>inb4 some people who can't pull off Hedi's aesthetic h8 on this post
he's such a qt 3.14
hopefully someone posts some neat designers and not just the same stuff we see circlejerked again and again
while not my favourite phillip lim's Spring Summer 15 has some really great looks imo
look at how comfy he makes people look tho
for everyday wear mostly schneider and ervell and non-designer designer shit like acne
actual favorites which I would wear everyday if I had unlimited funds and no dress-code boundaries - raf, helmut, yohji for sports
Oh, wow, you're so cool, you like Phillip Lim, simply wow!
What's the point? All the conversations are basically "I like this designer", "Me too", "I don't". Everything you discuss here makes no sense, you're operating basic terms which a 1st grade student discovers and immediately likes to tell the world about how acknowledged he is on the subject.
There is not extent in those discussions, not even pigfucks posts. They are not bad, but they really lack information, again, you can cut it all into simple "I like Raf and Helmut, but they have changed ;___;".
>why do you even come here
At least some of the designers are never mentioned, so if they are, I take note on them.
No, not trying to insult anybody (except for the next quotation), but I wonder, what is the extent of these conversations?
>I am so intelligent and reasonable, I post pictures from runways.
A true visionary. Even this model can't comprehend the nxtlvl clothing he is wearing.
well i come in a thread like this in the hopes of finding someone i've never heard of like you said
but, yeah i guess a thread like this is just a very vapid "oh look at what i like, aren;t i so cool and hip cause i like this designer"
still, something to pass some time
i don't think people like hedi because they think "he's nxtlvl as fuck" but, cause he sells an aesthetic that looks cool and look feasible to pull off
like we're talking rock and roll and biker chic crap
not some avant garde brands like individual sentiments or w.e.
Well, since you are discussing designers and not common projects, tell me:
What Fashion Schools (I am a bit illiterate in that field) run cool runways of graduates?
I don't know even the biggest ones, well, I know Royal Academy of Fine Arts and Central Saint Martins.
You are telling me information I already know. SLP is fashion for people who have to much money or want to look edgy maybe both. It seems quite ridiculous to me but if people want to continue to buy his clothing I'm not going to stop them. I do find it a pointless purchase though.
>feasible to pull off
You have to be 6'1"-6'3" and weigh a maximum of 160 to actually go for what Hedi envisions.. Only reason SLP stays in business is because of materialistic gooks who buy the handbags.
Wow what an argument. What leads you to believe try at my argument was a straw man? Was it because I didn't directly define why Hedi Slimane is not the Jesus of this board or was it because I'm a hater who can't pull it off?
> to actually go for what Hedi envisions
yeah but some rich fuck sees biker jackets and rock and roll and shits his pants thinking he can look cool
same as these teenagers buying 4th hand rick on /fa/ thinking they're nxtlvl as fuck
they're buying into an aesthetic most people don't actually give a shit what the designer wants the clothes to look like
You just posted the most "outlandish" outfit Hedi has ever put on the runway in comparison to his the rest of the collections which are typically 99% black. Either way none of this really matters it's just the internet.
No, but if I'm going to spend hundreds maybe even thousands of dollars on clothing I want them to at the very least be made out of high quality materials and constructed well. SLP does neither of these. I am fine with people buying very conservative pieces maybe even straight boring for a good amount of money(I don't personally agree with it), but if the quality of the garment is shit what is the point then, and don't just give me the "muh rocker aesthetic" speech.
Well let's make the thread better then by explaining our choices.
Tomoaki Okaniwa is the designer behind Japanese label The Viridi-Anne. He could be categorized broadly as gothninja, but I feel he excels most in his simpler pieces, particularly his trousers. He manipulates the conventional in subtle ways that add depth to outfits. Pic related is a beautiful example where the simple gathers running down the back of the legs add interesting little stacks and even manage to lengthen the legs a bit.
I have a few Viridi-Anne pieces and I tend to wear them like Helmut stuff, that is to say with fairly a basic rest of the outfit and some grounding footwear.
Who do you like and why?
