I've read the script and I'm honestly impressed. It is very good, it balances a huge cast of characters while maintaining focus on Captain America and Iron Man and their conflicting ideologies, and it has some amazing action scenes.
I imagine this is an early draft. Not only it is rather long, but has some dark as fuck moments that I can can't imagine Marvel will put in a movie. There's also a villain twist I'm certain /co/ won't like, and one particular moment that'll cause a lot of internet outcry, but is done pretty tastefully here. 9/10, has all it needs to be based.
And the characters that appear in it, for anyone who's curious: Captain America, Iron Man, Winter Soldier, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Spider-Man, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Maria Hill, Nick Fury, Peter Gyrich, Crossbones, Sharon Carter, Baron Zemo, Hawkeye's family, President Ellis, Councilwoman Hawley, the SHIELD techie that wouldn't launch the ships (his name is Jason).
Cap doesn't die.
Also, it's pretty interesting to notice the script is just titled "Civil War".
How is Baron Zemo portrayed in the story? He's one of my all time favorite villains, and it's going to be infuriating if Marvel wastes yet another villain in the MCU, this time being one of their greatest.
I already assume they're going to ruin him. Am I wrong to assume that?
Gyrich, I think.
I liked him, but he's different from the comics and he doesn't have as much screentime as other villains. But he has great lines, a pretty awesome-sounding fight scene and
he doesn't die.
Ok, i'll take the bait, how much does the ideological conflict resemble the one in the comic? As many point out, barely anyone has a secret identity among those characters, is this all about after-battle accountability then?
>balances a huge cast
like most the Marvel movies
>amazing action scenes
...based off a script?
won't say what they are
>dark as fuck moments that I can can't imagine Marvel will put in a movie
excuses for when the movie isn't dark but sounding informed anyway
cos 10/10 would look too fake, amirite
most of which confirmed or are obvious
Which do you guys enjoy more?
The fake E3 leaks every year, or the fake Capeshit leaks every year?
Yes. It's similar, but they make both sides more sympathetic. Especially Tony. And the outcome is very different. They all come out as heroes.
He's already a vigilante, with a shitty homemade costume, and he's the one turning the most heads, because he's actually superpowered and much more public than others (Daredevil is referenced). Stark recruits him to the government-sponsored Avengers, and they have a teacher-and-student relationship. He gets the suit from Stark.
He eventually feels the Avengers are taking their feud a little too far, and calls out Stark on his bullshit. In the end, he's one fo the few still in activity, even though he reneges on the government sponsorship.
He doesn't interact much with Cap, though. I missed that.
He doesn't have a father that fought Captain America in WWII. He doesn't always wear the mask, though it has an interesting origin. It is described as black, though.
Also, I don't remember if it ever was so in the comics, but he was a Vibranium sword.
HYDRA corrupted the world's greatest intelligence agency and nearly conquered the world. Allowing a government that could still be compromised coordinate superhero activities is dangerous, especially since superheroes would then only become a new and more destructive version of nuclear weapons.
And he's right. HYDRA is still controlling the Registration, and superheroes are forced to invade Wakanda.
>with a shitty homemade costume
That shit is stupid. It's not like Peter couldn't get materials to put together a decent costume or know how to sew, he's a teen prodigy. Stop taking ideas from fans, Marvel.
>Stark says he'll stop being Iron Man, and retire at the end of AoU
>Is still Iron Man
>develops a relationship with Hawkeye...
this movie gonna be good
Can you tell anything about who will side with who?
Captain America gets Falcon, Scarlet Witch with support from Nick Fury.
Iron Man gets Black Widow, War Machine and Maria Hill, though she is in fact Captain America's mole.
Vision joins the Registration, but refuses to engage in combat.
Hawkeye doesn't affiliate. Neither does Bucky. Ant-Man is affiliated with Stark, but not really part of the team.
>An "i've read the script" thread
Such nice bullshit in these
I always like when some of the fake shit is way better than the real shit.
Not in the draft I've read.
A good deal, but it's different. They're not really secluded from the world or hyper-advanced, though they've been hiding their Vibranium stash.
