>DC Entertainment and Warner Bros. are teaming up to launch "DC Super Hero Girls" in fall 2015, a new initiative that will create a new superhero universe designed specifically for girls.
>"DC Super Hero Girls" will follow female superheroes and supervillains of the DC Comics, "prior to discovering their full super power potential." Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Batgirl, Harley Quinn, Bumble Bee, Poison Ivy and Katana are just a few of the characters set to appear as teenagers and star in the new line of products, geared at girls aged 6-12.
>"DC Entertainment is home to the most iconic and well-known Super Heroes including Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Batgirl," DC Entertainment President Diane Nelson said in a statement. "'DC Super Hero Girls' represents the embodiment of our long-term strategy to harness the power of our diverse female characters. I am so pleased that we are able to offer relatable and strong role models in a unique way, just for girls."
Holy fuck that's a blatant rip-off of the Disney art style. What was so wrong with stuff like Amethyst from DC Nation that we get this homogenized crap?
Seriously, Katana looks like fucking Mulan.
>any series that appeals primarily to boys is sexist
>any series that panders directly to women is inclusive!
>publishers still wonder why they can';t get young boys to read comics anymore
Also why try to get them into these characters only to have girls turn around and try reading their actual series to find cursing, blood and guts, and Babs slutting around?
Poison Ivy and Harley aren't heroes
Ivy is a crazed femme fatale temptress and eco-terrorist
Harley is a crazy battered wife syndrome groupie to a mass murdering psychopathic clown man.
Stargirl. Gypsy, Halo, Hawkgirl, Vixen, Miss Martian, or Mera weren't available?
But using lesser known characters like Vixen in things like this helps increase popularity for them. Plus, it'd be a really good promotion to raise awareness of her for the upcoming CW Vixen cartoon series.
Seriously who fucking cares about Bumblebee?
>Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy
is it too hard to go with Mera or Stargirl? why someonewho's been obsessing over a bad influence for a long time and became a psychotic and murderous person and well poison ivy is a damn Vegan terrorist
Stargirl is basically just there! look at how kid friendly she already looks and.
Or what about Mera or Aquagirl? or hawkgirl
this is essentially for children
The problem isn't trying to get girls into comics the problem is how they're doing it.
I half a year when this shit is cancelled do you think anyone reading it will want to go into the main line books where Harley is a serial killer?
This is gonna generate a quick sale and then turn the people they where trying to get into comics right the fuck off
>this is something thats not going to effect your comics, calm down
It already is. Everything has to pander to women. Everything has to include stronk womyn who beat up strawmen of the people the artists and writers have dumb arguments with on twitter. All women must be in burqas. The most important thing in the quality of the comic isn't art or writing, but how oppressed it makes the fat dykes with multicolored hair feel.
>will want to go into the main line books where Harley is a serial killer
why not? Most of /co/ grew up on DCAU. I had no problem going from TAS Batman to The Killing Joke.
Not saying this will work, but man, you are so negative for no reason. By your logic, nobody should try anything.
>this is something thats not going to effect your comics, calm down
This is wrong though. Shit is already affecting "my" comics. We've reached a point in our society where it's considered sexist for anything to be just for men or boys. It either has to be inclusive for everyone or girls only. I don't have a problem with comics being written for girls IN THEORY, but I know that shit is going to spread. Hell it's already spreading.
It's not going to work. Little girls aren't going to be pleased when they're old enough to get into the mainline comics and discover their favourite character is a mental case in an abusive relationship with a serial killer clown, or in more modern interpretations, a murderous juggalo who dresses like a prostitute.
You people are getting way too worked up over comics for little girls.
Remember that copypasta of some weeb screaming at a little kid who talks Naruto shit for not really "getting it"?
That's how you sound.
Its actually fine, faggot. They create a universe your daughter can read while they dont disrupt the universe you are reading. Unlike Marvel who caters to every change that tumblrs asks for.
>muh male tears a worse cancer than fucking bendis
>People are always clamoring for more Teen Titans shit
Fuck you, I never wanted Cyborg to be a founding member of the JL, or any of this other bullshit.
