Spider-Man is back on the Marvel Payroll Thread #2
Footnotes and clarity:
>Under the deal, the new Spider-Man will first appear in a Marvel film from Marvel's Cinematic Universe (MCU). Sony Pictures will thereafter release the next installment of its $4 billion Spider-Man franchise, on July 28, 2017, in a film that will be co-produced by Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel and Amy Pascal, who oversaw the franchise launch for the studio 13 years ago. Together, they will collaborate on a new creative direction for the web slinger. Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films.
>Marvel and Sony Pictures are also exploring opportunities to integrate characters from the MCU into future Spider-Man films.
>As part of the revamp, the new Spider-Man will first appear in a Marvel film. The companies are not revealing details but that movie is likely to be Captain America: Civil War; the character was a major player in the comics storyline. Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.
>Four future instalments in the Marvel Cinematic Universe have received new release dates through 2019, including Thor’s next solo adventure as well as the first films for Black Panther, Captain Marvel and the Inhumans!
>Marvel’s “Thor: Ragnarok” will hit theaters November 3, 2017. The following year, Marvel’s “Black Panther” will make its way to theaters on July 6, 2018, and Marvel’s “Captain Marvel” on November 2, 2018. Finally, Marvel’s “Inhumans” will now debut in theaters July 12, 2019.
>The previously announced dates for Marvel’s “Avengers: Infinity War Part 1” and “Avengers: Infinity War Part 2” on May 4, 2018 and May 3, 2019, respectively, remain unchanged.
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>Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.
Why should I be happy about this?
Amazing Spider-Man 2 wasn't that bad, and now that Marvel is getting Spidey back they're going to shove his 'new' movies in our face when they begin production.
Which will mean more people will read the current Spider-Man comics, meaning Dan Slott is on them for even longer. They'll also milk the shit out of him, and I just can't say I'm all too pleased with Spidey on Avengers. He works better solo.
I disagree, I would love to see a Miles Morales adapted from the comics. About as interesting as current Amazing anyway. Fuck Spider-Verse was much worse than current Miles.
Miles isn't perfect but it's the best comic Spider-Man currently being printed.
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU READ SPIDEY IN MCU CONFIRMED? INITIAL REACTIONS?
Best Spidey after-credit tease is actually not showing Spidey, but some JJJ scene about how all that happened in AoU was the fault of this new MASKED MENACE!
>PARKER! GET ME PICUTRES OF SPIDER-MAN!
It'll be fun to see the how people will try and defend the ASM movies now, especially 2.
Expect 300% more "Well sure it was a clusterfuck with no plot, no actual villain central to the story and no character arc with tonal whiplash so bad it could snap Gwen Stacy's neck, but at least it's not an MCU movie!"
Also something something interesting failure over bland MCU something something.
>tfw Maguire and Garfield fused together looks like a perfect Peter Parker
>tfw he does not exist and won't be cast as MCU Spidey
>Marvel gets Spider-Man for multi-movie deal
>FOX and WB surely shitting bricks right about now
That would be retarded. Why waste a chance for Miles when 9/10 people don't give a shit what the cape's name is all their care about is the costume.
I'm not talking about Spider-Verse Miles though. Spider-Verse is just Spider murder porn when it should have been one big fuck yeah Spiders event.
They are just killing Spiders to make the Inheritors look bad ass which is shit writing. Deal with it.
The only news I care about is who's gonna play Spiderman, if It's Drake Bell I might see the new Sony movie since he really needs the cash, Same with if it's an actor I like. If they just get an unknown though I'll probably skip it and wait till it hits Netflix.
To be honest I don't think Spider-man being in MCU Civil War is good from a story telling perspective. Well, the revealing his identity part.
I don't think that scene and plotline would have that much of an impact as it would if THIS incarnation of Spider-man already had an established character/story behind him.
This is the first time we will be introduced to this Spider-Man. Will audiences be able to comprehend the gravity or significance of Peter's reveal? This Peter who we have never seen before? We know only, what, an hour of information about (if that)?
I think it would have been better to at least have one stand alone "new" Spider-man movie before Civil War.
If it was the other way around, if they were jobbing completely, then you'd be complaining they aren't threatening enough.
Spiders that have no chance for another book are dying, be glad they at least got featured in SOMETHING other than fade into permanent obscurity.
I guess Spider-man confirmed for Infinity War then.
Logan Lerman is close
Fuck off. Any other choice but Grant is retarded. Die.
fuck off with your bieber clone
>yfw Rick will never play Flash
I hope that the new Spiderman Movie is a Prequel to Civil War. They should begin with the News footage and how all of it lead to this point of his reveal and then Peter should tell his Story how he became Spiderman, how he meet Fury and Ironman, what he did in the Battle for New York and the Ultron incident. And Civil War out of his Perspective. It should be like Forrest Gump with Spiderman.