>[word]fag" is not derogatory
How long have you? It was used as a derogatory before the new hipsters came in and turned every insult into a compliment and every compliment into an insult like a pack of wild cackling female
Crossbones and his men attack his farm, and his wife is shot and dies in his arm. He carries his children to a panic room, locks them up and tries to fight off Crossbones' men, but is overpowered.
He awakens in a HYDRA outpost where Crossbones tortures him on Zemo's behalf for Nick Fury's secrets, as Fury is still targeting HYDRA facilities and endangering Zemo's endgame. Crossbones tells Hawkeye he murdered his kids, and proceeds to torture Hawkeye for a bit.
Hawkeye doesn't break, and manages to break out, leading to a scene where he just goes around the facility killing mooks until he gets his bow and arrow back. It's reads like a cross of that one sequence from The Ultimates Vol. 2 crossed with the nightclub sequence from John Wick.
Of course, Crossbones didn't really kill the kids. He couldn't find the panic room and they were later rescued by Fury.
Language changes. Just like "all this shit" can mean "all this stuff" without being derogatory.
Faggot started as a word for "bundles of sticks".
But your comment was retarded to begin with because, as pointed out, South Park is and always has been libertarian.
>It's reads like a cross of that one sequence from The Ultimates Vol. 2 crossed with the nightclub sequence from John Wick.
He is weaponizing super-humans.
Well, this is at least a little smarter than the "shoot everyone with helicarriers" plan, but I still don't see how they're possibly going to deal with the Hulk if they actually try to conquer the whole world.
None of this shit is real, but fuck it i'll enjoy the ride.
SW/Cap was awesome under Chris Priest was awesome
They're using SHIELD's data to reproduce Stark's technology and Banner's mutation, mainly, and also reverse-engineering Chitauri technology and Ultron technology.
The Registration is their endagme, through that, not only they control the superhero community, but also learn more about them in order to reproduce their powers.
Her crimes have become public and lead to public outrage. She joins the Registration in a misguided attempt to rectify them. She is rattled.
One of the politicians mentions "a psycho in a red suit beating people up in Hell's Kitchen".
He regained his memories, but is still unbalanced, and has been killing HYDRA officials across the globe, including politicians. One of his attempts leads to the movie's Stamford analogue, which puts the heat on him. Stark wants to bring him in for Howard's death, Steve wants to give him medical care. He eventually joins forces with Steve to take down HYDRA and is implied to become the new Captain America in the end.
>Not sure if troll who hasn't thought out his material or extremely sheltered...
They confirmed the deal between Marvel Studios and Sony a while ago now. Spidey is going to be in Civil War, confirmed.
They're using SHIELD's data to reproduce Stark's technology and Banner's mutation, mainly, and also reverse-engineering Chitauri technology and Ultron technology.
Wait, isn't this the plot of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen film?
I don't know, it's not scripted.
There's quite a bit, that's why I think they'll reshuffle stuff.
New Avengers VS. HYDRA mooks.
Bucky VS. Crossbones and HYDRA mooks.
Captain America escaping from Stark Tower.
Hawkeye VS. Crossbones and HYDRA mooks.
Captain America and his team VS. Iron Man and his team Round 1.
Winter Soldier VS. Iron Man and soldiers.
Captain America and his team VS. Iron Man and his team round 2.
Avengers VS. HYDRA.
She lost Banner and feels lost. There's actually some interesting scenes between her and Steve in which they discuss that. The battleground has become his home, but it is her prison, and she wants out. Registration will allow that.
The final battle is everyone VS. HYDRA and their weapons.
Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Falcon, War Machine, Spider-Man and Black Panther all fighting together.
What? Isn't it sad with all that relationship building that....oh wait, there were all about 2 scenes where banner and widow really talked at all and one of those scenes was her literally pining for dick like a bitch in heat
I just realized Bucky is actually a lot more interesting than Cap is because whole Cap is haha leaf year old, Bucky actually has experienced close to a hundred years in real time.
Weapons. Lots and lots of Chitauri-based and Ultron-based weapons. They are much more powerful than the Chitauri and Ultron actually were, but I chalk that up to a line about "HYDRA enhancements".
