This thread is dedicated to those trying to induce lactation on themselves or to help a partner do so. We encourage safe practices, consent (in RL), and exploration of your fetishes.
Please share with us your experiences with lactation and breastfeeding, your processes of inducing lactation of yourself or another, as well as any stories where you were the recipient of breast feeding.
(Please remember to post related pictures with your replies, the last few threads turned into a text wall. As well this thread is not gendered bias. I don't care if you post pictures of male lactation, ext, ext so long as it's topic related.)
First and foremost lactation is developed on supply and demand. What we are essentially doing here is tricking your body into believing you have a child you need to provide for. For the first while until you start lactating heavily it will require some diligence on your part. This is because your are stimulating your body into producing milk glands and until you start lactating a fair amount it will go away easily without your consistency on stimulating it.
Further more if you do start to lactate you need to continue to breast feed long after you run out of milk each session so that your body believes you need to produce more. If you leave milk in your breast after a feeding sessions your milk production will begin to tapper off. Before we start though I need to express that these methods work for both men and women. So for those trans out there who are looking for ways to enlargen their bosoms this may be a promising method outside of hormone therapy to do so. If you are just starting hormone therapy please research any supplements I'm about to list extensively before you take them alongside your hormones as it might have some undesired affects especially in the early stages of your therapy.
I would like to start of with the physical methods of stimulation. If you are just using supplements I suggest also using physical stimulation for the best results and vice versa.
//Keep note that it is important for all physical methods posted that you give yourself resting time between your 2 hour sessions. You are trying to mimic breast feeding, if you continue to do physical stimulation you are no longer mimicking breast feeding and will yield little to no results. As well you may end up ultimately hurting your breast and that would be counter productive. Keep to fifteen minutes for each individual breast. Only exceed that if you are not working on both breasts at the same time. This is why I list 15-30 minute sessions.//
The most promising physical method by far is having a partner suckle your breasts. Like all physical stimulation I am going to write about in here it is suggested that you do so for about fifteen minutes on one breast, then the other (or sanctimoniously) every 2 hours. This may not fit into many peoples busy schedules and you may not have a partner that can suck on your breasts that often. Fear not we have ways around that, as well if you still find you can't get those sessions in every 2 hours these methods will still work if you use them less often. The key thing here is consistency as you want your body to believe that you are in demand of producing milk. As well the closer you get to having 15-30 minute sessions every 2 hours excluding your sleeping time the faster you will notice the affects and the more predominate the affects will be.
Now we've already discussed suckling as the best physical way to induce stimulation. To continue on that subject briefly you will want them to spend about fifteen minute on one breast and then move to the other for another fifteen minutes. You should try and get them to suckle like a child or a newborn if possible and the pressure they should be using when sucking is all up to you and what you are comfortable with handling. But they will have to be doing this for quite a while and it's best not to wear out their mouth so fast. For those of you who can't always have their partner available on demand a breast pump is not only a secondary choice, but something you should think of purchasing and using along with breast suckling and messages.
You want a pump that at encases your entire nipple and as little of the areola as possible, and to make sure it's the right size for you so that it can make a perfect seal. You may want to look into breast pumps with breast shields and to find out what's a good fit for you please look here.
Another thing that I've become aware of is a machine called the Tens Unit. This is perfect for when you have absolutely no time in the middle of your day for your 15-30 minutes sessions every 2 hours. These machines can easily be hidden on your body under or in your clothing and can be turned on and off at a flick of the switch. I insist on only buying the Tens Unit with two pads for each breasts. This is because the small electric charge goes through one pad to the other. If you only have one pad for each breast that charge is traveling quite a long distance across your torso to the other side. You want to keep the charge on your breasts and not elsewhere on your body. Before considering purchasing one read the safety warnings as I'm sure those with pace makers and heart problems may not be suitable candidates to use this method of stimulation.
Like I mentioned before keep your sessions to 15-30 minutes at a time. You need resting periods between sessions otherwise you will see no results. When you finally start to lactate though do not continue use of the Tens Unit. The pads can go directly onto your breast under a bra and can be used while you are working or walking about. They are silent and relaxing.
(Like anything else that I list though please do your own research before using anything suggested so you know if it's right for your personal use.)
Another way of physical stimulation is through breast messages. I know there are different types of breast messages for different uses, but I have little information on hand to give to you. However I know that the stimulation from facing the shower while breast messaging helps along with the process of stimulating your breast.
What supplements should I use?
All of these supplements listed can easily be found online, while most can be found in local health food stores. You should always read the bottle directions and look up exactly what you are taking before use.
As well if you have any further concerns or for prolonged use of supplements for over a year you should take it up with your health practitioner.
1000 to 1500mg of pueraria mirifica a day
1220mg (2 capsuls) capsules fenugreek 2-3 times
Red Clover 1275mg three times a day (three capsules three times a day)
If there are any other supplements you, a partner, or a friend are taking for this purpose please share the knowledge.
Jesus, you'd think I beat up your family member or something. I didn't see it from the thumbnail alone. It's deleted now, don't have a cow ;)
For those looking to induce lactation onto themselves here is a quote of a quote from an old thread.
"1000 to 1500mg of pueraria mirifica a day... for breast growth
for lactation i would take 1220mg (2 capsuls) capsules fenugreek 2-3 times a day wiff meals. though prolonged dosage will make you smell like waffles. i like it.. but i could see people getting upset."
Once you get to about 5-8 ounces per pumping session (can take a few months), then you'll likely start seeing the public leakage. Lactation has triggers based on when you're normally expressing. If you milk yourself and are aroused and tend to masturbate along with it, chances are once you get to 5-8 ounces, you'll get aroused in public and start leaking in turn.
