Role-Reversal and Gentle Femdom General
>preferably recommendations that are on-topic
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>What is Role Reversal?
Old Role Reversal Map:
irc channel: irc.irchighway.net , #gfd
/rr/ and /gfd/ megapastebins:
Hello /gfd/, any good artist you'd reccomend to commission?
also, how are you doing today?
Just dreaming about a small domme to protect and serve like a loyal knight.
Pretty good, got not much to do that is urgent and just need to work on school a bit.
Having no obligations pressing on you feels pretty good.
I'm pretty sure everyone does that...well I know I do and my mother used.
>browsing Tumblr for porn because that's all it's good for 90% of the time
>bdsm tag is almost entirely M/f with daddy complexes memeing up the place
>aftercare tag is completely M/ff
>femdom tag AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahahaha...ha.......
>"gfd" tag barely exists and crosses over with some fashion line, The Grateful Dead, and some other unrelated bullfuckery
>"Gentle Femdom" turns up mostly images posted and reposted a billion times ITT with 20% of the content not gentle or even femdom
>"Role Reversal" has a bunch of crap from a TV show that doesn't matter and other unrelated bullshit because fuck you
Most of us are screwed, aren't we?
I wish these stereoscopic images weren't so difficult to enjoy. I'd have to get really far away from my screen in order to make my eyes naturally cross the images. Or if I force it, it gets all blurry and I can't see anything.
I posted it last thread but I will post it again here.
>tfw I'm a bara man
>tfw My biggest fantasy is to play the bodyguard/royal knight role for a little domme
>tfw She loves to ride on my shoulders
>tfw no one to protect while harboring a a burning love for
> buys Monster Hunter 4 for DS last night
> makes a new character
> character is male, and therefore kind of Bara
> I put the character in the 'skimpiest' male outfit, and make it pink
> I tend to do shit like this in videogames, usually for "the lolz"
> GF of just < 8 years sees, and asks if all the costumes are like that.
> I show her the other 5 outfits, then go back to the one I chose
> GF says "There's something about a muscly guy in girly clothes that's kinda hot. Am I wierd?"
> Me: "Of course not, lol."
Crucial side note: GF is on the boyish side and identifies as genderqueer. Our relationship has some notable /rr/ material going on- usually I cuddle up to her, or rest my head on her lap sort-of stuff.
As a fetish keking is okay. It's racial NTR, i can't see how you get off from it.
personally though, fucking ew, no i don't want to watch the person I LOVE get raw dogged by someone who barley knows her and could care less.
As a black male and the whole race thing surrounding keking (because the main variant is black bull, white couple), no I don't want to implicate myself in your apologist fetish, slavery was years ago, don't it again, we're cool, yes i'm sure I don't to fuck your wife.
the only time I can see myself in a 3+ person relationship is a /GFD/ or /y/ type of harem, or a Trap/m/f relationship...
honestly even then i'm mostly monogamous, not that im against polyamory
Hopefully this Camilla doujin will get translated some time.
What do you think of subs wetting their pants?
Is it too extreme?
I have this fantasy where my dom is spooning me while we are sleeping together when I suddenly wet my pants. This will embarrass me immensely but my dom will just tell me to take a shower while she changes the sheets and then we'll get back to sleeping together.
Genuinely relieved and confused at the same time.
I just stumbled across one of these threads recently and it got me thinking about my past relationships and why I've never really been comfortable.
Now it makes sense, and I'm relieved that I'm not alone in this, but I'm confused because of the whole "what now?" deal.
Any of you fine folks got any wisdom to share?
It never did, there was already a negative reaction to that assertion. Stahp projecting it.
Just woke up at twelve to a text that my only class for today is cancelled. Feelin alright.
It's just fucking gross dude, why would you want to piss on your dom? Reminds me of a story I heard on fetlife where a domme went on a date with a guy and he fucking pissed himself in her car while whining 'oh mistress mistress I can't hold it i'm so sorryyyy'. Obviously he was getting off on it. I really hope you're not that autistic, anon.
Maybe this one is better, its the flipped version. Its not the best one i have.
Thanks anon, but that's not the problem. The images are just too large. I'd have to sit several feet away from my monitor just to get my eyes to naturally cross them together. I'm not very good at this stuff.
>you will never have a girlfriend who will praise you when your code finally works
And it probably is the problem because i like parralel view (left eye look at left img and right at right img), i tend to get the versions mixed up. Try it, it might work for you (crossview does the same for me as for you), try it on your phone, its easier.
Also, try ctr - to zoom out
>Wouldn't touch a guy with a piss fetish with a thirty foot pole.
Makes me wonder what the longest feasible pole for pegging would be. In theory, a lot of otherwise untouchable guys could receive the (butt-)love they so long have been deprived of.
Dude, no one ever said you shouldn't be offended by the fetishes of others.
Peeing on someone's property is pretty offensive. Grow thicker skin or go to a hugbox, 4chan is for adults.
Why do I think these super specific questions are to give you ideas for the fantasy scenario fap you're planning on having?
I'd help him, obviously. Probably help him sit down somewhere and access the extent of the damage. Then I guess I'd help him into the car and drive him to a clinic or back to his house to treat it depending. I don't have much medical knowledge so I'd probably have to google what to do with my phone.
>You've managed to go out in public as a couple. Finally.
This really should not be a "major achievement" imo
>Your partner twisted a limb, what do?