>yfw integrated into MCU because of Reed Richards bending dimensions or whatever
>Captain Marvel and Inhumans delayed
>more time to force them on comics
Marvel will cockblock them. Fox has to pay them to make movies first.
I'm amazed that people defend the boring-ass Interstellar knockoff trailer as a sign the movie will be good, and that it was better than the Ant-Man trailer.
Holy tuck Marvel REALLY wanted Spidey n MCU because this is the most one sided deal ever.
Sny holds the rights.
Sony gains the profits.
Sony has creative control.
JUST so Marvel can make a movie.
Basically free movie for Sony.
Because Sony knows how much Marvel wants him back. Having complete control prior to this deal was ALL the leverage Sony had. It was either "give us complete control or you continue to never have Spider-man in MCU".
There are continuous threads in the 100s about shitty webcomics that upload once a week on this board.
This gets a 2nd sticky because otherwise you'd get 500 threads about it.
Make dealings and go talk about something else.
>and Amy Pascal, who oversaw the franchise launch for the studio 13 years ago
What? And oversaw ASM and ASM2 and just got taken out of the CEO spot. Fucking wow.
>With an opinion like that you must eat cock.
>Fake philosophical narration.
>Shots ripped off of Nolan.
>Minimal use of superpowers.
>Boring Negative Zone.
>The "big shot" is just the four of them staring blankly at the giant beam of light from Halo 3.
>They actively try to make the movie look as generic as possible.
Literally the only reason people are defending it is because it didn't look as awful as people were expecting.
kek, do you even spiderman?
spiderman makes tons of money in merchandise and if there is a successful movie there will be even more.
the biggest plus though is that Avi Arad is gone.
What's stopping Sony to do a shit movie afterwards? Seriously I just want good movies i don't care about cinematic universes, although deeply enjoy them, what if Sony make a complete mess like Amazing Spiderman again?
Lizard is an undercooked mess of a villain and the "Ben's killer' storyline is downright terrible. The action is really boring outside of the school sequence and that crane sequence is fucking retarded, even more so then the "YOU MESS WIT ONE OF UZ" scene from the RaimiMan movies.
I know there's going to be a lot of "HURR RAIMI FANBOY" shit, but I was honestly excited for this movie. SM3 proved we needed new blood and getting an indie director like Webb seemed like a good idea, also with a genuinely great cast. But they fucked up every aspect to make it a franchise-builder instead of an actual movie. it's the worst example since Iron Man 2, only to be topped by ASM2. It's a nothing movie, it's a fucking glorified TV pilot and it's practically shot like one. Webb's direction was amateur hour workmanlike crap.
It's better then ASM2 and SM3, but it's not good.
The interview the director gave where he was talking about going with an approach similar to "The Fly" is more a reason why people "defend it" (not that a movie that isn't even out yet needs to be defended).
I'm genuinely curious, it should be different from other cape films, which in itself is kind of a good thing.
For all the butthurt of "not muh FF", I honestly wouldn't mind seeing this guy remake the fly and call it FF. I somehow doubt that's what Fox let him do, but still, it would at least be interesting.
I don't think they *want* to do a shit movie, and it will be co-produced by "Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel". Which is not a guarantee of a great film either but there you go.
People are going to discuss it today, as they wake up and hear about it. Would you rather have it contained to one sticky on the very front page, or a dozen of the same "This happened, holy shit" threads at once?
>and that crane sequence is fucking retarded, even more so then the "YOU MESS WIT ONE OF UZ" scene from the RaimiMan movies.
Seriously. At least the Raimi film had the 9/11 excuse
There have been five Spider-Man movies, even considering the fact that it'll be a new continuity everyone already knows what the deal with Spider-Man is.
It's like how they don't need to explain that Batman is hardcore about protecting Gotham in BvS, they've been over this enough times.
Kojima can do that all on his own, thank you very much.
I disagree. The storyline was solid, and I enjoyed the Lizard. I also liked the character progression and how Uncle Ben's killer factored in it. The action scenes were entertaining enough, and I actually love the crane scene. Probably my favorite swing yet in all five movies.
And it wasn't really trying to build a franchise as much as it was setting up the Green Goblin, before Sony intervened and cut half the plot in half. The parents subplot wad originally a one-off.
I never said anything about origin story. I don't want another origin story. It's about character development. Yes this is still Spider-man, but it's a NEW Spider-man.
There needs to be some character building before you drop a massive twist like Civil War on a character. That moment "worked" (debatable) in the comics because of all the history behind the character. This new Spider-man won't have that.
Lets say for argument's sake that Black Panther remains in Civil War instead of Spider-Man. T'Challa reveals his identity to the world in the movie. Would you care?
Exactly. That scene is campy and silly, but within the cultural context of he time it's forgivable. Also it does sort of feel like something out of the Ditko/Lee Spider-Man era, which is what the lifeblood of that first film was made up of.