So, how does it end? Is registration not active anymore? And if it isn't how do they deal with all the super power dangerous people who answer to no one?
"Hydra did it",doesn't solve the actual fundamental problem.
Also, this is a carbon copy of tws
does that include some comic villains?
He's a diplomat representing Wakanda for most of the movie. Everyone believes him to be a scholar who has never been close to combat. When he learns HYDRA has been stealing Vibranium from his country to build weapons, he volunteers to join the Avengers to take them down, in full Black Panther costume. And he's so good at kicking ass everyone just stands there shocked for a moment. Stark even says a "holy shit".
It is active, but Stark issues Gyrich an ultimatum. He's no longer supporting it, he's taking over. He'll oversee everything, authorize everything, and whoever does something without his approval is going to get it. And Gyrich is forced to suck up and take it.
So, Registration still around, but it's a good Registration run by Stark that won't weaponize heroes for political interest. HYDRA is over for good after this.
>HYDRA is over for good after this.
What are Wandas feelings on Tony post-Age of Ultron. I wish we got more character interactions in the movie. A lot of stuff got left undefined
So its confirmed everyone is friends again in the end?
>RussoWars part 1
Turns out Thanos was HYDRA all along
>RussoWars part 2
The Beyonders were also Hydra
Namor was Hydra all along
>Avengers vs HYDRA
Avengers was Hydra all along!
Not really. They're not as much in control of the Registration as they were of the Insight Helicarriers. But they have moles in the government through which they'll acquire that information. The Wakanda incursion is ordered by true politicians not affiliated with HYDRA.
She still doesn't trust him, but she officially comes around in the end.
Yeah, it ends with them all more or less on good terms.
I'd guess Stark, because they have several one-on-one scenes.
Yeah, more or less.
She feels assured they'll find Banner, and that she can redeem herself for her past. She has a pretty good final scene with Cap about it.
>Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Falcon, War Machine, Spider-Man and Black Panther all fighting together.
That sounds like there is no tension...
He does. Stark basically lets everyone go and Fury gets them new identities to lay low, but Steve doesn't take it because the government needs an example. If they bring down the leader, there'll be less heat on Clint, Sam and Wanda.
He's put in prison, where he's visited by Natasha. She's sad about the way things turned out, but Steve says it's for best. He reassures her that, as much as she doubts herself due to the things she lost, she's proven countless times through self-sacrifice that she's a hero, and his friend. She says Stark will keep an eye on the government to make sure the Registration is running smoothly, and Cap says Widow will be there to keep an eye on Stark.
She says she can't imagine a world without Captain America, but Steve says that he's never been Captain America. That it is an ideal greater than himself, and ideals can't be locked up, they're eternal.
Cut to Bucky in action, with a modified Winter Soldier uniform in Steve's colors, a haircut/clean-shaven, and the shield, fighting some terrorists. Not necessarily Captain America, not necessarily Winter Soldier. That's where it ends.
> dark as fuck moments
And you know most of all of it will be cut.
The script will get butchere'd just like every other marvel shit.
You fags should be aware of this by now.
They will never give you your perfec marvel film so let it go
The movie is set one year after Ultron's attack. SHIELD leaks have raised awareness of the circumstances of several incidents such as the Battle of New York, the Mandarin bombings, the Dark Elf invasion, which, in addition to the Hulk rampage in South Africa and Ultron leveling Sokovia, have caused superheroes to experience a sizeable public backlash. Stark is retired from being Iron Man and dedicating himself to philantrophy to atone for his mistakes.
Captain America is leading the New Avengers - Black Widow, Falcon, War Machine, Scarlet Witch and Vision - to take down the remnants of HYDRA and find Bucky, aided by Nick Fury.
The movie opens with them busting a drug deal and recovering some Vibranium-based weaponry. Back to their new headquarters, the Avengers get to mingle. Black Widow is the co-leader, Falcon and Captain America are true bros, and Falcon also has a sort of friendly rivalry with Rhodes since they're both airmen. Cap is coaching Wanda into dealing with her powers and losing Pietro, and Vision is dealing with his expanding consciousness.