Go into hulkmode and carry her to the fucking car to go to the hospital of course. I may not be strong but i can still carry my 90kg friend on my back if i have to, so i sure as hell can carry any girl i would date.
Whats with these ultra-specific question?
Doms, question: What would you do if your sub was dressed as a clown, had a freak bubblegum accident and now had a purple carrot lodged in his ass?
When I was 16 to 20 I was all but full-time in girls clothes. I was cute and passed easily. I had a wonderful relationship with a much older woman, five years older. She was an MP in the Army, tall, strong but feminine and beautiful. She could pick me up and throw me over her shoulder. I was her plaything, a beloved and treasured toy and kept as such until she was deployed to Afghanistan then stationed on the other side of the country when she got back over a year later. I still talk to her but with distance and time its not what it was anymore. I'm also older and not as cute and don't pass like I used to...
You are getting triggered by somebody expressing a sexual fantasy and telling me to grow a thicker skin and leave 4chan ?
We are on /d/ for fucks sake, do you not see how retarded it is to bitch at other people's fantasies in a place like this ?
There's nothing 'offensive' about pissing on someone's property if they don't mind, which the domme in his fantasy most certainly doesn't.
Basic first aid most likely.
Why ask questions if they don't lead to fapping?
But no. I like cute gfd couples doing cute things. A lack of media in this realm drives me to pester these threads with it.
It's also really nice to see a dom trying to help her helper. Do you think he'd be pittiful?
What would you expect if it was you with the injury?
>Doms, question: What would you do if your sub was dressed as a clown, had a freak bubblegum accident and now had a purple carrot lodged in his ass?
Gently shift the carrot back and forth under the pretense of trying to remove it, gradually getting rougher until I'm straight up pegging with it all while making terrible circus puns.
>Do you think he'd be pittiful?
Dude, what the fuck are you smoking? Life is not a fetish, if your friend or partner breaks her fucking legs, you help them. If your entire relationship hinges on a powerdynamic so insane that you would consider not helping your injured partner, i pity you.
> Subby's in bed, sprained ankle.
> I've gone full dr. sexy on him up until now. Even made a leg cast for him.
> He's been playing it up for me. Thinks it's cute i'm trying to take care of him instead the other way around...
> Inter the room in cowgirl outfit with my little bb gun
> Start talking to him like a horse.
I don't know, seemed funnyer in my head i guess.
Sounds to me like stealth "center of gravity" copypasta.
Given that women often have substantially lower sex drives than men, do you think that it's important that a male sub earn more money than his domme so that he can contribute something non-trivial to the relationship? What else might he contribute.
This question is sort of predicated on the view that traditional relationships are an exchange of sex for resources. Is that too cynical?
>What else might he contribute.
I don't contribute anything other than my own companionship into a relationship and wouldn't expect my partner to contribute anything other than this either.
If I wanted an exchange of sex for resources I'd got to a whore.
Not all relationships are the same, comes with being a diverse species. My view is this, whoever does what is up to the couple. There's really no point fretting over the little stuff like if the man should always take out the trash or who should be the bread basket, or should the man or woman be the one washing the dishes. It's really up to the couple on what they want to do. It's why communication is so important, shit my dad does nearly all the cooking and it's my mom that's working. Not all couples are what we would call "traditional."
Pretty sure that was a loaded question, not too sure.
Sisters ~Natsu no Saigo no Hi~
If I'm not mistaken it's a fully animated visual novel by Jellyfish not translated though. You can find all of the erotic scenes on streaming sites. Prepare for disapoint though this is the mom and she only has one sex scene and to be honest it's one of the best ones.
>women often have substantially lower sex drives than men
That's a myth, women just aren't as loud about it as men. In fact the ability to unlimited orgasms makes many of them have higher sex drives than men. We all have seen guys in internet complaining how they have trouble keeping up with their gf's drive.
Next time though, you can just reverse image search it by clicking on the blue arrow next to your post number. Remember kids, all requests go to /r/
I admit it's a possibility. Some discrepancies are explainable by social factors. Women don't masturbate as often as men though, that's a big data point against the equality theory. Also, women have fewer paraphilias, and the ones they do have seen to be less intense. You're much less likely to see a woman than a man chilling out on a place like /d/ for the mere reason that she felt like looking at, say, NTR that day.
Hypothesis: Modern marriages are failing because moden work life drives partners apart.
>you will never have a sub so big he can heal up in the time it takes to walk across him
Depends on the relationship. But generally, if you're with someone who complements you (e.g. sub with dom) then you're already contributing quite a bit. Money isn't everything.
Particularly in /rr/ she might prefer being the breadwinner anyway (unless you're both working shit jobs. Damn reality getting the way of things again).
>What else might he contribute.
Doing chores is a popular one, in general making life easier/more comfortable. Not only is it convenient, but it shows you care. If you want something that's analogous to a housewife being more accomodating when she'd rather roll over and sleep, consider being more accomodating/enthusiastic about what cree^h^h^h^hfascinating fetishes she has.