The leaking actually tapers off after a couple months, as your breasts stabilize. Of course, if you do keep up the demand, the leaking will likely progress to full-on squirting, as opposed to a dribble.
Also, I have a friend who induced (the source of this information), and she has grown several cup sizes (at least 4-5) over the course of a year and a half and got up to about 14-16 ounces of milk per session (and over 30 ounces in one session, if she went a couple days without pumping just so she could "really feel full"). Unfortunately, she's not nearly as into it as she used to be, so I don't know how much she's up to now (nearing the 2 year mark), but she does still leak when squeezing into a bathing suit that's too small or waking up to a naughty dream."
"increasing the amount of estrogen in a male body will increase breast growth. theres plants that mimic estrogen you can buy if you cant get prescribed actual estrogen it's called red clover and it's available in supplements.
you'd also need to block testosterone for that to work which saw palmetto does. and for the maximum amount of breast growth you must massage (though a tens unit does work if you're not able to do it manually). there's also the stuff the traps in bangkok use called preraria mirifica that makes your breast grow like fukking weeds.. i tried that and found it works too well and made my breasts really sore from growing too quickly. growing pains are good but it can become unbearable at times. all of these things can be bought online for fairly cheap and the bright side to all this are all those bullshit supplements and plans and shit people use to get bigger boobs... they're all composed of these ingredients.. so if you just get the ingredients.. you can skip the middle man and additive bullshit and go straight to the growth. hopefully that helps." ---
Will lactation really make my breasts grow?
Breasts will likely bloat giving them the appearance of being larger, however there have been claims from people having experienced breast growth in both men and women. This is likely due to the growth of milk glands inside the breast, but the size of your breasts does not hinder the ability to produce milk. Petite sizes (especially in pregnancy) can produce just as much milk as any other size.
What about trans or boys? Can they induce lactation?
It has been known that men can also induce lactation on oneself it just may take more effort, diligence, and time.
I've heard of stories where men induce to breastfeed babies and while I'm unsure of the amount of milk or how large the breasts may grow if you try to induce if you are a male and this applies to you please share us your stories and process.
I have little information on this however and as a note I need to do more research on this aspect of lactation.
Can I stop lactation once it's started. Will my breast size go back to normal?
Tapering the amount of supplements you use or completely stopping use all together will help cut off the amount of lactation after you've started to produce a stead amount. Furthermore make sure that you've left plenty of milk in your breast after a lactation session as lactation is heavily influenced by demand. Which is as to why continued pumping/suckling is key in trying to induce it.
Picture always reminds me of my ex. So similar looking. My fetish side wishes I had gotten her pregnant (we actually shared a pregnancy fetish) but every other part of me is glad I'm not with her.
Don't know if this has been posted before, but if taking Pueraria Murrifica and are a genetic male, DO NOT exceed more than 1-1.5 grams a day. Anything more than that and you're risking you're health, and promoting prolactin which will slow or even completely stall growth. Pic related, I'm a genetic male currently at about 1/4 - 1/2 through the first stage in pic.
Some more lovely breasts giving us lovely milk.
Should I continue? And please ignore my shitty filenames.
Wish I had someone, but I'm glad that you anons who have someone already are able to enjoy them.
Not that anon, I would assume pills as well, but the recommended amount I've seen for genetic males around the internet match that claim. Plus, most people feel incredible soreness from growth if they take 1000mg or more.
This goes for everything herbal/hormonal in the thread, you should consult with a physician before doing stuff like this. Not that it will kill you unless you see one, but better safe than sorry.
I am not an expert on the subject and I'm only posting the small amount of information I've learned over the internet because I'm interested in seeing what others know on the subject and have to say. That being said before taking any supplements such as the pills listed I can't stress it enough to check with a physician before use.
Nice to see this thread again.
I had a go at doing this a few months ago. I was starting to feel a little like something was happening but I stopped since manual stimulation was quite painful and tiring for my hands, plus it's quite slow and tedious.
I'd love to try again but I'm thinking maybe I should try using a breast pump this time... preferably something not too noticeable. Anyone got experience in using these things?
No experience with any of this on myself, but I am curious: Were you using any supplements as well as physical stimulation? As I'm sure you've seen, it's kinda hard to get by with just your hands for that.
If you do get a breast pump, let us know how it goes. There seem to be a few more recommended than others for providing the kind of pressure/stimulation you would do daily to promote tissue growth. I can't remember which now though, but I'm sure some searches would turn 'em up.
Just stimulation. I wasn't taking this too seriously so I didn't go the supplement route. Though maybe I should this time, will see how it goes.
The stories about taking them would be nice data points and interesting to hear another person's take. I've read on a few forums, mostly just to educate myself in case I ever have a friend of mine run into problems with their self image, and like most things it can be a mixed bag. One genetic male who was already really low on testosterone took way too much(Started at 1000mg I believe) for 5 days, stopped and had horrible withdrawl from sudden flooding and sudden removal. Threw away all the bottles he had because it was so bad. Yet others feel just soreness and mellowed moods combined with lower sex drive. Interested to see what your story could be.
Also, breast pumps will only(As far as I know) increase breast tissue and not mammary glands. So your chest might not look as full unless you use supplements too.
TRANSLATION: "I lost... right as I promised..."
"...Do you need... some MooMoo milk?"
>tfw no hucow hex maniac gf who needs to be milked every 4 hours on the money
>tfw you will never go out for a couple errands and miss one of her milkings
>tfw she will never slam you against the wall when you get back and shove her tits in your face, panting and begging for release, nearly smothering you several times as she locks her hands behind your head so you can't pull away until she's empty
time to end it
This is an edit I made of 3 pre-existing pictures. I hope it's good.