> Everything has to include stronk womyn who beat up strawmen
thats just Femthor or Wonder Woman in a digital comic that changes creative teams depending on the story arc
>All women must be in burqas
really does the wonder woman costume bother you that much you go out of your way saying she's essentially looking like a walking tent? or does the idea of a muslim heroine bother you (and Kamala doens't wear a burka, Dust wears a veil but she's forgotten either way)
yes i do agree the quality does matter it does bother me seeing people demand everything get pandered to them, I seriously i don't like seeing m favourite characters butchered down in order to please a group who don't give a damn about comics and just do this for the sake of patting themselves on the back "winning" in the pop-cultural war they've made up
I'm not sure alot of these characters (besides Batgirl) have radically changed in order to meet SJW's demands
Katana's book got canceled, Wondy's currently experiencing bad writing, I don't even know why bumblebee was chosen don't theyhave other black heroines like Vixen or maybe the new power girl? i really do not like the the idea of Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy being included for kids. Supergirl will be there regardless and also her comic is getting canceled but she has an upcoming show.
At most, they might have a few "yay go girls" kind of thing because they're not going to throw in say Wondy beating up a guy and calling him misogynist or sexist, kids tend to not understand that shit
but either way this is pandering ...because its aimed at 6-12 year old girls(alot of 10-12 year old girls don't read comics they're rather pretend they're 16 which is annoying)
>Foaming at the mouth isn't normal.
>unless they're trying to bank off Beware the Batman.
CN killed that dream. Even the trademark for the show was killed.
I was surprised they included that show's Batmobile for Lego Batman 3.
they're referring to how a girl might like Harley but then go read her in her own title which could get brutal, i remember an issue where she and some Jewish guy were going around and killing people and the whole beating skaters and stuff she's doing to get money.
The problem is at least in part
>I get stuff for me
>I should also get your stuff
I'd applaud this if not for the fact that it won't silence a single complaint about the "main line" stuff.
>At most, they might have a few "yay go girls" kind of thing because they're not going to throw in say Wondy beating up a guy and calling him misogynist or sexist, kids tend to not understand that shit
>but either way this is pandering ...because its aimed at 6-12 year old girls(alot of 10-12 year old girls don't read comics they're rather pretend they're 16 which is annoying)
>having a target audience
by this reasoning every single piece of fiction literally ever is pandering
That's the entire point: this initiative by DC is literally ignoring those dickwads as we speak.
The neckbeards are crying about how this is wrong, while DC boldly goes and does precisely what the neckbeards don't want them to do.
And what they will end up with is a much larger consumer base and greater diversity in their output.
And the neckbeards will fade into obscurity as the insignificant shitlords that they arw.
>They create a universe your daughter can read while they dont disrupt the universe you are reading.
You mean like how they had a Teen Titans Go book and that kept people from complaining about Red Hood and the Outlaws?
>it won't silence a single complaint
what does one have to do to silence YOUR COMPLAINTS?
Because as someone who doesn't give a fuck about internet activism and sjw, it is YOUR COMPLAINTS that bother me, since I have to deal with them everytime I come to /co/.
just shove it in feminists faces and tell them thats it cookie cutter enough for them
they'll find everything they'll need
in fact, im thinking about going on tumblr just too see how this is received
And it's the bad girls turned good or so the hero girls have rivals I guess and they are just there to be speed bumps for good girls to over come and learn a lesson from by doing so. It will probably like TTG without the implied funny.
>DC/WB: this is SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUNGER GIRLS the costumes are not reveling
>Sjws: YOU DAMN SEXISTS!
i mean if anything i can actually see them reading it, just because its not going to trigger them
If you think Red Hood and Teen Titans Go! were read by the same audiences you really need to leave.
Or are you somehow surprised in 2015 that grown women also like to read capeshit?
Pretty well. I hope this will help alleviate the Marvel cocksucking that goes on over there. DC has always had the better female characters. I hope they get some recognition for that.
why do you care about these complaints in the first place?
How pathetic are you?
>what does one have to do to silence YOUR COMPLAINTS?
Bring back Cassandra Cain, put Barbara Gordon back in the chair let the Joker be a psychopath, and stop inserting personal subtext into works. and force people to understand that the map is not the territory, so looking at a Frank Cho ass isn't going to suddenly make comic book fans rape people on the subway.
