Have I over romanticized NYC?
Is it as /fa/ as I think it is?
I like hustle and bustle and dingy places with character
Been drinking heavily and marathoning Woody Allen movies
my ceiling for rent is 900 a month - all in
could i find that with a roommate or two?
> smells like trash and full of gross people
don't know why, but this is appealing to me.
my favourite standup special is Doug Stanhope in NYC
>having to get around on dirty public transportation
Staten Island is by far the nicest/normcorest, but also the most boring. Not a lot of bad neighborhoods, and the few can be easily avoided.
More authentic non-black/hispanic than brooklyn/queens.
The diversity you want; meaning that its a good mix of working class and wealthy people that aren't of violent minorities.
Also the safest, if you have heard anything about Eric Gardner google it. Police protect the islanders from undesirables.
This. I lived in Brooklyn for 10 years. Been living in Chicago for the last 5.
It's got all the best things of a big city for like half the cost of NYC. And much cleaner. Plus all the street fests and bars and restaurants always opening up.
This so hard. I love it here but all of the above is true of Manhattan.
Even SoHo where all of the /fa/ people are supposed to congregate it's mostly full of moneyboys in their early 20's who are trying way too hard.
I saw a fat asian guy wearing fit related once and cracked up laughing.
Do it OP. It's the greatest city in the world.
I live in Ridgewood, Queens. You can pull off $900 a month if you find roommates. Easier to do in neighborhoods like Bushwick than Manhattan, but there's enough interesting stuff going on in Brooklyn. You don't have to live in Manhattan, and it's easy to take the train in anyway.
I don't know why people think new yorkers are /fa/. Every pic ive seen of the city is just a ton of burly guys in baggy jeans, hoodies, work boots, and army surplus jackets. People dress like theyre in a nuclear winter apocalypse.
That's interesting you say that. I lived in Chicago first and love New York a lot more. Could be because I'm from metro Detroit so maybe I was already used to the Midwest and bored?
I could definitely see myself preferring Chicago once I get a bit older.
It's a misconception born out of all the fashion goes on here. You've got flagship stores for so many top tier designers, NY fashion week, and the insane amount of wealth which allows the elite to wear incredibly expensive clothes.
People neglect the fact that most people aren't rich and many are content with Aeropostale American Eagle usually what I'm dressed innnnn.
You won't find a place in the city for 900, not anywhere you want to live (anywhere below 14th st, because there nothing but tourists, finance douches, drones, and old farts above it).
You can try Brooklyn, but the parts that are close to the city (Williamsburg, Downtown BK) are expensive and are constantly on the rise. You can try Bushwick, but it's next in line for increasing rents.
I'm not talking about studios/1br's btw. I'm talking about a room. Forget about living on your own.
The only totally legit neighborhood is Flushing, since it's impervious to gentrification by virtue of being full of poor Chinese - honkies can't speak the language (neither can I), and wealthy Chinese move to North Brooklyn, away from the peasantry.
Actually, Gowanus, too, since it's a literal shithole.
im a girl from toronto and NY is 1000x better at least when youre young
google joan didion's piece on new york
its only worth living there if you have a good job/are rich. rent is 4x what it is in toronto and seems really competitive in terms of jobs. also you would have to renew your work visa every year or you get deported (huge hassle apparently- happened to an aussie friend and he couldnt even go back to get his stuff)
min wage is like $6 or something there, and i heard its hard getting health benefits there. toronto is fucking terrible (the people especially make it unbearable) but its easy compared to anywhere else in the world esp as a minority
london- high unemployment/rent
scandinavian countries/aus/NZ- racism/more difficult to integrate compared to toronto
i know more than a few ppl who worked in NY/boston/london/chicago and moved back here in their 30s to settle down/start a family. toronto is dull/annoying/depressing but you arent going to starve or anything here
sighhhh i will need to get a good job no matter what T____T
I've been twice in the past year because I loved it so much, I'd say yes.
Staying around Central Park and Greenwich village while, Union and Washington Square avoiding too far east, west and near Time Square because they're not as 'romantic New York' as the rest
you can totally find something below that unless you want a super nice condo in an expensive area or something. you're one person and young- how much time are you going to spend at home anyway
OP. If you're young, have nothing holding you down, give it a shot for a year. You've got nothing to lose.
