>>9531659 I make an effort to not buy things made in china or the indian subcontinent because it is invariably shit and I don't like wasting money on shit that has to be replaced/looks like worse shit after a few wears.
Apart from some jeans, socks and undies which are made in Thailand (which I don't mind: my friend's family owns the factory so I get them cheap and the conditions aren't that bad relatively speaking) I no longer own, and will longer buy, things made in shitholes.
Not for any ethical reason, I just don't like being ripped off buy some brand that get's their low qual shit made in the same shitty factory in china that everyone else gets their shit made in, and charges more that the item's worth.
It's hard though, finding companies to trust, as looser laws allow countries to get most of something made in the 3rd world, and yet still have "made in England/Italy/USA" etc., on them.
I've found makers I trust, and intend to stick with them.
Costs more, but I'm assured a certain level of quality that's otherwise lacking.
Besides, I don't like those chinese sons of bitches (and indians smell so I don't like them too - disgusting race)
>>9531659 As much as I can, which isn't much. I generally don't buy expensive clothing aside from pieces that have to be higher quality (shoes, coat, bag) so that I don't have to replace them every month. I work a min wage job and not many things that I can afford are made ethically. However, when I can I do buy fair trade stuff or things made by locals, but there's also the problem of people not being completely honest when it comes to these things (made in Italy means nothing, for example). I like to buy things made in Eastern Europe because their labour laws and regulations are much better than in China, they're just paid according to the standard in their country.
>>9532097 Everything, i'm a new fag money isn't a problem but i don't wanna wear faggy shit like slp, i heard apc is good? I want to still look like a human, should i mainly wear "mid-tier" clothes? I'm so lost
I usually buy things made in Britain, Italy or Japan. Italian made clothing is usually made by sweaty immigrants as is British clothing (I've seen the factories) so it's difficult. I wish Polo Ralph Lauren wasn't made in filthy countries and Id be willing to pay over twice the retail for that privilege. In the end, though, I really don't care about the ethics within it I just want a good quality product.
>>9531971 >made in Italy means nothing true for those idiots that claim you don't like your shit to be touched/made by shitskins, better double triple check your sources, because even if they're not made in China they can still very likely be made by the same low-skilled dirty Chinese shipped en masse to some factory in Europe. The most common offenders being Made in Italy/France.
what with all the "moral fashion" threads recently first the marxist fashion thread, then that chain email fashion health thread now an ethical clothing thread
that being said
i try to buy quality clothing made in the first world whenever possible, honestly theres not much of an excuse not to like take ten minutes of googling to educate yourself but, hey being an educated consumer is too hard i guess
>>9532269 google it it's not a well kept secret it's well known that in italy there are entire towns filled with chinese companies employing chinese slaves making "luxury goods" just so that the brand can claim made in italy north italy is chinese labor southern is north african
the italians in the neighboring areas hate it but since the country is run by crooks easily bought off anyway no one really cares or does anything
poor italian workers too expensive to employ i guess massive, massive profits for the brands though not like a chinese coolie has to be paid very much, and will tolerate living in a shoebox and being whipped
after all, it's better treatment than they'd suffer if they were back in china
what a shit existence bangladesh would be worse (because of islam added to the shit mix)
I inherited (handmedowns) a lot of decently made stuff (outerwear, ties and other accoutrements) so my biases and preferences may not be the most objective a lot of shirts from the old english shirtmakers. many have gone down the tube and outsource their shit to china, which is a shame, but some have maintained their level of quality
I've got shirts from turnbull and asser from the 70's that look fucking new, and yet they've been well worn that's convinced me of the maker i buy them when they're on sale (and I'm in london) good shit
as for more contemporary things I've taken a shining to the small english studio seh kelly got a ventile mac, some shirts and a blazer from them stuff's sourced solely from the british isles, from thread to horn/brass buttons - everything
decent, not traditional stuff (like t&a is) but very, very, very small output they have like 3 of each size available when they make stuff so be quick I've missed out on a lot of shit because I hesitated not cheap i wouldn't say the style is /fa/ approved
like I said my underwear and socks and handkerchiefs are thai stocked up when I went there last but I do have a couple of pairs of socks from tender (uk) a sock is a sock is a sock IMO hard to fuck that up, and really they should be replaced half yearly just don't wear the synthetics that stink
look at albam clothing specialises in uk made stuff - including denim (cept currently there's some blazers made in portugal there too) tender's got japanese and english denim as well
when these jeans I got in thailand finally wear out - or before, I might give them to charity or something - I'm thinking of picking up some japanese denim all the usual brands going to japan in a few months so I'll save it for then tons of shops in thailand that sell jap stuff they're currently trending in asia depends where I go first
>>9531659 I try to, but it's tricky when not all the information is laid out for you. Some countries like japan have strong labour laws so you can be fairly confident, whereas a lot of European countries are hit and miss. I've missed out on some grails because of this filter but I'd still rather not directly support unethical labour laws than have a shiny thing I show off to people.
>>9534426 >You do realize japan sometimes ship materials/finished items in from China and just add the product tag of whatever? That's why you have to do your own research about specific companies, if this bothers you.
Japanese QC is god-tier most of the time, so I personally have less of a problem when a japanese company gets shit made in the mud world as opposed to euromerican company.
Especially if it's a japanese owned factory in the mud. Japanese foremen and managers ensure that shit gets done the way it's supposed to.
Western affiliated factories aren't anywhere near as diligent as the japs are in the regard of outsourced materials.
If it's a jap run factory in the third world, that's okay from a quality standpoint. Ethics and all that other sentimental bullshit is a different story.
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