Not that anon but I just started friday 13/3, 3 days of 2 times 2 300mg pueraria mirifica capsules and I am starting to feel a slight soreness. I'll try to keep you guys updated.
Soreness in 3 days? Dang. Definitely keep us posted somehow, anon.
Could always learn how to bind your chest and do it anyway. Of course, the other missing factor is not having a uterus; I have always said that is the one thing I'm glad for. As much as I would prefer the internal sensitive organs so that zippers didn't catch, the bleeding/mucus is a big no.
Also, unfortunately, the changes aren't really reversible without surgery, so having them just to see what it might feel like is not so good. If you're still okay with that and move away from family, live your dreams, anon.
Lactation is one of my number one kinks so I decided to attempt it myself this year. I've been on a VERY infrequent+lazy massage schedule for a couple months now. My breasts are already large (32DD or somewhere in that ballpark) but massaging them has made them change. Nipples are longer, darker, constantly hard, and sensitive to the point where I can almost cum just from playing with them. Actual breast size hasn't shown any significant growth, but they look and feel "fuller", I suppose. When I'm on my period they get so swollen they feel firm, I fucking love the achey sore feeling. I've stopped wearing a bra for 2015 and my chest looks so much perkier, I'm not sure I could go back to wearing one!
I'm a slacker about regular breast stimulation (every 2 hours? u gotta be kitten me) so I purchased a drug called Domperidone on the Internet. It's outlawed in the US and Canada but I found an online pharmacy in Thailand. I've been taking 90mg a day coupled with more frequent self-suckling sessions (best part about having breasts, trust me) and I'm AMAZED with the results. A few days in and my left tit can almost produce an entire drop of milk! After two months of nothing but small clear droplets of colostrum, this is very exciting. I hope to start producing milk in 2-3 weeks, at which point I might buy a breast pump to increase production. Only thing that sucks is my girlfriend is long-distance, and she won't be able to visit and nurse until later this year. Oh well. I'm very pleased with the progress I've made and wanted to share with folks who might appreciate it!
I actually recall studies that said Bra's lower your upper back strength so not wearing a Bra might actually be improving your back strength. Also a part of the study said your boobs become more saggy if you use bras.
Also just think your gf when she comes back can nurse for much longer if you keep draining your breasts. Although I did hear you might have problems with milk leakage apparently that can last for a few weeks or months so you might want to look that up.
Last time I asked this the response was it could reduce in size but I havn't seen much people complain about it.
At one point I tried Progesterone but I just stopped at one point. I did notice that my nipples were starting to ache.
I had a read a thread about it on blandofmilkandhoney(which now requires accounts to view the boards)
There were guys who were doing a regimen of progesterone applied to the nipples. Some were trying to induce lactation without hormones through nipple massage or pumps as well. Some were taking only domperidone and were getting colostrum although they did do breast massages. Now the forum requires you get approved for joining and I havn't checked back in a year.
I really wish there were more sites talking about males inducing lactation. Oh right a lot of the massage guys were taking fenugreek. I saw one mention of that.
I've also seen posts about people who took just Fenugreek and Red Clover and using a pump on a regular schedule induced lactation
>Enjoy breast play with my lady
>Notice she's producing thin clear fluid one day
>Continue breast play often because it's fun
>Last night, sucking her tits in bed
>2-3 distinctly milky and creamy drops come out
The breast pumps should help quite a bit, so if you want to invest, it's not for nothing.
Depends on what you do. Generally, taking things like Saw Palmetto which lower testosterone plus something like Pueraria Mirifica or Fenugreek and other herbs will make your dick get hard less often, but I doubt it will make your dick get smaller per se. I am not a doctor though, so take that with a grain of salt. If you take something like Bovine Ovaries, then yes, it could not only make it smaller, but could also make you infertile. Be careful about that.
I'm sure if you kept a progesterone schedule, you could induce lactation, combined with some phytoestrogen herbs like Fenugreek, Red Clover, or Pueraria Mirifica. Course, that also tends to increase breast size. Not necessarily, but it is a side effect if you're concerned about it.
You lucky son of a bitch. Just be careful about nursing too much, you might make her leak when she needs it least.
I saw this thread and decided to try the tens unit method out .
i should get my shipment today and I will keep posted
i have not started supplements yet, but I do have a partner who will help me with this lucky enough. I will be only willing to use Red Clover and Fenugreek supplements.
Any other suggestions?
If you're male, Saw Palmetto, albeit probably in small doses. It'll help the estrogen bind to hormone receptors normally blocked by testosterone. Otherwise, if you're only comfortable with Red Clover and Fenugreek, then you're good, methinks.
Out of curiosity, are you going for lactation in general, or breast enlargement?
I am a female going for more lactation than enlargement. I am b cups in my best days but i enjoy how i can dress up as a lolita and look like a twelve year old.
Haha, but i understand my breasts might grow and I will have to get a size medium in all my shirts rather than smalls.
My only concern is that i am taking birth control pills.(Or more specifically, I have an IUD) I have an inkling that it will counteract any of this and I will be basically wasting my time.
From what I've researched, birth control shouldn't interfere if it's an IUD. And Saw Palmetto is a differenr herb that wouldn't work better, just differently. And given that you're female, I doubt it'll do much, you already have lower testosterone. Plus, if you don't take it, you have a better chance of keeping your breasts roughly the same size.
So keep to your schedule, and let us know how it goes! And if you're bold enough, pictures are always nice.
Used to be a hucow. Wish I still lactated. :(
I can tell you that breast milk is light and sweet- it's kind of hard to describe. I imagine it would be AMAZING whipped as a desert. With maybe some fruit?
I need some way I can start lactating again without needing to pump at work.