That crane sequence is a campy moment in a film that's going for Nolan-esque serious drama. It had no place in the rest of the movie.
Because all of them have been better then the Webb films. I don't give a shit if Marvel, Fox, or even fucking WB owns Peter at this point. Hell, sell it to Archibald the Hobo King for all I care, but Sony has shown nothing but complete and utter incompetence with the ASM franchise and the leaked documents only bear that out even more.
Now we have someone other then the fucking monkeys at Sony overseeing the project. That's all I want.
SONY owns the movie rights to Spidey, so they can release a movie like that and Marvel cant do anything about it.
What they are doing is lending the character over and with good will and cooperation continue to make Spidey movies in the MCU continuity. Hell, they might just add the amazing series as background already.
It was a genuine question you prick. IM was good and TWS was passable but rest was below average are outright terrible.
ok, when you put it like that, it makes more sense.
the swinging is great, all the webslinging in TASM/2 is fucking orgasmic, and TASM as the added bonus of much of it being real.
but "my kid was saved, I gotta help spidey!!1" nah, fuck that bullshit.
i hated it in 2012, I hated it in 2004, and I hated it in 2002
its fucking dumb.
>Hell, they might just add the amazing series as background already.
ITS CONFIRMED TO BE A NEW SPIDER-MAN
why is this hard for people to fucking understand when it's been laid out already?
Well I didn't say anything about origin either. I'm saying people are already familiar enough with the character that they don't need to see a whole movie to understand why it's a big deal.
But despite that I don't think they should or will reveal his identity because it's the first movie and they'd have to One More Day it immediately.
Wait, how would we react if the first MCU Spidey movie was actually One More Day?
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Why would they use Miles Morales when they already have Peter Parker, wouldn't it make more sense to use Peter until said actor's contract runs out in which they replace him with Miles?
I can taste those delicious tears of ASM fags who said Sony and Marvel will never make a deal and that ASM 3 will happen and Garfield>Tobey
Glad I still dont have to watch ASM2 after the abomination that was ASM1
Isn't there a matter of "first appearance " or something like that, tough? Like, Deaht head appeared first in the Marvel continuity, before becoming a recuring vilain in the Transformers Marvel comic so that MArvel can claim it is a Marvel character and not a Transformers character.
By appearing in the MCU first, Couldn't Marvel claim that iteration of Spiderman belong to them and if they think Sony disrespec that iteration of Spiderman, they can go "no, fuck, this isn't our Spider Man, Sony is like, tottaly a different Spiderman than Mine Spiderman and Sony can't play with my other toys anymore". or something like that?
Are you all ready for peter to be and already established street level hero and dieing in the first movie he appears in and then getting replaced by miles
>Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.
Probably for the best.
For all its (many) faults, the ASM series pretty much ran on the strength of Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone's chemistry. There's a reason why they cut the MJ scenes out of ASM2 when there was all that other bloat they could've picked. With her character dead, ASM3 would've sputtered.
Unless they did some sort of riff on the Clone Saga, like when they brought Gwen back as Ultimate Carnage, but there's way too many ways for that sort of plot to go wrong.
I just wish they'd do a little side character stuff. I want to see Pete be all Archie Andrews with MJ and Deb Whitman while blowing off steam by pranking Flash after JJJ has chewed him out for shitty pics. I wasnt a TSSM movie, I guess
>make more sense to use Peter until said actor's contract runs out in which they replace him with Miles?
Usually studio contracts involving multi picture deal are not mutually binding, meaning studios usually can opt out of the contract but the actor cannot (like in the case of Terrence Howard with IM 2)
Sony very likely has no legal obligation to continue using Garfield. Marvel has already made their dislike of Garfield known so its very likely we get a new person as Spider-Man
I have no idea why anyone would want Miles. As a fan of Ultimate Spider-man, I've been immensely disappointed with Miles; He doesn't even have his own plotline! All his stories were the loose ends cribbed from Peter Parker...Until they outright brought Peter Parker back!
So far, his storylines involved:
1.) Being bitten by another spider, similar to the one that created Peter Parker.
2.) Becoming Spider-man in order to take up Peter's legacy.
3.) Dealing with Venom, a creature created by Peter's father.
5.) Fighting Norman Osborn, Peter Parker's nemesis. (And dealing with Peter returning to life.)
Even Bendis couldn't make Miles interesting. He has, what, his supervillain uncle? (Whom he killed.) His dad, a former SHIELD agent?
Uh...Norman Osborn being obsessed with Miles, too? What does Miles have going for him, besides the Venom Blast?
Miles is never going to happen the same way a Kamala Khan movie isn't going to happen. And it has nothing to do with race, as much as people claim otherwise.
They're both too new. They barely have a consistent supporting cast, unique rogues gallery or iconic story arcs to their name. There's nothing to work with in either case for a set of movies, they're un-molded characters.