Most of the naysayers just want to excuse why they don't live there. Think about this: pretty much everyone in any other American city has an opinion about New York--they like it but they like their own city better for x reasons, or they hate it, or whatever. They all feel the need to have an opinion though. Nobody in New York really gives much of a fuck about any other city. That tells you everything you need to know.
you make it sound like OP can just pack his shit and move to NY
getting a visa isnt like picking up dry cleaning- its a long process and he's going to need money to live off unless he has rich parents
the men are 1000x more attractive and better in every way compared to toronto (class, charm, job, attire)
more french people there too
and people in NY are so much nicer than in toronto. they will go out of their way to help you, be nice to you, say hi etc
ppl here dont even make eye contact and only stick to their own friends. ppl here have this holier than thou attitude with this narcissistic douchey arrogance w. no reason to back it up
Toronto is wannabe NY lol
I'm an aspiring cook. Further down my career I will live here probably for work but I would only settle down here if I knew I'd get sous or higher at somewhere amazing
judging from vice munchird,interviews etc. head chefs do fine
>and im probably doing more with my life than you are
Yes, you're getting more cosmetic surgeries done, getting fatter and still searching for some rich husband.
Damn you must be so busy
i have an accounting degree and can program reasonably well. i dont need a guy to pay for shit
and im p skinny now. your jealousy is kinda hilarious (and way obvious). you cant build yourself up by trying to tear others down
less start ups are going public thru IPOs and mainly staying private/being acquired
also in general the culture of new grads is to build sustainable ventures- wall st banking has become pretty unfashionable while tech is glamorized in the media
prob just a bubble tho
Nothing is cool. You just grim and bare with wherever you live. All big cities are the same, so if you are coming from on already than you probably won't notice a difference.
If you are a slow moving Midwesterner you might get a kick out if it.
I hate NYC. Been to various big cities in US and EUR and it's all the same shit.
>i have an accounting degree and can program reasonably well. i dont need a guy to pay for shit
When did you change your mind? I remember some months ago you were all about getting a rich guy to marry you. Guess you're too ugly and no one wanted you since you're bat shit crazy and not good looking. (Even your cousin is prettier than you even though you deny it btw)
You're talking like you know about moving around and shit when you still live with your fucking parents and have never moved out before. Go back to cooking curry and start researching for liposuction procedures instead of lip botox
bitch you dont know shit about me
i moved back in this year only cause of a family emergency
and youre such a fucking loser- why do you care so much about what me or my fugly cousin look like. i dont know who you are and obv dont give 2 shits about your life why are you so obsessed with me- youre a like a pathetic version of perez hilton except you arent even making money off being such a fanboy- your life is just plain sad
and i am goodlooking- just cause i wanna look even better doenst mean i dont know it
thats even worse. pretty sure they go by a quota/lottery system. theres a ton of chefs in NYC already
holy shit shut the fuck up. If his resume is good enough and he's networked properly he's probably already been offered a position. It's not like cooks just go to a city and wing it.
When you're in the career part of you're cooking you'll usually spend a few years at one place until you have somewhere else accept you or offer a career. I know a guy who went from sous at hawksworth and only left when Noma offered a position as chef de partie.
and I can guarantee you Noma is just as sought after as anywhere in NYC
are you fucking KIDDING ME?? "why do you care so much"? dumb whore you made a thread about it the other day posting pics of your cousin and calling her ugly. If you don't want people telling you the truth then don't fucking post pics and make threads about it.
You are not good looking and you're gaining weight. Lets be real here.
Goddamn no wonder you're still single.
fucking idiot the entire thread wasnt about my cousin. you obviously care- fuck off and stop trying to provoke me/get my attention obsessive loser
and who said im not seeing anyone? was i supposed to update you or something? get bent
idgaf its his life- he knows what he;s doing. dont have to be so rude fuckign asshole
she's a jealous neurotic unemployed loser
and she's not that cute
>posts a million pics of her curry eating GREASY face
>post a couple of pics of hot cousin "look at her she's so ugly omg"
lol youre so obsessed with yourself. I am just commenting on threads YOU made on a PUBLIC forum
that thread isnt even here anymore so what's your point?
none of that is true and you bringing it up after the fact and adding your own delusional spin = obsessed
fuck off now not gonna bother replying.