Plase no, not this shit. Individuals buck trends of course, but pretty much all research ever paid for by morons says that men want it more, want it more often, have more fetishes, fantasize more often, watch more porn, masturbate more, and so on.
this is my case now as well; my gf takes a medication for her galbladder that kills her sex drive. Its either that or be in constant pain. How did her life get so shitty all of a sudden I have no clue, if its not one thing, its another. She had her single kidney temporarily fail and was reliant on dialysis until it recovered and it caused damage that took ages to heal. That and she works as a nurse in training to be a neurologist. She just doesn't have time for me anymore and I cannot help her at all. Its infuriating. She barely speakes to me now, shes always tired.
I'm going to lose her arent I?
>women often have substantially lower sex drives than men
>Women don't masturbate as often as men
When compared to an average not-porn-addicted man they do, female masturbation doesn't need to have penetration, like you seem to think. They can do it just by rocking themselves against a table corner, playing with a showerhead or hundred other ways.
>women have fewer paraphilias, and the ones they do have seen to be less intense.
>You're much less likely to see a woman than a man chilling out on a place like /d/
You're assuming every anon here is a man if they don't mention their gender.
>You're assuming every anon here is a man if they don't mention their gender.
Women use porn less than men, ergo women are less likely to be on a board dedicated to porn. 4chan's demographics are also skewed male. Unless you're saying that /d/ just has an abnormally large female population, it isn't difficult to assume that "you're much less likely to see a woman than a man" on this board.
>There is literally no girl on earth that can keep up with my sex drive. Not even two girls combined.
So you're pretty much begging for two girls to put you in chastity and only unlock you when they both are in the mood, right?
>doesn't require penetration
I didn't imply that it did, and your point is also irrelevant. Whatever method they prefer, they do it less.
Bull fucking shit.
>You're assuming every anon here is a man
I'm not. I know there are women here. But there are less.
i think you're missing the point of some old study
basically their point was that most girls used their imagination as fap fuel and didn't enjoy "classic" porn much
now here? most of the time it's just random H images tossed around, sounds pretty different to me
Im a guy and imagination is much better to fap to. Maybe i have a vivid imagination, but i can almost feel myself in my imaginary place.
Sometimes i fap to the fantasy of being a girl and being fucked, which works somehow and gives me a sensation inside of my body, even though i have no idea what it would feel like.
So, do you fantasize about being a dominant girl with a submissive guy?
Whoo, accelerated graphics port!
I fantasize about being fucking silly by a disembodied dick/dominant girl with strapon. Hard for me to get off to being a dom when im a sub. I can cum, but it doesnt feel good.
There are two levels of attraction and horniness: physical and mental.
I get turned on when i see a naked lady in pretty much any porn scenario, i can easily get off to it but the feeling is less than when i am eating KFC.
Meanwhile, i get hot, flustered and incredibly hard when i see a dominant girl, even with clothes. For some reason, getting off takes a little bit longer than with shit porn/girls, but after i nut i have to recover for a minute or two.
>I fantasize about being fucking silly by a disembodied dick
You gave me the silliest vision of a guy rifling through his dommes stuff, opening her dildo drawer, and being set upon by a swarm of disembodied dicks that squash him down under their weight and take turns working his holes over until his domme comes home.
Now THAT deserves a "good boy."
No, that's actually my least common combo, I dunno if I've ever fantasized about that actually. If I think about being a girl I'm always subby, but vanilla. If I think about being a guy with a girl, I'm usually sub, hence /gfd/, but occasionally quite dom.
>and being set upon by a swarm of disembodied dicks that squash him down under their weight and take turns working his holes over until his domme comes home.
Please anon you can only make me so hard. Being a slut is actually pretty hot to fantasise about, i highly recommend it.
Thank you a million, having a shit day and this is the only motivation i have right now
I have a super-libido towards my SO (probably hopeless romanticism) and great self control too, but just knowing the cage is on is almost unbearable, does drive me crazy though so I guess i'm not totally opposed....
I'd be [REALLY] glad if I found someone who had more stamina than me. There's nothing better than a body rocking orgasm followed by teasing
"What happened to all that stamina?"
"I'm still hungry hun"
"Aww you can cuddle me... I won't mess with you.... much"
... and on that note, time to type
To whichever anon posted that cage fighter wife story: MOAR(please)
Good on you dude! Become the best bara you can be!
>What do you think of subs wetting their pants?
I'm a domme and I kind of love it. But it'd have to be in a controlled environment AKA the bathtub.
Think this one is the only one left that's missing, not sure.
I've had a higher sex drive than most guys I've dated. That doesn't always apply.
And there's plenty of things you can contribute to a relationship other than money, I don't need to date a guy who earns more than me. How about being a good cook? Giving great massages? Having a nice voice so I can hear him singing around the house? Being a great dad who spends a lot of time with the kids (if we have kids)? There's all kinds of things. Some of them might sound trivial to you but those are all pretty good things to me.
Oh anon! You'll make me cry! That's so very sweet.
Why are you with someone you hate???? I will never understand men that do this.
Series of poor decisions, I'm stuck living with her and trying to push my way through school at the same time. If be lying if I didn't admit that anticipated sex wasn't a factor but even that's a distant memory.
Oh, I'm a bit late.
>Garden of Words
>Witch Craft Works
>Madan no Ou to Vanadis
>Morobito: Guardian of the Spirit
>Monster Musume no Iru Ichijou
>Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii (The world is still beautiful)
>Akame ga Kill*
>The Pet Girl of Sakurasou*
>Danna ga Nani o Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>Tasogare otome x Amnesia
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
>Mysterious Girlfriend X
>Altina the Sword princess
>Kono Onee-san wa fiction desu
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Arakawa under the bridge
>Tramps like us
*/gfd/ is not the main focus of the story. Don't read/watch it purely for the /gfd/, make sure you enjoy it first and consider the /gfd/ a bonus.