We honestly have a better chance of getting a 2099 Spidery movie then a Miles Morales movie. And as much as my dick would get rock hard at that idea, that's also never going to happen either.
I'll give you my quick and dirty, probably WRONG, opinion:
People on /co/ shit on IM3, but I got to see it opening night for free and it was a fucking blast. Loved every second of it. I get people complaining about the lack of Iron Man, the over saturation of the suits at the end, and the fire powers people, but the movies' main appeal has always been RDJ's Stark, and this was by far the best of the IM movies to for that.
Captain America was okay. This is probably about the baseline of what people mean by "bland MCU films." I'd probably place it on par with ASM, if not a little better. Not exactly making a hard list here, though.
Avengers was fun to watch at the time, but I've only seen it once and will admit the critique it gets around here is probably accurate for the most part. It was probably mostly the hype from the preceeding movies. I distinctly remember being a little annoyed at how all the characters, regardless of their personalities, ended up quipping and being WHEDON characters even back then.
GotG was every Avengers was trying to be, but better. It managed to do an ensemble movie with having 5 movies to set up the characters before hand. It also managed to be a fun movie without falling into the "everyone talks like a Whedon character" banter of Avengers and actually had some moving moments. It's the only movie aside from IM1 I've seen twice, in theaters no less, and I'd easily see it again. There are good reasons it took off like it did and blew ASM2 out of the water domestically (though not overall).
Aside from that, both Thor movies were pretty forgettable aside from a few amusing scenes. It's pretty obvious Loki stole the show in Thor 1 and Avengers and so they squeezed him into Thor 2. Never seen the Incredible Hulk, probably never going too. I might see a Mark Ruffalo Hulk film, or even just "Stark and Banner's Wild Science Adventure." Looking forward to seeing what happens with the Hulk in AoU.
>Marvel and Sony Pictures are also exploring opportunities to integrate characters from the MCU into future Spider-Man films.
Marvel won't lend any of his toy with Sony if Sony doesn't play with Spidey the way he want it. And then Sony will have to play with Marvel's toy also the way he want it or he is taking them back.
All in all, though, the majority of the Hype can be summed us by the MCU being THE Marvel universe representation on the big screen. Spider-Man being a part of that is a big thing.
We've had Marvel movies for years, but the MCU is the one that brings all this stuff together and has at least a consistent ability to put at passable at worst and great at best movies that don't just shit the bed.
>I distinctly remember being a little annoyed at how all the characters, regardless of their personalities, ended up quipping and being WHEDON characters even back then.
I really never get that critique. Not seeing it at all.
The only thing I can think of is to prevent the pages from destroying browsers and computers.
Remember what happened to that /a/ thread that moot posted in during his goodbye? It took MINUTES to load that thing.
But didnt some people wanted a mature spidey? I know choosing Tobey again will probably not happen, but a man can dream
If they go with Miles I prefer Gambino a thousand times over a guy as Jaden Smith or some shit like that
Hope we get a real Venom out of this, or at least someone that hasn't been done like Kraven or Mysterio.
I'm getting sick and tired of you pushy niggers.
When the time comes to cast a childhood favorite you're all lobbying for Basketball-Americans to get the role because "muh diversity", "enough with the white men named Chris"...
Fuck you self centred cunts.
What about Asians or Hispanics? Natives or Eastern European? You've already got War Machine, Falcon, Heimdal, and Luke Cage and Black Panther coming up.
Think of someone else for once you damned dirty apes.
Spiders that were well liked were brutally murdered by shit OC characters in the worst way possible.
To play up beyond shitty spider-people that NO ONE FUCKING CARES ABOUT!
Killing off fucking spiderman and his amazing friends will not make anyone like fucking spock silk kain or flash venom AT ALL. They are damned to obscurity and will carry the weight of being the REASON that so many good spider charcters that people like had to fucking die. No one outside of comics knows or fucking cares about those faggots and from their horrible fucking sales and total lack of fucking appreciation from anyone outside of shills no one gives a fuck amongst the degenerate comic addicted masochistic geeks either.
This event is a fucking failure and I'll be goddamned if I ever fucking buy or purchase or watch another spiderman event after this.
I even fucking stood by and watched OMD go down and the subsequent retardation that followed go down.
This is it.
I can't do it anymore.
I'm fucking done.
Comic spiderman is dead to me.
>Avengers was fun to watch at the time, but I've only seen it once and will admit the critique it gets around here is probably accurate for the most part. It was probably mostly the hype from the preceeding movies. I distinctly remember being a little annoyed at how all the characters, regardless of their personalities, ended up quipping and being WHEDON characters even back then.
Not the guy you're answering to but I didn't watch it till like 2013 after /co/ was saying how shit it was, and I ended up pleasantly surprised. It's really not as shit as people make it out to be.
Thor's "he's adopted" line sticks out. It's sort of out of place, considering how big a part Loki being Thor's brother, no qualifiers, is to Thor's character in both his films.