Fury drops by to share some info on Bucky. He's been killing HYDRA officials all over the globe, and it's getting hard to keep track of him or cover up his assassinations. Lots of the HYDRA assets he's offed are power players with seemingly spotless records, and the public wouldn't understand.
We then see Spider-Man's first public appearance catching some criminals, which switches to a Congress hearing discussing the matter, with some politicians advocating for the Superhero Registration Act. Stark is in attendance alongside T'Challa, who is acting as a spokesman for Wakanda on the matter of the Vibranium stashes that have been exposed by Ultron's attack. The UN believes Vibranium to be a dangerous resource and wants to oversee its mining and safekeeping, but T'Challa defends it belongs to his people. The usual political intrigue.
>Being a prodigy in something other than art and sewing means you can do art and sewing super easily and look like a suit worth thousands of dollars
You're a fucking moron and hate you.
Does he keep the iron spider suit? Are they going to make that his look from now on? Or does he get the older costume back maybe a bit better?
Also what about Uncle Ben? Is he mentioned in it?
Cap and Stark meet to discuss the Vibranium weapon usage and discuss the concept of Registration, with Stark supporting it and Cap being against it. They discuss their motives. Meanwhile, in HYDRA's main lair, Zemo kills people who have failed him. Crossbones is there. Zemo says they in fact didn't fail, but it needed to appear so, because he doesn't trust anyone. And it's time to put their plan in motion.
Acting on a tip from one of his contacts, Bucky arrives at a HYDRA outpost in London, where he is ambushed by mercenaries. It's a set-up. The fight spills into the street, where Crossbones arranges a bombing to make it appear as if Bucky caused it. The explosions kills several people and causes widespread damage. Bucky escapes, and the Avengers move in to clean up the damage. The public outcry is massive, and the SHRA is approved. Stark decides to support it. He has learned from going through SHIELD leaks that Bucky killed his father and wants to bring him in.
In his farm, Hawkeye is attacked and captured by Crossbones, who kills his wife. He's then taken to HYDRA's lair and tortured for infomation in Fury's secret network, which only Barton is privy to, but doesn't break.
Cap is called to Stark's office, where he meets CIA asset Peter Gyrich, from London, who has been partnered with Sharon Carter. They announce the Registration has been approved and Cap and his team need to surrender. Cap says "no". Stark tells Steve he's bringing Bucky down, Cap says Bucky is innocent, brainwashed and needs help. Gyrich orders soldiers to seize up Cap, but he escapes.
Cap returns to HQ and tells the others what happened. He gets into an argument with Black Widow, who believes they need to register. They exchange harsh words, and when the military come to collect them, Cap leaves with Sam, Wanda and Vision while Natasha and Rhodes stay behind and join the Registration.
He went to his own memorial, remembered everything, and
promptly fucked off until he could make a dramatic entrance to save Cap, because he's with him until the end of the line
Would you call this a Cap film, an Cap v Stark film, or an Avengers film?
Does Cap get any epic/motivational/inspirational scene (in your opinion) where the general audience would wish they could carry his books from school?
Is Stark represented as the unlikable rich douche people blindly love so much?
Do Cap and Bucky have any dialogue exchange?
Fury sets up the Avengers in a safe house while Stark approaches Spider-Man to join the Registration. Spider-Man confides with Stark his secret identity, and Stark is surprised to learn he's just a boy. They bond, and Peter mentions Uncle Ben and his mantra that "With great powers, come great responsabilities". Stark then unveils his team on public TV, while Cap and his team become fugitives. Their top priority is to find Bucky before Stark.
Fury gets a lead on Bucky's whereabouts and the team heads there, but it is an ambush by Stark and his forces, leading to a fight. Stark has a new Bleeding Edge armor, but Vision holds his own. Scarlet Witch BTFOs some soldiers and Spider-Man, Falcon VS. War Machine, and Cap VS. Widow while she tries to get him to see things from her point of view. Scarlet Witch manages to blow them back long enough for her team to escape and reunite with Fury, who deduces Romanoff used her intel to forge a Bucky sighting to get them into a vulnerable place.