Oh, by the way: word on /a/ is that the artist for Witch Craft Works got sick so there's no update this month. Two months ago there wasn't an update either, probably for the same reason?
It isn't limited to men, though. Infatuation/expectations at first, then too late to back out after things turn sour.
Another factor could be general loneliness, or believing that you NEED to be with someone to be percieved as worth anyting by society (or believing that you need someone to be happy).
>Another factor could be general loneliness, or believing that you NEED to be with someone to be percieved as worth anyting by society (or believing that you need someone to be happy).
A while back my mother told me something that sounds depressing at first, but becomes liberating once you stew on it a little: we're all born alone and we all die alone.
Knowing that dying alone is inevitable for us all, that in our last and weakest moments even the highest prince and lowest pauper are equal in the hands of death, is kind of liberating. It no longer makes being with someone about the fear of dying alone or the need to have someone by your side, it makes it an option. Once you realize it's an option rather than an obligation, it takes a lot of pressure off your shoulders.
I hope this helped and didn't make you more depressed.
>I don't wanna make anyone cry. Unless they are tears of joy of course.
You're great. Keep lifting, grill. Keep getting swole.
I've a question that's probably obvious and has already been answered.
I lurk on Fetlife a lot for kicks and whenever it comes to maledom/femsub groups, it's the male dom that usually advertises and has to show their worth.
In femdom groups (that even allow a meat market thread), it's usually males that advertise themselves and has to show their worth. Let's ignore the variable of...desperation. If only for this question.
*Since this is as much /rr/ as /gfd/, is it more the men or the women who want to advertise themselves?*
Depending on the level of role reversal, one might wonder whether or not the femdomanons feel more open or inclined to advertise themselves and show they're worthy owners. Again, let's ignore the desperation cringe posts and people who'd piss in another's car on purpose.
Tears are great. I never feel as relaxed as I do after crying.
I just wish I could get myself to cry more easily
i don't want the pressure off. i enjoy suffering so much i explode on people so they get angry and treat me like trash so i feel the pressure build up inside so one day i have the courage to end it.
>tfw I'll never be a househusband baking cookies and massaging my wife after she gets home from work
alright then anon. what's the most time you've came in a row?
if its more times than me, you win.
Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne, squats for the Bara Queen.
Let's go, boys.
>212 / 63
keep spamming faggots. i'll make a graph
You said that last time you turbo nerd. I still don't see a graph.
>What if my lady absolutely wants a baby?
You don't want a child? Is being a guy who wants a child so uncommon?
I mean, i would not want a child at my age, but definitely when im a bit older.
>I hate the one i'm with so much
I hope no decent girl ever ends up with you. The fact you'd be with someone you "hate" and waste their time makes it pretty clear you're a desperate shitbag.
As for /gfd/ hentai material, has anyone here ever mentioned Allargando's first part and Watashi ga Toriko ni natte yaru? The second is an on-going show and it can be watched on the net with eng sub. The first one is harder to find and I don't know if there's an eng subbed version somewhere, but I have it on my pc and I can post some screenshots later if you wish.
Because heterosexual males don't run much risk of being spammed by creeps when they advertise.
Have you been paying attention to the emails and messages women on fetish sites get sent daily? A lot of them drop out of the community because for every one decent, normal guy there's ten guys who want to lick her armpits.
Kowaii jya nakute, ureshii desu!
I would love for a woman to gently but firmly inform me that we are going to have a baby together, and that I don't have a say in the matter. I'm going to ejaculate inside her on a regular schedule until she gets pregnant, stick around to help raise the child, and that's simply how it's going to be.
Why should a girl advertise when half the guys here are spergs? Or at least, the guys who post reguarly.
We all know there are cool, nice, well-adjusted guys here, but the /r9k/ crowd aren't helping the image. Why should a woman open herself up to the floodgates when she could just read through the subs profiles and try to establish herself which guys are cool?
The malesub community is a little like the furry community in the sense that guys will latch onto it not so much for the main fetish itself but to use said fetish as a platform for their other fetishes. I'm talking diaperfags and stuff.
I know, but before starting a family I would need at least two things that I don't have now:
1) a not temporary job
2) a lady
Building a family at young age isn't easy in my country (aka Italy).
>I would love for a woman to gently but firmly inform me that we are going to have a baby together, and that I don't have a say in the matter.
You really shouldn't. Even if you're on board with being forced into something like that, the fact would remain that she's the type of person to do that kind of thing.
The houses' price isn't as big a problem as not having a secure and lifetime long job. Also basically all of the women in Italy are either subs or strictly bound to traditions saying that the woman must obey her man, thus most women expect an always strong, authoritarian, self-confident and manly man. Basically the exact contrary of what I am >.<
Maybe they can smell the faggotry on you
Have more media that normalize that behaviour. You don't need to fucking brainwash people, just introduce them to the concept and stop demonizing it.
Currently there are very few rr/gfd couples in media and when people think of femdom they immediately think of whips, chains, candles and leather. Having a few couples in mainstream media who exhibit this behaviour and are straight will stop people from demonizing assertive/masculine staight girls and passive/feminine straight guys. Having people know that they are not weird or alone will do wonders.