I'm visiting here right now. As young person with little job experience I'd live here for a year and wouldn't settle until I'm accomplished. I love big cities but I've only really been to Hong Kong and NY, would still like to experience Tokyo,Paris,London,Berlin and Copenhagen/Stockholm before I make the call
Lol I thought that was you
Just passing by and seen you post a couple times and I will just say this
You do not seem like you have a healthy state of mind. I'd get some help if I were you, what you are doing is not normal behaviour.
Also stay off 4chan, it's obvious that you don't really get "4chan culture" or just straight up choose to deny and reject it. Either way you do not mesh well with this place and all you bring about is negativity, both to other posters and yourself.
4chan should not be a facet for constantly taking our your personal issues, look at r9k and how unstable they are. Seek some help irl.
"my cousin does this weird pursing thing with her lips to make them look bigger and she looks like an idiot (pic) "
I've been going to school here for two years now, expecting it to be a dead husk of what I hoped and dreamed it would be when I was young.
It turned out everywhere else in the world can even touch this place. Sometimes it wears me out a bit, and sometimes I go visit friends in other cities, but it only takes a few hours even to feel the urge to get back and continue experiencing the intense current. Other cities just don't hold a candle to NYC's concentration of people and things and what they can do. It is the zenith of ideas. San Francisco is doing things, Tokyo is doing things, Istanbul is doing things, but they all turn and face New York City.
"what underlying problems?
being vain? wanting to look pretty? thats like 90% of women
i dont have low selfesteem (most days) im just being realistic"
"[ i spend a LOT on concealers so i think tear troughs is the obv answer but ppl keep scaring me]"
"50gs? Like 50k salary? Uhhhh that's pretty poor "
"I don't consider that bitch to be family"
And the best of the thread:
"I might want to get into a relationship with him soon but idk I'm not super attracted to him. He's not ugly, he's nice etc but there's no passion"
(literally a couple of minutes later)
"And he's 25/26 he's old enough to know. I might be falling in love."
This bitch is literally insane. And this is all just from ONE thread
that stereotype is such bullshit and anyone who's been to NY can confirm it.
Some New Yorkers aren't really into conventional manners (please thank you etc.) but they'll help literally anyone out. Pull out a map anywhere and they'll ask if you need help.
Why are you talking shit about your immediate family to a bunch of strangers online like I cannot even begin to comprehend what is going on in your head that makes you do this
Like, your cousin.
Your parents' siblings' daughter.
Why? I am honestly dumbfounded.
If you are going to study film at NYU then you'd better make sure you can suck a good dick.
It's all about networking, any fuck can make a movie but it's takes good networking skills to get funding to make them. Meeting people is going to be more important than learning what mise-en-scène is, it's stupid but that's life.
Ditch the Woody Allen movies, but do come. I'll write more about the romance and actuality of New York later - it's complicated. Two rants I already typed and I need to crash.
It's a different language than High Fashion or Internet Forum. You have to learn how to read it, and TBH what you find is often majestic.
What are you talking about? Gowanus is rich white artsy people looking for somewhere a little out of the way and financial bleed-in from sandwiching Carroll Gardens and Park Slope.
The idea that Flushing is impervious to gentrification is wishful thinking; people probably said that about Manhattan Chinatown before. The real barrier to the gentrification of Flushing is that it's almost not in the city. Largely suburban housing stock around it and that longass ride out on the 7.
Also, and I say this as someone involved in anti-gentrification activism, gentrified places can still be hustle and bustle and dingy and full of character. The complete blandness of Williamsburg is the exception. Look at lower Manhattan - yeah, sure, Broadway and Canal are infested with Midwesterners, but the rest of it just has rich people hustle, bustle, and character, and it's dingy as shit. The Brooklyn Bridge - City Hall station looks like a fucking ruin, and that's the part they still use. FiDi is actually awesome, and it's amazing how it's retained its character as a site of capital accumulation over the centuries: first a trading post, now a trading post, only the goods are virtual and the ships go to Jersey. Manhattan Chinatown, once you step off Canal and Mulberry, is still extremely authentic and often extremely poor, especially on the Little Fuzhou end.