Maybe I'm cherry picking a little bit but looks like the first one aren't as rare as you make them out to be
True. Do you think if Rick Owens was at a cheaper price point it would be as hyped? Of course not, no matter what /fa/ tells themselves, they subconsciously want the Geobaskets because they're a status symbol; literally just a more try hard version of a basic bitch wearing a Louis bag.
Yeah, I'll admit some are definitely "odd", but then again if he didn't mess with the proportions or do something outside of the box people would be even more inclined than they already are to call him a "stylist" and not a "designer". Honestly, I think a lot people, or just some of them, don't like Hedi because he does what HE wants and doesn't care what "fashion" people want.
"b-but at least its not ALL shit"
Honestly I like designer clothes that I can actually buy and wear without looking like a douchebag buffoon, like A.P.C. and Acne. Fuck Rick Owens.
If we're talking about more "high-fashion" designers of all time I'd say YSL, Chanel and Dior. Fight me irl.
idk why any of you think hedi slimane has an interesting or innovative 'aesthetic' at all, like do you think he invented thin guys wearing leather jackets and long scarves or what
im not saying it looks bad i'm saying it's boring and requires no talent to design
Hedi is Love
Hedi is Life
i also like Raf Simons when he´s doing collections for Dior
not true, he was/is a really good stylist. That was always his strength. He ushered in the skinny male model look that's so commonplace now. The new design team for slp is just trash and he's more of a stylist than a designer so he doesnt employ more experimental techniques like some of the other designers do.
>ushered in the skinny look
No he fucking didn't. If all you can say is he's a good stylist than that just proves my point that he is a shit designer, and it just proves he's in the wrong business. You can't blame his team either because if he is the head of the house than he decides who is hired and shouldn't have shit pattern cutters etc. He made some really nice pieces at Dior but that was fucking Dior of course they will have some of the best artisans money can buy.
I don't know how to correct all the issues with this post besides going on a gigantic tl;dr diatribe, which I dont want to do. Even if all you do is read his wikipedia page for 5 seconds, you'll start to figure out all the issues with your post.
>yves endorsed him
>didnt usher in the skinny highly tailored look for men, he's just somehow magically known for it.
>design team cant be blamed because he is head of fashion house so magically he can steal tanneries and design teams and would just to prove he's the best designer and not worry about profit margins and the success of the house at all
>even mentioning pattern cutters
>he made some really nice pieces at dior but that was fucking dior
If you cant see you're a fucking idiot at least everyone else in this thread can.
inb4 you address only one of the points in my post because you know you're wrong but you want to win the argument so you can continue to shitpost in denial and save your fragile ego.
Rick endorsed Pugh. Pugh is still a hack and does the same thing over and over again just like Hedi
He's known for it because it's all he fucking does. That doesn't mean he created it or even made it really popular.
I don't know what you are trying to say with this one
Why would I not bring up pattern cutters or other workers who actually make the pieces
You took this out of context I was saying he had good pieces at Dior because Dior could hire better workers
loved this season's albino too
nice clean cuts,60's vibe,oriental influences were a bit groce tho
so you're just going to ignore hedi's work at ysl and dior? even though I said nothing about who started any revival of anything.
I didnt know pugh wasn't making rick's ready to wear...
Hedi isn't in the wrong business, he's been very successful
you say 'You can't blame his team either because if he is the head of the house than he decides who is hired and shouldn't have shit pattern cutters' then you say "Dior could hire better workers" and it all just sounds to me like you have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm saying he's a shit designer with no skill whatsoever and is completely reliant on his workers. He put out good pieces at Dior because Dior hires some of the best people in the business becasue they are Dior. At SLP although he apparently has the money for it, according to you he refuses to hire better seamstresses and continues to sources shit material. And Im not saying just because he is 100% reliant on his workers that they can be blamed so don't try to fucking twist my words.So if he was so fantastic at Dior why did he turn to such shit when he reformed YSL to SLP?
Neil has really been losing focus lately imo. He used to put out some really fantastic stuff but lately it seems to be reaching the level of every other bland Luke streetwear brand out there. I do quite like a lot of the pieces from ss15 though.