The only time you ever see submissive or feminine guys is when they are gay and you only see assertive or masculine girls when they are gay. Showing people that being a non-traditional role does not automatically make you gay will help a lot of people be more happy and be themselves more. Just look at all the stories of people who were bullied into conforming to gender roles only to later in life discover that there are tons of people like them.
Also, you sound fucking creepy.
Sorry to hear that.
Maybe you should stop being so autistic.
Time to offset the amounts of whiny white-knight faggotry here with some femdom.
Any content at this point is better than reading creeper posts, homey.
She seems to be actively enjoying what she's doing, so it might not be gentle enough for some snowflakes.
Now she's an edgelord. She can keep Edgeworth edging all day long.
because i'm gatering data you moron. you will have your graph, don't worry. i actually deliver
It was just a fantasy, sorry if I didn't make that clear. It would be extremely hot to role play that sort of scenario with my wife though, once I actually get married and want kids, if we had negotiated like normal beforehand that we were ready for kids.
>Check Sensei Lock-On to see if there's any new updates
>A chapter where the roles are reversed
>Role reversal of role reversal
I don't even know who's reversing what roles anymore.
I sorta wish I could be a trap, but I don't have the face or body for it. I'm stuck being a man.
Most guys calling themselves submissive are full of shit and this is a good example.
Being a sub isn't about fetishes, or being into piss or crossdresssing or being passive because you are scared of social situations or whatever, it's about putting another person's needs and desires first. A sub is someone who enjoys, is turned on and feels fulfilled by pleasing another person.
Most guys will talk about how they love to do anything to please a woman, then completely fucking ignore what she wants and just force their fetishes on her. And this is the NORM in femdom.
Then these same guy complain about how all dommes just want money. Why the fuck would any sane person do that for free?
Chaos faggots? On MY /gfd/? I don't think so!
>Being a sub isn't about fetishes, or being into piss or crossdresssing or being passive because you are scared of social situations or whatever, it's about putting another person's needs and desires first.
I agree, but then there is the kind of a reaction to this where 'true subs' are barely even allowed to have any fetishes or needs of their own. Which is an equally retarded perception.
This is pretty obvious to me, but the last sentence is a bit dumb. The reason people complain about "findommes" is because the whole thing is retarded when you consider the fact that there's no good reason for a submissive person to want to put some random literal whore's "needs" or wants above their own. It's something that I would do for a person I admire and adore, not for every disgusting and unimpressive prostitute on fetish websites. Because even if I did submit to them, it would be meaningless, since it has nothing to do with their actual personality or anything like it.
And now we've reached the entitled dom portion of the thread, where all the doms come together and agree that the sub should in no way have a say in what happens inside or outside of the bedroom.
If you freaks are actually into someting that extreme you belong in /bdsm/ not /gfd/.
Actually, "true subs", as in subs who do total power exchange, do completely go along with what their dom wants and disregard their own fetishes. They're the extreme side of the spectrum. Most people are only a degree of dominant or submissive.
>there's no good reason for a submissive person to want to put some random literal whore's "needs" or wants above their own.
The reason they'd want to do it is because they're submissive you retard. Hardcore submissives literally get off on being told what to do and having their will taken away. Whether or not you fall in this category, it's not uncommon in BDSM. A professional dominatrix WILL take your desires into account when she talks to you before the scene, but some guys will tell her to just do what she wants to them (with a safeword, of course).
>A sub is someone who enjoys, is turned on and feels fulfilled by pleasing another person.
To be fair, subs can get in a bit of trouble with this. It sounds terribly fake to say that you are aroused by helping people be aroused. Kind of makes you sound like a slut.
Plus there is such a stigma with guys who "like a girl for her mind/heart/soul/personality/other metaphysical concept".
That being said, I totally agree and wish more people felt this way.
>A sub is someone who enjoys, is turned on and feels fulfilled by pleasing another person
Yea thats not how this works, its not a one way street. Someone who is a sub does expect you to return the favour at some point. Being a sex slave is not gentle femdom.
Yeah, the 'submissive' part is the wanting to please/obey someone else part. Bottom =/= submissive. Having a fetish =/= submissive. Wanting to be led by your partner and do what they want = submissive.
Signed, t. female switch who's super fucking sick of guys in this thread not knowing how to be submissive. Really, people like >>6540028 look like utter retards from the perspective of somebody who's experienced both sides of it.
I've heard taking zinc supplements is effective. Also drink 8 glasses of water in a day so your body has lots of liquid to turn into seminal fluids. It must be water, no sugar drinks, coffee or milk.
Not that anon, but what do you call someone who is very submissive but only with someone they like a lot? I don't get off on giving my money away to someone I don't know, but it makes me very happy to bring joy and being told what to do by someone I like.
Not all, but I suspect that many who call themselves subs are really dominant, yeah.
Same goes for dommes. Any domme that enjoys mainstream style femdom probably isn't as dominant as she thinks. Because that type of femdom is all about pleasing the guy - the woman isn't even supposed to lust after the guy, just enjoy being put on a pedestal as sex object for some ugly small dicked loser to worship. I see nothing dominant about that and there's a good reason male doms don't do that shit.
The only dommes who think that are either a) after money b) doing it just for ego boost.