Now that I don't know. Mental blocks I don't normally research, as using herbs to induce hormones generally surpass that.
I'm sure with enough searching though, you could find some. I don't know how much they'll help, but they probably exist.
Never used it, and the fact that it's temporary is kind of a bummer. I also have a suspicion that it's not as nice as having real breasts, but that's just me, no real research to back it up.
Also, finally managed to reply from a real computer, so I can post images when I reply.
This is smexy. I have a weird imagination that when I bench or work out in general I will leak like crazy.
it doesnt derter me from trying to induce lactation and working out. :3
Picture from Deviant Art by DKSTUDIOS05
Hey guys, great thread. Honestly, very informative and vary good natured. Couldn't ask for a better way to spend my work day. Thanks op, you did a fine job. Now, onto my question. How far in can you go on this before the effects become irreversible naturally? I'm really interested in trying this, however my up bringing/ job/ everything that's against a guy having a nice pair of tits, is keeping me at bay. So I was wondering what I could do before it requires surgery/ a pair of conveniently placed lawn shears to return me back to my normal skeletal chestiness.
I am using this Tens Unit and it feels weird at first. (Like a guilty pleasure buzz, any stronger in frequency i might just moan.) it is definitely something that a person needs to get use to in low frequency for a couple of days. Get a tens unit with four patches than two, it does a lot more with two on each breast. It is easier to hide too and with my full time college schedule I do not have time to fiddle my nips.
Do what I did. Get a tens. It is easy to hide and when someone does see just say you have shoulder pain. I use the tens for both joint massage and breast massage and no one knows the wiser. It is very easy to hide under clothing
there is no danger either, the elevtric frequency is not strong or piercing enough toget to theheart.
again i will keep updated since i just started using it this way today
Frequency won't do shit to you, doesn't matter if it's 60 Hz or 135 Hz. The current is what actually kills you, and most models like that have low current. High frequency through that just means a more frequent shock.
All depends on what you're doing.
Breast growth? Want to keep your male libido mostly intact? Stick with herbs like Red Clover, Fenugreek, and others like Saw Palmetto for about a month or two and see what happens. Usually, you won't grow so much that it's obvious, not to mention binding your chest could be in your future. Combined with a Tens Unit or other stimulation, and I'd say give it a month to at least get some small growth. I am not a doctor, so don't take my word for fact, and you should also double check my research and any recommended herbs before you take the plunge.
Actual timeframe: I'd give it about a month to 2 months before something becomes noticeable for growth, and usually able to hide it well. As for your job, while I would say you shouldn't have to lie, a convenient explanation of gynecomastia should net you some pity and some acceptance. Anything longer than 2 months might get to be too big and too permanent. The initial swelling after a one-two month period should decrease if you jump off the regimen, methinks. If it doesn't, it also shouldn't have grown so much, as I've said.
>inb4 you have a friend that is an electrical engineer
>builds remote control for the Tens Unit
>sets it to highest in the middle of you taking a test
I've been tempted to try this. And might some time in the near future.
Online I can't find a lot of stuff on it besides the average thread of people mentioning it.
I saw one video of a woman getting it done.
And I saw one video of a guy getting it done. Sadly I lost the link for it. But he does get some results.
Over all what I've seen, is they'll last 4-6 hours. Physiology plays a lot in this. I've read that some guys can manage a C cup. And most people do 500 - 1000 ml of saline. You want EVERYTHING to be sterile, cause you can get major infections. I can't remember what it's called medically. But if you don't use the alcoholic prep pads, sterile needles, and pure saline, you might be putting potentially harmful bacteria directly in your body.
As for things you need to do it, one person said that you can use the same stuff people use for scrotal inflaction (Which apparently is a more common practiced fetish then people inflating their breasts). But basically, Pouch of saline. IV administration kit. And 18 or 22 gauge needles.
What about Domperidone?
That's just a dopamine inhibitor and from what i've seen is pretty effective at getting lactation going.
I am definitely interested in keeping male libido so i'd probably go progesterone, and fenugreek.
Now this is a toss up. I've heard many people debate this, but a consensus seems to be that PuraFem and Ainterol are the two major brands currently. I think Natureday also sells PM, but most of their stuff is a mixture of other herbs. I'm sure there are others, but the ones most commonly mentioned are Ainterol, which is something like $15 per bottle of 100 x500mg caplets, vs PuraFem at like $30 per bottle of 60 x350mg caplets.
Have read that thanks to the high dosage of Ainterol, people got the uncomfortable side effects of intense cramps, heasaches, anxiety, thanks to the major imbalance. Course, Ainterol also sells powder, so you can start off weak and go up as you introduce more into your body. However, PuraFem does tout it's 60-day money back guarantee for any purchase you make. So it's expensive, but they really want to stand behind it. Having not used either, the best I can say is it depends on how your body will react, you might have to try both. Worst case, you're out $45 and learn that your body shouldn't take high doses of PM, so you should stick to the powder or PuraFem caplets.
Bump because I love you people and I don't want to see this thread die.
Well, I'd prefer to think of it as a properly aged dude than an underage chick.
But since you made a stink, have something even you can enjoy.
Guys can grow long hair, man. Especially if their hormone balance shifts like we've described in the thread. Hair growth pattern changes to become thicker, so it's not impossible.
Besides, it's hentai. Who cares?
What does it feel like for femanons to lactate? Do you feel full? Is it gratifying to let it out?
My family has poofy hair of decent quality. I wish it weren't so poofy, but I'll take the good quality.
Actually, this is something I'm curious about. I wonder if I should resort to reddit, of all horrifying things. But I am curious to see if it's a good relief or if it's just kinda happenening.