That, and shit down every "comic book journalism" site. All we need is Comiclist
Yeah, that's kind of my point. This is a nice but misguided and failed experiment waiting to happen because it's never been about having books for a female audience or a young audience. The criticisms levied against the Big Two can only be addressed to the satisfaction of the accusers by removing options, not adding them
...are you completely stupid? This initiative isn't about getting tumblrinas off DC's back, it's about making a genuine effort to branch out for a completely new, completely different audience! People are saying all the time how neckbeards aren't the only people reading comics anymore, and DC is going ahead and checking to see just how true that assertion is!
But setting even that aside, girls are finally going to get superheroes for themselves! That stuff should be a given since long ago!
Let's be honest, we all know that the main base of readers for this thing will be old guys from 18 to 30 that will read this for fap material and waifu shit.
I know this because i'm 28 and i'm plaining to follow this for the same reason.
> girls are finally going to get superheroes for themselves! That stuff should be a given since long ago!
neckbeards on this thread don't like that
things for kids will look cutesy
>it's about making a genuine effort to branch out for a completely new, completely different audience!
Be less casuual. Those efforts were made a few hundred times already.
Hell, I got into comics as a result of one of those waves; all of those sidekick young adult books from the mid 90s (that eventually teamed up to form Young Justice), that was the demographic outreach of that era. And it ended with all of those characters being derailed or dying and their books being cancelled.
its funny how the moral of Brave is basically a girl can do whatever the fuck she wants but they just couldn't see that and its so frustrating but disney didn't actually remove the design did they
I don't doubt that. I think that a lot of young and older girls wil probably read this. I'm just saying that the bigger numbers will come from guys like me. For example, there are already a discussions about this in one of the circles i follow. People are already excited about the waifu potential this might have.
That's what I thought of, too. Women got pissed because they didn't think it was necessary and "girls can play with Legos too". Turns out, it was wildly popular and little girls loved the pink blocks and Lego Friends series.
In the end, it's about money. Little girls will beg their parents to buy them cute Batgirl stuff.
>Well that's not sexist at all.
Well, it's because of this crap like in this article, that I think that this thing is an issue at all. The dad is beta as fuck but he's not totally wrong in his opinion. Females in capeshit comics are really over sexualized in most of them. And can be almost like softcore porn covers at times.
Holy fuck, guys. I hate this Tumblr pandering just as much as the next guy, but this isn't it. Know how to pick your battles. This is actually GOOD.
Instead of changing the mainline comic to please a bunch of overgrown harpies from the Tumblr JUST BECAUSE, like Marvel Comics seems to be doing, DC Comics is actually doing an honest effort of releasing a new line REALLY aimed at young girls. This is great.
Seriously, this has MAJOR WAIFU POTENTIAL. I'm excited for this.
It's about being free to choose whatever you want, so long as you don't choose against what they deem acceptable. If you choose poorly, may you age a thousand years in a second like it's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
Y'know what, I'm perfectly fine with this and every other kind of measure to get more girls into "geek culture".
Yeah, most of them will just be trend junkies, but think about how it was when you were all kids. Girls were into their stupid girly things, and you wouldn't give up your nerdy stuff to make an impression. But the boys of tomorrow will have a lot of girls into superheros and video games to play with, so they won't need to change their lifestyles to get into dating and shit. Good for them.
And the porn. We're about to get a flood of new porn. This is the best era to live in.
I'm a girl and my brother took me often to a comic store when I was 9-14. I always bought the covers with the prettiest women, like Image's Gen 13. Then I'd go home and draw them.
His opinion is shitty by being build on ignorant assumptions and out of date stereotypes.
He could have made clear what he demands not being supplied without maing an idiot out of himself.
>tfw I realize that this will basically be Super Best Friends Forever 2.0
This article gets posted occasionally and I can't help but ask each time, what exactly did the store guy do wrong?
A customer comes into a store and says "I have an 7 year old daughter. I want to buy her a comic book". The guy behind the counter says "I also have an 7 year old daughter. She likes Monster High. Perhaps yours would too."
The father then goes online and says "I DON'T WANT HER READING MONSTER HIGH. I WANT HER READING BATMAN. FIX BATMAN."
And that makes me wonder if this is going to be a thing that even works. Because on the one hand yeah, it's got a person with a bat on it, but using that same daughter's logic as in that article, does this separate but equal stuff really work? Is it "real comics"?
I wonder why he got so upset about MH. There's nothing wrong with Monster High. If anything, I hear more Moms ban that from their house because they don't like how the Monster girls look. MH teaches kids some good values, like don't judge others on how they look and accept your flaws.