My point is that if you claim to be sub while being completely selfish about your kinks, a prostitute is the only one who will want to fuck you. Guys can get away with being selfish if they are dominant, because then they still need to do all the heavy lifting.
But dommes are expected to do the heavy lifting and ALSO not have any desires of their own.
That is basically the only meaningful definition of submission. Obviously in real relationship the subs needs matter too (which is why partners should have similar kinks). But if you don't get that kind of high, sexual arousal or warm feelings from pleasing others, you aren't a sub.
For a lot of people gentle fendom = vanilla with a girl who isn't passive. That isn't D/s and you will just waste time if you use those terms.
This is why we can't have nice things. Post porn and work this out in the bedroom.
Well, you're not supposed to submit to someone you don't explicitly trust - especially not if you're into more extreme forms of submissive and power exchange.
Professional dommes are usually okay as long as they have a reputation and they usually have safeguards in place to make you feel safe, but it's not like everyone uses them. If you're inexperienced, some curious possible-subs do try a dominatrix because it allows them to explore safely with someone experienced who won't judge or give a fuck since they've seen it all.
theres actually a really interesting argument on whether or not the sub or the dom holds actual power in a relationship, and while i think it comes down to just the individuals involved most tend to lean towards the subs holding more power just because of all the things expected of a dom. its fun to delve into.
Japan has a porn genre for women that focuses on the attractive guy and censors the girl or she remains mostly clothed.
Western women have to resort to watching gay porn, they self-insert as the top guy.
That would be what actual /rr/ porn would look like, basically. And there is no market for it.
Eh, I've never bought that argument about subs having the real power.
But it's true that subs get the luxury of being more passive. The dom is supposed to do most of the work. This is much more true in M/f than in F/m, where dommes often are just passive sex objects.
I love the idea of putting a guy on pedestal, spoiling him, protecting him etc. But it only works if the guy is willing to do some (female-style, acting like an attractive prey) seducing and has that genuine, cute need to please.
If you mean otome games, they usually have very dominant guys.
>But it only works if the guy is willing to do some (female-style, acting like an attractive prey) seducing and has that genuine, cute need to please.
God damn, I wish I could find a guy like that.
bing filenames are weird.
i feel generally i have to put more work into it for femdom stuff. it all comes down to the specific relationship but most male doms in my experience are so cookie cutter ill fuck you silly i can only wonder why people like it so much. but most female doms are much the same. Doms in general can easily fall into the sex object role, though passive can be more debatable.
i do love when my bunny acts cute and exposed to try and turn me on, he really does anything he can to try and get me to initiate since it makes him feel better. he's such a girl.
>be submissive guy, like it a lot and happy with it
>dominant obese stinking neckbeard comes along
>i'm not into guys but he demands i give him all my money and let him shit on me
>oh welp, i guess since i'm a sub i have no choice but to go along with it, i'm not a fake sub after
Seriously just kill yourself.
>I love the idea of putting a guy on pedestal, spoiling him, protecting him etc. But it only works if the guy is willing to do some (female-style, acting like an attractive prey) seducing and has that genuine, cute need to please.
this honestly sounds like the dream
I actually find myself identifying slightly more with a lot of like female sub material I come across online rather than with male sub stuff because most of the femdom 'crowd' seems to be more oriented on like service and stuff rather than the submissive being an object of erotic temptation which seems pretty common among M/f circles.
I don't know, probably only found in moonrunes. I've only seen gifs of those porn vids being posted on other boards. Some western porn sites have "women's sections" but I don't know what stuff they have there.
It's kind of sad though that world only recognizes men, gay men and occasionally lesbians (only when it's meant for men's pleasure). For example when you look at news paper sex service ads there's only two sections, men and gay men.
I don't mean otome games, I mean 3d porn.
It's meant to point out that it doesn't put the girl actress on a fetish pedestal, but the guy instead.
>But it only works if the guy is willing to do some (female-style, acting like an attractive prey) seducing and has that genuine, cute need to please.
Hm, this explains a lot for me. I used to be a complete social retard who didn't talk to anyone, and then I talked exclusively to a very charming girl who was really good at that stuff. I didn't really know how to behave with people before then, so I just started copying her, automatically. Now I run into "dominant" women all the time and they come after me.
Nobody said you had to give money to random people you're not attracted to. She said that if you have a shit attitude, that's all you'll get in terms of female ("""""female"""""") attention. You're giving a great example of that kind of shitty attitude right now.
Dommes calling guys "fake subs" for not giving them money have an infinitely worse and incomparably shittier attitude, so that's fine.
>talk to dominant grill for a couple of weeks
>she's really cool and we have a lot of fun together
>umm yea you didn't buy me stuff so you're actually not a real sub
She could have just told me beforehand that she's a prostitute.
ITT: Disgruntled Subs and Disgruntled Dommes Bitching at Each Other.
Right back at you, with your complaining. Or whoever it was. Someone just came in here accusing people of thinking of dommes as "fetish dispensers," which was equally as uncalled-for.
This. Everyone's different, D/s can mean different things for different people, at the end of the day it shouldn't really matter as long as you're both into it and you're not being a shit head.
>Nobody said you had to give money to random people you're not attracted to.
this is basically what most dommes think though
just because they are a dom female and you are a sub male, you should do this
even if there is no attraction other than them being physically pretty
...no? I'm friends with a bunch of dommes anon, literally none of us think this. Stop assuming that scammers on Fetlife have anything to do with actual dominant women, most of them are probably fucking Nigerian men anyway.