Black Widow's "I don't see how that's a party" also comes to mind, but it my just be the ways Scarlett Johansson voiced it. It sounded incredibly off.
It's honestly been awhile since I saw it, so that's all I can remember. And it's really not the worst Whedon thing when it comes to this, I know that. Maybe /co/'s just rubbed off on me. I liked the banter, but I still kind of recalled it being a bit much.
Captain America's "I understood that reference" is actually a nice, in character joke, showing off how dopey of a guy he still is in the modern world.
I miss the salivating space stalker.
Squeezed was perhaps the wrong word, I certainly didn't mind it and it didn't stick out editing-wise.
But it's still well known they went back and shot additional Loki scenes to get that sweet Hiddleston press.
They twins in the avengers are supposed to be gypsies. They aren't.
And god knows the gypsies need a good rolemodel in media.
I have not heard a fucking peep out of you fucking people about that.
Only that you don't want a character to be played by a black person.
You disgust me.
>Thor, Panther, Marvel, and Inhumans pushed back for Spider-Man
Why? Couldn't they have put it in early 2017 where they had nothing? Now they've likely got to re-evalutate the story for those movies, besides Thor, now that they all take place after Infinity War.
I'm fine with the Whedoning of the characters in the Avengers movies. Even looking at it from the comic book perspective, big team-up stories always have the complexities of the individual characters shaved off to serve the taste of the writers style.
I also wish people would stop saying "hurr you mean Iron Man the Movie guest-starring the Avengers" when you'd basically have to be legally blind and deaf to think that's true, but that's clearly not going to happen.
Marvel is the rich Kid who has almost all the toys.
Sony is the poor kid who has just one toy the rich kid doesn't have but would like to.
So, if Sony want to play with all the toys the rich kid has, he has to play by the rich kid's rules, even for his own toy.
As much as he probably loves playing Barry I'm sure he wouldn't think twice if Marvel came along offering him the chance to play their biggest superhero in a multimillion dollar movie franchise.
>tfw we'll get Evans Cap and Spidey in the same movie
>tfw Spidey will be a Cap fanboy
This day is amazing, /co/.
Oh no, I still regard it fondly. I actually loved the banter, but I'm also not as tired of Whedon as others might be. Really all I've seen of him is Firefly, and the movie, and that one episode of Buffy where Seth Green fucks the other werewolf chick. And the musical, I guess.
I should really rewatch Avengers to get all refreshed on it.
Considering Spider-Man is Marvel's flagship character, yeah, it's really a big thing.
It would be like if DC had an established shared movie universe with no Superman in it. It would feel weirdly empty.
Each of those lines still fit the characters and the context. They are funny on their own and don't really bring contradictions. Even in Avengers itself, we still get to see the strong relationship between Thor and Loki.
>Black Widow's "I don't see how that's a party" also comes to mind
My take on it has always been that everyone has started to make banters and she isn't on the page. She is like, what the fuck are you all talking about. She is a professional who doesn't kid when she does her job and she can't encompass anyone would make a crack during a moment like this.
The joke is that the joke is flying over her head.
They start filming in April and I'm pretty sure they had 2 scripts in case the Spidey deal would work.
Black Panther will probably have just a cameo now and Spidey will take his place.
Miles Morales can be done, you just need to explain he was bitten by the same spider (like Silk, without the Bride mary sue shit), but instead of going out with his powers like peter, he tries to continue his life normally, studying and going to school, until he is forced out.
It's not that difficult to have both of them, just slightly different than the canons.
>The joke is that the joke is flying over her head.
BW "I don't see how that's a party"
Cap "Heh" and smiles at her.
BW Looks at him and goes "What" in a really serious manner
Cap looks at her gives a look realizes she wasn't making a joke and then says "okay"
Cue the rest of the movie .
I'm kinda wishing for Sinister Six to be their debut. Like, Peter is already an established crime-fighter who thwarted plans of a couple of villains and now they're out for payback. You don't need much of a setup for this, a couple of short flashbacks and hints could answer any question about them. Most people could recognize characters like Mysterio, Doc Ock, Kraven, maybe Sandman, so you don't need to explain too much stuff and dwell in their origins.
And when Peter kicks their asses, they can make way for the SUPERIOR Sinister Six. Yes or yes?
>Be spidey fan for almost two decades
> First movie not bad, with power ranger goblin and everything
>Second movie has freaking Doc Ock all over, my pants are wet
>"Third will be good!"
>Third shits all over the place
>"aw man... maybe next time"
>The Amazing Spider-man in production
>"hey, the kid kindda looks like Peter i guess, maybe it will be good"
>"maybe now... maybe..."
>it sucks harder than ever
>lose all hope
>Marvel gets the web head back
>"Oh God, please, don't play with my feelings anymore"
>pants gettign wet again
I Anyway, i wonder who will be the villain...