Time to get a breast reduction and then report back!
No? Natural is probably an answer I should have expected, it is pretty natural for people, especially women, to lactate. I'm assuming that because leaving milk in the breast makes milk production slow down that your breasts don't get sore from too much milk?
This is unfortunately untrue. As a mom who breastfed and pumped, you want the phlange (the part yhat goes on your boob) to lay on your breast and the opening to go just inside your areola. Almost all of your nipple and areola should be extending through the pump in order to get the best results. A baby gets as much boob in their mouth as possible. It reduces risk for injury to your nipples (cracking, bleeding, not fun. Trust me) and maximizes milk stimulus and production.
Yes, gods yes. When boobs is full feels so good to let down. Sometimes it can be painful, but mostly it feels really good. It's very hard to describe. My husband and I had a lot of fun with the milk and I enjoyed squirting people who didn't expect it.
I'm lactating and not pregnant or have a kid, so my tits get really full and hurry sometimes so I have to milk them or my bf, they hey really swollen up I'm a 34B but can go up to a 34C sometimes, every time I milk them it turns me on it hurts a bit when the nipple is sensitive but otherwise it's great I love it
Erm, I dunno about you, but I don't feel the need to relieve my balls if I don't cum for a few days. You must have a shitload more testosterone than I do.
I think the relief, if there is any, is closer to being blueballed, rather than just not using it.
on the subject of bra's
They can cause the ligaments that hold up your breasts to become weak which can indeed cause your breasts to become saggy, however this is only true to a certain extent. Extreme movement without the support of a bra can stretch out those same ligaments and cause breasts to become much more saggy. Running would be the most obvious example.
So if you plan on doing any sort of physical activity, I would definitely recommend wearing a bra if you would like to keep your perky boobs.
I also recommend doing some sort of daily physical activity and minding your posture in order to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Humans are not built to sit down all day, and slouching is bad for your back, your heart, and even you digestive system. Plus it's just plain unattractive.
So, quick question, is it best to wear a bra then during active hours, and then switch to no bra when you're less active?
Like, if you're doing daily desk work, no bra, but if you were going for a walk (obviously a run would require a bra), a bra is recommended? Where should we draw the line at wearing vs not wearing?
Alright, that's enough. New rule: Don't ask about drugging someone.
Also, we will not explain how to mix these with food, even if you wanted to do it to yourself. The best and most effective way is the direct consumption of pills and use of cream.
Moving on, have something I posted in the /rr/ /gfd/ thread the other day about getting more estrogen in your system. Also, for any guys not used to having estrogen and wants to try this, stick to a workout schedule too. Estrogen causes a lot of fat retention.
Well I can't speak from personal experience, but I would assume you should be able to feel it.
If you think you should wear a bra, then wear one.
I doubt going for a walk would be a big deal, but it might be depending on how well endowed you are.
Maybe ask your doctor.
An IUD is a non-hormonal birth control method and should not affect (or be affected by) any supplements you take.
The exceptions are of course things that might cause an allergic reaction or an infection. Antibiotics can mess up your vaginal flora and lead to yeast infections and other such unpleasantries. But that's about it!
Birth control pills manipulate hormones to fool your body into believing that it is pregnant. This can interfere with attempts to start lactation, but it can also help you along depending on what birth control you're on.
IUDs are usually made out of copper and usually just kill sperm on contact, which is a neat thing that copper does. So if it's a copper IUD you're good to go!
>copper and usually just kill sperm on contact
Wow. Copper is neat! I wonder if you could make a good funnel type thing to put on a dick so that all the sperm gets killed off as soon as it leaves the dick and goes out, like into a vagina. Though, I imagine any reasonable design to do that would probably be highly impractical for sex.
After researching Domperidone, I can say one half of your dream is basically true. Dopamine inhibitors are useful for lactaction and it works fast. Other regimen could include various progesterone creams and so on.
Biggest problem with Domperidone is you have to import it if you live in the US or Canada. No US or Canadian pharmacies are allowed to sell it.
Unfortunately, I can't give you something that will make you cum even half that, but you can take different herbs to increase sperm levels. Quick Google search finds: http://www.increasespermvolume.com/supplements-and-vitamins-for-bigger-sperm-loads/
I think it's kinda funny that Saw Palmetto raises sperm volume but is also a nice anti-androgen.
i have been taking Red Clover and some Fenugreek for only a few days. (400 mg of clover 3xs a day, 610 mg once a day.)
Plus 7 days of tens unit, and god knows how much nipple play.... *snicker, snicker*
And just today I had some leakage on my left nipple after trying the pump for the first time. It definately feels more sensitive than before.
So, I believe i am doing the right thing. Now I am just going to switch with more pumping and use my tens unit just for my back pain.
aaaah feels good.
Thanks. But just a little warning, i noticed that these eupplements do cause a bit of drowsiness the first time.
i know my first couple of days i needed to take a nap to feel better, which is fine and all until you are trying to write down notes in class.
I got use to the dosage and do not feel as groggy as before so it is not a permanent side effect. at least for me. It kind of sucked because i like to excercise two hours, five days a week. Well, i did not hqte it so much since i do have an arm injury(i take no painkillers)
But yeah, i felt like letting everyone know. Again, this could be something only I did experience.
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Oooh, thanks for that. I've read that estrogen influx can cause that? As well as some other issues like anxiety and sometimes what seems to be mild depression. Any of those hit you?
You know what. Yeah, I am not the cheeriest of folks. Haha, and this spring break has been kind of a shitbox.
I am crazy anxious most of the time too. I usually mellow that out with excercise, drawing, music, and etc. Anything that keeps my mind and hands busy.
So that makes sense. XD anyways will keep posted cause I love this thread.