It's horrible that one has to emphasize this so much: gentrification is not because because muh grit and kurrturr. It's bad because it's literally displacing poor, minority persons and breaking up their communities. Very little is actually about our white aesthete experience of the world.
its a gigantic dilapitated city interspersed with nice parks. You're probably not going to be able to afford to live in the main part of new york, especially not if you're blowing your money on drugs. Everything is incredibly expensive and you'll feel bad every time you buy a hamburger when you know you could've spent the inflation and salestax money on some fire yay. Other than that I guess it was /fa/ I went to try and get model management there but didnt really fall in love with the city.
>tfw cousin has a flat on Wall Street and lets me stay whenever I visit
She pays $2000 for her apartment (split between her roommate) so it's not too bad considering the location. Definitely moving to NYC after college. People actually care about fashion there.
FiDi is intern living standards... My buddy from HS studies at the New School and has a place with his friend in the village and I think they each pay like ~1500 a month. It's a 2 bd/2 bath and on like the 10th floor. Pretty good. For comparison I live in Santa Monica, CA and pay 1600 for a 1 bd/1 bath apartment on the 3rd floor...
I moved to NYC from LA right out of High School, and I eventually moved back, but it was pretty fun when I was living there, even though I was working a lot. You'll find a lot of fashionable people, and then you'll find even more plebs. Woody Allen is a faggot, but it's a nice city overall, I fucking miss it.
Wound up writing some more, but I'm just not up to the main thing.
The thing most people miss about money in New York is whatever you think it is, it's something else, too. You can pay some obscene amount for a gilt caviar pizza slice (really!) or get a dollar slice. (Best I know of is at Atlantic and Nostrand.) Even the housing market works like that. I know a couple paying $0/ever for a prewar on the Upper West Side, and not through family, and you can pay five figures a month in Brooklyn; I've even seen mid-five-figures rents on CL in Manhattan before.
I pay $450 in a somewhat unusual situation I don't want to get into further, but I also know people doing that in fairly typical flatmate situations. You should expect $700 as a bottom end for rent you can get. Lower is luck and connections, mostly connections.
You know the one she meant. But it's also not really about New York, and somewhat off base in what it says about it/the transplant experience here, at least as it presents in the early 21st century. She may have been absolutely right about her time, IDK.
>Of course it might have been some other city, had circumstances been different and the time been different and had I been different, might have been Paris or Chicago or even San Francisco, but because I am talking about myself I am talking here about New York.
What it's really about, staggeringly brilliant about, is disappointment, the sadness of knowing, the unavoidable weight of accumulating a life and realizing: this is not just yours, it's you, and you can't take it back, ever.
Also, legal minimum wage here is $8/hr. In practice, most menial positions start out at $10-ish, especially the kind you can get if you're the kind of person who posts on an Internet fashion board, watches Woody Allen movies, and can consider an international move because feeeels. (I am also generally this kind of person, even if I think Woody Allen is demonstrably a creep just from the movies and a superficial one to boot.)
Garbage under the table jobs that'd actually be pretty hard for you to get pay about $5-6-ish.
That's bullshit. One, the #1 factor affecting your safety in any urban area is how you carry yourself.
Two, being the kind of white tripe who says stuff like that (I'm talking about the people who told you that, not you) actually, contrary to all their fears, insulates them from violence. People aren't stupid - they know they can fuck over other people the system doesn't care about to no end, but if they so much as scare a pretty white victim they could wind up dead.
In the little corner of a neighborhood that's not Bushwick where I live, but probably other places, there's a small street gang that shakes down the illegal immigrants coming home from work. Nothing big, just getting in their way and asking for a dollar or two; everyone knows to refuse means trouble later. They get away with it, despite a nearby precinct, because no one with the power to stop it cares, and the immigrants are too vulnerable to make a stink.
Three, most crime is centered where there's money: either the places rich white people go with their money or the drug trade.
Now I really have to crash.
I've been some suburban pleb my entire life
My fetish is cities, big ones, NYC, LA (honestly, literally half an hour from my suburb but I don't LIVE there), Seattle, Chicago, etc.
