>She has no idea. If I had a blacklight, this place would look like a Jackson Pollock painting.
>That dude there. I need his prosthetic leg.
>Well I wasn't listening then, I was thinking about something else.
>I don't see how that's a party
I don't know what it is, it's just so by the numbers.
Puny god and adopted are basically the same joke in that
>Oh ha ha, you thought this conversation would go THIS way, but it TOTALLY DIDN'T
You weren't rolling in the aisles, laughing, when Clark went to church and talked about how he had to give himself up to save all of humanity, in front of a strained glass window of Jesus?
I was fucking dying.
>>*pulls bad guy's pants down with web*
I must be 6, because that dif make me gigglein the cinema.
I suppose it's mostly due to Giamatti' ridiculous expressions.
The "party" joke scene in Avengers would have worked better if Natasha didn't say the one-liner. It would've worked better with just Tony saying his line, turning the corner, giant Leviathan monster behind him. It could've been a visual gag.
>It's not enough that we have console wars between DC and Marvel
itt, we make shit up.
He has a point. I know it's the new hot shit, but way too many people are making too many threads gushing over it without actually discussing it. You can only take "LOL REMEMBER THIS SCENE?!!1 SO AWESOME AMIRITE?" for so long.
So it's still cool to be ragging on Whedon right now? How much longer until Age of Ultron until we start acting like we're the odd guys out who like him and start ragging on Gunn? I really need to keep up better with /co/ trends.
I really wish Guardians weren't connected to the rest of the Marvel universe. I know that's where half the ticket revenue directly came from, but I would be so much more confident in the property if I knew it didn't half to revolve around Tony Stark and Thor's faggot antics on Earth.
Guardians should be able to tell whatever stories it wants, not kowtow to fifteen other movies.
My entire point was there are no "console wars" between DC and Marvel here because unlike /v/, nobody is obligated to take sides and invest several hundred dollars into one thing.
It's usually some dude trying to force it.
Oh,if you're sick f praise, you should check out /tv/ then, complaining about Guardians being pleb-tier for console-babbies and fishing for butthurt has become one of the new hot topics.
>So it's still cool to be ragging on Whedon right now?
Welcome to 2007 /tv/. Probably earlier.
Eh I think the issue is not different sense of humour but GotG tried to be more serious and less funny yet had some really funny moments. Where as the Avengers comes off as trying to be funny/witty. Like Whedon stuff. I have nothing against him. I like his stuff. I like the Avengers. But I don't know. One tries harder and fails more than the other.
/co/ was in love with him not too long ago. People were praising him for having Avengers be a good comic film that wasn't trying to be serious and actually did what it set out to do. Now people are mocking him like mad here. It's a fad, and it will go away after Age of Ultron. Everyone will act like they were never the anons saying these things now and have always loved him and his writing. happens all the fucking time.
fun fact, /co/ just buys whatever they want and it's entirely possible to keep track of both.
Stop making shit up and being contrarian, it's why /tv/ and /v/ are in the state they are now.
If anything, Whedon praise is the fad. Whedon hate has been the default here for years. Even when Avengers was getting praise there were still a lot of people criticizing the dialogue and Whedon's tendency to give everyone the same speech style.
GotG felt more.... I dunno. Authentic I guess? Like everything had a purpose.
Whereas Avengers just felt like Whedon's general style. It fits well enough but it's just an accessory.
Since the day Avengers was released, the overwhelming consensus was "wow, that was actually coherent and not complete garbage" and "BRAVO JOSS". There wasn't much praise involved.
People have been criticizing his writing since Buffy. Don't make bullshit where there is none.
People aren't disagreeing with you just to be dicks, they just don't agree with your perception. If anything, your statements are the contrarian ones, and you're the one taking this into pointless polarise arguing. You're becoming the thing you hate, anon.
Yeah, I'd hate it if they ever got to meet (on the movies, I mean). Hell, I'd hate it if villains from GotG got to fight the superheroes from MCU. I didn't see GotG as a superhero movie, they were two completely different genres, and, for the most part, I completely ignored the fact that it all was supposed to happen on the same universe. Being aware of that feels weird.
From the trailers I thought GotG would be goofy as fuck. But everything sorta did fit it. Authentic is a good word to describe it.
Where as tonally Avengers.. was that witty Whedon style. And it is alright but not fantastic.
I was against them meeting too until another anon pointed out how funny the initial fight scene between them would be. The Avengers are all about getting knocked down and then uniting as a well-oiled machine. The GotG contrast this, being a team of weirdos that work relatively well together but constantly fuck up their plans and have to improvise on the spot.
>I was against them meeting too until another anon pointed out how funny the initial fight scene between them would be.
But that's where the fun ends. It's just a few minutes of fanfic-tier action, maybe three or four times they play off each other, and then just a slog of bullshit that devalues all of their stories.
There's a reason Alien vs. Predator was awful.
There were some humorous moments for me.
>The little bucket scene.
>Superman not believing Pete Ross is at the shop.
>Perry and Lombard exchanging looks while Lois is macking Superman.
>Zod's deadpan "Yes" to genocide.