Being the best Spider-Man comic in print at this time really isn't saying much.
Nigga has done fuck all out of Pete's shadow in what, 2-3 years?
>Miles isn't perfect but it's the best comic Spider-Man currently being printed
>Being the best Spider-Man comic in print at this time really isn't saying much.
It doesn't sound like you're talking about Spider-Man 2099 there, anons.
Imagine the team ups potential.
I dont give a shit about anything else. ALL I FUCKING WANT IS THIS
FUCK DID I JUST COME IN MY UNDERWEAR JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man really glad he did Whiplash cause this could make him an asset in both MCU and Sony standalone
So let me get this straight
Spidey will most likely first show up in Infinity War Part 1
And the first time he gets a standalone movie will be after Part 2? After the climax of almost 10 years of Avengers hype?
Can't they write him in Civil War instead of Black Panther and try to squish a movie out before Part 1?
JJJ (played by JK Simmons) would make perfect sense in MCU cause spidey would be like the only prominent masked hero and JJJ could be like why ids spidey the only faget who wears the mask. Whats he got to hide?
A JJJ origin subplot either in the movie or AOS would also be pretty good explaining his phobia of masked men
>implying it will be an origin story
If anything it will be more like the script James Cameron had written before Raimi's movies.
Yeah but no Batman would probably actually improve a shared universe sometimes story-wise, whereas Spidey pretty much always works with other characters.
But then you're not wrong in saying it may divert some ressources and attention (it kind of already is) from lesser known franchises.
>Still I'm not sure how Spider-man will fit in
I'm not sure what you aren't sure of exactly. Have you read comics featuring Spider-Man and the Avengers?
I swear to fucking god if that story about scarlet witch basically resetting time at the end of avengers 2 through bullshit comic powers is real...
the entire fucking cinematic universe will be in danger of being shat on by EVERYONE.
No movie after that will EVER be able to have even a single moment of tension and nothing will ever have weight or meaning again.
If it isnt Miles it would make perfect sense not to do an origin story again
They could do the opening credit montage in the standalone, there is already precedence with TIH for this
Not quite, anon.
First film is in 2017, but he'll show up in a Marvel made MCU (this is gonna get confusing, especially if they work out a similar deal with Fox for F4) before then. Most likely what this anon said: >>69376346
>The Academy Award nominee didn't go into extreme detail about how he's been making deals with Sony and figuring out his return, but did instead offer, "I just heard that we…that’s a possibility."
>The radio host followed up by asking if Simmons would grab the opportunity if it were presented to him, and the actor responded in the very positive affirmative, saying, "Absolutely."
I'M SO HARD RIGHT NOW!
>Walks up to on the street after the fight at the end of Spider-Man 3
>"I know it was you"
>Next morning Peter picks up the Bugle off his porch
>Front page reads
SPIDER-MAN: ONE MORE DAY
BP will be fine given that they've already cast him, he's black and it is know part of the Infinity War bridge. Inhumans is the one that looks it has been demoted to Ant-Man tier.
>all that schedule reshuffling to accommodate for BUT MUH SPIDEY
I knew this would happen
I fucking knew it
fuk u sony
>This is your glorious leader Kim Jong-Un speaking.
>My plan to hack Sony in order to force them to reach a deal with Marvel has worked.
>Spider-Man is back where he belongs
>To show your gratitude, send lots of money, weapons and food to North Korea. Actually forget the food, money and weapons are more important.
>ALL HAIL KOREA
Inhumans is especially weird, i thought having Captain Marvel and Inhumans between the two Infinity War movies would mean they'd be almost post apocalypse, like Thanos kicks everyones ass and then these two stories start up in the ruins, probably to do with resurrecting the original Avengers team and gathering EVERYONE for part 2.
Now it looks kind of inconsequential after the big bads been dealt with, I dunno.
... if F4 fails as hard as ASM2, which is still pretty possible, not completely shitty trailer aside?
Admittedly, Fox is investing much less in it than Sony did in ASM2, but if it flops or even under-performs and kills F4 for another few years, again, it's quite possible they'll try to work out a deal with Marvel to salvage something from the wreckage.
>Inhumans is the one that looks it has been demoted to Ant-Man tier.
Fucking GOOD. They deserve it.
I'm still not sure why they can't just flip Inhumans and IW2 around. Why leave Inhumans to trail in the dust of the big Avengers film, when you could put it before it to build hype?
They haven't even started filming part 1 yet, so maybe the schedule will get switched up a bit more.
>Someone mentions not wanting Miles
>a few fans defend 1/3 posts
>Someone mentions possibly liking Miles
>everyone clamours to mention some SJW, diversity quota, stop stealing my white heroes shite
I want /pol/ to leave /co/ forever
>no one has posted his dream spiderguy yet
I heard, Andrew Garfield LOVES Lasagna and HATES mondays. I wonder if thats the reason hes no longer Spiderman.