I romanticize it way too much
I live like 30-40 mins outside of NYC in a suburb. I think that most people who romanticize living in the city are from small towns/small cities, because trust me, it's a hassle if you live here. Over expensive, overcrowded, and full of pretentions. Nyc was dirt cheap and dangerous in the 60s,70s, and 80s, when my parents worked there. Hookers, drug dealers, crack, graffiti, violence. Truly edgy, and not ironically. But, it was also a haven for artists, writers, and musicians because of the dirt cheap rent. Since then it's been getting more expensive and tourist/yuppie/trust fund baby -friendly.
All that being said, i could see how it would appeal to someone from a small town, because it is a very interesting/aesthetically beautiful/diverse city. not to mention all the references to it in the culture.
NYC is okay
It's noisy, dirty, smelly, blacks/mexicans everywhere, everything is 6x more expensive than it should be, everyone thinks they are better than you because they live in nyc, everyone is in a shitty mood all the time, constant traffic, food can be pretty shit if you dont know the right places
i could go on but whatever
>that faggot whose posts are consistently deleted and who is consistently banned
>Bored kids from bumfuck places and suburbs who've watched too many movies and wanna go to SVA or NYU or some fashion school
All big cities are the same you dumbasses.
PLEASE stop gentrifying NY and destroying the culture even more.
Your immature dreams should be illegal.
seattle is alright but p much the opposite of nyc
>smells 100x better
>looks less like a metropocalypse
>cute asian grills
>weed and chill people
>apart from downtown it's like 1 big suburb
>public transport is subpar
>few /fa/ stores
>boring beyond belief
portland is fine but wouldn't want to live there
it's always the ones who never live in NYC or go there a lot, that falls in love with that crap hole. The only reason to go there is for the night life, and gtfo. Nothing more. Place is expensive, especially for clothes(due to taxes), which is why people travel to NJ to get their clothes.
Ventures get swallowed up by venture capitalists which get swallowed up by priate equity which gets swallowed up by hedge funds which get swallowed up by investment banks which are part of the big banks of america.
Seattle and NYC are completely different. Don't let anyone tell you they're not. Seattle is a lot more spread out, has real neighborhoods, and no "real" downtown. Downtown here is shit, full of crackheads and tourists. Capital Hill and The Ave are really the only /fa/ places, and are pretty small (although Capital Hill is growing ridiculously fast) It really depends what you like, but Seattle and NYC aren't comparable
Yes goyim, a bunch of white men in a secret society are controlling everything
Detroit is an edgy cheap place to live. Big hipster and DIY scene. It's never going to rank up there with NYC but who gives a fuck. Like someone else said in this thread, most big cities are the same, it's their individual culture that makes them unique. I'm living here now and it's pretty great
Low key Detroit is more /fa/ than any other city mentioned here. Edgy, grimey, darkand a half hour drive from stores with designer shit. I saw five different gothninja kids and four pairs of geos in the area the past week
Yeah sometimes it borders on too edgy, but if you live here you just need to know where not to go (which is a large portion of the city).
It's getting less dark because they're actually replacing all the broken streetlights.
I've lived in NYC (Brooklyn and manhattan) for the past 17 years and I would absolutely say its not worth living here.
Sure, there are some pretty great things about here, but once the initial allure wears off and you're walking around piles of garbage and sitting next to smelly bums on the train you will wonder why you ever came here.
Tell us more? I really want the story of Detroit as the/a new haven for poor artists to turn out great, innovative work and people to be free and awesome generally, but I just don't see it happening.
I could be just missing it, or it could just be not getting out for a number of socioeconomic reasons, but that's a problem for it if that's the case.
i don't think you can over romanticize some thing. if people shut you down and say your unrealistic tell them this. In the city you dream of there are also people who want to stay or leave the people who want to stay are likely dreaming about the same things you are but that doesn't mean you cant get along with the people that want nothing more than to leave. Befriending people regardless of where there head or body is at is key to the human and telling some one their dreams are invalid is not.
The good half of Hartford
New Hampshire is nice, lots of winter sports and no tax but if you live there or Vermont you're not going to be around anyone /fa/
NYC is cool when you're in a college racking up debt or are on someone else's money and have no real responsibilities
Getting a decent job, a decent place to live, and just having any sort of quality life with minimal compromise is an absolute nightmare
Be careful on the cheap street food. It can be good but it'll run right through you.