I don't see what that has to do with this. It was the single most hamfisted attempt at religious symbolism in film, ever.
Hell, Spider-Man 2'ss crucifixation by train was more subtle.
>Oh ha ha, you thought this conversation would go THIS way, but it TOTALLY DIDN'T
better than 50% of all humor is reversals of expectation, take your stick out of your ass
now if you want to grouse that everyone talks the same way, that's fair
Would it really be much of a fight, though? Drax didn't seem anywhere near as strong as Thor even without his crazy lightning powers, and he was probably the toughest straight-up brawler on the team.
When you watch Avengers in a theater for the first time with an audience, it's hilarious.
For the sixtieth time home alone, the humor gets really fucking annoying. Most of the Cap lines, some Clintasha lines, the only bareable ones are Stark's, Fury's, and some of Banner's
Rumor has it you can expect more of the same in Batman v Superman.
What really blew me away though was that from what I hear there was no lead up time to the announcement for Batman v Superman. Apparently when they announced it at Comic-Con it was only days after the execs at WB had decided to do it. Like someone said "oh, so what are we doing for Comic-Con next week? Uh how about a Batman and Superman film? Sure go with it"
Gunn might be funnier than Whedon but I think Gunn's pretty weak in the action department. All the fights were pretty generic and unimpressive. Even Avengers had some really cool action moments.
True enough, for all their grit and "dark tone" they still maintained a sort of dry sense of humor that is perfectly suited to Batman.
I think Warners learned the wrong lesson from the Nolan Bat-films and the result is going to be a series of dreary, grim, overly serious superhero movies.
It's settled then.
Gunn handles the humor, the Russo brothers handle the choreography, and they team up for the sentimental moments.
>PETER TAKE MY HAND
>I DIDN'T ASK TO BE MADE
>I'm with you to the end of the line
>On your left
>now if you want to grouse that everyone talks the same way, that's fair
Yeah, this is what I wanted to get at too.
The characters are all so different but they're all capable of banter on the same level. At least Gunn recognized that in an intergalactic setting some saying and mannerisms were bound to go over someone's head.
This is something I really dislike about him. All of his characters are the same variation of snark, snarking back and forth at each other, even if they've got no god damn reason to. It really comes across as a writer trying to prove he's funny with oh-so-witty one liners, whereas Gunn's humour in GotG was more character driven.
At least she can write, Gunn added his flavoring but it was still her. Can't say the same for the people behind Thor films, TDW went through ten writers (most uncredited because of rewrites cancelling out their work)
Funniest line in the MCU so far was Thor's buddy saying "It's as if they resent being in prison!' during Kurse's prison riot. I don't know why but I fucking lost my shit hard, that was completely unexpected.
This is how he defended Storms lightning/toad line in X-Men (one of the few things from Whedon's attempted rewrite that were kept in). He basically meant for the line to be delivered in the usual slippant, sassy tone that all of his lines are delivered... nevermind that Storm isn't the kind of character that would deliver a line like that. So no matter how it was delivered, it would've been a bad line.
It bothers me that this movie will never have its own mythos. There's always going to be the same asgard, thor and loki, avengers bullshit overshadowing anything they could come up with. It's sort of awkward, like, what happens on the Iron Man 3 (why didn't the others come to help?)
Really, the MCU is a mess of genres molded into a barely understandable arc. While it's bearable, it's sort of annoying.
I doubt that could happen anytime soon. I mean, maybe they'd let him do some side stories that aren't part of the main narrative, but right now Feige is more likely wanting to push out Phase 3.
Maybe there could be actual one-shots that are just one-shots, and actually film length.
Feige also said he's done signing people for ridiculously long contracts. He said he's far more interested in 3 film contracts now. Probably got tired of the Avengers cast bitching about not getting their dough.
I doubt they can strike gold like they did with rdj and sebastian stan has about as much star appeal as a old bag of dead cum.
hopefully they work something out, depends how ant man and the rest of the upcoming movies go.
>It bothers me that this movie will never have its own mythos.
you are both right and wrong. whilst it will be in the same universe with asgard and midgard and what have you, the cosmic aspect of the marvel universe is a sub-universe in of itself. hell, cosmic marvel has been a dumping ground for a lot of "weirder" ideas for the writers at marvel
Unrelenting seriousness does a disservice to Superman as a character.
It's not out of place. Tony says "I'm bringing the party to you" literally right before she says that.
Why wouldn't she say it? She's not a serious character. She plays the straight man to herself so she can get a laugh by doing something wacky, though it is usually physical butt whooping comedy.
GoTG2 will likely also be untouched by Earth Antics.
It's going to be Avengers 3 when they're dragged to Earth to fight Thanos where shit will get bad.
Fuck, I retroactively like Avengers less now for calling dibs on Thanos.
Because /co/ tends to blow tiny things out of proportion when it involves muh characters. It was funny. Sure, Widow doesn't usually do that sort of humor, but she was clearly just responding to what Tony said on a humorous manner. It was just a little joke.. you know, like people do when they're in dire situations?
Also because /co/ has a serious hateboner for Whedon, even they've liked, or haven't watched, everything he's ever done.