Seriously, this is great. This is what all the publishers should do. You don't need to change or exclude what a certain demographic enjoys, especially when that demographic is your most loyal one and has been the backbone of the industry for years. You don't take away, you add, and this is what DC Comics is doing here.
Instead of changing the mainline characters, they're creating a new line specially made for the new demographic. This is what Marvel Comics should look and learn.
>I hear more Moms ban that from their house because they don't like how the Monster girls look
my mum let me watch me whatever i wanted
like i watched BTAS and then would watch PPG or kim possible
i don't get those parents?
From what I recall from that article, aside from the pics made in roflbot, were that the store guy only had two titles in the whole store that were suitable for little girls. My LCS has an entire all-ages section of trades, with another section for all-ages releases that week e.g. Abigail & The Snowman, Adventure Time, etc.
>He made a beta liberal uncomfortable by reminding him that girls can like girl things.
> girls can like girl things.
And that's the funniest part of the article. Even by customer dad's own admission, his daughter's eyes light up at the prospect of a Monster High comic. She's satisfied.
> most loyal one and has been the backbone of the industry for years.
i read somewhere that for a long time DC's biggest consumer base was actually women because DC used to publish young romance comics which very famous among them until they shut them down (i don't remember why) which drove away those money bad women
i wonder if they would be able to do something like this again
So are all three of mine. We don't even know that this one in question wasn't either, for that matter. Because the customer just went straight up to the counter and asked for a recommendation and then got mad that it wasn't what he wanted.
I would actually appreciate a line of romance comics. See, this is the type of shit i want. This is how true diversity is done.
By the way, i hope that this new line of books are mostly Slice of Life.
I generally don't have a problem with this, and DC/WB knows how to make money, but doesn't stuff like this further aggravate the whole "Pink Aisle/Blue Aisle" debate people get all heated about? Rather than girls and boys playing with each other in unisex toys, you divide them into little tribes and that mentality carries into teenage/young adulthood?
Like, that Batgirl and Katana would look really cool, but as a boy you couldn't get one and play with it in public because you've already marketed it as another Barbie, yanno?
I think that aisle thing is more the fault of the parents. Kids don't care, they want what looks cool/gross/pretty.
Companies will just do whatever makes them the most money.
>The trip was completely their idea, believe it or not. They had seen a commercial for Big Bang Theory with the cast in a comic book store, asked about the concept, and demanded that I take them to one.
Fuck Bazooper forever
Oh for fuck's sake. I didn't need 'girl' versions of comics to become a fan when I was a little kid. All I needed was a good story and interesting characters.
What is up with the 'girl' versions of shit? I thought we already established that separate is not equal.
Too many colors. Makes it look like a school uniform that someone slapped Superperson elements onto on-the-spot. Design idea has a lot of potential, though.
Also, Batgirl's straight up wearing a huge Batarang as a backpack. Be cool if she actually used it that way and it wasn't just an awkward-looking costume element.
Hey gang, despite how god-awful this may look like, how about we wait until whatever "DC Super Hero Girls" actually is comes out until we make our opinions about it?
I mean, heck. Would something like Static Shock (I'm talking about the cartoon show, not the original comic, for relevance's sake) receive this level of criticism when it first got announced?
I'm not saying that any of this is good or bad. My only point is that none of you, including me, have an informed opinion based off of the end product version of whatever this'll turn out to be. Let's at least digest what we get so we can have an informed opinion rather than simply hating something we know nothing about based off of it's premise alone
This seems really stupid to me.
I mean, appealing to women and girls is just fine to me, but I think that having to change everything in order to appeal to a certain type of person is a fairly common pitfall. What, you think girls will only respond positively to comics and comic book characters because the art is bright and vibrant and insultingly simplistic? That's condescending to say the least.
I'd say that if the goal was to appeal to young girls specifically, they may first want to appeal to younger PEOPLE first. You know, have a big roll out of more kid friendly comics that also include books built around DC's bigger female characters such as Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Batgirl etc. as well as a few more obscure female characters such as Bumblebee, Katana and Black Canary. I'd be particularly interested in seeing a Lois Lane comic, actually. AND if they're feeling really confident, maybe a female team book.
TL;DR This idea is dumb, have a line of comics for kids instead.