Cap doesn't want to endanger anyone else, but they all decide to stick to their guns and help him. Stark learns from Rhodes about the Vibranium weapons they busted from HYDRA, and Gyrich reports it to his superiors. They accuse Wakanda of endangering global security by not giving them entrance, and tensions escalate.
Bucky finds out about the Vibranium crisis and goes through his old contacts, eventually locating a HYDRA outpost where they storage Vibranium stolen from Wakanda before shipping it off to the other bases to produce weapons. Stark locates Bucky and tries to bring him in, leading to a fight in which Bucky gets pretty roughed up, but escapes. With no other option, he makes his way to the safe house where Steve is located, which he's aware of due to his extensive research on the SHIELD leaks, and tells him everything.
The New Avengers patch Bucky up and he and Steve finally talk it out. We get some exposition on Zemo and the reaffirmation of the Steve/Bucky broship. Meanwhile, Stark reports to his superiors about the HYDRA stealing Vibranium from Wakanda to produce weapons. T'Challa assures that they'll handle it on their own, but the government is undeterred and Gyrich orders the government Avengers to attack Wakanda, which Stark reluctantly agrees to do. Sharon, who is often at odds with Gyrich over his M.O, contacts Fury through a secure line and relays the info to Steve, saying she has faith in him.
Meanwhile, Hawkeye escapes from Zemo's hold as we've established.
>With great powers, come great responsabilities
I didn't want to play my card too fast and reveal you're lying since we've started on some work for the film already that disproves you but you did my job for me, thanks.
Stark's Avengers arrive on Wakanda to seize the Vibranium, leading to tensions with the Wakanda military despite their efforts to maintain peace. Steve's Avengers intervene to stop them from causing an international incident and instead shut down the HYDRA outpost collecting Vibranium. Another fight ensues, in which Maria Hill is outed as a mole who sabotages the Bleeding Edge armor, leveling the game for Steve and Stark to have a big fight. The other Avengers fight as well, and it spills into the street.
Steve notices that, while everyone is beating eachother, Spider-Man has peeled off and is rescuing civilians. He realizes they're fighting for themselves, not for the people, and they need to work together if they want to stop HYDRA. Natasha, who had been having some disagreements with Stark, vouches for Cap as they realize they're stronger together than apart.
T'Challa intervenes and volunteers to assist them in stopping HYDRA because he wants peace between his father's country and the United Nations. The Avengers, however, do not find the HYDRA outpost. It was all a dupe so they'd kill each other for Zemo.
Hawkeye manages to contact Fury and report to the location of Zemo's lair: Switzerland. The Avengers head there and rendzevous with Barton as they mount a massive attack on Zemo's compound. Zemo orders his men to fight back using Vibranium-based, reverse-engineered weapons from the Chitauri and Ultron, and the battle is fierce.
Hawkeye fights Crossbones and kills him with four arrows, one for each of his dead family members. Black Panther kicks ass. Wanda eventually manages to achieve enough control over her powers she rearranges the molecules of the HYDRA mooks weapons, culling the Vibranium's special properties and allowing the Avengers to solo them.
> one for each of his dead family members
But I thought he only killed his wife? Is he still under the impression he killed all of them? You'd think Fury would just tell him as soon as he could.
Or this is bullshit, you decide
Cap and Bucky tag-team Zemo and his Vibranium sword, but Zemo still kicks a lot of ass while rambling about his ideals. He eventually gets defeated and Bucky moves in for the kill, but decides to spare him, and prove that he is more than the assassin HYDRA forced him to become.
Zemo and his men are locked up, and Stark retrieves the location of all of HYDRA's secret bases. The military move in to dismantle the entire organization, arrest its figureheads and aprehend their weapons and technology.
The Avengers are still wanted, but Stark decides to let them go, and Fury and Jason produce new identities for them to lay low. Vision decides to leave the Earth. Cap decides to surrender, but entrusts his shield to Bucky, so he can always remember who he really is: a hero.