Things are cheap here in America but there's a saying "It cost 5 dollar to walk down the street in New York" You can easily run through 600-1k worth of usd in a 2 day weekend there just partying, drinking, eating, traveling and trying to shop. Not saying you can't have a decently cheap trip to NYC but your money will disappear very fast if you aren't careful.
Alright not sure if you're being sarcastic but you're welcome. As far as meeting girls idk how any guy that does a decent job of grooming himself, dressing simple and clean (not even necessarily fashionable or fashion forward), and knowing how to hold a conversation for a few minutes miss out on meeting quality decently attractive women in NYC. There's a surplus of women there compared to the number of men. It's a young man's play ground. Pace yourself and enjoy your trip.
i feel like the only liberal leaning young adult that's not out to go gentrify a big city like NYC. i can't see why it would make sense to live in NYC unless you're a talented artist with actual aspirations or loaded as fuck. most people I know that move there are just killing their wallet to live somewhere where they can feel fashionable and important. but im from texas so maybe im just missing something? idk man shit really doesnt sound pleasant or worth it
The social interactions, networking and just being in the thick of it all, is what makes it. It only takes one night out in NYC to remember it for the rest of your life. It feels big. And yeah fashionable and important. It's also nice to have so many different things being constantly accessible especially if you're a night owl. There's no better feeling than getting up 12 am and being able to do anything that you want because places are still open, trains are still running, and people are still out.
Yeah but despite it I still love Midwest cities and I don't know why.
It's kind of cool driving through plain country for miles and miles and then just coming around a hill and seeing a big city all spread out across the horizon, I guess they sneak up on you a little more than most major cities which are spread out way farther. But at the same time most Midwest cities are heavily suburbanized too, but I can cope with it.
chicago > nyc
there's no attitude. nobody (relatively) acts like they're fucking important. it's way cheaper. i actually have a yard and i live 15 min from downtown and there's alleys for trash
Detroit was a major city and at its peak one of the most (maybe the most?) wealthy per capita cities in the world. Eventually black people from the south moved in (part of a larger movement called the Great Migration) and the white people moved out and created Detroit's extensive and wealthy suburbs.
The economy tanked throughout the '60s-present and the population declined from nearly 2 million (4th largest city in USA) to under 700,000. Detroit is a big city--you can comfortably fit Boston, SF, and Manhattan in it side by side--and enormous portions of it are just streets upon streets of single family homes (Detroit's lack of housing stock variety is actually one of its big hindrances). All those people leaving created lots and lots of vacant homes which led to lots of other problems.
Less people = less tax revenue, which means the city just gets shittier in general. It's a vicious circle that's difficult to fix, especially because people in the suburbs don't give a fuck.
Artists/hipsters moved in because of the low rent, but in the last couple years there has been this big movement to make Detroit hip again. There are a couple of areas/neighborhoods that are cool and hip, but if you go like a half mile from them you're not even in the ghetto--you're in a wasteland.
But there's plenty to do here and I think it's fun. I have a really nice apartment and I live here comfortably even though I don't make a lot of money.
The big areas are downtown and midtown (which each have their own sub-neighborhoods). Corktown is mega hipster but a bit edgier. Lafayette Park is more yuppie but very livable.
There are a few isolated random neighborhoods with REALLY nice houses that sometimes break up mansions into several apartments. Indian Village and West Village namely.
Most of the southwest side isn't as shitty (and also predominantly Mexican/hispanic) and probably a more "authentic" experience if you're into that.
As for the rest of the city (the other 80%), you're on your own. There are isolated neighborhoods that are functioning (or even thriving due to community initiatives), and even isolated streets, but there are some pretty bad areas.
But the hip areas are gentrifying and rent is rising. Even since I've moved into my building a few months ago, the price on my floorplan has gone up like 30% for new leasers.
Supposedly the rents will stabilize or lower after this boom dies down/more housing is built/converted, but that remains to be seen.