Yup, this is the worst. Some people in the BDSM community have this really stuck up attitude that if you don't capitulate 100% to your domme' desires, buyin her things, putting your life on hold, having no limits for yourself, then you're not a real sub and you're just selfish and only in it for your own pleasure. Fuck that. Yes, I may be a sub, but the reason I do this IS for my own pleasure, and hopefully I can reach an agreement with a domme that is mutually beneficial for both of us.
I swear! If you are going to futilely attempt to reconcile the minutia of your fetishes to strangers on AN ONLINE ANONYMOUS IMAGEBOARD DEVOTED TO PORN, at least be so kind as to INCLUDE the aforementioned porn in your poorly executed, largely fallacious, and just plain dumb arguments.
10/10 post sir
I like how you used the word "minutia".
>most of them are probably fucking Nigerian men anyway.
Yes, I thought this was common knowledge. If a domme ever mentions words such as "findom" or "tribute" you can dismiss them as not a real person.
>tfw my pets give me all their money
its a legitimate fetish, its just something you do after youve established a level of trust with your partner, much like everything else rational people do
>Subs are grumpy because nobody spoons them
>Doms are grumpy because they have nobody to spoon
The solution is obvious.
can you guys imagine what this girl's life is like?
>be born female
>get infinite supply of friends, sex, money, as much as you want, without doing anything
>spend entire life having fun without any worries
time to kill myself honestly
fuck this universe
>it's a legitimate fetish
lol kill yourself harlot
Why is it that the end of every /gfd/ thread devolves into this mess of whining and bitching?
I'm switch but enjoy the idea of being a sub to a woman. That means following her lead, enjoying her kinks, and doing a damn fine job at it so I'll be rewarded as well as seeing her be happy and satisfied.
This doesn't mean I can't enjoy my own kinks, and it doesn't mean I should be pampered and taken care of while I do virtually nothing. It certainly doesn't mean hooking up with someone and immediately calling them a term that carries serious weight because that shit makes my shiver.
But I also want to genuinely please and serve outside of the bedroom because I tend to be a worrywart and caretaker if I actually care about someone.
In short, chill the fuck out because I can't fap to this cringe and I can't play Fallout 4 yet because it's still installing. (thanks slowpoke disc)
>hating someone because they use a name
>incorrectly using the term white knight
>supporting illegal actions
>posting off topic images
Someone's mad they didn't get their Pipboy... plus I'm old enough to support my hobby.
That's a good question. I have a serious weakness for both eyes and legs of a woman. Both can be used to incredible stunning effect.
As for my favorite physical feature on myself... I like my hands. They're very skilled, and I'm teaching myself to juggle on top of what they're already capable of doing.
>implying they'll stop this spergatory
>implying they'll ever contribute anything
you should know better:
323 / 99
Doesn't really count as a physical feature, but I love it when guys don't have any body hair. Totally smooth-shaven.
As for myself, I think I have a cute ass... Also nice feet. I'd say legs too but they're too skinny
I'm naturally bara as hell. Bara enough to randomly go "A dining room...!" and "It'd be better if you, the master of unlocking, take this with you".
Funny enough I completely shaved myself for someone back in highschool...granted it took a while and felt awkward, but she liked it. I don't think it'd be out of the question for someone to adapt to doing, should they end up in a real relationship.
A question for women, would you mind being the main provider in the relationship?
>what's your favorite physical feature on a girl/guy?
They're something magical about a woman's hair and legs.
>what's your favorite physical feature on yourself?
>What's your favorite physical feature on a girl/guy?
I'm a sucker for tight abs and some tone in general. Such a shame that's so incredibly rare.
>And what's your favorite physical feature on yourself?
....I'm not obese. That's something, I guess.
No, I'd be fine with being a bread-winner. I wouldn't even mind having a househusband. The problem here is that the latter probably isn't that much of a realistic scenario in this economy, but in theory I'm ok with it.
the solution seems pretty obvious.
drop the /gfd/ from the tittle. it should've been done a long time ago. no more arguing about this subject. /rr/ already covers women being sexually assertive.
or is that word kept just so nobody can say this thread doesn't belong to /d/? because a lot of the posts in these threads don't belong to /d/.
Call me old fashioned, but I adore a nice bust. A pretty face always comes first tho.
Id say I have a nice butt myself. Also, no back hair!
I once shaved myself. Took two or three hours to do it all. I would certainly do it again if someone wanted me to though. It would just take time.
>on a girl
I think toned -ish arms are really, really qt. For big strong bear hugs.
I dunno, apparently some girls like those sort of sharp hip bone things? I have sortof these slender "pianist" hands, not sure if that's a thing too.
Abs, thighs or eyes. can't decide
Eye lashes i guess, i get complimented on them
are you actually complaining about offensive posts on 4chan?
No we're /d/eviants, faggots, or fags. 4channer has always sounded dumb.
It's a chinese knock-off of a cb6000. That was £24. I also have a copy of a holy trainer(with spikes inside) which is more comfortable ergonomically but obviously...not that comfortable. Don't know what that cost, it was a gift.
Would you recommend the knock-off version? And where would I get one? I've never done chastity play and I wanna mess around with it, but not for long-term wear. So seeing the real cages at over a hundred bucks scares me away, especially considering I might not even like it anyway. I mean it's just a small dick-shaped piece of plastic with a lock, what could be so expensive about that?