Haha, I was wondering about that. Exercise releases endorphins, from what I last remember, so that might help. Even if it doesn't, having a routine also helps.
Yeah, just be careful with the amounts you take, and also if you keep this up long term, you might want to consider getting blood work done just to be safe.
Are you the same anon that just bought their tens last week, or have you had yours?
The very same, anon. Hahaha
Although, I am getting no breast milk from my right breast. My left nipple secretes a little tinsy bit each time i use the pump. (Which is every 2 hours, 15 to 20 mins session. )
I find it strange but i am sure that is a normal occurance based on a person's body symmetry. I think.. i will do some more research
That's what I'd chalk it up to. You're probably fairly normal, some people are more sensitive in one nipple than the other, and so on. Definitely research how to express with both nipples though, as that'll also help if your breasts ever swell up so that you don't become uneven, haha.
I'm still in favor of pics if you'll provide when you start expressing more, as a progression and noting what you were taking when. No real pressure, this is the internet after all. Better safe than sorry.
I just might need to work harder for my right nipple then.
I would do pics I just dont think the drops are noticeable enough. -.-
>when you start expressing more [milk]
haha, also, I wanted to see if your chest would swell from producing more and more milk, and how much, and how much it would shrink should you stop expressing.
Okay, so I'm part researcher, part pervert, but you get my point. Give it some time and wait until you're comfortable, or don't even feel the need to post pics. I do genuinely think it would good for a visual reference for some people like me who still have a hard time keeping bra measurements straight as well as what people can expect to see.
Are nipple piercings going to hinder lactation development?
Been a while since I've been here. So between my partners suckling and cooking food and tea with fenugreek, I've started leaking like crazy. All my partner has to do is squeeze just a second to get my shirt damp.
And the feeling of nursing someone is amazing, I can hardly compare it to anything else.
I've been hungrier lately and I wonder if that's related to production.
I still want to aim for heavier production though.
Sorry for no picture, iPod and junk
Awesome, a lactation thread! Time to expand my collection!
> so much role playing
> so much male milk
Fuck are you doing, /d/?
Read the thread double dubs. Everything is listed, pick up some supplements and a tens and breast pumps, and follow a schedule of taking supplements and stimulating.
I know it's different strokes for different folks, but I'm always shocked to see some women don't like breast play. Anon, the obvious solution to this is to lactate yourself and have her play with you.
>the obvious solution to this is to lactate yourself and have her play with you.
If not troll, you made me cringe; gratz betafag. sage.
Listen to me instead, grope her breasts while having sex. Give her some pleasure as you touch her boobs, that will get her warmed up for the idea of lactation.
Didn't work at all? Then make another girl who had a baby talk her about lactation. Make her think about the babies AND lactation at least. If she has some long term plans with you, she might decide to try it.
Learn what sarcasm means. That's not the way to do it. You should go back to reddit instead, but I doubt they would teach you the difference between irony, sarcasm, jokes and trolling.
>inb5 "i pretend to b retarded lelelelel"
Honestly don't know, but I think I looked at their ingredients once and it's filled with all the right stuff, just don't know the quantities. I would guess moderately effective, and can be used as the sole source of herbal supplements, to be combined with physical stimulation. Don't have a good guess as to how long you would need to be on it for it to work though. If I had to give an estimate, a month at absolute best case, multiple months on average.
Well, yeah. It's got fenugreek and a bunch of other herbs in it. It's going to be disgusting even if you're prepared for it. Unfortunately, that's also how you know it should work well.
Hey /d/ so yesterday I was talking to my girlfriend about insecurities and stuff (don't worry, she is very secure about herself, it was just one of those days that the topic came up, it happens) and in some of the things she told me about she was a tad bit insecure of her breast size, so after telling her that I love her how she is and her boob size is perfect and all that jazz I told her about how inducing lactation will help her get bigger boobs too.
The impossible happened and she is totally on board with this, my only question is how do I get started considering that we are both college students with no part time jobs :/ also whats the time frame for this to usually start to work?
My last question is what is the best way to get the breast enlargement effect and how do you maximize that perk? Are there some supplements that we should prioritize more than others? Also she is a small b cup. If it matters.
Idk this is pretty much my dream come true cuz its my two biggest fetishes in real life, I found a girl willing to get bigger boobs and start milking and she intends to keep doing it to spice our sex life so any pointers I can get will be greatly appreciated!
And how would that massage work? Fondle her breast as if I was squeezing it while I suck her nipple?
Also concerning the getting bigger breasts thing. What is the best way? Fenugreek and just keeping on the massage and fondling?
The primary goal is bigger boobs (for her, I want both equally although she does want to lactate a lot too)
Oh ok. Btw, how long on average more or less do you think it takes until she can start making milk and her breasts get visibly bigger. She's b cup but I think some nice d cups would be a realistic goal. She also has perky tits if it matters.
I know patience is key with this but seeing some progress would really help get some motivation. What things should we look forward to that should be happening in the following weeks? Also this is considering the lack of use of any supplements.
However I'm thinking of taking some budget out to start buying these supplements. Can I get them in local pharmacies or do I need to go online to get them?
You can go to local herb shops, but the easiest and probably more convenient way is to order online.
Good luck! Also, if you were just going for breast enlargement, seriously, Pueraria Mirifica for about 2 months and she should be C-D cup. Otherwise, it might take a while to see significant progress, but progress should definitely be there if you're using some supplements. Anything estrogenic to help with growth, also eat protein and have her do some mild pectoral exercises. Those muscles will help keep her boobs perky.
Oh, well I'll check that out. Thanks dude!
Wow in 2 months that sounds fucking amazing. I will take that into consideration heavily. I want milk too however, so yeah. I really want best of both worlds and so does she.