Cap is arrested. Barton finds out his children have survived and leaves with them and brings Wanda along to look out for her as well. Natasha and Rhodes are back with Stark, while Fury disappears once again, now with Hill by his side. Peter realizes he isn't made to fight in wars, he's there to look out for the common man, and Stark sends him off, erasing his data from the registry.
Stark BTFOs Gyrich, announces he's taking over because Gyrich made illegal calls throughout his involvement with the SHRA, and Carter is promoted to his place. Stark visits Cap and they patch things up, Zemo is locked up in the Raft, Natasha visits Cap and they patch things up, Bucky keeps the torch alive.
As much as I assume this is all lies, but some of it I wouldn't be opposed to.
Ant-Man also joins the final fight, having infiltrated it on Stark's behalf to sabotage the security systems, in exchange for pardon. He is registered, but doesn't really plan on a career in superheroics. That's pretty much all he does, then he fights some mooks and does the arrow riding bit. Most inconsequential role.
T'Challa returns to his country after all's said and done and sort of opens his borders more for foreign political envoys. The Vibranium mines are secured so no longer will they be breached.
I agree. It's so easy and obvious. All the stuff about him getting tortured, going apeshit and stuff sounds way intense, though. Phase 3 is apparently where shit gets really pitch black dark, apparently.
>Phase 3 is apparently where shit gets really pitch black dark, apparently.
What are you implying?
I forgot to squeeze something in for that, I was winging this pretty hard and squeezed in the whole Bucky killing Howard thing as best I could after someone brought it up.
Didn't intend for this to spiral into slander and assholes calling people newfags as if us making up bullshit is somehow unique or rare and not just a drop in the internet bucket.
you do realize this whole "you're newer than me" shit only shows you're both new, right?
that and how you're bigger faggots than one another, which wasn't a surprise.
Peter says "I am the spider!" a lot randomly in the middle of important and engaging scenes and you're supposed to understand he's just really messed up in the head from it.
But, really, I don't know what to have him say, I thought the responsibilities line was funny.
Please stop being an asshole, newfag.
>Peter says "I am the spider!" a lot randomly in the middle of important and engaging scenes and you're supposed to understand he's just really messed up in the head from it.
I don't get it. Is he just breaking the tension or did he get hit on the head. he... He doesn't REALLY SERIOUSLY refer to himself as "The Spider" Does he ever change back from the Iron Spider suit or is that going to be Marvel's look from here on out?
He says it repeatedly during various heated scenes until the awkward looks from everyone make it clear that he's not normal, and is MCU's first autistic hero as Tony later diagnoses him.
>Steve notices that, while everyone is beating eachother, Spider-Man has peeled off and is rescuing civilians
Well, excepting the .001% chance OP was legit and abandoned the thread before it was take over by nefarious Anons, I have to give credit to OP, faggot that he is. This plot summary, structure and ending was actually compelling, so thanks, dogfucker.
Sorry for asking here but I didn't want to bother the board by making a new thread just for a silly question.
I am confused in this matter, is Avengers Vol. 5 the same as Avengers World? What's the difference? I want to get on the bandwaggon for the reboot and I don't really know where to start.
Avengers World is just another comic book with Avengers on the title so it can sell more.
As far as the book goes, it is more tied to the Avengers vol 5 and New Avengers vol 3 books as opposed to Secret Avengers and Uncanny Avengers ones.
I want to see Iron Man in the Mark 40 suit. Show that he isn't the same Tony Stark he was before and it's all new. It would really emphasize a colder Tony is he isn't in the old fun suit but a darker one
idk really, i just read along as the weeks went by, and usually would say "takes place before events..." if there's vital information in them. As a rule of thumb I'd just read Avengers/New Avengers first just in case something comes up
They wanted abom for AoU but changed their mind, but abom has worked with zemo before so it could make more sense they through him in now.
Even with vision on their side, without bammer hulk, hydra having abom would def up the stakes
>Retards falling for this even when Op has not post a single scene description or clear quote / conversation.
It has been fun though.