Hey man, you can dislike Detroit all you want, maybe somewhere like Miami or Cleveland are more your speed. It's not a place for suburban fuccbois or people that can't handle urban street life
>perfect for yuppies
are you kidding me? detroit has a million and a half problems esp downtown. lack of jobs--> no tax revenue --> lack of police force in an already ghetto city is a recipe for disaster
things like a good % of ppl's water being turned off and garbage not being collected etc are huge red flags. even if you're poor it makes no sense to movethere (no jobs/social safety net)
the suburbs are a different story though
but if you're in NY why would you want to eat cheap crappy food?
and going out isn't expensive at all (i'm a girl though) esp if you pre game make friends with people who have bottle service (shouldnt be too hard in places in meatpacking)
i dont know why im so obsessed with nyc. and i do know how everyone would say its not as good as i think it is but i dont care. im gonna save up and eventually move there. i dont care if i live in a smelly apartment
Go for it man. It's fun. Go and make your dreams come true. Have a plan cause six degrees of separation is real. Population of 8 and a half million and It's amazing how many people you'll run into that have a connection to you or someone that you want to know.
There are tons of new jobs downtown and a lot of those issues you listed just don't apply to me. Yeah the city sucks if you're poor and live in some shitty neighborhood, no shit, water is also wet. Garbage pickup was solved by privatization and people were getting their water shut off because--get this--they weren't paying their bills.
I'm saying if you have a normal job it's pretty easy to have a nice life and enjoy the hip bars, restaurants and concerts and shit. It's edgy, sure, but it's fun, pretty cheap and the people here are great.
Isn't sickly the girl who photoshopped her tits bigger and her waist smaller?
Also I love NYC but Toronto is a better place to be. NYC is just a fantasy. It's a place to go and kill time and enjoy some place different and vast. But you can't leave Toronto to live there on a whim. It's dumb and super immature and you're literally just trying to make yourself interesting. Just like all the people who live in Windsor for school but call it Windsor-Detroit and talk about ghetto tech like they were a part of it.
They spend weekends in Detroit and think they know hardship but come back and enjoy free healthcare and mommy and daddy paying tuition.
Fuck that noise. Yes travel. Have fun. Fuck bitches. Get money. But don't be one of those assholes.
doubt OP is serious about moving there
also people who go to detroit and like acting ghetto are suburban wiggers
Toronto sucks IMO and I was born/raised here. NYC is legit 100x better. your experiences make you interesting- more to do there so obv the city would turn you into a different/better person (assuming you already have your shit togehter etc)
I'm not a fan of that. "Your experiences make you interesting." That's such a female mindset.
Every girl I meet who finds out a little about me has to tell me some long winded story about how she's travelled here and there and "wanderlust" and blah blah blah all as an attempt to one up every other girl or to appear more interesting than the other standard "suburb/city white girls" at the party, this happens and then since she's told me so much about her life, we fuck or if I don't bite and say "wow tell me more" we move on and that's that.
I don't care. You're not a special unique flower, and I'm just trying to fuck.
The interesting girls are the quiet ones. Not the ones who blab about backpacking through safe-Europe, or spending time in Africa building schools, or taking pictures with docile Thai tigers and Wat Rong Khun.
All you guys talking about nyc nightlife need to check out Berlin.
New York is nice but it doesn't even come close to Berlin in terms of actual cool clubs (not bottle service garbage) music & energy.
I'm talking about places that will never let you in of your wearing high heels / a tie / dressed formal.
What would you give not to have to deal with suburban subhumans coming to the city on weekends to "club" and puke outside the venue cause they can't handle it?
When are you coming? Autumn weather is starting soon, so pretty much the same weather as the east cost of north america.
What is your edginess lvl? (what does the scanner reads)
Best clubs are:
Berghain (of course)
Avoid at all cost:
Matrix (I cannot stress that enough)
To get into berghain, dress like pic related.
The other clubs are less edgy, but avoid dressing formal at.all.cost.
If you're more into diy spaces and dingy trashy underground spots that are really community centered there are a couple of living room bars in neukolln also have fucking cave dance floors:
Best bet is to go to these places to meet people, because people don't talk much on the dance floor lol. Also be prepared for the complete opposite of what you're used to (if you're coming from america). You don't buy girls drinks to get laid, and it is absolutely forbidden to grind/dry hump whatever the fuck they do in these awful clubs in the states. If you're horny and at berghain or about: blank or whatever, they actually have dedicated "dark room" where you can go take drugs and fuck. I love it.