>your face when you might actually decide to watch a Marvel film now
Damn, that would be awesome!
>I'll put a bullet in your face
>Last guys you fought were super dudes?
>Even better, you must be one hell of a target!
Mysterio was the first villain i came in contact with as a kid so i have asoft spot for him, but i can see your point, back in SMII they really massed Ock in the comics after the movie was released. On the other hand i'm curious to how they would show a "master of special effects" in a marvel movie, could generate some hilarious meta jokes, plus, they would finally make Mysterio action figures.
>little hints of Spider-Man being in the film
>after credits scene is JK Simmons as JJJ yelling about wanting that "masked freak" caught and being suspicious of the only hero with a mask
>shot of the new Peter Parker in the room too
Would you be okay with this?
They don't even have to change the date of Part 1. They could leave that there, and then still have Part 2 cap off the wave. Especially since Inhumans and IW2 are coming out, like, 2 months apart.
But I guess we'll see. 2019 is a long ways off yet.
Dude, I'm not /pol/ one bit, I'd be fine with a Miles or even a black Peter, but it isn't happening.
Execs will not make the most money-making superhero on earth, their biggest brand, hinge on international audiences liking a black guy as Spidey.
>. if F4 fails as hard as ASM2,
Funny thing is ASM2 didnt exactly fail, it just didnt succeed as much as they wanted it to
It feels like Fox and Marvel have too much bad blood to work things out like that
Sony and Marvel already had a pretty great relationship, Marvel working with Sony and letting them retain control of it is pretty good evidence of that. All actions by Sony towards marvel have proved their good faith to Marvel
Marvel will sure as hell wont give Fox shit like that after so much bad blood has passed. marvel has an alternative character for every marvel character that Fox owns. Fox has no leverage at all, they lost it when they refused to share galactus and SS when they had the chance
>hes no longer Spiderman.
I actually think Garfield is the best possible choice for Spiderman, he was just put in two mediocre to bad movies and that wasn't really his fault.
This. Garfield was miles better than Toby but was thrown two fucking awful scripts. There were a few actually genuine Spidey moments in TASM while Toby just felt forced through his trilogy.
>Twitter last night
>Miles Morales trending
>Fucking Brian Bendis retweeting shit about Miles being the new Spider-Man, telling everyone to buy the first trade on Amazon
>The press release says clear as day: Peter Parker
Is he a scumbag or just desperate?
We should probably do this here and not polute the board,
Let me just get perfect adult Pete out of the way.
Honestly, I'd be more than fine with this. This is Peter to me. I'd even ignore the rage I usually feel when Peter is portrayed with blue eyes.
>Sony has owned the feature rights to Spider-Man since 1999, when Marvel sold the comic book heroine for $7 million.
>Sony has creative control.
Sony has veto powers, allegedly. I doubt it though.
I personally think the creative control is just to save face. And even if they do have the final say, Sony doesn't see the need to intervene unless the films keep bombing. Their goal is to make money, Sony doesn't care about Spiderman's brand. On the other hand Marvel cares about Spiderman's brand. Sony would be stupid to micromanage Marvel, it would defeat the purpose of the team-up. They want Marvel to write the stories, no point stopping them from doing what you hire them to do.
>How do they have a good relationship again?
1. Sony returned GR rights immediately after GR 2 released even though they had a lot of time to retain it. Sony returned since they knew they werent gonna use it anyway hence showing good faith to Marvel
2. Sony was collaborating with Marvel on other projects like some animation movies etc building further rapport with them
3. After SM 3 when deadline for SM4 was looming, Sony handed over practically every Spidey rights except for the live action movies in return of gaining an extension to make the ASM series. Marvel really got the sweeter deal out of this. Even though Marvel could have easily gained spidey rights before ASM was even made (had they not given the extension)
4. They were willing to work together on showing Oscorp tower in Avengers to honor a common CGI design employee but unfortunately couldnt finish it due to deadlines
These are just from top of my head, there are lot more instances where Sony and Marvel showed how good the relationship between them was
All I want is for Jameson to be a huge Captain America mark, while constantly shitting on Peter. Then have that moment when he actually meets Steve and Cap gives him one of his disappointed dad lectures.
You mean the book where they fucking texted back and forth the entire time?
> Come on Miles.
> No Uncle Bad Guy.
> Think about it.
> I'll tell your dad your secret.
>Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.
I want it.
I want the role. I have some acting experience and I've been thinking about going full time with it but playing Peter Parker would be the absolute best. I'd rock the fuck out of that role.
I'm a skinny dude with brown hair and blue eyes.
No i know he won't appear since Marvel already said Peter. Fuck even I would see it as a bad move without something proper in place to prerequisite it but people vehemently feel the need to kill other people's hype for no real reason other than "I personally don't like him".