Told you people their relationship wasn't going to be a one and done thing they weren't going to continue pursuing or referencing. It was made abundantly clear in AoU that they'll be brought back together again for real.
it really is /co/ tradition
See the infamous IM3 spoilers with Tony going to space after getting a distress signal from Star-Lord
TWS with the World Secrurity Council responsible for Ultron
GOTG with two Orbs
AOU with no deaths, no Infinity Stones,
sounds like Marvel is erasing some of Whedon's doing. Also, following a darker path toward Infinity Wars. If this is how they start phase III count me as hyped. Plenty of potential. Love the vision and his journey away from a grounded universe, awkward spidey, a villain who lives (Zemo). That ending with Bucky will top anything in the MCU. Its like that shot with the kid from Captain America: The First Avenger holding up a garbage lid with cap colors: Captain America never dies.
Hopefully Illuminati is formed in Doctor Strange. Seems like a nice alternative to what they try to set up in Civil War. Really hoping for some Hulk answers soon. Marvel wanted to expand its universe, and I can't be more excited. "I'm with you 'til the end of the line."
Was there anything like this for the DC and Spider-Man films? What about Watchmen? All I remember from that is people trying to pass off moments from Hayter's script as things which made it into the finished film, possibly because they were just plain confused.
Civil War pisses me off because
Captain America believes superheroes should not have to reveal their identities to the public, (even though the government was responsible for making Cap and they know his identity) whereas Iron Man thinks superheroes should have their identities known, so he convinces Spider-Man (SPIDER-MAN! who has reason to keep his identity secret) to unmask himself publicly. Anyway, on Cap's side of 'we shouldn't show our faces' is Punisher, Wolverine, Hulk, She-Hulk and Namor. Fair enough that they may be fighting for other heroes, but NONE OF THOSE HEROES WEAR MASKS Spidey does join Cap, but because he revealed his Identity, Aunt May gets sniped from a building and barely survives
I'm not liking the Spidey-Stark relationship...as if the greatest Marvel hero should relate to the billionaire, selfish, irresponsible, arrogant, but yet popular prick instead of following the main character and moral compass of the mcu...just saying, Spidey knows better than to hang out with the least humble character of them all.
But no, rdj will want to get the biggest face of marvel to hang out with his character on screen instead of something much more logical than that.
Can RDJ portray a villain? I mean can he be a bad guy? Stark was a villain on Civil War. I dont think RDJ's ego would let him become someone the viewer hates. Civil War is the big heel turn for RDJ and idk if he can be the heel.
They'll make him out to be the hero.
Or possibly Marvel is slowly setting up a situation where they kill off RDJ and replace him with Spidey / Black Panther as the new 'smart guy' in the Avengers.
>Ant-Man also joins the final fight, having infiltrated it on Stark's behalf to sabotage the security systems, in exchange for pardon. He is registered, but doesn't really plan on a career in superheroics. That's pretty much all he does, then he fights some mooks and does the arrow riding bit. Most inconsequential role.
I bet the role gets beefed up if Ant-Man is really successful.
Doubt they would use Spidey for that cos he will be too young. I thought though that strange was going to be the pushing/leading force for the avengers going forward after his movie
AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FUCKING FIRE
Falcon is a Soldier you fucking cunt.
Rhodey is an Airman yes.
Just because he has wings, doesn't mean hes an Airman, they have helicopter pilots too in the Army....
Man, I like the Russo bros. so I'm cautiously optimistic, but these moves are becoming too fucking big. They just keep stuffing them with more and more actors and fight scenes. Ant-man is going to be so refreshing between these two messes of movies.
>Steve notices that, while everyone is beating eachother, Spider-Man has peeled off and is rescuing civilians. He realizes they're fighting for themselves, not for the people, and they need to work together if they want to stop HYDRA.
>Spider-Man is the heart of the team
YEEES... this is... beautiful... too good to be real...
Well, the fangirls need a Loki substitude, that's probably the reason for the casting and why Zemo will stick around.
Roughly 25 minutes. He's in it a lot, and gets four major scenes. He also quips a lot. One quip I liked is when he says Cap's side got Carrie White (Wanda) and they don't even have Cujo.