Well you're going clubbing in one of the most renowned club in the world, so of course people are gonna look edgemasterish, although of course not everyone dresses like that. But most people get turned away at the door, especially if you look too normal,so i figured i'd give a heads up.
>one giant room where people fuck?
more like tiny cabins set up everywhere around the club. Berghain used to be a power plant so there are a lot of small rooms and such where you can go.
idk man i have no idea what underage kids and rich bottle service type assholes do these days when they dance…
anyway, all of this is of course if you're planning to experience the city on its most edgy/drugged out/too much partying level… Berlin is of course known as one of the most laid back city there is.
There is absolutely no need to be a memetic edgemaster 3000 (love that term) to enjoy it here, but if you're going all in...
>and it is absolutely forbidden to grind/dry hump...
lol what's the point of dancing then? Everything seemed cool until that bit.
I'm imagining a bunch of 20 somethings dancing like old couples or in a circle on some 90's Kid and Play House Party shit.
Just curious if there are any reggae/dance hall clubs there where you can actually dance with the women?
Ok so of course its not forbidden, you'll just look like a tourist retard if you dance like a monkey in a techno/house club. People dance together all the time, its the whole point of going dancing, and you can hook up with anyone regardless of your sexual orientation without any problem, but if you do that dance hall shit in techno clubs you're not gonna enjoy the results
Anyway, this place is really chill for reggae. full of refugees from ghana, nigeria, etc so you know its legit (lol)
Alright cool I wasn't specifically saying you should be doing dance hall moves in a techno club but you made it sound like you'd be kicked out of the club if you got caught grinding on the dance floor. Not Even sure why you'd mention grinding if they're mostly clubs dedicated to techno or house music.
Have you actually listened to techno? How the fuck can you grind on that? Besides everybody is on drugs so they just want to dance in their own worlds and don't bother other people.
>London is full of fuccbois trying to be new yorkers
could stare at for days :3
no guys in toronto who look like that
>some dude not from Berlin trying to talk about Berlin: the post
Aight, let's see here. Berghain has long lost it's charm due to heavy tourism. Sisyphos and Chalet are pleb as hell. Sameheads is a place for thirtysomething hasbeens, always has been, and Loophole died once they renovated.
Honestly, in Neukölln, the only bar worth anything is Del Rex, since they don't play the same chillwave/indiepop bullshit that every other fucking bar plays.
The dark room is really mostly for gay people, and Berghain itself is geared directly towards gay people. so keep that in mind. And grinding is perfectly fine, as long as you don't have a problem with a bunch of jealous germans staring at you from the edge of the dancefloor whilst sipping their 5€ beer.
Do check out Darklands and About:Blank if you're into the aesthetic. Also, Urban Spree and that one place I forget the name of that's in a abandoned house sorta close to Warschauer.
hahah implying vincent isn't one of the most perfect looking guys ever
ughhh what I would give to keep hanging out in NY with an italian raised in paris with such next level swag
in fact p much every guy in NY who talked/hit on me was super hot/nice (compared to toronto at least). even the girls were nicer
Nah, you're just projecting your wishes and dreams onto other countries
Most weeaboos on here do that with Tokyo, thinking everything is great there
But if you're into ugly dudes like that, Berlin is perfect for you lol
Are you that dense
Do you not read sentences
I mean, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but damn, name fags really are retarded
can you relax
that man in the photograph is cleary attractive.
i'm not projecting a fantasy i have for german men or something. there are more attractive men there than in toronto but im not dying to go there esp when the avg man there looks like this apparently
Yes, but the average men live in fucking villages
Berlin is full of gorgeous homosexual men and tons of dudes like that pic you posted
But I seriously doubt there aren't any dudes like that in Toronto
Like, where are you looking for them?
there are some. usually gay or have gfs. ratio of goodlooking men to women here is very very skewed. lot of women usually have to date down 2-3 pts (whereas in the states its the other way around apparently)
and in school/bars/clubs
long term relationship
and its relevant cause NY men are hot. good enough reason to move there (half kidding)
I grew up here
It's my home... I am going to school in the bay area in california now... and I miss my dirty city so badly.
I have snobby new yorker moments all the time that I try to contain.
I just love my city.
I know it's a shitshow half the time but there is beauty amongst the congestion
also, my fucking bagels. shit I miss quality bagels.