Fenugreek and the Pueraria supplements shouldn't affect one another right? If not I'm pretty much not gonna buy those things asap. She's already doing the 20 minute sessions milking both her boobs. Thank you so much.
Yeah I hope so too, I will make sure to keep this thread updated or at least say of the progress done so far.
I also hope that fenugreek and pueraria don't affect each other. or give out bad side effects for taking them both together. I guess time will tell.
They shouldn't conflict, but it'll be a lot of estrogen. PM is really strong, so be careful with how much you give her. I'm not sure what else Fenugreek does for lactation, so I'll have to re-research what else it does and if I could recommend something else.
I wouldn't double up on Fenugreek and PM, just to be safe.
Well how much should I give to a girl that's around 5 foot tall and 125 lbs? or at least how much dosage of PM should she take?
I wanna prioritize breast size, milk can wait a bit longer. But I do want both.
I would give her probably around 100mg twice daily. If you notice that she's not making much growth, step up to 150mg as long as the rest of her health is alright. Women naturally have more estrogen than men, so they need to take way less to feel the effects. Also, make sure that the doses are about 12 hours apart; don't make it 200/300mg all at once in a day.
If she starts to have a decline in any health, step down to 50mg, or completely off. It will take some time to completely detox her body from the drug if she does get negative effects, however, those seem to be rarer cases. Better to be safe than sorry though!
I should've had twice daily anywhere I give measurements for the recommended amounts, sorry! Also, by not noticing growth, I mean if she admits she doesn't feel anything and her health is still stable. Of course, if her health, i.e. mental health in particular worsens with mood swings, anxiety, or something out of her nature, stop immediately, and let her body detox.
It might also be worth visiting a healthcare provider for routine checkups if this is going to continue or you do have to go to 150mg x2 daily. Again, not to scare you, just rather you be safe than sorry. Same thing with having women check for breast cancer: it's not that it'll get every girl, but better to check than not.
>tfw your girl gives off her first proper squirt of milk
>obviously liked it
>despite previous hesitation
>wants me to keep sucking and playing with them
>had to stop because sore
I love this. This fertile little goddess didn't even need any supplements or any encouragement than regular breast play.
> No supplements
> lactates anyway
Goddammit, I want a gf that I can do this with. Also, I'm not sure if it'll happen because she wasn't pregnant, but normally breastfeeding releases oxytocin, so the mother becomes more attached to the child. Let us know if your gf becomes more attached to you in loveydovey ways, m8.
my wife's tasted like the leftover milk from eating a bowl of a specific cereal that i cant remember...cornpops or honeysmacks? this was ten years ago. but it was sweet/sugar like. she also smokes weed and waited until several months after birth. that changed the taste of the milk very quickly. tasted like the smell of slightly dirty gym socks. which is probably why our little switched over to solid/rice cereal with no fuss. :(
Late response, but yes theres been a slight size increase and they feel a bit firmer, but more than anything else they feel sore
Soreness is usually a sign of growing pains, just as general information. Congrats on your chest is getting bigger! Combined with your chest already leaking, and I'd say you're on the right track, and make the rest of us envious.
Shouldn't hinder your milk supply but you'll be WAY more comfortable with pumping/nursing/however you choose to express, if you remove the piercing. also, milk will come out those holes too.
Works really well if you are already lactating. A large portion of milking is that people don't drink enough. So that tea helps. Kinda expensive though. You can get the same results buby drinking a lot and taking fenugreek imo. It's cheaper too.
Yeah. Not shit, but not good either. I definitely had to fake my "tastes good" face and dirty talk. It was a bit of a boner killer. The easy thing was to play with her tits, expressing by hand while fucking her (her on top) and getting covered in milk. She would easily produce 6oz a side during that time, so it's not like it was a few drops that tasted bad. It was the majority of the milk.
With the 2nd/3rd kids the taste from weed wasn't as potent as the first go around. Maybe it was a different type of weed. I don't know as I don't smoke it.
This last time eating lots of veggies, salads in particular, drinking water helped keep her production up through a year. At her peak it was 10-12oz a side. Draining her on mornings like those were... filling. The biggest turn on besides draining her chest was knowing that it releases "love" hormones, natural high. Like others mentioned, to her it also felt relieving to have them drained. Even when she wasn't horny she still wanted to be drained. She couldn't articulate it well either "how" it felt, just that it was extremely relaxing to have it done.
Well I was thinking starting with 3 pills of fenugreek a day with around 450mg of pueraria a day. One pueraria pill split in half and taken at the morning and during the night. I know you said 100mg since shes a girl but I've been reading around a bit and some women take 900mg over two months and their bust increases considerably. like a cup or two.
That's part of what we want. Also where is the best online supplier for both fenugreek and pueraria that's cheap?
I found some results on ebay from sellers that have 99% rating and shit but I'm still hesitant. I wanna see if anyone can send me proof of results to verify. Ideally of both milk and bigger breasts. It would help motivate us and ease the nerves from spending money on stuff that might not work.
Do they? Well, that is a bit distressing. I mean her mom has regular sized tits maybe a bit bigger than my girlfriends, I never really noticed. She might also be a B cup for all I know although I wouldn't be surprised if she was a small C.
Both her grandmothers were sort of big according to something she told me the other day, like apparently huge when compared to her B cups. She told me this when we were talking about this topic. I'll ask for her mothers breast size to have an idea. And maybe her grandmothers. But considering that, that also means they haven't reached their "full potential" either so do you think we might get at least a D cup with a year of pueraria? We're fine with C's but D's or E's would be very nice.