>HURRR LET'S HAVE A MOVIE ABOUT A TERRIBLE STORY THAT RELIES ON UNESTABLISHED CHARACTERS
I mean if you want your shitty Spider-verse, you got to fucking establish Kaine and Ben. And many, many other characters.
True enough. All that has to happen, though, is that F4 fails to gain enough traction to continue as a franchise.
After a third failure, are they gonna stick it out for another decade or so and try again at the last minute a fourth time, or are they gonna try to make a deal like Sony just did? The Sony deal even technically has Sony still as the movie rights holder, they're just working with Marvel to make it part of the MCU. Fox could do something similar: still keep the rights, but Marvel get's to put them in their films and is basically top dog for the universe, even if Fox can veto stuff specific to the F4 and related properties.
Admittedly, Fox and Marvel's relationship is not as rosy.
But the idea is still that cape movies now are all about Franchise, for better or worse. If F4 does well, Fox will greenlight more. If it doesn't do well enough, what then? Same situation as Sony. ASM2 was supposed to launch a universe to rival the MCU and failed abysmally to do that in every conceivable way, even though the individual film itself was not a total flop.
>There won't be a scene in which Captain America and Iron Man literally fight over Spider-Man in NY
>Spider-Man won't intervene by swinging into cap and slinging cap's shield into Iron Man's armour, before giving a speech about how
with great power comes great responsibility
N-no? Did I say that? Or did I simply express my desire for them to not try and turn one of the biggest, worst, and most convoluted clusterfucks of a story into a movie?
The first time Spider-Man had an opportunity to join the Avengers was Amazing Spider-Man Annual 3. The team wanted to test him first by getting him to catch The Hulk. He ran off without listening to them explain thinking they wanted to imprison the green monster. After learning about Bruce Banner he let The Hulk escape and went back to the Avengers to turn them down, because he thought what they were doing was cruel when they really just wanted to help Banner find a cure for himself.
Just wait until you see the technology that'll be out in 2019 and beyond.
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By the time you're 65 you'll probably look 35 and have an extremely mild healing factor. Oh, and the idea of privacy will be out of the fucking door. And, you'll probably be a lot more intelligent as well. And...the word job will be a joke. Welcome to the future...
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Different dynamics. For all the love i have for peter, hes a young man taking on a big responsibility. Miles is a kid, who shouldnt even see those responsibilities hes undertaking. hes constantly being dismissed for being a kid (cap, fury), and still taking the shot.
The character has potentisl, exactly for the same reasons you dont like him. Not my fault Bendis is too slow to come this point across in his comics.
>Fucking blows my mind that Universal still holds the rights for him yet hasn't done anything with it and never will. Why the fuck did they even buy it?
Google informed me that Marvel holds the film rights but not the distribution rights. So Universal CAN'T make a Namor film anymore, but Marvel can't make one either until Universal is the distributor.
However, since we are going to have a Marvel spiderman film distributed by Sony, this might not be as much of a problem as we thought. Guess the issue is Universal is not on good terms with Marvel compared to Sony.
I...I can actually see them doing that. On the fence about it myself, but it doesn't seem like an impossible casting decision on their part.
Dude, spiderman was taking out guys that would have been able to solo not just cap but the entire avengers and the third reich while broke caring for his sick aunt and having JJJ and all of newyork including cap shitting on him in most cotinuites.
He's been doing it longer is better at it and didn't have everyone kissing his ass for no reason other then he's awesome.
Not only that, he's like 3 years younger then cap.
Him asking him that bullshit instead of just empathizing with him and making a joke to lighten the mood is basically just puffing cap up at the expense of spiderman.
>yfw Superior foes of spider-man series on netflix
>AoU credits scene has Spider-Man giving a press speech and pulls the mask off revealing Channing Tatum
>it's a fake-out and the real Spidey crashes the speech and makes jokes
>JJJ mad as all hell in the background
There's a lot Marvel could do with revealing this shit.
also, since spidey is as big as batman and superman, theres a need for franchise characters. Jessica and spidergwen arent as popular as Miles.
But the biggest reason for Miles in the MCU, is that it allows Peter to move on from eternal youth and grow up.
I'm fucking going too. I'm scrawny already. Always have been but I have a fast metabolism so when I do get in shape it happens quickly.
This fucking site. I literally have railed against cuckolding before it was a /pol/ meme and now I get called one for no fucking reason.
Why do I want this role? Because I was born with facial deformity, I've been bullied, made fun and down trodden my entire life. So has Peter. I've lived in poverty my entire life. So has Peter. I relate to his struggles, to his drive to make things right when everything is going against him.
I'm not the best looking actor, but I can bring it to this role so fucking hard -- I'll blow everyone the fuck out.
And why wouldn't you support someone from /co/ being in the MCU? You realize I could help make all of /co/'s dreams come true right? I'd get in there, impress the hell out of Marvel, make them BILLIONS and then let them know what their true fans really want, what's going to make them even richer!
Aha! Avengers #235-237, lets see what w