Then you'll be fine with the knock-off. It works fine, some chaffing so I wouldn't expect it works for long term wear, not that a real one would be that much better depending on what you're doing. It comes with a load of size rings which is good for getting yourself used to it.
I imagine they're expensive because it's quite a complex shape, and in the case of brands it also needs to be hygiene ready material. Of course the fact it;s such a popular specialized product probably means their mark-up is also quite high.
Abs and hips are what do me in but really I'll drool over anything (and gf has it all so that's just gravy)
I'm pretty tall (6') and gf very much appreciates the legs and longtime stringed instrument hands and fingers.
>Really, people like >>6540028 look like utter retards from the perspective of somebody who's experienced both sides of it.
EVERYONE looks like fucking retards when they make vague passive-aggressive statements that no one has a snowballs chance in hell of knowing the exact context of. It's how tumblr feminists can talk for days without getting any point across aside from "I am smug."
Ugh, that feel.
I just want to be kidnapped and raped an amazon. Is that too much too ask?
>tfw i want to make my bf creampie me but no method of contraception is 100% reliable
>tfw don't want kids (ever)
Get the implant. It's more effective than sterilization, and you've got a good chance of not having to deal with bleeding anymore.
If you don't think you can live with a .05% theoretical failure rate, and some 2500 women-years of studies with no pregnancies then I don't know what to tell you. It's more effective than any other contraceptive method out there.
And by the way that's the failure rate for a whole year (.05%) of sex (as opposed to each time you have sex), most of which are caused by people removing the implant. Studies where people use the implant for the whole year (you can keep it in for 3+ years) have a failure rate of 0.001% for the year.
THIS THREAD PLEASES SLAANESH!
This fetish is too vanilla for that faggot, man.
It doesn't matter, Imperial Scum. This is how it starts, first we start with the vanilla, then we go further down into excess... Soon.
I like big butts, wide hips, thick thighs, all that jazz. A domme that teases my dick with a buttjob/thighjob is the fucking dream, man.
I think my best feature is my hair. It's long and soft and flowing and sits well on my shoulders. Also my butt's kind of nice and grabbable, from what I've been told.
Anyone else really like it when the couple is more equal? I'm all for restraints and more serious femdom, but something about the woman taking only slightly more control and both of them being in the moment just warms my heart
Hard to say for the girl cause I love so much about them. But I'd have to say the eyes. There are just some eyes that make me melt
Now for me.... hmm... my lips. I don't know what's wrong with me but they are insanely sensitive. Like right where the skin connects with the lips. If you just lightly trace your finger along that line I will shudder uncontrollably and will have this huge desire to rub them to stop it. Kinda like an inch on super steroids. It's silly but I can even do it to myself and if eventually I'll just whimper and arch my back
Same guy here, I think I found the words of exactly what I want, kinda like in that image. I want to be cherished. I want someone to really think I'm special and love me. I know that doesn't always happen but I think that's what we should be looking for, at least what I am looking for.
Because it's how I feel. I look at a girl and get butterflies. I stammer or blush, my heart races. Getting close to another human being, a wonderful person with a soul and a past and their own likes and dislikes and quirks. It's amazing. I want them to feel just as overwhelmed and special around me as I do around them. I want them to want to get close to me. So many people never experience this. They just hop form one relationship to the next, never really opening their hearts. It might be a pipe dream, a remnant from my abusive childhood, but I want to experience this magic.
Vasectomies are good if he's willing to do it, assuming he also doesn't want kids.
Worst comes to worst and contraception fails, you know you can terminate a pregnancy just by taking a pill now, right? It forces you to menstruate. Traditional abortions aren't really done anymore unless you're stupid and wait so long that the pill doesn't work anymore.
Close, but no cigar. I feel the problem doms have with the "GFD sub" is that, in order to get someone to submit to you, you have to have something they want. In my case I want to be shown (sometimes more than others) physical affection. Most domme can't wrap their minds around it; I blame it on sexual objectification but that's another subject entirely.
I live a voluntarily-poor slacker lifestyle. I'd like a guy to share my slacker lifestyle and only work as little as possible so that we'd have enough to scrape by on. People who work 40 hour weeks don't mesh well with my schedule.
>you have to have something they want
Except they have pussies, which all non-gay non-asexual men want. They don't have to impress you by giving you what you want, they can find a man who will do whatever they want in exchange for them simply playing with him.
Sorry, but women are the rare sex in BDSM, even in vanilla dynamics.
I'm sure she's heartbroken.
And the fact that made you salty only confirms you fall under that category. Granted, not all of us here are self-loathing and fucked up, but I can see why the girls are starting to believe otherwise with all the anons shitposting about how they suck and have no hope of getting a woman.
Sorry if it came off that way. I'm not saying you can't get a girl, just that if you're in a niche community where there are less women and a lot of demand for said women, you have to accept that it's going to be competitive. At a munch, the women can expect to get a good deal of attention from multiple men.
But hey, if it gets too much, one can always give up and learn to like vanilla.
Not rough at all really. I live in a nice albeit small apartment and I have a car and all the typical amenities. I work just enough to pay my bills and allow for an entertainment budget.
Basically I just have to hope I don't encounter a catastrophic expense like needing surgery or getting sued or something. That would fuck me, but damn it, I live life dangerously.