She isn't stuck with same size as her mother. Most likely she will gain at least a little more than what she's at now and possibly quite a bitn if you're lucky. That's with continued massaging and supplements of course but she'll almost definitely see an increase.
I'd disbelieve you, but there was a chick I was casual friends with back as a kid who started to lactate through her tops sometimes after puberty hit her like a ton of bricks.
It was actually really hot but I get why that wouldn't be something you'd ever, EVER want people to pay attention to when you're 15.
Just be careful with the dosages. If you've read for higher amounts and are comfortable with it, go for it. I've only read to use small amounts for women, especially since they can be estrogen dominant and have adverse reactions, like moodiness and anxiety. Small doeses are good to start with. I'd work your way up to the dosage you want, so that her body doesn't go through a freak out phase of way too much estrogen than normal and have horrible rebalancing issues.
Also, I can't remember if this was stressed in previous posts: for good growth, have her eat more protein and consume more dairy products. Protein helps those tissues build and the dairy had growth hormones in it to help stimulate it.
As I'll always say as a nagging friend, just be careful with dosages. Your girlfriend is on the smaller side, but if you take the appropriate precautions and measure it all out, you should be fine. Again, if you plan on keeping her on this for that year and possibly more, I would recommend having her get a checkup just to make sure she isn't having health problems. Ideally I'd day check up every few months, but this is mostly safe herbs and I'm not sure if you guys necessarily want to see your doctor that often.
Yeah the only problem with going to checkups is getting the money to go to one in the first place. Being college students and all we are at the moment still living with our parents since our collages are close to our homes. Therefore thanks to that getting that kin of money is a hassle. We both have schollarships that lets us study for free but those schollarships require for us to dedicate time to certain activities so we can keep benefitting from free collage. I'll see what I'll do. Last time she got checked up I know she was healthy and didn't have any problems but that was over a year or two ago haha.
I think I'll start slow and then if she shows no problems with the dosage I'll keep increasing bit by bit.
Hmm. Well that was the idea ya know? Continued usage of the supplements to make them permanent. Hmm. I found out that both grandmothers of hers was at least D cup and maybe even more.
Does that mean that we're likely getting to D? Idk the wording of this post is scaring me heavily haha.
Can anyone recommend a specific tens unit to use for breast enlargement purposes? Preferably one I could get off of Amazon.
I have small A cups, and would like to get them up to a B or C. . . Or larger, but I'm trying to be realistic here.
Not when it comes to tissue growth. We're basically instigating a second puberty even in women, which will cause breast growth. Besides, if genetics had it's way, dudes couldn't grow boobs, right?
Ah, right, college students. Yeah, at this point then, I would just preach safe practie, and whenever you are able to be seen for money or using a company's insurance when/if you get jobs soon is recommended.
Otherwise, you have the right idea, just be sure her family won't freak out when her boobs are as big or bigger than her mom's, haha.
Wow so I should keep in mind that it could go for an even larger size if we get lucky? And at the very least she's definitely getting to a full c. Nice.
We already got that covered. Another growth spurt lol. I mean she's a month away from 19 so it's not unheard of. I turned 20 like 2 months ago.
And apparently her mom is the same size as hers. But still, that means we are gonna get some increase in cup sizes since both grandmothers were/are huge.
Good one! Yeah, that'll cover it nicely. And the herbs should actually have a good effect seeing as she really is still developing.
Definitely hope to hear from you on occasion when you start her up on this. I'm curious to know what the results will be. Also, good luck with your studies! Scholarships are a pain to maintain but a godsend if they cover the expenses.
I will be posting on this board under the same tag detailing the process. I do hope I'm not wasting my money here haha n.n I hope by next week to be able to buy the supplements. I will buy them on ebay. I just hope they come with some discreet package. My mother should not know about these things.
Haha, yeah, I know that feeling.
Not that anon, but at 15, I'm pretty sure I'd just have tried my best to ignore it. It's not polite to stare and it's awkward as hell for the girls, so I would've left it alone.
Of course, here I am in a thread about making it happen to adults, but at least they consent to it.
One, it was more like mid to late teen years rather than childhood. I said kid I guess because I met them when we were like 11.
And two, no, not that kind of relationship though in retrospect I kind of wish there'd been some shitty makeouts behind bleachers or locked doors and some tit handling. But that probably would have been super weird, given we were just those kind-of-friends who know each other due to being part of someone else's close circle.
I also knew a different chick who had the most hardcore macromastia I've seen before or since irl (not counting online, where we all have seen bigger I'm sure) and that was even harder for me. I'm a tit guy followed closely by being an ass guy. She seriously went from nothing to small tits early, then suddenly small to giant to absurdly giant over the course of like five months years later. That was way harder to not be a creep about.
Those make up 2/3 of my 'irl /d/-character' experiences, so I don't know if I'm just more randomly lucky or if all people run into random shit like that sometimes and don't file it away. Image slightly related, the second story kind of felt like that to watch but with less tall going on.
Seriously, it was so fucking hard to not be weird. I should have fucking asked her out or something.
Wow, way to ruin a perfectly good .gif
Today is a good day. I talked my gf into trying lactation stuffs ( though she was hiding that she loves the idea and shares the fetish ) we are planing on going o' natural and work on stimulating milk production with massages and lots of nipple sucking. she is already kinky as hell so this is even better.
I had a weird sensation in my right nipple today. It felt distinctly wet like it was leaked a little, but my shirt was not wet, and when I felt my nipple, it felt dry. Weird.
I've actually had that feeling before, and I'm a dude not on this regimen, and even before I stimulated my nips. No clue what happens, been on either side for me. I think it might just be tiny amounts of milk flowing out, because my chest does get a tiny little amount of crust later, but I have no clue and never had it consistently.