" gave us the gift of syphilis as a thank you for civilizing them.
>>7044299 Because the food varies WILDLY by tribe. Great plains natives ate a ton of dried meats (like jerkies). Coastal tribes ate a lot more seafood and smoked their meat (but not quite like jerky of the plains). Southern tribes resemble more traditional mexican cuisine (when I say traditional I mean old-school like aztec level food). It varies wildly and the spices and techniques change a lot.
Also generally they are pretty bad for a dining experience due to their nature. Some of it is great travel food though.
>>7044299 Native American cuisine? The relevant elements have worked their way into the foods of the Americas. That's as far as it's going to go, because most food people love requires salt, and Native Americans didn't use it.
>>7044952 They didn't believe in land ownership. Notice how the North American tribes got fucked over worse than anyone but they don't constantly bitch and moan about reparations n oppression n sheeeit. They don't give a fuck. They accepted their fate at the hands of a superior group. And besides, they started it by killing European explorers and settlers.
>>7046680 >They don't give a fuck >They accepted their fate These are two very different things, anon >they started it by killing European explorers and settlers. History is written by the victors, anon.
>>7046683 >implying Why the fuck would colonists who could barely keep themselves from starving go out of their way to make war with the natives who vastly outnumbered them?
There was sporadic fighting when we first got here, obviously. Then everyone calmed down. But then the fucking timber niggers decided they would rather kill women and children and burn houses than be peaceful
People who say indians were peaceful are fucking retarded. They didn't invent scalping and war dances when the Europeans got here, you know. They killed each other all the time. I feel no remorse for my ancestors conquering shit skins playing in the dirt who hadn't even mastered the wheel
>>7047012 "The Indians" wasn't the name of a nation-state.
Some groups had a beef with the settlers, and some didn't. There were misunderstandings on both sides, and when you have much better weapons than the other guy, there's not much incentive to go through all the trouble of talking things through when you can just assume the worst and shoot everyone. Especially considering that in the bloodiest parts of the fight, the guys doing the negotiation were professional soldiers, not professional diplomats.
I myself benefited from the bloodshed, because a different kind of europeans settled in the area where my people ended up. A lot of horrors happened, the first wave of european newcomers fled, and my ancestors showed up and either because they were oblivious or because they didn't give a fuck, they settled there and made it their new home.
Why can't you discuss facts without involving your emotions and your struggle with your own white guilt? This conflict was already settled by the time your great grandparents were born.
There are people alive today who personally fought in wars who can discuss those same wars with a cleaner head than you have right now, talking about things that took place in the 1600s through the 1800s. Get a hold of yourself, anon. History must seem like a very boring subject to you, if everything is so clear cut as you make it out to be.
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